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    ok guys, to clear up the widespread confusion at least a little bit, the time has come for me to share my - still provisional - table. using all available sources I could find, I tried to collect as much information about GNR (including Rapidfire and Hollywood Rose) studio sessions and recorded tracks, as possible. 80's era is not perfect, but pretty well done. 90's era is a mess, I've only been able to find little relevant info. and of course Chinese Democracy era is a total mess, so I just sorted the known releases and leaks into a chronological order. MASSIVE credits to everyone who helped me putting this sheet together! any informations is always subject to change. YOUR OPINIONS ARE WELCOME! First unofficial recording source Best sounding unofficial recording source Official releases Rapidfire (existed at least between a show on March 20 and the last show May 28, 1983): Ready To Rumble recording Sessions - Telstar Sound Studio, Burbank, CA, May 25, 1983 01 Ready to Rumble N/A N/A Ready To Rumble EP 02 All Night Long N/A N/A Ready To Rumble EP 03 The Prowler N/A N/A Ready To Rumble EP 04 On the Run N/A N/A Ready To Rumble EP 05 Closure N/A N/A Ready To Rumble EP Hollywood Rose (formed as AXL before Jan 1984, renamed to Rose, finally renamed to Hollywood Rose in late Apr 1984): (Rose/HR first show Jan 3rd or 4th 1984, last show Aug 31st 1984, Sep-Dec disbanded, Dec 31st reunion show, followed by last show on March 7, 1985) Rose Demos - "Recorded January 1984 in Hollywood, California" 01 Shadow Of Your Love "1983 Rose Demo" claimed to be from Johnny Kreis "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape The Roots Of Guns N' Roses (including two remixes) 02 My Way Your Way (later "Anything Goes") "1983 Rose Demo" claimed to be from Johnny Kreis "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape The Roots Of Guns N' Roses (including two remixes) 03 Reckless Life (also originally called "Wreckless") "1983 Rose Demo" claimed to be from Johnny Kreis "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape The Roots Of Guns N' Roses (including two remixes) 04 Rocker "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape The Roots Of Guns N' Roses (including two remixes) 05 Killing Time "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape The Roots Of Guns N' Roses (including two remixes) 06 Killing Time (Slower take, incomplete) "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape N/A 07 That Something (song sometimes also called "Out Of Control", take with Axl on vocals) "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape N/A 08 Cold Hard Cash (song sometimes also called "Cold Hearted") "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape "Rose Demo" from Rick Mars' original tape N/A That Something (originally called "Taxi Driver", different take without Axl on vocals, might be Izzy) LOSSY MP3 SOURCE (session uncertain) "1983 Rose Demo" claimed to be from Johnny Kreis "1983 Rose Demo" claimed to be from Johnny Kreis N/A "Rose rehearsal" - at earliest late 1983, but more likely early 1984 to April 1984 at latest (when they still called themselves Rose) Anything Goes LOSSY MP3 SOURCE Metal Sludge recording Metal Sludge recording N/A (unknown song) LOSSY MP3 SOURCE Metal Sludge recording Metal Sludge recording N/A Cold Hard Cash (2 attempts) LOSSY MP3 SOURCE Metal Sludge recording Metal Sludge recording N/A (unknown song) LOSSY MP3 SOURCE Metal Sludge recording Metal Sludge recording N/A Guns N' Roses (formed very shortly after the last Mar 7th, 1985 Hollywood Rose show): (first pre-AFD lineup show Mar 26th, last one May 12th, first AFD lineup show Jun 6, 1985) Willie Basse's studio GNR rehearsal #4 (with Tracii Guns, Rob Gardner and #1 with Duff McKagan) - before March 7th and 21st/22nd, 1985 Don't Cry Raz Cue 21st or 22nd March, 1985 radio interview Raz Cue 21st or 22nd March, 1985 radio interview N/A Anything Goes Raz Cue 21st or 22nd March, 1985 radio interview Raz Cue 21st or 22nd March, 1985 radio interview N/A Think About You Raz Cue 21st or 22nd March, 1985 radio interview Raz Cue 21st or 22nd March, 1985 radio interview N/A *MISSING* Heartbreak Hotel (Elvis Presley cover) *MISSING* (confirmed to have been rehearsed in the interview, altough maybe not in this exact rehearsal) N/A N/A N/A pre-Appetite Sessions: Mystic Sound Studio, Selma Avenue, Hollywood, CA 90028, August 1985. 1. Welcome To The Jungle Second Take Demos Izzy Stranded tape Appetite For Destruction L&L bonus cassette 2. Anything Goes Second Take Demos Izzy Stranded tape Appetite For Destruction L&L bonus cassette 3. Don't Cry Second Take Demos Izzy Stranded tape Don't Cry CDS, Appetite For Destruction L&L bonus cassette 4. Back Off Bitch Second Take Demos Izzy Stranded tape Appetite For Destruction L&L bonus cassette 5. Think About You - sounds a bit differently than the previous ones but is from the same session cassette? Izzy Stranded tape Appetite For Destruction L&L bonus cassette *MISSING* Heartbreak Hotel (Elvis Presley cover) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A West Arkeen "Hell House" Demos - 1139 N Fuller Avenue, Los Angeles, CA, Sept. 1985-Early 1986 01 Just Another Sunday (not from West Arkeen Tape, but presumably from same session because it’s in the intro for Bring It Down Home) Second Take Demos The Story Vol. I N/A 02 Crash Diet Second Take Demos The Story Vol. I N/A 03 The Garden Second Take Demos The Story Vol. I N/A 04 Too Much Too Fast (correct title according to West Arkeen Tape) Second Take Demos The Story Vol. I N/A *MISSING* Sunny Lovers Day *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (West Arkeen song from West Arkeen Tape) N/A N/A N/A *MISSING* Walk On By *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (West Arkeen song from West Arkeen Tape) N/A N/A N/A *MISSING* Martyr Of The 20th Century *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (West Arkeen song from West Arkeen Tape) N/A N/A N/A 05 Bad Obsession Second Take Demos The Story Vol. I N/A 06 Bring It Down Home (correct title according to West Arkeen Tape liner) Second Take Demos The Story Vol. I N/A 07 Sentimental Movie Second Take Demos The Story Vol. I N/A *MISSING* Second Time Loser *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (West Arkeen song from West Arkeen Tape) N/A N/A N/A *MISSING* Drinkin’ *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (West Arkeen song from West Arkeen Tape) N/A N/A N/A *MISSING* Make Your Play *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (West Arkeen song from West Arkeen Tape) N/A N/A N/A 08 Yesterdays Second Take Demos The Story Vol. I N/A 09 Crash Diet (Alternate Mix) (not from West Arkeen Tape, but presumably remixed from the same track) The Hell Revisited The Hell Revisited N/A 10 Drum Machine Instrumental #1 (not from West Arkeen Tape, but presumably from same drum machine sessions) The Hell Revisited The Hell Revisited N/A 11 Drum Machine Instrumental #2 (‘The Garden’ Song Sketch) (not from West Arkeen Tape, but presumably from same drum machine sessions) The Hell Revisited The Hell Revisited N/A *MISSING* It's So Easy *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (originally from West Arkeen sessions, written on acoustic guitars) N/A N/A N/A Manny Charlton produced Sound City Sessions -> June 4-5 1986, Sound City Studios, Van Nuys, CA (other sources said June 2-4) 01 Out Ta Get Me (Take #1) Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I + .44 Horticulture (Intro patch) Appetite For Destruction SDE *MISSING* Out Ta Get Me (Any Additional Takes) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (might not exist, but above track is named “Take #1”) N/A N/A N/A 02 Rocket Queen (Take #1) Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I + Hell Revisited (Intro patch) Appetite For Destruction SDE 03 Rocket Queen (Take #2) .44 Horticulture The Hell Revisited N/A 04 Nightrain Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I Appetite For Destruction SDE 05 My Michelle Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I Appetite For Destruction SDE 06 You're Crazy Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I Appetite For Destruction SDE 07 Paradise City Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I Appetite For Destruction SDE 08 Move To The City (Take #1) Welcome To The Sessions November Rain + .44 Horticulture (Outro patch) Appetite For Destruction SDE *MISSING* Move To The City (Take #2) 3:25 *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A 09 November Rain (Acoustic) Welcome To The Sessions Sessions Appetite For Destruction SDE 10 November Rain (Piano) Welcome To The Sessions Sessions Appetite For Destruction SDE 11 Shadow Of Your Love (Take #1 - "wake up, it’s time to play" version) Welcome To The Sessions The Hell Revisited Live And Let Die CDS, Appetite For Destruction SDE *MISSING* Shadow Of Your Love (Take #2) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (different take from "wake up, it's time to play") N/A N/A N/A 12 Reckless Life Welcome To The Sessions Sessions Appetite For Destruction SDE 13 Think About You Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I Appetite For Destruction SDE 14 Welcome To The Jungle ("you guys ready?" false start) Welcome To The Sessions The Hell Revisited Appetite For Destruction SDE, The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses (unreleased) 15 Don't Cry Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I N/A Nice Boys (Take #1 or #2, Rose Tattoo cover) (session uncertain) N/A N/A American 80's Hair Metal, The Many Faces Of Guns N' Roses *MISSING* Nice Boys (Take #1 or #2, Rose Tattoo cover) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A 16 Nice Boys (Take #3, Rose Tattoo cover) (“no we’re not” version) Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I Appetite For Destruction SDE 17 Back Off Bitch Welcome To The Sessions The Alan Niven 1986 Master Tapes Appetite For Destruction SDE 18 Anything Goes (Alternate lyrics) Welcome To The Sessions The Story Vol. I Appetite For Destruction SDE 19 Mama Kin (Aerosmith cover) Welcome To The Sessions Sessions Appetite For Destruction SDE Heartbreak Hotel (Take #1, Elvis Presley cover) ("Since my baby left me" intro) (session uncertain) N/A N/A Hollywood Rocks! 20 Heartbreak Hotel (Take #2, Elvis Presley cover) Welcome To The Sessions Sessions Appetite For Destruction SDE 21 Ain't Goin' Down (Instrumental) Welcome To The Sessions Sessions Appetite For Destruction SDE *MISSING* Jumpin’ Jack Flash (Electric Take #1, Rolling Stones cover) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A 22 Jumpin' Jack Flash (Electric Take #2, Rolling Stones cover) Welcome To The Sessions Sessions Appetite For Destruction SDE 23 Jumpin' Jack Flash (acoustic, Rolling Stones cover) Welcome To The Sessions Sessions Appetite For Destruction SDE 24 Move To The City (acoustic - "west coast junkie" intro) Welcome To The Sessions Rumbo Tapes Appetite For Destruction SDE 25 New Work Tune (previously known as "Untitled Song In Progress") (uncirculated before AFD SDE) (uncirculated before AFD SDE) Appetite For Destruction SDE 26 You're Crazy (acoustic) (uncirculated before AFD SDE) (uncirculated before AFD SDE) Appetite For Destruction SDE 27 The Plague (uncirculated before AFD SDE) (uncirculated before AFD SDE) Appetite For Destruction SDE *MISSING* Cornshucker Stomp *MISSING* N/A N/A N/A Pasha Studios, 5615 Melrose Avenue, Hollywood, CA - August (or October?) 1986 - first 2 tracks Spencer Proffer produced, the rest without him 01 Sweet Child O' Mine Metal Petals Metal Petals N/A 02 Nightrain (Alternate Intro) Metal Petals Metal Petals N/A 03 Jumpin’ Jack Flash (Rolling Stones cover) Metal Petals The Alan Niven 1986 Master Tapes N/A 04 You’re Crazy Metal Petals The Alan Niven 1986 Master Tapes N/A 05 Reckless Life Metal Petals The Alan Niven 1986 Master Tapes Suicide EP, Appetite For Destruction SDE (both w "fake crowd) 06 Heartbreak Hotel (Elvis Presley cover) Metal Petals The Alan Niven 1986 Master Tapes N/A 07 Shadow Of Your Love Metal Petals The Alan Niven 1986 Master Tapes ISE 12", Live From The Jungle EP, Appetite For Destruction SDE (all with "fake crowd") 08 Welcome To The Jungle Metal Petals The Alan Niven 1986 Master Tapes N/A 09 Move To The City Metal Petals The Alan Niven 1986 Master Tapes Suicide EP, Appetite For Destruction SDE (both w "fake crowd) 10 Mama Kin ("this is a song about your fuckin' mother" intro, Aerosmith cover) Metal Petals The Alan Niven 1986 Master Tapes Suicide EP, Appetite For Destruction SDE (both w "fake crowd) 11 Nice Boys (Rose Tattoo cover) Metal Petals Metal Petals Suicide EP, Appetite For Destruction SDE (both w "fake crowd) 12 Mr. Brownstone Metal Petals Metal Petals N/A 13 Don’t Cry Metal Petals Metal Petals N/A Clink Try-Out Session -> November 23 1986, Rumbo Recorders, Canoga Park, CA Shadow Of Your Love (uncirculated before AFD SDE) (uncirculated before AFD SDE) Appetite For Destruction SDE (partly re-recorded by NITL lineup) Unknown Date/Session - Unknown 1986/87? *MISSING* You Could Be Mine *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (might not exist) N/A N/A N/A unknown session or rehearsal at Sunset Sound Studios, content is unknown and date was before January 1987 Main Appetite For Destruction Sessions: Mike Clink AFD sessions: January 18th 1987 - March 23rd 1987 (Rumbo/Take One/Can Am Studios CA) + Mixing April-May 1987 (Meda Sound NYC) (note: album version tracks were recorded in various studios - like guitars+vocals Take One, bass+drums Rumbo, and even this was not a rule of thumb) (over time, a number of tapes with "snapshots" from mixing process existed. the following tracks thus are NOT demos, but various mixes of album tracks) *MISSING* early recording sessions *MISSING* (known to exist but not circulating) (typos in liner notes left uncorrected) Anything Goes "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Rocket Queen "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Paradise City "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Nighttrain "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Fucking Crazy "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* It's So Easy w/long intro edit 1/30 "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Think About You 1/30 "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michele 1/30 "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape "Rough Mixes 1/29" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* It's So Easy "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Out To Get Me "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Paradise City "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Rocket Queen "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Nightrain "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Fucking Crazy "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Think About You "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Sweet Child If Mine "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Jungle "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Brownstone "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape "Ref. Mixes 2/4/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Jungle "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Fucking Crazy "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Brownston "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Sweet Child Of Mine "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Out To Get Me "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape "New Gtrs, Rough Vocal 2/7/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Rocket Queen "New Gtrs, Ruff Vox 2/13/87" tape "New Gtrs, Ruff Vox 2/13/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle "New Gtrs, Ruff Vox 2/13/87" tape "New Gtrs, Ruff Vox 2/13/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* It's So Easy - New vocal, new gtr, new "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Anything Goes - New vocal, gtr, b.v. "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Nightrain - New gnr, vocal "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michele - New vocal (no ?), new gtr "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Paradise City - New vocal, b.v.