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Given I’m in the same time zone as Spain and they start around 9.30 and it’s Friday, I might be too drunk by that time to watch this thread tonight - so in any case, enjoy yourselves, folks!  

If you guys are into survivals, give a go to Sons of the Forest. Fricking A. 

6 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

"The More Spaghetti Incident"

"Chinese Cracy (not just a 'demo' any longer)" 

2 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

People who constantly complain about being in the band yet are entirely unable to make the band operate any differently? 

You're literally describing many people's employment relationship here.

Could they just... put it on Youtube? Just like that? I have no idea, I guess not. 

1 hour ago, Rovim said:

I think that most of how Gn'R operates is a reflection of how Axl prefers it to be.

No doubts there.

35 minutes ago, kiwiguns said:

I don't think you understand the music industry of today, compared to the past. 

Touring is were the money is made today by all musical artists, not selling albums. 

Musical artists today, don't require a major recod label for financial support nor to release there material. They can do it all themselevss and control the publishing, distribution etc. 

Live Nation are the power brokers of the music industry today, not Universal Music via Interscope or Geffen.

No record label is going to pay Axl to hire out a studio or studios for years on end, and pay the band members to sit around and record an album. Those days are long gone... 

If you look at the Foo fighters and Metallica as examples. Both have there  own in house record label and both have released there albums via this method. They also have there own in house recording studios (studio 66 and the HQ) 

The foo fighters even had control over Foo Fighters: Preparing Music For Concerts to announce their retun and their new drummer. No major record label involvement at all and the band even sold merchandise via this marketing tool. 

You may have even noticed the style of official music vidoes being released by both Metallica and the Foo fighters. Lots of animation and lyric videos or a live performance. 

There is no money in the bank to create expensive music vidoes via record labels anymore. So the artists themselves are creating cost effective alternatives. 

There any many reasons why this band hasn't released a new album and it could simply be, the band taking control of its own product, compared to the past when the music industry was very different.. 

Every artist tours more regularly and longer now compared to the past. The demand and financial revenue is to good to pass up, between a promotor like Live Nation promoting your own standalone shows, to what Danny Wimmer can offer for a one off festival appreance. That's the music industry of today.. 

 

 

 

You’re not wrong, but this begs the question why don’t GNR do it exactly the way the other bands do. They surely have "the money in the bank". Hell, they made more dough in 2016 alone than in their entire previous history combined, Axl’s solo era included. Granted, to do something like this, they’d need a real, competent management, and not a bunch of hacks. 
Bottom line is, if they wanted to release records and videos etc. on their own, they surely could afford it. Other bands have managed, so could they. And just because there's not much money in new records any more, doesn't mean one's supposed to play just the greatest hits forever. Again, other bands release records, so can they. 
I have a suspicion there’s a certain idiosyncratic guy who’s not really convinced about all this, and he happens the be the one standing at the helm.  

Just now, 2020_Intensions said:

No. You are completely making up a reality that does not exist, per Slash's own words. He clearly and plainly stated they have not wrote or worked on ANY NEW MUSIC. I've already had to say this about a dozen times today alone. Why is that such a hard fact to grasp?  

Read it again. I said there could be. As in - in the future, you see?

Btw I could imagine Slash keeping things secret (as per usual with this band), because I don't think he'd want to go through what Axl did before CD - the constant questions. They could have some agreement because otherwise this stuff would be all he'd be asked by both the journalists and the fans from then on. I'm not saying this is how it is, but could be. Anyway, here's to hoping. Again, nothing is impossible, and we know too little to jump to concrete conclusions.

12 minutes ago, ShadowOfTheWave said:

I am not disputing they have recorded new music, just brand new music. The music the band was in the studio for and was working on during the lockdown was the reworked CD stuff. Slash confirmed this in an October 2021 interview where he also confirmed the band had worked on nothing new. The only time Slash has have ever mentioned anything new actually being written was a 2018 interview where he mentioned having a folder for GNR ideas on his phone. Slash said he wants to go in and record a brand new record, but these are just hopes of his until we hear something more substantial.

Yes, maybe not new music (or maybe he's keeping stuff under the lid to avoid people bothering him about it), but that could very well happen, see above.

Folks, all I'm saying is nothing is impossible, don't lose hope. We've been through this, kind of, and we know too little to assert and claim shit.

Good night.

16 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said:

You are the exact type of person I'm describing. You are completely making up your own reality. The songs that were worked on during lockdown were the 4-6 ChiDem songs that we are getting. There is no open interpretation. THERE IS NO NEW MUSIC 

But there could be. Axl's old lyrics plus Slash's new melodies. What's the problem? Plus there was this session in Axl's house - are you sure you know exactly what they were doing in there? Etc. 

8 minutes ago, JimiRose said:

Slash isn't a hired gun...? Slash is certainly paramount to the reason GnR have been playing stadiums and the general population have been interested in GnR again. But in terms of new music he hasn't really had any impact. The fact Axl has decided against releasing CD2 with slash and duff, instead preferring some reworked singles (which we've only got because of the leaks realistically) and still hasn't started writing new music with slash says all we need to know. 

- No, Slash isn't a hired gun. Just because Axl is the boss, that doesn't mean Slash is just his employee. Axl would be fucked way more without Slash (another NuGNR with Ashba-like characters, anyone? Wow, the tickets would sell over night!) than Slash without Axl. Mind you, I’ve always been more of an Axl fan than of any other member, btw.

