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1 hour ago, allwaystired said:

If (and big if) it's an autobiography, that would be something i'd love to read, but I'm not sure how 'open' it would be, given Axl's desire for privacy. 

I can imagine it might be one of those ones where you don't really feel you know much more about the person after you've finished it.

I can't see him suddenly opening up on a massive scale. 

 

Exactly, just the notion feels like the opposite of everything we've learned about this fella. 

7 minutes ago, Karice said:

Does "You know who?" Rhyme with Merchnando? 😏😉💡🤣🤔

Nah, it rhymes with axle nose. 

I hope we won't get into yet another "the band can't release an album, because they are held back by contracts they signed decades ago" nonsense. I'm not a lawyer, but even if they did have a contract like that, having made half a billion only during 2016-17 would suggest they can buy themselves out of anything, right? 
No, it's not contracts. It's you know who.  

Axl: But it is tough. Because I haven't figured out how to word things in a way that doesn't just look like I am being negative to everyone else or calling them a liar. You know, those were the first- Slash and I hadn't talked in 19 years and when we did talk I was like: "dude you wrote about stuff that didn’t even happen. It's just, not real."

14 minutes ago, Rovim said:

even when you use the word "definitely" you follow it with the word "might". are you aware that you invest a lot of words and time in making sure that everyone knows that it's open ended, opinion based, etc? did I say that @jacdaniel didn't have a good point? I was just sharing my thoughts about how I see it. I hope that's ok.

I don't care much about what the majority wants. I try to see it for what it is, not what I want it to be. I think that beggars can't be choosers anyway. I believe that everything we get from now on is a bonus,

Dude, I really don’t know with you. You reacted to something, offering your point of view. I reacted to something, offering mine. You take it weirdly and get all defensive. You say "I was just sharing my thoughts" – well, what do you think I was doing? It seems to me you take the conversations here very personally, or at least a bit too seriously. Or do you expect just to post things with people either constantly agreeing with you or otherwise not reacting at all? 
As for the majority of the fans, I was just describing what could be logically expected and what Axl certainly can’t not take into consideration, that's all. There’s nothing wrong with speculations etc. 
Anyway, take it easy, gotta go. 

22 minutes ago, Rovim said:

yes, very good. all opinions are valid. I never thought otherwise or tried to present my opinions as fact. must we go through this shit everytime we're trying to discuss Gn'R? you seem to have a need to repeat how it's not black and white, how it's open to speculation, etc. I realize that.

and also, btw, I don't consider Chinese Democracy to be a Gn'R album, but everything that you've said in your post doesn't change what I said in my original post in this thread about why I think that Axl is releasing his Chinese material. mostly for himself, mostly to finish what he started.

Well if I repeat that things are not black-or-white, as you say, then that’s because I often generally see black-or-white approaches here. Otherwise, I don’t know what you mean by "going through this shit". @jacdaniel had a good point, that’s all I’m saying. Or am I not allowed to react?
Yes, your guess is as good as anyone else’s, and vice versa. And since nothing is black-or-white (really, again!?), Axl definitely might be releasing these demos to finish something, but on the other hand has to think of the fans as well (again, the majority of which want to hear some more classic GNR/Slash-based tunes and not stuff like The General). 
We’re just talking here, man. 

16 minutes ago, Rovim said:

but he said he wanted to release Absurd back in 2013 if I'm not mistaken

Possible. But that would have been CD2, the NuGuns era. It's different now, isn't it. Anyway, I don't think it changes anything about what I wrote below that. 

30 minutes ago, Rovim said:

do you think Axl chose to release Absurd as the first single of the current lineup cause the top priority in his mind was how the material was going to be accepted by Gn'R fans? or did he do that more for himself?

my guess is that maybe it's nice for him when some fans enjoy what he chooses to release, but that it's more about finishing what he started and then maybe he'll move on from it after all the old Chinese tunes that he wants to release are out there, officially.

Or maybe he was actually testing the waters with Silk Worms, yes, it’s possible. Could have been a whim. Could have been a bet. Could have been incited by the other guys (unlikely, though). Could have been a number of things. (He also mentioned on the stage some joke that people don’t get regarding this song; I think someone here commented on that, but I’ve probably forgotten what it was about... granted it was ever explained at all.) 

I wouldn’t mind him releasing a large number of CD2 tunes as part of the new album, as long as there are at least a few new/Slash/90s songs. But it's still not hard to understand that to many people – and especially the casuals, who are the ones filling the stadiums after all – Axl’s NuGNR (CD) era was indeed just a solo effort, regardless of the fact he always kept the band’s name. And so I see why some folks would want him to get the CD2 stuff out of his system first and then release a brand new album made by the original three and containing their own songs, even if from the 90s. It's not rocket science and most bands would do it this way. We're just so immersed in this band fandom that we've sort of gotten used to thinking that everything is impossible. Anyway... it probably won’t happen like this, but it’s a valid point of view nonetheless. 

I hope (yes, there are still fools amongst us) this is not just some merchandise fuckery. Although god knows it kind of does smell like it. 

The quotes page is bullshit.

Interesting. But why? Why now? Why like this? Is Fernando going somewhere, hmm? And why are there only 2023 images? Weird, unexpected, but ok, I guess we shall see what it's all about. Maybe they should put "stay tuned" there, like back then. 