+gtr "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape "Rough Mixes 3/9/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* *MISSING* probably later mixing sessions *MISSING* (known to exist but not circulating) (typos in liner notes left uncorrected) It's So Easy 4/2 "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* It's So Easy 4/2 rhytm gtr up, solo up "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* It's So Easy 4/2 P.G. vocal "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Fuckin' Crazy 4/2 "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Fuckin' Crazy 4/3 "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape "FINAL Mixes ISE, F.C. 4/2-3/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Out To Get Me Tk2 "4/6/87" tape "4/6/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Out To Get Me Tk3 - less snare "4/6/87" tape "4/6/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Out To Get Me - P.G. vocal "4/6/87" tape "4/6/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle - guide(?) "4/6/87" tape "4/6/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* It's So Easy (unknown number of tracks/versions) "It's So Easy 4/10/87" tape "It's So Easy 4/10/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle "My Michelle 4/10/87" tape "My Michelle 4/10/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle - X "My Michelle 4/13/87" tape "My Michelle 4/13/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle - Y "My Michelle 4/13/87" tape "My Michelle 4/13/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle - Z "My Michelle 4/13/87" tape "My Michelle 4/13/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle - R "My Michelle 4/13/87" tape "My Michelle 4/13/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle Take 4 "4/15/87" tape "4/15/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle Take 2 "4/15/87" tape "4/15/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle Take 3 "4/15/87" tape "4/15/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle Take 1 "4/15/87" tape "4/15/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Think About You "4/15/87" tape "4/15/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Brownstone w/Axl adjustments 21/4 "Brownstone Mixes by Niven & Lardie 4/21-22/87" tape "Brownstone Mixes by Niven & Lardie 4/21-22/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Brownstone hype @ 70 22/4 "Brownstone Mixes by Niven & Lardie 4/21-22/87" tape "Brownstone Mixes by Niven & Lardie 4/21-22/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Brownstone hype @ 100 22/4 "Brownstone Mixes by Niven & Lardie 4/21-22/87" tape "Brownstone Mixes by Niven & Lardie 4/21-22/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Brownstone Jellymix 22/4 "Brownstone Mixes by Niven & Lardie 4/21-22/87" tape "Brownstone Mixes by Niven & Lardie 4/21-22/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* It's So Easy - Album Tk 5 "Tom 4/23/87" tape "Tom 4/23/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* It's So Easy - PG(?) Tk 3 "Tom 4/23/87" tape "Tom 4/23/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* It's So Easy Album Tk1 "Tom 4/23/87" tape "Tom 4/23/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle - Mix 8 - Choice? "Tom 4/23/87" tape "Tom 4/23/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michell - Mix 7 "Tom 4/23/87" tape "Tom 4/23/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* It's So Easy (LP) "4/29/87" tape "4/29/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Mr. Brownstone "4/29/87" tape "4/29/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Shadow Of Your Love "4/29/87" tape "4/29/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Move To The City "4/29/87" tape "4/29/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michele "My Michelle 4/29/87" tape "My Michelle 4/29/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Out To Get Me "5/12/87" tape "5/12/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Anything Goes "5/12/87" tape "5/12/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Think About You "5/12/87" tape "5/12/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle "5/12/87" tape "5/12/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* It's So Easy "5/12/87" tape "5/12/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Fuckin' Crazy - Tk 5 "5/14/87" tape "5/14/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Brownstone - Tk 3 "5/14/87" tape "5/14/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Brownstone - Tk 4 "5/14/87" tape "5/14/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Fuckin' Crazy "5/15/87" tape "5/15/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Brownstone "5/15/87" tape "5/15/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Brownstone ?(8) "Brownstone" tape (unknown date) "Brownstone" tape (unknown date) Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle - new "My Michelle" tape (unknown date) "My Michelle" tape (unknown date) Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle - old "My Michelle" tape (unknown date) "My Michelle" tape (unknown date) Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Out To Get Me - choice mix "Out To Get Me" tape (unknown date) "Out To Get Me" tape (unknown date) Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Out To Get Me - P.G. mix "Out To Get Me" tape (unknown date) "Out To Get Me" tape (unknown date) Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Mr. Brownstone "5/19/87" tape "5/19/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Jungle "5/19/87" tape "5/19/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* My Michelle "5/19/87" tape "5/19/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Think About You "5/19/87" tape "5/19/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Child Of Mine "5/19/87" tape "5/19/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Fuckin' Crazy "5/19/87" tape "5/19/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Anything Goes "5/19/87" tape "5/19/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Rocket Queen "5/19/87" tape "5/19/87" tape Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* (more tapes with AFD album version tracklists follow, presumably the final mixes) "5/19/87" (another) and "5/26/87" tapes "5/19/87" (another) and "5/26/87" tapes Appetite For Destruction*, Appetite For Destruction SDE* Appetite For Destruction finally mixed and mastered tracks (album released July 21, 1987): (note: tracks here are in album order, not in recording sessions order) 01 Welcome to the Jungle N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE 02 It’s So Easy N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE 03 Nightrain N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE 04 Out Ta Get Me N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE 05 Mr. Brownstone N/A N/A ISE 12" DJ promo (different mix), Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE 06 Paradise City N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE 07 My Michelle N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE 08 Think About You N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE 09 Sweet Child O’ Mine N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE 10 You’re Crazy N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE 11 Anything Goes N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE 12 Rocket Queen N/A N/A Appetite For Destruction, Appetite For Destruction SDE LIES Sessions (produced by Mike Clink, album released November 29, 1988): July 29 1987, Take One Studio, Burbank, CA (the 3 unreleased tracks are from unknown session, but it seems they could have been recorded at this one) 01 Patience N/A The Alan Niven Lies Sessions GNR Lies, Appetite For Destruction SDE One In A Million (alt. take) The Alan Niven Lies Sessions The Alan Niven Lies Sessions N/A You’re Crazy (alt. take)(date and studio uncertain - AFD SDE liner notes say Take One 87, but in tracklists it usually is between "Rumbo" OIAM alt and UTLH alt) N/A The Alan Niven Lies Sessions Welcome To The Jungle CDS, Appetite For Destruction SDE Used To Love Her (alt. take) The Alan Niven Lies Sessions The Alan Niven Lies Sessions N/A Cornshucker The Alan Niven Lies Sessions The Alan Niven Lies Sessions N/A *MISSING* Jumpin Jack Flash (Acoustic) *MISSING* (mentioned in August 1987 interview, might be from Take One session or separate session) N/A N/A N/A Rumbo Studios, Canoga Park, CA - January 1988 (some sources say August, but it doesn't seem likely due to many shows around the world) 04 One In A Million N/A N/A GNR Lies April 19-20 1988, Image Studio, Hollywood, CA (UTLH+YC 19th, MTTC 20th) 02 Used To Love Her N/A N/A GNR Lies, Appetite For Destruction SDE 03 You're Crazy N/A N/A GNR Lies, Appetite For Destruction SDE Move To The City (Acoustic) (uncirculated before AFD SDE) (uncirculated before AFD SDE) Appetite For Destruction SDE (partly re-recorded by NITL lineup) Pre-Use Your Illusions Sessions: *MISSING* Top Note Theatre, Chicago, IL rehearsal space, Jun-Jul 1989 *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (early UYI writing sessions) N/A N/A N/A Mates Rehearsal Studios, North Hollywood, CA - December 6, 1989 (without Axl, still with Steven Adler) 01 Don't Damn Me (Instrumental Take #1) Cass(1) Studio Mixing Board>Cass(M)>Cass(1) (Notch Filtered 1728 @ Q18.5 & two small dropouts fixed) N/A 02 Don't Damn Me (Instrumental Take #2) Cass(1) Studio Mixing Board>Cass(M)>Cass(1) (Notch Filtered 1728 @ Q18.5) N/A 03 Garden Of Eden (Instrumental) Cass(1) Studio Mixing Board>Cass(M)>Cass(1) (Notch Filtered 1728 @ Q18.5) N/A 04 Locomotive (Instrumental) Cass(1) Studio Mixing Board>Cass(M)>Cass(1) (Notch Filtered 1728 @ Q18.5) N/A 05 Dust N' Bones (Duff McKagan on Vocals) Cass(1) Studio Mixing Board>Cass(M)>Cass(1) (Notch Filtered 1728 @ Q18.5) N/A *MISSING* Bad Apples *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (some people claim to have more complete tape including this song) N/A N/A N/A *MISSING* Coma *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (some people claim to have more complete tape including this song) N/A N/A N/A *MISSING* (drummer sessions February - June 1990, including Jussi Tegelman, Adam Maples, Martin Chambers) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A Days of Thunder session - probably between April and June 1990, it seems like Matt Sorum was already around, mixes DAT says June 21st, DOT released June 26th Knockin' On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan cover) N/A N/A Days of Thunder OST, Use Your Illusion II (edited version), Use Your Illusion (1998, further edited version) Unknown sessions or mixes - presumably these happened before or during the main Civil War sessions, circa April to June 1990 at latest Civil War (Instrumental)(HTGTH says Mates Rehearsal 89, but that's probably wrong) Ultra Rare Trax Vol. VI Utra Rare Trax Vol. VI (Notch Filtered 1728 @ Q18.5) N/A Civil War (overdubbed version from above) Ultra Rare Trax Vol. VI Utra Rare Trax Vol. VI (Notch Filtered 1728 @ Q18.5) N/A April-May or June 1990 Civil War sessions - A&M Studios/Take One Studios, Steven Adler on drums (fired July 11, 1990, Nobody's Child released July 23rd) Civil War N/A N/A Nobody's Child, Use Your Illusion II Main Use Your Illusions sessions: UYI: A&M Studios, Record Plant Studios, Studio 56, Image Recording, Conway Studios, Metalworks Recording Studios, Skip Saylor Recording (album mixing) TSI: A&M Studios, Record Plant Studios, Rumbo Recorders, CanAm Studios, Sound Techniques, Triad Studios, Conway Recording Studios, Ocean Way Recording basic tracks (drums, bass, Izzy) circa Aug-Sep 1990, lead guitar circa Sep-Nov 1990, vocals and fx circa Oct-Dec 1990, various overdubs circa Dec 1990 to August 1991 (over time, a number of DAT tapes with "snapshots" from mixing process existed. the following tracks thus are NOT demos, but mostly mixes of album tracks) Record Plant Recording Studios - September 21, 1990 (instrumental rough mixes) 01 Estranged (Instrumental) “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT Use Your Illusion II* 02 Locomotive (Instrumental) “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT Use Your Illusion II* 03 Breakdown (Instrumental) “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT Use Your Illusion II* 04 The Garden (Instrumental) “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT Use Your Illusion I* 05 Black Leather (Instrumental) (TSI album take with Izzy on guitar, Steve Jones/The Sex Pistols cover) “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT The Spaghetti Incident?* 06 I Don’t Care About You (Instrumental) (TSI album take with Izzy on guitar, Fear cover) “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT The Spaghetti Incident?* 07 Attitude (Instrumental) (TSI album take with Izzy on guitar, Misfits cover) “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT The Spaghetti Incident?* 08 New Rose (Instrumental) (TSI album take with Izzy on guitar, The Damned cover) “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT The Spaghetti Incident?* 09 14 Years (Alternate Lyrics & Alternate Outro, with Izzy on vocals & "Duff's new bass") “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT “Ruffs with New Slash Guitar” DAT N/A October 26th 1990 (rough mix) *MISSING* Estranged (rough mix) *MISSING* (known to exist but not circulating) "GN'R Rough Mixes" DAT "GN'R Rough Mixes" DAT Use Your Illusion II* October 30th 1990 (rough mix) *MISSING* Estranged (rough mix) *MISSING* (known to exist but not circulating) "GN'R Estranged Rough Mix" DAT "GN'R Estranged Rough Mix" DAT Use Your Illusion II* November 2nd 1990 (rough mix) *MISSING* Coma (Instrumental with Axl's notes where which vocals will go) *MISSING* (known to exist but not circulating) "GN'R Ruff with New Axl Vocal" DAT "GN'R Ruff with New Axl Vocal" DAT Use Your Illusion I* Mike Clink produced Record Plant Recording Studios, Los Angeles, CA - December 16, 1990 - January 16, 1991, cassette says January 18, 1991 01 November Rain (Original Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion I* 02 November Rain (Q Sound Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A 03 Live and Let Die (Original Mix) (Paul McCartney and Wings cover) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion I* 04 Live and Let Die (Q Sound Mix) (Paul McCartney and Wings cover) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A 05 Estranged (Original Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion II* 06 Estranged (Q Sound Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A 07 Double Talkin' Jive (Original Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion I* 08 Double Talkin' Jive (Q Sound Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A 09 You Ain't The First (Original Mix - Alternate Take) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A 10 You Aint The First (Q Sound Mix - Alternate Take) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A 11 Yesterdays (Original Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion II* 12 Yesterdays (Q Sound Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A 13 Pretty Tied Up (Original Mix - Extended. Outro) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion II* 14 Pretty Tied Up (Q Sound Mix - Extended. Outro) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A 15 You Could Be Mine (Original Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion II* 16 You Could Be Mine (Q Sound Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A 17 Bad Apples (Original Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion I* 18 Bad Apples (Q Sound Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A 19 Don't Cry (Original Lyrics) (Original Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion I*, Don't Cry CDS* 20 Don't Cry (Original Lyrics) (Q Sound Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A 21 Don't Cry (Alternate Lyrics) (Original Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT Use Your Illusion II*, Don't Cry CDS* 22 Don't Cry (Alternate Lyrics) (Q Sound Mix) “GN'R Mixes” DAT “GN'R Mixes” DAT N/A *MISSING* Some other DAT tapes from Recording Plant Studios *MISSING* (known to exist but not circulating) 01 Perfect Crime "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I* 02 Dust + Bones (or Dust N' Bones) "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I* 03 So Fine "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion II* 04 Double Talkin' Jive "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I* 05 You Ain't The First "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I* 06 Dead Horse "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I* 07 Shotgun Blues "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion II* 08 Bad Obsession "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I* 09 Right Next Door To Hell "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I* 10 Down On The Farm (U.K. Subs cover) "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT The Spaghetti Incident?* 11 Back Off Bitch "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I* 12 Bad Apples "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I* 13 Ain't Goin' Down "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT GN'R Pinball Machine* 14 Pretty Tied Up "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion II* 15 Why Do You Look At Me (early name for Get In The Ring) "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion II* 16 Don't Cry "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I or II* 17 Live And Let Die (Paul McCartney and Wings cover) "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I* 18 Garden of Eden "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I* 19 Coma "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I* 20 Don't Damn Me "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion I* 21 Locomotive "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion II* 22 Breakdown "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion II* 23 Estranged "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion II* 24 Yesterday (or Yesterdays) "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT Use Your Illusion II* 25 Black Leather (Steve Jones/The Sex Pistols cover) "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #1" DAT The Spaghetti Incident?* 01 I Don't Care About You (Fear cover) "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT The Spaghetti Incident?* 02 Attitude (Misfits cover) "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT The Spaghetti Incident?* 03 New Rose (The Damned cover) "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT The Spaghetti Incident?* 04 14 Years "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT Use Your Illusion II* 05 You Could Be Mine "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT Use Your Illusion II* 06 November Rain "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT Use Your Illusion I* 07 The Garden "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT Use Your Illusion I* 08 Estranged / Without You "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT "GN'R Ruffs #2" DAT Use Your Illusion II* *MISSING* Bill Price mixes (March-July 1991) *MISSING* (known to exist but not circulating) RIght Next Door To Hell (Take 2) (date January 12th 1991 on the tape) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I* RIght Next Door To Hell (Take 3) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I* RIght Next Door To Hell (Take 4) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I* Right Next Door To Hell ("night mix 31.1.91 SSL mix Take 1") "Mixes (Bill Price) 3/91" DAT "Mixes (Bill Price) 3/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I* Right Next Door To Hell ("Take 2 less gtrs") "Mixes (Bill Price) 3/91" DAT "Mixes (Bill Price) 3/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I* Right Next Door To Hell ("Take 3 thinner base, end cym") "Mixes (Bill Price) 3/91" DAT "Mixes (Bill Price) 3/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I* Right Next Door To Hell ("Take 4 track T1, voc T3") "Mixes (Bill Price) 3/91" DAT "Mixes (Bill Price) 3/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I* Don't Cry ("end of night") "Bill Price Mixes - Don't Cry - 3.18.