Anything that starts with "the band's manager, Fernando Lebeis, ..." 

4 minutes ago, Stiven.DxN.10 said:

Lucky us! I was listening last summer's Paris show IEM sound on youtube and it's pretty cool. And that Whiskey '86 show...what a treat! I wish that Axl could see that the band needs a real manager or a management team and let's hope when CD era comes to an end TB is going home for good.

Would be great, but I don't see that as a real option. Beta is basically Axl's surrogate mother, and Nando is, well, her son. They've lived with him in his own house - they're not going anywhere. The only hope I'd see in this would be if Slash/Duff interfered a little bit and tried suggesting something to Axl every now and then. Some incentive on their part could set at least some things in motion. 

42 minutes ago, Stiven.DxN.10 said:

I can't remember if that was brought up in this thread before, but why the actual fck it's so difficult for this band and that thing its called TB do some stuff to keep peoples interest in the band? Bon Jovi, Def Leppard and Motley Crue are doing this vault thing were they upload stuff from their archives (photos, documents, tour stuff, contracts etc) and it's great, you see stuff that you never thought you'll ever see. I'm sure Axl has almost everything from 1985 till this day just getting dusty in his garage. Also it would be a great chance for all the AFD guys to work together even if it's not music but to celebrate in a way the bands legacy. The 40th anniversary of GN'R is on the way and it would be great for such thing to happen.

You’re absolutely right, of course. They are terrible at this. But I was gonna say "mind you, you should expect the local forum police coming at you soon with such stuff as they don’t owe us anything, people just keep complaining, move on, etc." – and voila, there you go. 

There’s undoubtedly loads of material that could be released, even if in some inferior Youtube quality, but Axl just won’t release old stuff, and TB - the so-called management team - are living the golden life, so why would they rock the boat by nagging him about anything. 
At least we have bootlegs...

14 minutes ago, Rovim said:

I don't know any precise demand numbers either, but if they chose to sell it at that low price, they want to clear inventory ie make what they can now so it will be losing money cause you won't gain anything in those couple of years since the demand is very low, or at least that's how the seller sees it.

Yeah well, it’s still nasty. And I wouldn’t consider losing some trivial money on this as such a huge issue for a band that made half a billion only during the first two years of the reunion tour. 
In any case, it’s a bit too unfair towards some fans, that's pretty clear. 

5 minutes ago, Rovim said:

that's not how you clear inventory though when there is almost zero demand

Idk any precise demand numbers, but let's say they could have gone half-way, kept it somewhere at 150 and give it another couple of years. The goal would have been still achieved imo.

Is it just me or... I mean, a sale is always nice, but shouldn't they have had the decency to still keep it at some at least reasonable price instead of this blatant spitting in the face of those who bought it at the full price not so long ago? 

15 minutes ago, Avillart said:

 

Well, I was 15 back in 1992 and I met him then but I never got any bandaids from him. Also not last year when I met him again. Wait - now I feel like a failure LOL

Joking aside. The plaster thing is not related to the assault topic but the photos the plaster collectors posted yesterday and that I shared here on the previous page are. Cause somebody posted that Friday was a due date in the case but that there seems to be no news about it. Also, as has been shared by others in this thread, the court has been trying to serve Axl the papers several times but he was never home and one time a staff member even told the court person that Axl is not the resident but Beta.

Since the picture from the stalkers/bandaid collectors show him 2 days ago I thought I'd share them here, to document that he must be home. 

Again, I apologize if that was wrong and took things off topic but at least it is some "news". 

All's cool. Beta holding an umbrella over him is definitely lame in any case. I'd expect something like that from Michael Jackson maybe. 

Feels like they're 15 and it's 1992, but oh well. 
Anyway, what does this have to do with a sexual assault allegation? Were band-aids involved? Did he use them to stick her on the bed or something? 
Or do they fall off him everywhere he walks/runs? Or how do we know they're his own? So many questions! 

20 minutes ago, Italian girl said:

He's over-exposing, in my opinion.. he's everyehere

I see it as a sort of a natural orgasm. I mean, with Axl, he’s forced to do essentially the same tour and play the same songs for years on. So once freed, the dude fricking flies! 

Ha, I got Ashba's Badge of Shame!  You know what, I'll take it.

I'll take it, goddamn it. I'll just smash the mic and I'm out of here. Hand me that shirt. Hand me that shirt!!! 

Can't wait for this goddamn album! 

15 minutes ago, Free Bird said:

I really don’t know what we’re talking about here. Forget all preferences in or outside the band. As long as Slash is in the band there will be just him on lead guitar and maybe Fortus or whoever is playing alongside Slash. Call it logic, preference or whatever you want. It is what it is.

All resistance is futile! It’s just his typical way of attributing something to someone that they never said and just using strawman arguments all over. I wasn’t talking about Axl or decision-making, I wasn’t denying anyone their preferences or whatever, which I even explicitly stated above and then repeated several times. I was talking about the majority who attend the gig to see Axl standing next to Slash, playing SCOM. These people are gonna wanna hear Slash on the solos, not Finck or Bucket or whoever the hell, and that's only logical. SM is using textbook logical fallacy, deliberately misunderstanding and twisting shit around into nonsense as usual, that’s all. I guess he can’t help himself. I’ve just wasted another few minutes of my time, but I can live with that and hopefully learn a lesson...