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes - Don't Cry - 3.18.91" DAT Use Your Illusion I or II*, Don't Cry CDS* Don't Cry (Demo)(Take 1) "Don't Cry - Demo Version 3.19.91" DAT "Don't Cry - Demo Version 3.19.91" DAT Don't Cry CDS* Don't Cry (Original Lyrics)(Take 2) ("more ld. gtr.") "Don't Cry - Original Lyrics - 3.19.91" DAT "Don't Cry - Original Lyrics - 3.19.91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*, Don't Cry CDS* Don't Cry (Original Lyrics)(Take 3) ("more Axl main vocal") "Don't Cry - Original Lyrics - 3.19.91" DAT "Don't Cry - Original Lyrics - 3.19.91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*, Don't Cry CDS* Don't Cry (Alternate Lyrics)(Take 2) ("w/ Axl vocal trims") "Don't Cry - 3.21.91" DAT "Don't Cry - 3.21.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*, Don't Cry CDS* Don't Cry (Demo)(Take 2) ("Axl's gtr + voc. changes") "Don't Cry - 3.21.91" DAT "Don't Cry - 3.21.91" DAT Don't Cry CDS* Don't Cry (Demo)(Take 3) ("as take 2 w/ more Izzy BG's") "Don't Cry - 3.21.91" DAT "Don't Cry - 3.21.91" DAT Don't Cry CDS* RIght Next Door To Hell (Take 4) (maybe the same take as above, just on a different tape) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I* Shotgun Blues (Take 2) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT Use Your Illusion II* 14 Years (Take 4) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT Use Your Illusion II* Don't Cry (Original Lyrics)(Take 4) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT Use Your Illusion I*, Don't Cry CDS* Don't Cry (Alternate Lyrics)(Take 4) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT Use Your Illusion II*, Don't Cry CDS* Don't Cry (Demo)(presumably this was the old Mystic Studios 1985 track, with new mix for Don't Cry single released in Sep 1991) "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 3/91-4/91" DAT Don't Cry CDS* Pretty Tied Up (Take 2) ("w/ Axl's (...) ") "Bill Price Mixes - Pretty Tied Up - 4.4.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes - Pretty Tied Up - 4.4.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II* Pretty Tied Up (Take 3( ("alternate - tad more drums + ld. gtr.") "Bill Price Mixes - Pretty Tied Up - 4.4.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes - Pretty Tied Up - 4.4.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II* So Fine (Take 1) "Bill Price Mixes 4.16.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 4.16.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II* Perfect Crime (Take 1) "Bill Price Mixes 4.16.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 4.16.91" DAT Use Your Illusion I* Perfect Crime (Take 2) ("fatter voc.") "Bill Price Mixes 4.16.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes 4.16.91" DAT Use Your Illusion I* Locomotive (Take 2) "Bill Price Mixes - Locomotive - 4.22.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes - Locomotive - 4.22.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II* Locomotive (Take 3) ("more normal vocal balance in c. 2.45") "Bill Price Mixes - Locomotive - 4.22.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes - Locomotive - 4.22.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II* Locomotive (Take 4) ("safety of Take 2 (...) more vocals") "Bill Price Mixes - Locomotive - 4.22.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes - Locomotive - 4.22.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II* 14 Years (Take 6) ("as Take 4 with more Axl vocals") "Bill Price Mixes - 14 YEARS - 7.5.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes - 14 YEARS - 7.5.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II* 14 Years (Take 7) ("as Take 4 with even more Axl vocals") "Bill Price Mixes - 14 YEARS - 7.5.91" DAT "Bill Price Mixes - 14 YEARS - 7.5.91" DAT Use Your Illusion II* Axl’s Advance Copy - Unknown date 1990-1991 (rough mixes of album versions, maybe from various dates) 01 Ain't Goin' Down "Axl's Advance Tape" "Axl's Advance Tape" GN'R Pinball Machine* 02 Get In The Ring (Instrumental) (Bridge lyrics only) "Axl's Advance Tape" "Axl's Advance Tape" Use Your Illusion II* 03 Dust N' Bones Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Use Your Illusion I* 04 Bad Obsession Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Use Your Illusion I* 05 Back Off Bitch Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Use Your Illusion I* 06 Double Talkin' Jive Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Use Your Illusion I* 07 November Rain Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Use Your Illusion I* 08 The Garden Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Use Your Illusion I* 09 Garden Of Eden Metal Petals (Live & Demos) Metal Petals (Live & Demos) Use Your Illusion I* 10 Don't Damn Me (Alternate vocal track) "Axl's Advance Tape" "Axl's Advance Tape" Use Your Illusion I* 11 Bad Apples Metal Petals (Live & Demos) Metal Petals (Live & Demos) Use Your Illusion I* 12 Dead Horse Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Use Your Illusion I* 13 Coma (without quotes) Metal Petals (Live & Demos) Metal Petals (Live & Demos) Use Your Illusion I* 14 Civil War Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Axl's Advance Copy (LOSSY SOURCE) Use Your Illusion II* Mike Clink produced Metalworks Recording Studios, Toronto, Canada - June 9-10, 1991 (probably vocal overdubs and effects) Get In The Ring N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I* (with fake crowd recorded during June 10th show in Saratoga) Use Your Illusions and The Spaghetti Incident? mixed and mastered tracks (UYI released September 17, 1991): (note: tracks here are in album order, not in recording sessions order) Right Next Door to Hell N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I Dust N' Bones N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I Live and Let Die (Paul McCartney and Wings cover) N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I Don't Cry" (Original) N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I Perfect Crime N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I You Ain't the First N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I Bad Obsession N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I Back Off Bitch N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I Double Talkin' Jive N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I November Rain N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I The Garden N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I Garden of Eden N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I Don't Damn Me N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I Bad Apples N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I Dead Horse N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I Coma N/A N/A Use Your Illusion I 14 Years N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II Yesterdays N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II Get in the Ring N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II Shotgun Blues N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II Breakdown N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II Pretty Tied Up (The Perils of Rock n' Roll Decadence) N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II Locomotive (Complicity) N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II So Fine N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II Estranged N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II You Could Be Mine N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II Don't Cry (Alt. Lyrics) N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II Ain't Going Down N/A N/A GN'R Pinball Machine Attitude (with Izzy on guitar, Misfits cover) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident? New Rose (with Izzy on guitar, The Damned cover) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident? Black Leather (with Izzy on guitar, Steve Jones/The Sex Pistols cover) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident? Down On The Farm (with Izzy on guitar, U.K. Subs cover) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident? I Don't Care About You (with Izzy on guitar, Fear cover) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident? Ain't It Fun (Izzy NOT on guitar, Dead Boys cover) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident? My World (probably wasn't part of any of the main sessions and was made separately) N/A N/A Use Your Illusion II Later sessions (various sessions for The Spaghetti Incident? tracks, solo sessions - The Spaghetti Incident? released November 23, 1993): Recording sessions probably for Duff's solo album - Triad Studios, Redmond, WA between 14-17 of July 1991 You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory (confirmed in 1991 interview, Johnny Thunders cover) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident? Unknown Recording Session - 1992 Love Theme From The Godfather (also originally known as "Speak Softly, Love" by Nino Rota) N/A N/A The Kid Stays In The Picture OST Sound Techniques Inc., Boston, MA - March 1993 Since I Don't Have You (The Skyliners cover) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident? Also recorded after UYI sessions, that is later during UYI tour: Human Being (New York Dolls cover, recorded during UYI tour with Gilby, sometimes between 1992 and 1993) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident? Hair Of The Dog (Nazareth cover, recorded during UYI tour with Gilby, sometimes between 1992 and 1993) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident? Raw Power (The Stooges cover, recorded during UYI tour with Gilby, sometimes between 1992 and 1993) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident? Buick Makane (T. Rex cover, recorded during UYI tour or little after it) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident? *MISSING* Down On The Street (instrumental, The Stooges cover) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A *MISSING* Beer And Cigarette (instrumental, Hanoi Rocks cover) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A Look At Your Game, Girl (Charles Manson cover, recorded May 1993 or later - likely after UYI Tour ended in July 1993, only by Axl, Dizzy and Carlos Booy) N/A N/A The Spaghetti Incident? *MISSING* This I Love (Axl's piano instrumental) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (around London or Paris show 1992, or Sydney 1993) N/A N/A N/A early sketch of Back And Forth Again (excerpt can be heard during the Making of Estranged documentary) N/A N/A Making of Estranged The Complex Studio, LA sessions - until March or April 1994 (probably Slash, Duff, Matt and Gilby) N/A N/A N/A Sympathy Recording Session at Rumbo Recorders, Canoga Park - October 1994 - produced by Mike Clink Sympathy For The Devil (Rolling Stones cover) N/A N/A Interview With The Vampire OST, Sympathy For The Devil CDS Unknown sessions - January 1995 (with Zakk Wylde) N/A N/A N/A Unknown studio recording by Duff and Izzy - around April 1995 *MISSING* "10 pieces" including Down By The Ocean or Down By The Sea, Machine Gun (at least 3 takes) and Tooth Puller (the latter two dated April 18 1995) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A The Complex Studio, LA (?) sessions - May or June 1996 ("the folky nonsense", Shaq jamming and others - The Shadow Company with various others) N/A N/A N/A Unknown sessions - around August 1996 (Slash, Duff and others - "the next Jackie Chan movie" - Slash left in October 1996, Duff in August 1997) N/A N/A N/A Oh My God (early version existed when Matt Sorum was still in) N/A N/A N/A Unknown sessions - around January 1997 (Robin Finck joined at that date, Moby at February/March, Matt Sorum left April/May, Chris Vrenna auditioned April 1997) N/A N/A N/A Dave Abbruzzese auditioning (May 1997) [NO PROOF THE RECORDING IS LEGIT AT ALL - LIKELY FAKE AS HELL] rehearsal tape - likely fake rehearsal tape - likely fake N/A (Joey Castillo was on drums in summer 1997, left around August 1997) "Chinese Democracy eras" (note: only officially released tracks are available in lossless quality; all the "leaks" are LOSSY): 1998-1999 studio sessions (Rumbo Studios confirmed in early 1998, Josh Freese joined March 1998, Tommy Stinson first confirmed April 1998) *MISSING* Prostitute, Madagascar (probably instrumentals only) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (confirmed to be produced by Youth Jan-Sep 1998) N/A N/A N/A *MISSING* AFD '98-'99 *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (multiple re-recording are known to have been done, Sean Beavan NOT involved) N/A N/A N/A Sweet Child O' Mine (partly from the AFD'99 sessions, produced by Sean Beavan as one-off(?), movie released June 25, 1999) N/A N/A Big Daddy (not part of the OST) "Live Era" - produced by Del James, Sean Beavan NOT involved, mixed by Andy Wallace July 12-29, released November 23, 1999 Live Era sessions [NOT INCLUDED for obvious reasons] (partly re-recorded newly in the studio) N/A N/A Live Era '87-'93 Sean Beavan sessions (he got onboard in Sep 1999, left very early 2000) Oh My God (released November 2, 1999) (produced by Sean Beavan, co-produced by Axl, mixed by Terry Date) N/A N/A End of Days OST *MISSING* Daddy Can the Devil do Mommy and me? *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (composed by the same time End of Days was released) N/A N/A N/A *MISSING* "The Beavan album" *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE](rumored to be mixed and mastered in early 2000) N/A N/A N/A Brian May guest guitar (around mid-November 1999 or up to Christmas 1999, likely using a older tracks from 1999, Beavan might or might not be involved at this point) Catcher In The Rye N/A N/A N/A Atlas Shrugged N/A N/A N/A Perhaps (unconfirmed that this is the third May track) N/A N/A N/A "1999 leaked demos" - either recorded in Rumbo Studios, or less likely in The Village, West Los Angeles, CA N/A Catcher in The Rye (Brian May on guitar) (earlier or alternate version of the 3/27/00 track below) (leaked Feb 28, 2006) (leaked Feb 28, 2006) N/A IRS (identical version as the 3/27/00 track below, only kept here because it still might be original Beavan track, just later re-used without changes) (leaked May 27, 2006 - "Razz leak") "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A There Was A Time (leaked May 27, 2006 - "Razz leak") (leaked May 27, 2006 - "Razz leak") N/A Hard School (original excerpt leaked as bogus title "Checkmate", in 2008 confirmed working title "Jackie Chan") (leaked May 27, 2006 - "Razz leak", excerpt only) "Rough Mixes CD #3" (uncertain, only the excerpt was available for comparison) N/A Roy Thomas Baker sessions (early 2000 Rough Mixes maybe still recorded at Rumbo Studios, Village Studios only indirectly confirmed October 2000) (Josh Freese finished drum parts before March 18 and left, it took Brain a few months until he joined - only officially confirmed October 2000) 2000 Rough Mixes CDs - at least the March tracks seem to have still been recorded at Rumbo and produced by Sean Beavan, only re-used later in The Village for the Rough Mixes compilation (dates seem to likely indicate mixing dates rather than recording dates) 03 Atlas Shrugged (25) (3/27/00) (with Brian May guitar) "Rough Mixes CD #1" "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A 04 Perhaps (19) (3/27/00) (unconfirmed, but rumored to be with Brian May guitar) (leaked September 13, 2019) "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A 05 Prostitute (23) (3/27/00) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A 06 Catcher (30) (3/27/00) (with Brian May guitar) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A 05 Quick Song (10) (3/27/00) "Rough Mixes CD #2" "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A 03 State of Grace (12) (3/27/00) (leaked September 13, 2019) "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A 04 Oklahaoma (10) (3/23/00) (probably a typo of Oklahoma) "Rough Mixes CD #3" "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A 06 I.R.S. (21) (3/27/00) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A 01 Me & My Elvis (#10) (3/23/00) (probably another name for Leave Me Alone/Soul Monster/Elvis Presley & The Monster of Soul) (leaked September 21, 2019) "Rough Mixes CD #4" N/A 03 D Tune (11) (3/23/00) "Rough Mixes CD #4" "Rough Mixes CD #4" N/A 04 Curly Shuffle (15) (3/23/00) "Rough Mixes CD #4" "Rough Mixes CD #4" N/A 07 Tonto (BLK/FRG dat) (#3) (7/14/00) "Rough Mixes CD #2" "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A 08 REAL DOLL.com (B. Head cd) (#2) (9/14/00) "Rough Mixes CD #2" "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A 09 Shankler's Revenge (cd) (#1) (9/14/00) (might or might not be a typo, early version of Shackler's Revenge) "Rough Mixes CD #2" "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A 02 Dub Suplex (dat #5) (10/05/00) "Rough Mixes CD #3" "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A 05 Devious Bastard (#6) (10/05/00) "Rough Mixes CD #3" "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A 08 Dummy (#8) (10/05/00) "Rough Mixes CD #3" "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A 02 There Was A Time (#10) (10/12/00) (leaked June 10, 2018) "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A 01 Billionare (dat #2) (10/15/00) (probably a typo of Billionaire) "Rough Mixes CD #3" "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A 09 The Blues (#6) (10/23/00) (leaked June 10, 2018) "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A 10 I'm Sorry (B. Head cd) (#1) 10/26/00) (early version of Sorry) "Rough Mixes CD #2" "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A 01 Madagascar (Drum Adds) (11/05/00) (leaked Novembe 12, 2017) "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A 06 Rhiad (ver. 1) (11/07/00) "Rough Mixes CD #1" "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A 08 Chinese Democracy (Ver. 1) (11/05/00) "Rough Mixes CD #1" "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A 10 Silkworms (Ver. 1) (11/07/00) (leaked September 7, 2019) "Rough Mixes CD #1" N/A 02 Eye On You (Ver. 1) (11/07/00) (leaked September 20, 2019) "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A 03 If The World (Ver. 1) (11/07/00) "Rough Mixes CD #2" "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A 04 Moustache (Ver. 1) (11/07/00) "Rough Mixes CD #2" "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A 02 Circus Maximus (Ver. 1) (11/07/00) "Rough Mixes CD #4" "Rough Mixes CD #4" N/A 06 As It Began (Ver. 1) (11/07/00) (leaked September 15, 2019) "Rough Mixes CD #4" N/A 01 P.R.L. w/out Thyme (no gtrs.) (11/08/00) (leaked October 3, 2019) "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A 06 Zodiac 13 (no vox) (Ver. 4) (11/08/00) "Rough Mixes CD #2" "Rough Mixes CD #2" N/A 07 Hardschool (nu Ax) (12) (11/08/00) (formerly leaked as excerpt under title "Checkmate" or Jackie Chan) (leaked July 26, 2019, excerpt only) "Rough Mixes CD #3" N/A 05 Nothing (Ver. 1) (11/08/00) "Rough Mixes CD #4" "Rough Mixes CD #4" N/A 07 Thyme (P.R.L.) (11/08/00) "Rough Mixes CD #4" "Rough Mixes CD #4" N/A 2001 mix CDs - dates seem to likely indicate mixing dates rather than recording dates 01 Inside Out (4/3/01) "Robin/Tommy demos" CD "Robin - Tommy demos" CD N/A 02 3 Dollar Pyramid (4/3/01) (early version of Better) "Robin/Tommy demos" CD "Robin - Tommy demos" CD N/A 03 Tommy Demo #1 (4/3/01) "Robin/Tommy demos" CD "Robin - Tommy demos" CD N/A 04 Going Down acoustic (4/3/01) (listed as Tommy Demo #2) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") "Robin - Tommy demos" CD N/A 01 Chinese Democracy (Doubled Guitars) (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A 02 Chinese Democracy (Single Guitars) (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A 03 Quick Song (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A 04 Prostitute (Original Drums) (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A 05 Prostitute (Chopped Drums) (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A 06 The Blues (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A 07 Rhiad & The Bedouins (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A 08 There Was A Time (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A 09 Atlas Shrugged (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A 10 Zodiac 13 (6/1/01) "Rough Mixes" CD "Rough Mixes" CD N/A 01 Madagascar (drums up) ("version Tom likes") (06/27/01) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A 02 Madagascar (drums up, instrumental) (06/27/01) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A 03 Madagascar (drums up 3dB) (06/27/01) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A 04 Madagascar (drums down 3dB, instrumental) (06/27/01) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A 05 Madagascar (old Josh drums) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A 06 Madagascar (original Brain drums) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A 07 Chinese Democracy (old Josh drums) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") "New Brain Drums" CD N/A 08 Chinese Democracy (new Brain drums) (presumably 06/27/01) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A 09 The Blues (old Josh drums) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") "New Brain Drums" CD N/A 10 The Blues (new Brain drums) (presumably 06/27/01) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A 11 Rhiad (old Josh drums) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") "New Brain Drums" CD N/A 12 Rhiad (new Brain drums) (presumably 06/27/01) "New Brain Drums" CD "New Brain Drums" CD N/A 01 Madagascar (with vocals) (7/02/01) "Madagascar" CD "Madagascar" CD N/A 02 Madagascar (instrumental) (7/02/01) "Madagascar" CD "Madagascar" CD N/A 01 Rhiad (Original Rough Mix) (7/11/01) "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD N/A 02 Rhiad (Final Rough Mix with Compression) (Vocals at Regular Level) (7/11/01) "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD N/A 03 Rhiad (Final Rough Mix with Compression) (Vocals Up) (7/11/01) "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD N/A 04 Rhiad (Final Rough Mix with No Compression) (Vocals at Regular Level) (7/11/01) "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD N/A 05 Rhiad (Final Rough Mix with No Compression) (Vocals up) (7/11/01) "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD "Rhiad - New Brain Drum Take" CD N/A 01 The Blues (vocal at regular level) (7/13/01) "The Blues - New Brain Drum Takes" CD "The Blues - New Brain Drum Takes" CD N/A 02 The Blues (vocal down 1dB) (7/13/01) "The Blues - New Brain Drum Takes" CD "The Blues - New Brain Drum Takes" CD N/A 03 The Blues (instrumental) (7/13/01) "The Blues - New Brain Drum Takes" CD "The Blues - New Brain Drum Takes" CD N/A 01 Rhiad (07/19/01) "Rough Mixes - New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl" CD "Rough Mixes - New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl" CD N/A 02 Rhiad (Eq'd Toms) (07/19/01) "Rough Mixes - New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl" CD "Rough Mixes - New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl" CD N/A 03 Prostitute (07/19/01) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") "Rough Mixes - New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl" CD N/A 04 The Blues (07/19/01) "Rough Mixes - New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl" CD "Rough Mixes - New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl" CD N/A 01 There Was A Time (less ambience on drums) (08/03/01) "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD N/A 02 There Was A Time (more ambience on drums) (08/03/01) "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD N/A 03 There Was A Time (snare compressed only) (08/03/01) "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD N/A 04 There Was A Time (strings up) (08/03/01) "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD N/A 05 There Was A Time (old Beavan mix) "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD "TWAT - Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums" CD N/A 01 Atlas Shrugged (drums at regular level) (08/20/01) (leaked August 20, 2019) "Atlas Shrugged - New Brain Drums" CD N/A 02 Atlas Shrugged (drums up 1,5dB) (08/20/01) (leaked September 5, 2019) "Atlas Shrugged - New Brain Drums" CD N/A 03 Atlas Shrugged (drums down 1,5dB) (08/20/01) "Atlas Shrugged - New Brain Drums" CD "Atlas Shrugged - New Brain Drums" CD N/A 01 There Was A Time (ambience down, mono room off) (08/27/01) "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD N/A 02 There Was A Time (ambience down with mono room) (08/27/01) "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD N/A 03 There Was A Time (ambience at original level) (08/27/01) "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD N/A 04 There Was A Time (snare sample during outro only) (08/27/01) "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD N/A 05 There Was A Time (first half with old snare, second half with snare sample only) (08/27/01) "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD "TWAT - Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms" CD N/A 01 Chinese Democracy (drums and guitars at regular level) (9/06/01) Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD N/A 02 Chinese Democracy (drums up 1dB) (9/06/01) Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD N/A 03 Chinese Democracy (drums up 2dB) (9/06/01) Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD N/A 04 Chinese Democracy (guitars up 2,5dB, drums at regular level) (9/06/01) Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD N/A 05 Chinese Democracy (guitars up 1,5dB) (9/06/01) Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD N/A 06 Chinese Democracy (guitars up 0,7dB) (9/06/01) (leaked August 28, 2019 - "Numbers leak") Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD N/A 07 Chinese Democracy (instrumental with drums and guitars at regular level) (9/06/01) Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD Chinese Democracy - "New Brain Drums (3rd Time)" CD N/A 01 Quick Song (Bucket Take - Full Take Without Vocals) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 02 Quick Song (Bucket Take - Full Take with Vocal) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 03 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 0) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 04 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 1) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 05 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 2) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 06 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 3) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 07 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 4) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 08 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 5) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 09 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 6) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 10 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 7) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 11 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 8) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 12 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 9) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 13 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 10) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 14 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 11) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 15 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 12) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 16 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 13) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 17 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 14) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 18 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 15) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 19 Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo) (Take 16) (9/29/01) "Quick Song" CD "Quick Song" CD N/A 01 Knockin' (Acoustic Version) w/Axl (Take 3) (9/29/01) (leaked September 14, 2019) "Knockin'/Jungle" CD N/A 02 Warmup... (9/29/01) (not an actual track, just some studio talking between songs, for some reason tracked separately) "Knockin'/Jungle" CD "Knockin'/Jungle" CD N/A 03 Knockin' (Electric Version) (Take 5) (9/29/01) "Knockin'/Jungle" CD "Knockin'/Jungle" CD N/A 04 Welcome To The Jungle (9/29/01) "Knockin'/Jungle" CD "Knockin'/Jungle" CD N/A 05 Knockin' (Acoustic Version) (Take 3 from 10/08/01) "Knockin'/Jungle" CD "Knockin'/Jungle" CD N/A 01 Prom Violence (Take 2) (11/13/01) "New Songs - Straight Analog Downloads" CD "New Songs - Straight Analog Downloads" CD N/A 02 Prom Violence (Take 3) (11/13/01) "New Songs - Straight Analog Downloads" CD "New Songs - Straight Analog Downloads" CD N/A 03 Three Dollar Pyramid (Take 2) (11/13/01) (early version of Better) (leaked September 15, 2019) "New Songs - Straight Analog Downloads" CD N/A 04 Three Dollar Pyramid (Take 4) (11/13/01) (early version of Better) "New Songs - Straight Analog Downloads" CD "New Songs - Straight Analog Downloads" CD N/A 01 The Rebel "The Rebel - Straight Analog Download" CD "The Rebel - Straight Analog Download" CD N/A *MISSING* "The Roy Thomas Baker album" *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (mixing finished October 2001, RTB left February 2002) N/A N/A N/A "2002 era" (Richard Fortus auditioned 17/18th May) *MISSING* Paul Buckmaster arrangements at Village Studios (July to September 2002) *MISSING* does not circulate The Blues N/A N/A N/A There Was A Time N/A N/A N/A Madagascar N/A N/A N/A Prostitute N/A N/A N/A *MISSING* Marco Beltrami orchestrations (also around July 2002, also probably at Village Studios) *MISSING* does not circulate Thyme N/A N/A N/A Seven N/A N/A N/A Leave Me Alone N/A N/A N/A The General N/A N/A N/A Boston/Albany radio promo (snippets of Chinese Democracy, Madagascar and The Blues) + tour promo videos (only Chinese Democracy and Madagascar) N/A N/A Boston and Albany radio promo, tour promo video "Piazza incident" and "Crazy Horse Too strip club discs" demos - not newer than July 2003 IRS (played on Piazza-Trunk Aug 30, 2003) (leaked Feb 15, 2006) N/A There Was A Time (short version) (leaked Feb 17, 2006) (leaked Feb 17, 2006) N/A There Was A Time (long version) (leaked Feb 17, 2006) (leaked Feb 17, 2006) N/A Better (leaked Feb 22, 2006) (leaked Feb 22, 2006) N/A IRS (instrumental) (leaked Mar 10, 2006) (leaked Mar 10, 2006) N/A There Was A Time (short version instrumental) (leaked Mar 15, 2006) (leaked Mar 15, 2006) N/A There Was A Time (long version instrumental) (leaked Mar 14, 2006) (leaked Mar 14, 2006) N/A Better (instrumental) (leaked Mar 08, 2006) (leaked Mar 08, 2006) N/A Village Studios sessions end in February 2004 - some confirmed in early 2004 Woodland Studios confirmed in April 2004 and summer 2005 "2006 Bumblefoot guitar overlays" - BBF received an older demo track to lay guitar upon, shortly after he joined (recorded May 2006, demos are 2000-ish) Going Down (leaked Aug 16, 2013) (leaked Aug 16, 2013) N/A Oh My God (leaked Dec 09, 2013, excerpt only) (leaked Jun 07, 2018) N/A Silkworms (leaked Dec 09, 2013, excerpt only) (leaked Jun 08, 2018) N/A *MISSING* Atlas Shrugged *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] N/A N/A N/A "Harley Davidson Incident" Better (the same version as used in officially un-released via Harley Davidson commercial, scheduled to go on air in early November 2006) (leaked Feb 20, 2007) (leaked Feb 20, 2007) Harley Davidson commercial (unused alternate version) "2007 leaked demos" Madagascar (leaked Mar 29, 2007) (leaked Mar 29, 2007) N/A Chinese Democracy (leaked May 05, 2007) (leaked May 05, 2007) N/A The Blues (leaked May 05, 2007) (leaked May 05, 2007) N/A IRS (leaked May 05, 2007) (leaked May 05, 2007) N/A There Was A Time (leaked May 06, 2007) (leaked May 06, 2007) N/A *MISSING* Rhiad And The Bedouins *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (reported by Classic Rock - unsure if from the same batch as leaks) N/A N/A N/A *MISSING* Prostitute *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (reported by Classic Rock - unsure if from the same batch as leaks) N/A N/A N/A *MISSING* Atlas Shrugged (with Brian May on guitar) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (reported by Classic Rock - unsure if from the same batch as leaks) N/A N/A N/A *MISSING* Silkworms *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (reported by Classic Rock - unsure if from the same batch as leaks) N/A N/A N/A "2008 Antiquiet leaks" Chinese Democracy (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A IRS (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A Madagascar (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A The Blues (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A There Was A Time (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A Rhiad And The Bedouins (as "New Song #1") (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A Prostitute (as "New Song #2") (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A If The World (as "New Song #3") (leaked Jun 18, 2008) (leaked Jun 18, 2008) N/A Shackler's Revenge (as "Chicken Dinner") - not neccessarily from the same "batch" as the others (leaked Aug 14, 2008) (leaked Aug 14, 2008) N/A N/A Chinese Democracy album versions - released November 2008 01 Chinese Democracy N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC 02 Shackler's Revenge N/A N/A Rock Band 2, Chinese Democracy 03 Better N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC 04 Street of Dreams (renamed from The Blues) N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC 05 If The World N/A N/A Body Of Lies (not part of the OST), Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC 06 There Was A Time N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC 07 Catcher In The Rye N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC 08 Scraped (renamed from Lies They Tell) N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC 09 Riad N' The Bedouins (unsure if this has always been the real name, or renamed from Rhiad And The Bedouins) N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC 10 Sorry N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC 11 IRS N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC 12 Madagascar N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC 13 This I Love N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC 14 Prostitute N/A N/A Chinese Democracy, Rock Band 4 DLC *MISSING* Atlas Shrugged (with Bumblefoot on guitar) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (was almost included on the album but didn't fit in the end) N/A N/A N/A "Bumblefoot Barefoot EP sessions" - summer or fall 2008 Better (recorded together with other songs, released on Barefoot EP) (leaked Aug 16, 2013) (leaked Aug 16, 2013) N/A "DJ Ashba tracks" - summer or fall 2009 Better (leaked Aug 16, 2013) (leaked Aug 16, 2013) N/A Ballad of Death (guitar solo) (leaked Dec 09, 2013, excerpt only) (leaked Jun 26, 2018) N/A Mi Amor (guitar solo) (leaked Dec 09, 2013, excerpt only) (leaked Jun 26, 2018) N/A Brain remixes - at least April 2009 to roughly 2010 (at least some of those confirmed to be a collaboration with Melissa Reese) Shackler's Revenge (leaked Dec 09, 2013, excerpt only) (leaked Jun 26, 2018) N/A If The World (leaked Dec 09, 2013, excerpt only) (leaked Jun 26, 2018) N/A Prostitute (leaked as "Blood In The Water") (leaked May 07, 2012) (leaked May 07, 2012) N/A Better (leaked as "Better Gone") - submitted by Brain to Fernando on Christmas 2009 (leaked Jan 2012) (leaked Jan 2012) N/A This I Love (leaked Dec 09, 2013, excerpt only) (leaked Jun 10, 2018) N/A *MISSING* Unknown remix (possibly Sorry) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] (Brain reportedly made 6 remixes but it's not known which was the sixth song) N/A N/A N/A
  2. 53 points
  3. 43 points
  4. 41 points
    I'm just gonna go ahead and state the obvious: Days like today make up for all the shit we put up with as GNR fans.
  5. 40 points
  6. 39 points
    My buddy interviewed Slash earlier today. During the interview Slash confirms that a new GNR record is in the works. He also comments on the rumors that he was at Axl's house recently. Take a listen and discuss https://wrif.com/episodes/talkin-rock-with-slash/
  7. 38 points
    MYGNRFORUM, We greatly apologize for the inconvenience for the down time of late. We know everyone is excited about the recent developments and want to talk about everything that's going on. To give everyone a better picture of what happened and what could still happening, allow me to explain. This forum costs a lot of money to run. Sometimes advertisement dollars and the few people who join up to become Club Members help cover monthly costs. But mostly this forum loses money on a month to month basis. It's generally not more than $20-$30 and hence I don't mind footing the bill to ensure that Guns fans have a small corner of the web we can call our own. However, on occasion, whenever a big development occurs, the forum gets swamped with tens of thousands of new or returning visitors that requires far greater hosting services than what our current hosting plan affords us. Some times, like the 2016 Troubadour shows and the following reunion tours, the increased traffic sustains itself long enough to cover the increased hosting costs. And just to let everyone know, hosting costs for a forum like this one can get expensive very quickly. During the Troubadour shows and for a few months afterward, it cost over $1000 USD a month to host this forum due to the massive influx of visitors. The forum was generating some profits back then and as promised when I purchased the forum back in early 2015, those profits were used to pay for prizes, from concert tickets, books and t-shirts, for members who entered into our contests. The problem arises when news or activity develops and traffic peaks for a short period of time and then quickly drops off to our regular levels. What follows is that our hosting costs jump dramatically for the entire month despite the fact that the increase in the number of simultaneous users peaks for a very short period of time. Our hosting provider works on a two day rolling average, hence if our rolling average hits a certain threshold, our hosting costs jump dramatically. This has resulted in me paying $200-$350 a month out of pocket to keep the forum up and running a few times during the year. Not something I like doing but it doesn't happen too often so I accept it as the cost of keeping the forum going. I've read assumptions that I make money when the forum gets busy. Actually, just the opposite happens. Generally, I lose money when the forum gets busy as the increase in advertising dollars from the increased traffic falls short of the increased costs to host the forum. On Thursday we saw a dramatic increase in traffic, with the number of simultaneous users triple our usual average. If it was any other month I likely would have swallowed the costs and hoped traffic would sustain itself to generate more advertising dollars. But due to personal matters that involve much of my budget tied up for for the next month or so, I can't afford to cover the financial losses for month. I wish the recent developments had occurred any month prior, but everything happened at the worst possible time for me financially. So going forward you might find the forum inaccessible if I find we're likely to exceed our current hosting plan. I do apologize for the inconvenience but at this point I must prioritize the financial well-being of my family over uninterrupted service for the forum. That said, if something major were to occur, such as a new song or new live show that would generate sustained higher traffic, then we would upgrade our hosting service plan and hope advertising revenues offset the increased costs. This forum isn't going anywhere and we'll be here when something major happens. But as I manage a large financial development in my personal life I would appreciate some understanding, cooperation, and patience if the forum is temporarily out of service. Thank you again for your continued support of this forum and I look forward to getting everything back on track as soon as possible! Thanks, Downzy
  8. 35 points
    Okay, we're going to put pause on this conversation for awhile. This thread has become pretty ugly and I think some time off is needed for everyone (including myself). A couple of things... People can believe what they want in the absence of any clear communication or statement by the band or management (Beta's comments notwithstanding). We have made numerous overtures to band management that this issue requires clarification on their part and they have chose to remain quiet publicly (again, save for Beta's comment that I would surmise was not fully informed at the time she made it). They have mentioned a few things "off the record" and I feel obligated to respect that fact despite the total lack of respect shown of late to this forum, its staff, or the online community by management. I can say unequivocally that the LLC used to take down videos last year (spring of 2018) was connected by GNR or GNR management and was co-opted by an individual who I won't name here (but really, we all know who I'm talking about). When this was brought management's attention, the LLC was immediately shut down. Obviously this did not solve the problem as the rate of takedowns grew exponentially using various trade organizations like the RIAA and IFPI. And to provide a little context, when this was brought to management's attention, one of the first questions we got back was "What is the IFPI?" There are working theories on how all of this transpired. Personally I do not subscribe to the notion that the individual in question was given direction by management to take down the videos. But others, including those on our staff, hold different views. What we do know is that an individual used an LLC once owned or controlled by elements of GNR to take down videos. This individual is in communication with the band management via email and perhaps other methods of communication. A member the band's management has publicly defended this individual from the allegations with respect to the recent removal multiple videos on various social media platforms. We also know that the individual responsible for at least some of these take downs have publicly and privately claimed to be working with the support of band management (though, I highly doubt those claims; I've always thought, regardless of what one thinks of band management, it would just seem beyond the imagination that they would authorize this particular low-life to do anything on the band's behalf). We know that other than Beta’s public defence of this individual, the band nor management have not offered much else with respect to clearing up this matter. So I'm going to ask everyone (including myself) to take a few days away from this matter. It's an incredibly frustrating situation that should not be happening. But this is GNR we're talking about. I've learned a long time ago that the best recourse with this band is to take some time off when things don't make sense. There will be other things to cheer or criticize down the road. As destructive as all of this has been in terms of fan relations, it's not worth spending weeks upon weeks yelling at each other over. Temporary (or perhaps permanent) disengagement is really the only therapy that's going to work at this point.
  9. 34 points
    Not Ending In This Lifetime Tour
  10. 34 points
    If Tenderness was the best 11 songs out of 70 he had written, I hope Duff get's zero writing input on any new music.
  11. 33 points
    The rock guys remain completely untouched by the Me Too movement. In part because it was always part of their persona’s in the first place and in part because the insane groupie scene muddied the waters to an crazy extent. Duff climbed into this shit of his own volition because he is the most image hungry guy in the group. Duff’s “persona” is very important to him and his persona is that of a college educated dude who started a wealth management group to help other musicians and spends his time being a good husband, great father, and punk as funk. In reality of course, he has no college degree, his wealth management company never existed or even got off the ground, he’s been married three times and he’s using his wealth and parenting skills to turn his young daughters into Instagram-y Rockstar/models. His punk as fuck aesthetic is simply that, an aesthetic- wearing leather pants in front of his mansion/private jet/yacht. Duff is pretending the 80's never happened but Duff pretends a lot. He's actually kind of sad. He works his ass off for this persona because he is the forgotten member of the Big Three. It’s really more the Big Two and some other guy.
  12. 32 points
  13. 32 points
    With any other band, it might mean "Hey we know the fans are talking about new music. And where's there's smoke, there's fire" meaning that new music is on the way. With GNR, it probably just means that whomever runs their social media just heard that phrase for the first time in their life. Then saw that pic of Slash and used it as a caption.
  14. 32 points
    As long as Izzy doesn't say anything, he can still be the fantasy Izzy that people here make him out to be. What do we know for a fact about Izzy? That he left them before, that he doesn't tour (extensively) and that he doesn't like the circus of a giant GNR world tour. But somehow people are convinced Izzy's not on a huge world tour just for monetary reasons People believe what they want to believe. And Axl saying Izzy's Izzy is twisted in something negative. As for Duff: he's a great guy, he tours, is nice to fans, does charity, releases new music, talks to the press. But no, here, he is the big evil guy they have to shit on 24/7 while Izzy who's gone AWOL for years, is god. Lol. This isn't a knock on Izzy, btw, you don't have to hate Izzy to like Duff/Axl/Slash/whoever. Just like you didn't have to pick either Slash or Axl's side back in the day. You can just like them all.
  15. 31 points
    Reopening this thread that @sofine11made yesterday. We were in contact with Fernando directly today. He was asked 3 times throughout the conversation if the reddit account was his, but he chose not to answer that question during the course of the conversation. So... due his dodging of a direct question (THREE times!) we'll just assume the account is his.
  16. 29 points
    I've created this handy diagram to help everyone understand the full depth of the situation:
  17. 28 points
    A lot of people are insanly busy mixing and matching all the recent (and also older) leaks to the proper source discs. And figuring out which leaks are now redundant. This is what I've been able to piece together from mostly other people's great work. Please feel free to add or correct things if necessary. Fully leaked discs from The Village Sessions: Rough Mixes CD #1 (2000-11-08) - 01 - Madagascar {Drum Adds} (2000-11-05) (5:47) Rough Mixes CD #1 (2000-11-08) - 02 - T.W.A.T. {#10} (2000-10-12) (5:19) Rough Mixes CD #1 (2000-11-08) - 03 - Atlas Shrugged {25} (2000-03-27) (4:20) Rough Mixes CD #1 (2000-11-08) - 04 - Perhaps {19} (2000-03-27) (4:02) Rough Mixes CD #1 (2000-11-08) - 05 - Prostitute {19} (2000-03-27) (6:19) Rough Mixes CD #1 (2000-11-08) - 06 - Rhiad {Ver.1} (2000-11-07) (3:40) Rough Mixes CD #1 (2000-11-08) - 07 - Catcher {30} (2000-03-27) (5:43) Rough Mixes CD #1 (2000-11-08) - 08 - Chinese Democracy {Ver.1} (2000-11-05) (3:22) Rough Mixes CD #1 (2000-11-08) - 09 - The Blues {#6} (2000-10-23) (4:52) Rough Mixes CD #1 (2000-11-08) - 10 - Silkworms {Ver.1} (2000-11-07) (3:42) Rough Mixes CD #2 (2000-11-08) - 01 - P.R.L. (w/out Thyme) (no gtrs.) (2000-11-08) (4:05) Rough Mixes CD #2 (2000-11-08) - 02 - Eye On You (Ver.1) (2000-11-07) (3:46) Rough Mixes CD #2 (2000-11-08) - 03 - If The World (Ver.1) (2000-11-07) (5:16) Rough Mixes CD #2 (2000-11-08) - 04 - Mustache (Ver.1) (2000-11-07) (4:20) Rough Mixes CD #2 (2000-11-08) - 05 - Quicksong (10) (2000-03-27) (4:15) Rough Mixes CD #2 (2000-11-08) - 06 - Zodiac 13 (no vox) (Ver.4) (2000-11-08) (4:46) Rough Mixes CD #2 (2000-11-08) - 07 - Tonto (BLK/FRG dat (#3)) (2000-07-14) (4:09) Rough Mixes CD #2 (2000-11-08) - 08 - Real Doll.com (B. Head cd (#2)) (2000-09-14) (4:15) Rough Mixes CD #2 (2000-11-08) - 09 - Shankler's Revenge (cd (#1)) (2000-09-14) (3:39) Rough Mixes CD #2 (2000-11-08) - 10 - I'm Sorry (B. Head cd (#1)) (2000-10-26) (6:12) Rough Mixes CD #3 (2000-11-08) - 01 - Billionare (BLK/FRG dat (#2)) (2000-10-15) (1:38) Rough Mixes CD #3 (2000-11-08) - 02 - Dub Suplex (BLK/FRG dat (#5)) (2000-10-15) (3:10) Rough Mixes CD #3 (2000-11-08) - 03 - State Of Grace (12) (2000-03-27) (4:09) Rough Mixes CD #3 (2000-11-08) - 04 - Oklahaoma (10) (2000-03-23) (4:20) Rough Mixes CD #3 (2000-11-08) - 05 - Devious Bastard (#6) (2000-10-05) (3:35) Rough Mixes CD #3 (2000-11-08) - 06 - I.R.S. (21) (2000-03-27) (4:23) Rough Mixes CD #3 (2000-11-08) - 07 - Hardschool (12) (NU AX) (2000-11-08) (4:11) Rough Mixes CD #3 (2000-11-08) - 08 - Dummy (#8) (2000-10-05) (6:34) Rough Mixes CD #4 (2000-11-08) - 01 - Me & My Elvis {10} (2000-03-23) (5:48) Rough Mixes CD #4 (2000-11-08) - 02 - Circus Maximus {Ver.1} (2000-11-07) (4:39) Rough Mixes CD #4 (2000-11-08) - 03 - D Tune {11} (2000-03-23) (5:25) Rough Mixes CD #4 (2000-11-08) - 04 - Curly Shuffle {15} (2000-03-23) (3:51) Rough Mixes CD #4 (2000-11-08) - 05 - Nothing {Ver.1} (2000-11-08) (3:55) Rough Mixes CD #4 (2000-11-08) - 06 - As It Began {Ver.1} (2000-11-07) (3:55) Rough Mixes CD #4 (2000-11-08) - 07 - Thyme {P.R.L.} (2000-11-08) (2:04) 085 Robin-Tommy Demos (2001-04-03) - 01 - Inside Out (4:02) 085 Robin-Tommy Demos (2001-04-03) - 02 - 3 Dollar Pyramid (4:29) 085 Robin-Tommy Demos (2001-04-03) - 03 - Tommy Demo #1 (3:45) 085 Robin-Tommy Demos (2001-04-03) - 04 - Tommy Demo #2 (4:28) 160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 01 - Chinese Democracy (Doubled Guitars) (3:30) 160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 02 - Chinese Democracy (Single Guitars) (3:28) 160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 03 - Quick Song (4:08) 160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 04 - Prostitute (Original Drums) (6:12) 160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 05 - Prostitute (Chopped Drums) (6:18) 160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 06 - The Blues (4:46) 160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 07 - Rhiad & The Bediuns (3:43) 160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 08 - T.W.A.T. (5:16) 160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 09 - Atlas Shrugged (4:19) 160 Rough Mixes (2001-06-01) - 10 - Zodiac 13 (4:44) 184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 01 - Madagascar (Drums Up (Version Tom Likes)) (5:47) 184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 02 - Madagascar (Drums up Instrumental) (5:49) 184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 03 - Madagascar (Drums down 3 dB) (5:52) 184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 04 - Madagascar (Drums down 3 Db Instrumental) (5:45) 184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 05 - Madagascar (Old Josh Drums) (5:42) 184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 06 - Madagascar (Original Brain Drums) (5:41) 184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 07 - Chinese Democracy (Old Josh Drums) (3:29) 184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 08 - Chinese Democracy (New Brain Drums) (3:33) 184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 09 - The Blues (Old Josh Drums) (4:49) 184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 10 - The Blues (New Brain Drums) (4:49) 184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 11 - Rhiad (Old Josh Drums) (3:39) 184 New Brain Drums (2001-06-27) - 12 - Rhiad (New Brain Drums) (3:41) 187 Madagascar (Rough Mixes of New Brain Drum Takes) (2001-07-02) - 01 - With Vocals (5:50) 187 Madagascar (Rough Mixes of New Brain Drum Takes) (2001-07-02) - 02 - Instrumental (5:47) 190 Rhiad (New Brain Drum Take) (2001-07-11) - 01 - Rhiad (Original Rough Mix) (3:46) 190 Rhiad (New Brain Drum Take) (2001-07-11) - 02 - Rhiad (Final Rough Mix with Compression (Vocals at Regular Level)) (3:49) 190 Rhiad (New Brain Drum Take) (2001-07-11) - 03 - Rhiad (Final Rough Mix with Compression (Vocals Up)) (3:47) 190 Rhiad (New Brain Drum Take) (2001-07-11) - 04 - Rhiad (Final Rough Mix with No Compression (Vocals at Regular Level)) (3:55) 190 Rhiad (New Brain Drum Take) (2001-07-11) - 05 - Rhiad (Final Rough Mix with No Compression (Vocals Up)) (3:45) 196 The Blues (New Brain Drum Takes) (2001-07-13) - 01 - The Blues (Vocal at Regular Level) (4:51) 196 The Blues (New Brain Drum Takes) (2001-07-13) - 02 - The Blues (Vocal Down 1 Db) (4:50) 196 The Blues (New Brain Drum Takes) (2001-07-13) - 03 - The Blues (Instrumental) (5:02) 201 Rough Mixes (New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl) (2001-07-19) - 01 - Rhiad (3:48) 201 Rough Mixes (New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl) (2001-07-19) - 02 - Rhiad (Eq'd Toms) (3:49) 201 Rough Mixes (New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl) (2001-07-19) - 03 - Prostitute (6:20) 201 Rough Mixes (New Brain Drum Remixes with Axl) (2001-07-19) - 04 - The Blues (4:49) 208 T.W.A.T. (Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums) (2001-08-06) - 01 - T.W.A.T. (Less Ambience on Drums) (5:21) 208 T.W.A.T. (Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums) (2001-08-06) - 02 - T.W.A.T. (More Ambience on Drums) (5:19) 208 T.W.A.T. (Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums) (2001-08-06) - 03 - T.W.A.T. (Snare Compressed Only) (5:17) 208 T.W.A.T. (Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums) (2001-08-06) - 04 - T.W.A.T. (Strings Up) (5:22) 208 T.W.A.T. (Rough Mixes of New Brain Drums) (2001-08-06) - 05 - T.W.A.T. (Old Beaven Mix) (5:19) 219 Atlas Shrugged (New Brain Drums) (2001-08-20) - 01 - Atlas Shrugged (Drums at regular level) (4:23) 219 Atlas Shrugged (New Brain Drums) (2001-08-20) - 02 - Atlas Shrugged (Drums down 1.5 Db) (4:29) 219 Atlas Shrugged (New Brain Drums) (2001-08-20) - 03 - Atlas Shrugged (Drums up 1.5 Db) (4:16) 229 T.W.A.T. (Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms) (2001-08-27) - 01 - T.W.A.T. (Ambience Down, Mono Room Off) (5:16) 229 T.W.A.T. (Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms) (2001-08-27) - 02 - T.W.A.T. (Ambience down with Mono Room) (5:16) 229 T.W.A.T. (Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms) (2001-08-27) - 03 - T.W.A.T. (Ambience at Original Level) (5:18) 229 T.W.A.T. (Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms) (2001-08-27) - 04 - T.W.A.T. (Snare Sample during Outro Only) (5:16) 229 T.W.A.T. (Brain Drum Remix With Snare Sample From Silkworms) (2001-08-27) - 05 - T.W.A.T. (First Half with Old Snare, Second Half with Snare Sample Only) (5:13) 238 Chinese Democracy (New Brain Drums - 3rd Time) (2001-09-06) - 01 - Chinese Democracy (Drums and Guitars at Regular Level) (3:23) 238 Chinese Democracy (New Brain Drums - 3rd Time) (2001-09-06) - 02 - Chinese Democracy (Drums up 1 dB) (3:24) 238 Chinese Democracy (New Brain Drums - 3rd Time) (2001-09-06) - 03 - Chinese Democracy (Drums up 2 dB) (3:23) 238 Chinese Democracy (New Brain Drums - 3rd Time) (2001-09-06) - 04 - Chinese Democracy (Guitars up 2.5 dB, Drums at Regular Level) (3:23) 238 Chinese Democracy (New Brain Drums - 3rd Time) (2001-09-06) - 05 - Chinese Democracy (Guitars up 1.5 dB) (3:23) 238 Chinese Democracy (New Brain Drums - 3rd Time) (2001-09-06) - 06 - Chinese Democracy (Guitars up 0.7 dB) (3:29) 238 Chinese Democracy (New Brain Drums - 3rd Time) (2001-09-06) - 07 - Chinese Democracy (Instrumental with Drums and Guitars at Regular Lev (3:31) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 01 - Quick Song (Full Take Without Vocal) (3:59) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 02 - Quick Song (Full Take with Vocal) (3:59) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 03 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 0) (1:06) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 04 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 1) (1:07) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 05 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 2) (1:09) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 06 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 3) (1:07) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 07 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 4) (1:09) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 08 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 5) (1:07) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 09 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 6) (1:09) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 10 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 7) (1:07) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 11 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 8) (1:08) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 12 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 9) (1:09) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 13 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 10) (1:09) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 14 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 11) (1:09) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 15 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 12) (1:07) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 16 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 13) (1:10) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 17 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 14) (1:08) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 18 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 15) (1:08) 250 Quick Song (2001-09-29) - 19 - Quick Song (Starting From Robins Solo... Take 16) (1:09) 252 Knockin-Jungle (2001-09-29) - 01 - Knockin' on Heaven's Door (Acoustic Version) (Axl Take 3) (6:26) 252 Knockin-Jungle (2001-09-29) - 02 - Warmup... (1:34) 252 Knockin-Jungle (2001-09-29) - 03 - Knockin' on Heaven's Door (Electric Version) (6:08) 252 Knockin-Jungle (2001-09-29) - 04 - Welcome to the Jungle (4:59) 252 Knockin-Jungle (2001-09-29) - 05 - Knockin' on Heaven's Door (Acoustic Version) (Take 3 from 10.8.01) (6:07) 277 New Songs (Straight Analog Downloads - These Are Not Mixes) (2001-11-13) - 01 - Prom Violence (Take 2) (2:54) 277 New Songs (Straight Analog Downloads - These Are Not Mixes) (2001-11-13) - 02 - Prom Violence (Take 3) (2:55) 277 New Songs (Straight Analog Downloads - These Are Not Mixes) (2001-11-13) - 03 - Three Dollar Pyramid (Take 2) (4:23) 277 New Songs (Straight Analog Downloads - These Are Not Mixes) (2001-11-13) - 04 - Three Dollar Pyramid (Take 4) (4:32) 278 The Rebel (Straight Analog Download - This is Not a Mix) (2001-11-15) - 01 - The Rebel (Take 1) (3:05) Leaks that have become redundant: As It Began (2000-11-07 demo, 2019-09-15 leak) - Replaced by Rough Mixes 4 (19:26) Atlas Shrugged (2019-09-05 leak) - Replaced by 219 Atlas Shrugged (New Brain Drums) (2001-08-20) - 01 (4:23) Atlas Shrugged (Drums up 1.5 Db, 2019-09-05 leak) - Replaced by 219 Atlas Shrugged (New Brain Drums) (2001-08-20) - 02 (4:16) Catcher In The Rye (2000-03-27 demo, 2019-08-28 leak) - Replaced by Rough Mixes 1 (5:33) Chinese Democracy (2019-08-28 leak as Chinese Josh) - Replaced by Chinese Democracy Old Josh Drums (New Brain Drums) (3:11) Chinese Democracy (2019-08-28 leak as Chinese Stew) - Replaced by 238 track 06 Guitars up 0.7 dB (3:29) Eye On You (2019-09-20 leak) - Replaced by 2019-09-22 leak (3:36) Eye On You (VER.1) (2000-11-07) (2019-09-22 leak) - Replaced by Rough Mixes 2 (3:46) Going Down (2019-08-28 leak) - Replaced by 085 Robin-Tommy Demos (2001-04-03) - 04 (4:25) Hardschool (2000-11-08 demo, 2019-08-28 leak as Jackie Chan) - Replaced by Rough Mixes 3 (3:56) Hardschool (2019-08-24 leak after 2019-07-26 excerpt, same version as the 2006-05-27 DJ Razz snippet) - Replaced by 2019-08-28 leak (4:05) I.R.S. (2000-03-27 demo, 2019-08-28 leak) - Replaced by Rough Mixes 3 (4:12) Knockin' On Heavens Door (acoustic, 2019-09-14 leak as rayraysdoor, 252 Knockin-Jungle track 1) - 252 Knockin-Jungle (2001-09-29) - 01 (5:41) Madagascar (2017-11-12 leak) - Replaced by Rough Mixes 1 (5:46) Me & My Elvis (2000-03-23 demo, 2019-09-22 leak) - Replaced by Rough Mixes 4 (5:48) Me & My Elvis (2019-09-21 leak) - Replaced by 2019-09-22 leak (5:48) P.R.L. w/out Thyme (no gtrs.) (2000-11-08) (2019-10-03 leak) - Replaced by Rough Mixes 2 (4:05) Perhaps (2000-03-27 demo, 2019-09-13 leak - Replaced by Rough Mixes 1 (3:51) Prostitute (2000-03-27 demo, 2019-08-28 leak as Prostitute v2) - Replaced by Rough Mixes 1 (6:17) Prostitute (2019-08-28 leak as Prostitute v3) - Replaced by 201 - 03 - Prostitute (6:05) Rhiad And The Bedouins (2019-08-28 leak as Rhiad Josh) - Replaced with Rhiad old josh drums from new brain drums (3:33) Silkworms (2000-11-07 demo, 2019-09-07 leak as Isn't That Absurd) - Replaced by Rough Mixes 1 (3:31) State Of Grace (2000-03-27 demo, Mix 2, 2019-09-13 leak) - Replaced by Rough Mixes 3 (3:59) The Blues (2018-06-10 leak) - Replaced by Rough Mixes 1 (4:44) The Blues (2019-08-28 leak) - Replaced by 184 New Brain Drums track 09 (old Josh drums) (4:42) There Was A Time (2018-06-10 leak) - Replaced by Rough Mixes 1 (5:25) There Was A Time (2019-08-28 leak) - Identical to There Was A Time (2018-06-10 leak) and both sourced from Rough Mixes 1 (5:06) Three Dollar Pyramid (2019-09-15 leak) - Replaced by Three Dollar Pyramid Take 2 (New Songs Disc) (21:02) Other Chinese Democracy-era material that isn't from The Village Sessions: 01 - Sweet Child O' Mine (1999 release from the movie Big Daddy) (4:41) 02 - Oh My God (1999 release from the soundtrack for End Of Days) (3:40) 03 - Catcher In The Rye (1999-2000 demo, 2006-02-28 darknemus leak) (5:37) 04 - I.R.S. (1999-2000 demo, 2006-05-27 DJ Razz leak) (4:07) 05 - There Was A Time (1999-2000 demo, 2006-05-27 DJ Razz leak) (5:01) 06 - Boston 2002 promo (with studio cuts of Chinese Democracy, Madagascar and The Blues) (1:06) 07 - I.R.S. (2003-08-30 Piazza-Trunk recording, 2005-04-10 darknemus leak) (3:39) 08 - I.R.S. (2001-2003 demo, 2006-02-15 darknemus leak, same version as the 2003-08-30 Piazza-Trunk recording) (4:16) 09 - There Was A Time (2001-2003 demo, short version, 2006-02-17 leak) (6:01) 10 - There Was A Time (2001-2003 demo, long version, 2006-02-17 leak) (6:43) 11 - Better (2001-2003 demo, 2006-02-22 darknemus leak) (4:56) 12 - I.R.S. (2001-2003 demo, instrumental, 2006-03-10 leak) (4:13) 13 - There Was A Time (2001-2003 demo, instrumental short version, 2006-03-15 leak) (5:58) 14 - There Was A Time (2001-2003 demo, instrumental long version, 2006-03-14 leak) (6:42) 15 - Better (2001-2003 demo, instrumental demo, 2006-03-08 leak) (5:00) 16 - Going Down (2006 Bumblefoot guitar over older demo, 2013-08-16 leak) (4:28) 17 - Oh My God (2006 Bumblefoot guitar over older demo, 2018-06-07 leak after 2013-12-09 excerpt) (3:40) 18 - Silkworms (2006 Bumblefoot guitar over older demo, 2018-06-08 leak after 2013-12-09 excerpt) (3:25) 19 - Better (2006-2007 demo, 2007-02-20 leak, possibly the same as in Harley-Davidson broadcast 2006-10-20) (5:10) 20 - Madagascar (2006-2007 demo, 2007-03-29 darknemus leak) (5:41) 21 - Chinese Democracy (2006-2007 demo, 2007-05-05 MSL leak) (4:46) 22 - The Blues (2006-2007 demo, 2007-05-05 MSL leak) (4:47) 23 - I.R.S. (2006-2007 demo, 2007-05-05 MSL leak) (4:36) 24 - There Was A Time (2006-2007 demo, 2007-05-06 MSL leak) (6:46) 25 - Better (2008-06-18 Antiquiet leak) (5:12) 26 - Chinese Democracy (2008-06-18 Antiquiet leak) (5:00) 27 - I.R.S. (2008-06-18 Antiquiet leak) (4:41) 28 - Madagascar (2008-06-18 Antiquiet leak) (5:52) 29 - The Blues (2008-06-18 Antiquiet leak) (4:53) 30 - There Was A Time (2008-06-18 Antiquiet leak) (6:50) 31 - Rhiad And The Bedouins (2008-06-18 Antiquiet leak as New Song #1) (3:46) 32 - Prostitute (2008-06-18 Antiquiet leak as New Song #2) (6:24) 33 - If The World (2008-06-18 Antiquiet leak as New Song #3) (4:59) 34 - Shackler's Revenge (2008-08-14 MSL leak as Chicken Dinner) (3:34) 35 - Better (2013-08-16 leak, Bumblefoot acoustic version from Barefoot sessions 2008) (5:05) 36 - Better (2013-08-16 leak, DJ Ashba version from 2009) (5:46) 37 - Ballad Of Death (2018-06-26 leak after 2013-12-09 excerpt, DJ Ashba solo from 2009) (3:31) 38 - Mi Amor (2018-06-26 leak after 2013-12-09 excerpt, DJ Ashba solo from 2009) (4:31) 39 - Shackler's Revenge (2009-2010 Brain Remix, 2018-06-26 leak after 2013-12-09 excerpt) (4:08) 40 - If The World (2009-2010 Brain Remix, 2018-06-26 leak after 2013-12-09 excerpt) (4:06) 41 - Blood in the Water (2009-2010 Brain Remix, 2012-05-07 leak) (4:02) 42 - Better Gone (2009-2010 Brain Remix, 2012-01-xx leak) (4:19) 43 - This I Love (2009-2010 Brain Remix, 2018-06-10 leak after 2013-12-09 excerpt) (5:22) 44 - Silkworms + The General (2018-06-26 leak, cellphone clip from aftershow party at Vienna 2010-09-18, Mindray11 recording) (3:04) Last updated on: 2019-10-08 11:34 GMT+1
  18. 28 points
  19. 28 points
    Slash was on Trunk a couple hours ago on SiriusXM. Slash: "We're just doing this one run in the states and a couple dates in Mexico end of this month into November. That's it for Guns for now, and I think we have something coming up in March as far as touring is concerned. But then, obviously, everybody knows that we're working on new material, which is really exciting, and so, that's really primarily what the focus is. There's nothing in the Terminator movie, by the way." Trunk: "Duff has been out with his own record ... Where are you at with Guns N' Roses new music? Are you all working individually? Has everybody gotten together? A song, an album?" Slash: "I have nothing to tell you information-wise other than no, it's not that. Everybody has been sort of like, when we're in town, working on it. Then when we're out of town, obviously not." Trunk: "Would you like to do a full Guns N' Roses album?" (as opposed to a single or EP) Slash: "Everybody wants to have a full album released. I don't think that's really changed all that much. There's a different way of putting stuff out initially nowadays more so than ... you sort of look at that preliminary release a little differently now. At the end of the day, we will ultimately release a full album." Trunk: "On Guns N' Roses with the live shows coming up, I know you didn't start rehearsals yet, but is it basically gonna be more or less the same sort of set and what you guys have done in the past, or for these shows, are you working up some different things?" Slash: "There's a couple different things that we're talking about doing, that are sort of in the works to do. That we're planning on doing. So, I'll just leave it at that." Trunk, after the interview, about the news that a new GNR tune won't be in Terminator: "I'll give a little asteriks on that. About a week before it was announced that Slash was back in Guns N' Roses, true story, he called me. Not texted. He called me privately. 'I don't know anything about this Guns N' Roses stuff that's going on.'" (Trunk laughs) "So take that into the equation ... he threw up some serious smoke and mirrors on me at the time ... then a week later, the Not in this Lifetime tour was announced ... He's done that misdirection shit to me once or twice before."
  20. 28 points
    You know how GNR could stop leaks? Go ahead and release music that your fans will happily pay for.
  21. 28 points
    Dizzy is great! I love watching her bounce around with her blue hair.
  22. 27 points
    Anyone who was talking bad about the crowd in this thread obviously wasn’t there. The crowd was massive, and LOUD, and the people in the front had been waiting 4+ hours in A TROPICAL STORM to see Guns. I truly think people don’t realize that last night after GNR came off stage, through the night, we got hit with so much rain and wind that I haven’t had power at my house since 4:30 this morning. This show could have not even happened, but it did! i personally was about 2 rows back, right under Axl. As I’ve already mentioned, there was some sort of magic, or aura in the air last night. Im not sure if it was the fact that it had been raining ALL day, but as soon as GNR came on, it just all of a sudden stopped and cleared up, or something else just clicked. Axl was having so much fun running from side to side on the stage. He sounded and looked SO happy and was smiling and waving to the crowd. The little pocket of people around me was singing And dancing and jumping to every word to every song. When they ripped into Dead Horse we all went crazy and started clapping and encouraging Axl to go for it! We were singing the lyrics super loud and he was dancing and feeling it and Slash was smiling. I wish there was a video, you can kinda see it in Meegans but they look looser, more comfortable. I’d like to mention that there was no ego thrust in the middle of the stage, so Axl and Duff spent a LOT of time standing and interacting with each other directly in the middle of the stage. Some highlights- 1. The absolute POP during Welcome To The Jungle. You can see and hear it in Meegans live video. 2. During DTJ, Axl backed off on the intro and kinda lost the intro and Slash accounted for this and played an awesome little flurish to which Axl came running out into singing Double Talking Jive. It was awesome. 3. This crowd was bonkers. During Rocket Queen, some woman under the influence of some type of drug made her way all the way from the back of the crowd pushing towards the front. She made it to the rail and pushed everyone off of the rail. Security had to literally pick her up out of the crowd and take her away. Fortus was watching it as it happened, but I think word made its way around stage because before YCBM, Axl said something along the lines of “we are getting a little rambunctious out there. Why don’t we try to calm things down with this soothing music” 4. Shadow Of Your Love is so good!! I have some very high def video of Axl absolutely killing this song. My new favorite. 5. Civil War > Dead Horse > Coma. come on!!! How can you complain about the setlist when it’s like that right now!!! I think I peaked during this. I was waiting for Locomotive to make an appearance and it looks like it was scratched from the setlist? Im glad we got Dead Horse though. I think this was the show they wanted to make it their bitch, and wouldn’t be surprised if its dropped after this and only added at the last show. 6. Here is my stance on the covers argument: I agree, some of these songs maybe should have been dropped by now. But for whatever reason they keep playing them. But if this is what we get, so be it. The covers in the encore maybe were overkill, yes. BUT, apparently Axl said Seeker was an Audible and that they “called a quick team meeting and we are going to play another song.” So we could have left with 24 songs instead of the 25 we got, and that means you can tell they were having fun and wanted to stay a little longer. 7. As for the sound/timing/band issues, I honestly think this is Guns N’ Roses in its final form. This band is just SO good. So fucking good. Everyone around me was into it the whole 3 hours. Not many acts can do that these days, trust me. I think this show will go down as one of those secret gems that people who were there will remember forever. Axl sounded great. The whole band was having fun. Theres not much more you could ask for. There may never be a bootleg or full videos from this show thanks to the rain, but that is what makes it great. Those who were there know! To address the Axl being angry incident, Axl chucked his regular mic into the crowd as the band left the stage after Paradise. When they came back on stage after to do the bow, there was no 2nd mic. Axl was looking around like a mad man for a mic and he finally found one and it wasn’t turned up so he threw the mike towards stage left and then walked up to the front with the rest of the band, bowed 2 times, then took his hat off and threw it stage left as well. Seems like it was just a situation of trying to get a mic in a small amount of time and he couldn't. oh, and uh. I have a friend who was backstage and sent me a picture of the unedited setlist with the alts on the bottom. As of last nignt, Hard School is still on the alt’s setlist backstage and not presented to the public on social media. I think we can stop considering it a troll at this point. i’ll post some photos and videos when I can figure out how to
  23. 27 points
    Girlfriend thinks I'm spending to much time on my phone and wants to know "who is she"
  24. 26 points
    *Posted in main section with permission from RussTCB* Hi fellow GN’R fans, I’m a longtime MyGNR member, mostly lurker, and have been a member of the other forums since their inception. Back when I was a kid, I used to be a part of the AOL message board community. Perhaps some of you were as well. Anyhoo, I’m a lifelong musician/songwriter and also work as an attorney in California. A couple of years ago, I had a pretty serious health scare involving six months or so of some pretty intense hospital treatment. I’m alright now, but it definitely made me re-evaluate my life and my priorities. As a result, and with the help of coming into a finite amount of money that I wasn’t expecting, I decided to quit my law job for all of 2018 to live off my savings and get my entire catalog of music recorded that I’d written throughout my adult life and never really had the chance to pursue properly due to always working and/or being in school. It’s multiple albums’ worth of material, and the first batch is being released today. I also recorded several tribute covers to the bands who inspired me the most as a musician. Guns N’ Roses are obviously very high on that list. I chose to cover “Locomotive” in part to show how much I love the band, and also because I’ve long considered it to be the great white whale fan favorite that perhaps never got its due. I of course had no idea they’d start playing it live again a few weeks back. In fact, I heard my final mastered version for the first time at the exact moment they played it for the first time in Kansas. I got my completed mastered album delivered to me that weekend, listened to it for the first time that Monday night, logged onto the internets right after, and lo and behold, they played it! You just can’t make this stuff up. I wanted to share this with you guys since this is the place I’ve gone for a decade or longer at this point to hear from GN’R fans who are just as passionate about the band as I am. Whether it was posting a dingy garage-recorded cover of “Pretty Tied Up” in 2007, the Axl chats in 2008, or being at opening night of NITL in Vegas and posting a review, I have a lot of fond memories of this place. The album and these tributes were recorded without any sort of expectation of money or fame or anything like that. My music is just that important to me, and getting it done really turned out to be good for my well-being. I’ve never been happier. It’s safe to say that life’s a lot easier to go through without a head full of unfinished business. With that, I hope you guys get a kick out of this! Cheers. Youtube: Spotify (Entire album + GN’R & Pantera tributes): (Search for artist Marla Hooch) The album can be found at most other streaming sites including iTunes under Marla Hooch. And for all you downloading motherfuckers, album can be downloaded here: https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/marlahooch
  25. 26 points
    "I'm Not Sure That's The Best Way To Handle The Situation" Yet another great title for a book about the history of GNR.
  26. 26 points
  27. 26 points
    Que Brazilians standing outside Axl house this weekend trying to get the faintest recording.
  28. 26 points
    I think it's cringeworthy , personally.
  29. 25 points
    Slash is the best guitarist for Guns, Buckethead is the best guitarist overall.
  30. 25 points
    Why? Don't you think it's personal? It only concerns Steven and his family and friends. No one else. His family told someone he's totally fine. So they obviously don't want to make a big thing about this. Why should GNR make any reference to it? The only thing that matters is Steven will be fine. Anything else is really none of our business at all. This is exactly what's wrong with all that social media shit. People think they're entitled to know everything. The family said he's fine. What more do you want? Even if it wasn't an accident, it's not our business. I don't get how some of you think at all.
  31. 24 points
    I made this overview of when songs debuted live and when they were last played live in both the old and new era. Then added how often they were played. This is all based on setlists.fm and updated until 2 November 2019. I'm not entirely sure about You're Crazy AFD version vs Lies version. So the numbers on the AFD one are a total of both. The dates are semi-accurate. Song Original live debut Original last played Times played original Post-2000 live debut Post-2000 last played Times played post-2000 Times played total Appetite For Destruction Welcome to the Jungle ^ 20-Jul-1985 17-Jul-1993 400 1-Jan-2001 2-Nov-2019 526 926 It's So Easy ^ 23-Oct-1986 16-Jul-1993 296 1-Jan-2001 2-Nov-2019 520 816 Nightrain ^ 20-Dec-1985 17-Jul-1993 212 1-Jan-2001 2-Nov-2019 520 732 Out ta Get Me ^ 26-Jan-1986 17-Sep-1992 187 1-Jan-2001 29-Nov-2017 181 368 Mr. Brownstone ^ 11-Mar-1986 17-Jul-1993 365 1-Jan-2001 2-Nov-2019 519 884 Paradise City ^ 10-Oct-1985 17-Jul-1993 340 1-Jan-2001 2-Nov-2019 522 862 My Michelle ^ 4-Jan-1986 30-Mar-1993 172 1-Jan-2001 29-Nov-2017 195 367 Think About You ^ 26-Mar-1985 10-May-1987 50 1-Jan-2001 20-Dec-2006 49 99 Sweet Child o' Mine ^ 11-Mar-1986 17-Jul-1993 321 1-Jan-2001 2-Nov-2019 526 847 You're Crazy ^ 3-May-1986 3-Aug-1991 163 2-Nov-2006 12-Apr-2014 26 189 Anything Goes *^ 26-Mar-1985 1-Aug-1988 67 n.a. n.a. 0 67 Rocket Queen ^ 20-Sep-1985 29-Jul-1992 153 1-Jan-2001 2-Nov-2019 448 601 GnR Lies Reckless Life *^ 11-May-1985 15-Apr-1993 35 n.a. n.a. 0 35 Nice Boys *^ 11-May-1985 26-Jun-1993 45 23-Jun-2007 11-Feb-2017 24 69 Move to the City ^ 26-Mar-1985 7-Sep-1992 145 n.a. n.a. 0 145 Mama Kin ^ 28-Jun-1985 6-Jun-1992 80 12-Mar-2012 12-Mar-2012 1 81 Patience 30-Oct-1987 17-Jul-1993 250 1-Jan-2001 2-Nov-2019 409 659 Used to Love Her 30-Oct-1987 17-Jul-1993 110 19-May-2006 8-Dec-2018 180 290 You're Crazy 10-Feb-1988 17-Jul-1993 19-May-2006 One in a Million 30-Oct-1987 31-Jan-1988 2 n.a. n.a. 0 2 Use Your Illusion I Right Next Door to Hell 11-May-1991 3-Aug-1991 12 n.a. n.a. 0 12 Dust N' Bones 9-May-1991 7-Jan-1992 46 n.a. n.a. 0 46 Live and Let Die 9-May-1991 17-Jul-1993 186 1-Jan-2001 2-Nov-2019 515 701 Don't Cry (Original) *^ 26-Mar-1985 16-Jul-1993 146 14-Jul-2007 1-Nov-2019 301 447 Perfect Crime ^ 31-Oct-1986 8-Aug-1992 44 n.a. n.a. 0 44 You Ain't the First 11-May-1991 17-Jul-1993 59 n.a. n.a. 0 59 Bad Obsession 9-May-1991 6-Feb-1993 126 n.a. n.a. 0 126 Back Off Bitch *^ 11-May-1985 7-Jun-1991 36 n.a. n.a. 0 36 Double Talkin' Jive 20-Jan-1991 17-Jul-1993 189 1-Apr-2016 2-Nov-2019 175 364 November Rain 29-May-1991 17-Jul-1993 182 1-Jan-2001 2-Nov-2019 514 696 The Garden 23-Feb-1993 27-Apr-1993 27 n.a. n.a. 0 27 Garden of Eden 23-Feb-1993 25-Feb-1993 2 n.a. n.a. 0 2 Don't Damn Me n.a. n.a. 0 n.a. n.a. 0 0 Bad Apples 23-Jan-1991 11-May-1991 2 n.a. n.a. 0 2 Dead Horse 20-Jan-1991 17-Jul-1993 52 23-Oct-2019 2-Nov-2019 5 57 Coma 4-Jun-1991 10-Apr-1993 5 8-Apr-2016 2-Nov-2019 165 170 Use Your Illusion II Civil War 7-Apr-1990 6-Feb-1993 138 4-Dec-2011 2-Nov-2019 267 405 14 Years 11-May-1991 31-Aug-1991 30 31-May-2012 24-Nov-2012 6 36 Yesterdays 14-Jan-1988 17-Jul-1993 33 4-Jun-2014 1-Oct-2019 97 130 Knockin' on Heaven's Door ^ 19-Jun-1986 17-Jul-1993 423 1-Jan-2001 2-Nov-2019 422 845 Get in the Ring n.a. n.a. 0 n.a. n.a. 0 0 Shotgun Blues n.a. n.a. 0 n.a. n.a. 0 0 Breakdown 6-Dec-1991 13-Dec-1991 2 n.a. n.a. 0 2 Pretty Tied Up (The Perils of Rock n' Roll Decadence) 20-Jan-1991 6-Apr-1992 31 n.a. n.a. 0 31 Locomotive (Complicity) 17-Jul-1991 20-Feb-1992 6 7-Oct-2019 23-Oct-2019 3 9 So Fine 5-Dec-1991 16-Jun-1993 45 n.a. n.a. 0 45 Estranged 20-Jan-1991 5-Jul-1993 85 2-Oct-2011 2-Nov-2019 324 409 You Could Be Mine 20-Jan-1991 17-Jul-1993 269 1-Jan-2001 2-Nov-2019 414 683 Don't Cry (Alt. Lyrics) 2-Aug-1991 20-May-1992 2 n.a. n.a. 0 2 My World n.a. n.a. 0 n.a. n.a. 0 0 The Spaghetti Incident Since I Don't Have You n.a. n.a. 0 n.a. n.a. 0 0 New Rose n.a. n.a. 0 1-Apr-2016 9-Jul-2018 24 65 Down on the Farm 7-Apr-1990 7-Apr-1990 1 3-Nov-2006 20-Dec-2006 10 11 Human Being n.a. n.a. 0 n.a. n.a. 0 0 Raw Power n.a. n.a. 0 6-Apr-2014 19-Aug-2016 13 13 Ain't It Fun n.a. n.a. 0 n.a. n.a. 0 0 Buick Makane (Big Dumb Sex) n.a. n.a. 0 n.a. n.a. 0 0 Hair of the Dog * 23-May-1988 9-Nov-1990 3 n.a. n.a. 0 3 Attitude 17-Jul-1991 17-Jul-1993 135 6-Apr-2014 2-Nov-2019 109 244 Black Leather n.a. n.a. 0 n.a. n.a. 0 0 You Can't Put Your Arms Around a Memory n.a. n.a. 0 n.a. n.a. 0 0 I Don't Care About You n.a. n.a. 0 n.a. n.a. 0 0 Look at Your Game, Girl n.a. n.a. 0 n.a. n.a. 0 0 Chinese Democracy Chinese Democracy n.a. n.a. n.a. 1-Jan-2001 2-Nov-2019 461 461 Shackler's Revenge n.a. n.a. n.a. 11-Dec-2009 9-Apr-2014 106 106 Better n.a. n.a. n.a. 12-May-2006 2-Nov-2019 478 478 Street of Dreams n.a. n.a. n.a. 1-Jan-2001 18-Dec-2012 301 301 If the World n.a. n.a. n.a. 11-Dec-2009 7-Apr-2010 28 28 There Was a Time n.a. n.a. n.a. 12-May-2006 29-Nov-2017 25 25 Catcher in the Rye n.a. n.a. n.a. 16-Dec-2009 20-Nov-2017 74 74 Scraped n.a. n.a. n.a. 16-Dec-2009 25-Nov-2011 12 12 Riad N' the Bedouins n.a. n.a. n.a. 1-Jan-2001 21-Nov-2002 6 6 Sorry n.a. n.a. n.a. 13-Dec-2009 21-Jun-2018 195 195 I.R.S. n.a. n.a. n.a. 12-May-2006 23-Oct-2010 98 98 Madagascar n.a. n.a. n.a. 15-Jan-2001 2-Nov-2019 280 280 This I Love n.a. n.a. n.a. 11-Dec-2009 14-Nov-2018 366 366 Prostitute n.a. n.a. n.a. 15-Dec-2009 29-Nov-2017 19 19 Other GnR releases Sympathy For The Devil (Rolling Stones cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. n.a. n.a. 0 0 It's Alright (Black Sabbath cover) 16-May-1992 6-Feb-1993 44 n.a. n.a. 0 44 Oh My God n.a. n.a. n.a. 1-Jan-2001 31-Dec-2001 4 4 Motivation (Tommy Stinson cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 16-Dec-2011 15-Jul-2013 78 78 Objectify (Bumblefoot cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 14-Nov-2012 15-Jul-2013 27 27 The Seeker (The Who cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 7-Nov-2012 2-Nov-2019 215 215 Shadow Of Your Love *^ 26-Mar-1985 22-Jun-1987 29 12-Jun-2018 2-Nov-2019 40 69 Heartbreak Hotel (Elvis Presley cover) ^ 26-Mar-1985 31-Jul-1986 33 15-Feb-2012 15-Feb-2012 1 34 Jumpin' Jack Flash (Rolling Stones cover) ^ 26-Mar-1985 23-Aug-1986 32 n.a. n.a. 0 32 Whole Lotta Rosie (AC/DC cover) ^ 22-Nov-1985 21-Jan-1988 10 16-Dec-2009 9-Jul-2018 144 154 Ain't Goin' Down ^ 23-Aug-1986 23-Aug-1986 1 n.a. n.a. 0 1 Unreleased GnR songs Goodnight Tonight ^ 18-Jan-1986 18-Jan-1986 1 n.a. n.a. 0 1 Sentimental Movie 14-Jan-1988 14-Jan-1988 1 n.a. n.a. 0 1 Cornshucker 31-Jan-1988 31-Jan-1988 1 n.a. n.a. 0 1 It Tastes Good, Don't It? 1-Jun-1988 27-Jul-1988 5 n.a. n.a. 0 5 Silkworms n.a. n.a. n.a. 1-Jan-2001 31-Dec-2001 4 4 Live covers Speak Softly Love (The Godfather Theme) (Nino Rota cover) 20-Jan-1991 16-Jul-1993 133 1-Apr-2016 29-Oct-2019 160 293 Dust in the Wind (Todd Rundgren cover) 13-Jul-1991 13-Jul-1991 1 n.a. n.a. 0 1 Train Kept A Rollin (Aerosmith cover) 6-Jul-1992 6-Jul-1992 1 n.a. n.a. 0 1 Always On The Run (Lenny Kravitz cover) 6-Jul-1992 6-Jul-1992 1 n.a. n.a. 0 1 Dead Flowers (Rolling Stones cover) 26-May-1993 17-Jul-1993 17 12-Mar-2012 23-Nov-2012 12 29 You Gotta Move (Mississippi Fred McDowell cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 14-Jul-2006 30-Jul-2006 5 5 Back In The U.S.S.R. (Beatles cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 29-Jul-2006 29-Jul-2006 1 1 Sway (Rolling Stones cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 29-Jul-2006 30-Jul-2006 2 2 Sailing (Sutherland Brothers cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 29-Jul-2006 30-Jul-2006 2 2 Liquor & Whores (Bubbles & the Shit Rockers cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 20-Nov-2006 27-Dec-2011 16 16 My Generation (The Who cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 11-Dec-2009 20-Nov-2011 19 19 Riff Raff (AC/DC cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 5-Oct-2011 12-Jul-2018 47 47 Don't Let It Bring You Down (Neil Young cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 21-Oct-2012 15-Jul-2013 19 19 Glad To Be Here (Bumblefoot cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 14-Nov-2012 17-Mar-2013 40 40 Abnormal (Bumblefoot cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 20-Mar-2014 7-Jun-2014 23 23 Wish You Were Here (Pink Floyd cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 8-Apr-2016 1-Oct-2019 162 162 Black Hole Sun (Soundgarden cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 27-May-2017 1-Nov-2019 99 99 I Got You (I Feel Good) (James Brown cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 30-Aug-2017 8-Oct-2017 6 6 Wichita Lineman (Jimmy Webb cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 30-Aug-2017 2-Nov-2019 75 75 Slither (Velvet Revolver cover) n.a. n.a. n.a. 3-Jun-2018 2-Nov-2019 45 45 ^ Due to incomplete setlist information (especially in the mid-80's) these songs may have been played more often and/or debuted at an earlier date. * These songs are known to have been played an unknown number of times prior to 26-Mar-1985 under the bandnames Hollywood Rose, Rose or AXL. I tried my best to only include full songs, not intro's and snippets. But it's hard to distinguish based on the info we have. The list of live covers is, obviously, incomplete. Ps. Pro tip: You can just copy-paste this table to Excel and sort by most played, last played, first played etc.
  32. 24 points
    One day the band won’t be around anymore and people will say “Damn, I wish I could see Guns live again.” Until then, I’m going to enjoy what’s given to me and whatever comes with it. See you in Charlotte and Vegas.
  33. 24 points
    Clearly you guys aren't fans of the band or understand the bands or Axl's history. Axl has been doing pre show preparation for decades including physical exercise, stretching and having work done on his back. There are a number of articles that mention his pre show practices. Instead of knocking the guy down, maybe read and understand why he does preparation. One would think after decades of doing the same thing, as a 55 year old he might of given it away by now. The fact he is still doing it means it's for a reason. Might not be to your liking or reasons, but you aren't the ones up on stage for 3 hours plus. If you were able to see the man from close up, front of stage, then you would have been able to see the sweat pouring off his forarms and teeshirt. You would need to have physical stamina, fitness and a healthy body to continue being physically active for long periods of time.
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  35. 23 points
    The way he plays now is the complete opposite of what made him a legend
  36. 23 points
    Please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please have some sort of surprise lined up for us in the way of new music in order to support these tour dates.
  37. 23 points
    anyone a member? I am going through some old stuff and I came across this, I remember I signed up for it for 1 year and I am pretty sure I was supposed to get a Newsletter every 4 months and I got this 1 newsletter and I never heard back from them, kind of makes sense if you look at the timeline as this was dated from May 9, 1996 and Slash left in October and maybe the band went into a disarray and they stopped sending them and making them, anyone know if they made any after this Volume 1 issue 3? anyone have any of the previous 2 Newsletters? it is odd though I received this in May 1996, and looking at the "Language of Fear" thing it talks about a contest and the entries have to be received by February 1995 and the discography says compiled November 1994 and Sympathy for the Devil was released in December 94 so I am guessing they just sent me an old copy.
  38. 22 points
    We've been too long without an official release from Guns N' Roses. In that time, we have been treated as a nuisance by the band's management for wanting new music, all the while hoarders collected hidden material. So let's raise one for The Chairman, who acquired the recent leaks and published them in full for common ears.
  39. 22 points
    It's more like Disneyland. It costs a small fortune, and you get to see Mickey Mouse.
  40. 22 points
    I live in England and would leak them straight away. Rose isn't going to reach me here, northern England, close to Scotland. If he or his minions turn up at my door I'll knock them out.
  41. 22 points
    Axl: Beta, get Fernando on the blower Beta: Why Mr Axl? Axl: Slash keeps talking about recording new music. Beta: What do you want us to do Mr Axl? Axl: Get some fucking tour dates announced pronto. I can't be having this new music talk every time he gets a little down time. Beta: Right away, Mr Axl. Axl: Who knew Alter Bridge would be the bain of my fucking life? Beta: I'm so sorry Mr Axl
  42. 22 points
    Just want to clarify something- I saw someone made a post saying I have strong connections to the band so I want to clarify that I actually do not have any connection to the band at all. This news is true and I do know that for a fact but it's because of others who do have connections with the band that I was able to confirm it. Might seem like a small point, but it's important to me. I don't ever want to give the impression that I'm more connected than others or any sort of "insider"
  43. 21 points
    After much listening to fellow members and discussions amongst the Mod staff concerning the recent policy changes around posting links to unlicensed content, we've decided that the outline provided below is really the only course of action. To begin, the forum will not create a private or separate area for members to post YouTube links. This option actually creates more problems than it solves. First, it isn't full proof and the deadbeats responsible for this nonsense would likely access it at some point. The mod staff do a great job of cracking down on alt accounts by and large, but we're not perfect. It would only be a matter of time before the GNR deplorables that have terrorized the GNR fan community for over a decade would breach the walls and bring the section down. Second, the creation and allowance of a private section creates a liability issue for myself as owner of the forum and for our current hosting provider. Currently we cannot be charged or found liable for links or content if we demonstrate that best efforts are made to ensure it doesn't appear on the forum. Someone posting a link to unlicensed content on here doesn't necessarily expose myself or the forum to civil legal action or liability since we are merely required to show that reasonable efforts were taken to remove the post within a reasonable amount of time. Establishing a separate section of this forum with the sole purpose to circumvent the DMCA exposes the forum, the host provider, and myself to legal risk. Quite simply, a private section shows intent to evade copyright violations. Our hosting provider, if they discovered that our forum was structured to enable our members to post links to unlicensed materials, would surely drop us as a client. And while I see it as extremely unlikely, it could potentially open myself up to civil liability should the day GNR wanted to come after me personally (GNR management has already expressed to me in writing that our allowance for the discussion of the recent leaks put us in the same legal grounds as those who distributed those leaks). Some of you might want to "fight the power," but that's easy to say when it's not your potential financial survival at stake. As much as I would hate having to remove links to videos of taken by fans at GNR concerts, it's not worth jeopardizing the longevity of the forum or my own financial well being. The risk certainly isn't worth it over a band like Guns N' Roses, who have, by an large, become nothing more than business that prioritizes money making opportunities above all else. I'll repeat: the main priority with GNR these days is to make money. It's become my impression that concerns about the fans or music in general are a distant priority, if even at priority at all. So where does that leave us? Pretty much where we started last week. We will not allow direct posting of unlicensed content on this forum. We will no longer allow posts that link to unlicensed content. What we well allow, until told otherwise, is keywords by which people, with a reasonable amount of intelligence, can used to discover the content themselves. We ask that posters refrain from naming the source or platform when providing keywords that describes the content in question, but I think anyone with some level of familiarity with various video sharing platforms can figure out where to search using the keywords described. We get it: it's incredibly annoying, frustrating and disappointing, but it's the best of the bad options at this point. As we saw with the leaks, a tremendous amount of discussion is still possible on this forum without having access to it via the forum. At the end of the day, it wasn't YouTube videos that built this forum (YouTube didn't even exist when this forum first started). It was the community of passionate GNR fans who wanted a place to discuss anything related to the band and the music. The forum will continue to provide a platform where fans can learn, discuss and debate any topic that comes to mind. If this forum needs YouTube videos to survive then it's probably not worth saving at this point. Again, we apologize that it has come to this but there's not much more we can do or say on this matter. GNR seems to be on the forefront of having some real pieces of shit as fans. As much as I feel sorry for the community as whole who find themselves continually and repeatedly disappointed from the same old bullshit, I also feel sorry that there are people out there who have so little in their lives that taking away joy from others is the only thing that gives them purpose. How little in one's life does one have to have to make taking down fan videos and harassing online communities like ours a priority in their own lives? It really is sad that such sad little people exist. But that's the world we live in unfortunately. I do agree with many that it's a shame that GNR management doesn't feel compelled to do much or communicate their position on the matter. But understand that even though we're all dealing with it, the problem is larger than GNR and what they are likely able to do help fix it. The system that manages content rights and rights holders is severely broken. Until such time when anonymous losers can't lodge a copyright complaint, that only copyright claims can be filed and acted upon by the rights holders, there's not much we or the band can do. We're going to pin this discussion in the D&N section so that it can be seen as many members and visitors as possible. Feel free to discuss below.
  44. 21 points
    The Super Bowl is on FOX this year - they legally wouldn't be able to broadcast Mickey Mouse on live television
  45. 21 points
    That recent video of Axl falling was given a copyright takedown by Blojo, so here's a compilation of Axl falling that has no GNR music and so can't be taken down. Suck it, Blojo.
  46. 21 points
    Let's just make this clear. We will not allow any discussion relating to any correspondence that was intended to be private. This is none of our business and just as we would want others to respect our privacy we will extend the same courtesy to anyone involved with GNR. We kindly "ask" that members do not provide any information of the contents within private documents. This includes summaries, quotations, descriptions or anything of the kind. Failure to abide by this rule will result in a warning point and a seven day suspension. We appreciate your cooperation on this matter.
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    https://www.captiongenerator.com/1470972/Axl-finds-out-about-Zutauts-locker for everyone's amusement, credits go to the caption maker - @Axl S
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