- We have no clue as to what impact he's had. All we know is they've worked on some music. That's all.

- Since Axl has stuff from the past he wants to release, I understand why he's been doing what he's doing (except for the fucking touring). Then again, that doesn't mean there can't be new tunes on the album. I've always said one way to go is if Axl gives Slash just lyrics and maybe basic tunes and lets him do his magic. That would be like almost basically a new song, why not.

7 minutes ago, JimiRose said:

Really? Bumblefoot was in the band for 8 years and released 1 album. Slash is now into his 8th year back in the band and has released zero albums with GnR. So Bumblefoot must be more important! Bring him back! 

BBF was a hired gun; Slash is paramount. As for the rest, apples and oranges...

34 minutes ago, DeNfr said:

so we can post ONE song from YT but not the whole show? hmm ok, how I edit the thing?

 

done 

 

PS : you'll have to edit your quotes now guys 

Anything that's official, whether from the band or some TV shot. As far as I know. 

41 minutes ago, ShadowOfTheWave said:

He did not say this. He said they'd be free to work on a new record, obviously voicing what he hopes would happen. This is different than saying he and Axl have a plan to work on a new album after the tour.

"Slash confirmed the band had been in the studio."
"Slash also revealed that the band was working on music during lockdown."
"We have one more tour left to do next summer, and then that'll free us up to be able to go in and work on a new record."
Yes, it’s open to interpretation, but I see this very positively. It would be weird to just release a single and start touring again instead – in terms of what he would tell the journalists later.
Soon or not, it’s coming. 
 

43 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said:

It's like groundhog day with people on this forum when it comes to new music. You could tell them 100 times that Slash said we're only getting 2-4 more songs and that they haven't wrote or recorded anything new, and they'll still come back the next day saying things like "I hope they release a full album soon! ... I think we'll get a full album soon ... I can't wait to hear the full album!" .... It's incredibly frustrating to read, especially when this thread, just like the previous, is full of it. Yes, we all want new music. But when the 2nd most important member of the band is telling you verbatim that there is no new music and only 4-6 old ChiDem songs are coming, how the hell can you possibly still fool yourself into thinking otherwise???

But then, you need to pay attention. Otherwise you’re the one perpetuating the Groundhog curse. Slash talked about a couple of singles, yes. But he also said (1) he’d worked on new music since the reunion and (2) there’d be a '23 summer tour and then work on the new record would begin. 
Now, none of these things suggest to me there’d never be a whole new album (and "soon" is very relative, isn't it). In fact, there may even be a couple of newly written songs! Sounds utterly foolish, I know, but I’m just going by the actual factual information we’ve gathered so far from the source itself. All these possibilities are there, the rest is just a question of probability, beliefs etc., but none of that is off the table in any case. So, these are the facts. 

23 minutes ago, DeNfr said:

whole show is great*

 

 

*even with DJ Ashba

We can't do this (YT) here, otherwise cunts will shut us down. 

24 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

Hold on, people are still thinking that there may be a 'new' album in terms of newly written material? Give that one up folks. 
 

Don't you try to stop us now, I just refuse!

23 minutes ago, ShadowOfTheWave said:

Not really, not in the sense that he can make Axl write new music if he isn't inspired to do so. Axl has talked about having writers block back in the 90s when Slash and Duff were in the band. If he's not feeling it, he's not feeling it.

Yeah but I think that was connected with their then relationship. The hatchet has been buried. And Ashba etc. can write whatever, but I’d presume Slash’s music isn’t something Axl would take lightly. Especially it was once so hard for him to replace him. 

26 minutes ago, ShadowOfTheWave said:

Yes, in 2018. Then he confirms years later nothing has become of it. Slash can write all the music he wants, it doesn't make a difference if Axl isn't interested.

Nothing has become of it... yet. Cause they keep touring like maniacs and Axl is Axl. But that doesn't mean those ideas can't be used when they decide to move on.

16 minutes ago, LunsJail said:

Didn’t Bumblefoot and Ashba say that too?

I think their position in the band was ever so slightly different from that of Slash.

1 hour ago, jacdaniel said:

Yeah Slash confirmed recently enough that they haven't actually wrote together.  And Ron confirmed the same for his time in the band. So it would be safe to assume that there's nothing new since early 00s. 

I see no evidence from the last 20 years that Axl will suddenly get in a room and write music, let alone release it.

Slash did say he writes music for GNR, so... 

4 hours ago, Draguns said:

Since Oklahoma was brought up in this thread, I have a question. Wasn't the song  created as a result of the Oklahoma City bombings that occurred in 1995? If so, a LOT has happened since then. I'm wondering if Axl would rerecord the lyrics if it's about that if they release the song. A lot of people may have forgotten about that. I definitely know that a lot of people have forgotten about 9/11 and I live in NJ where we had residents pass away that day.  A lot of younger folks don't even  know about 9/11 or cannot understand the magnitude of that day.  I do wonder. 

Releasing a song in 2023/24 which would be strictly about that would mean releasing a song that's basically intended exclusively for the US audience. Because no offense, but even though it was big back then, today no one outside the US would remember what the hell it was about. A lot of things have happened since... Now, if it was just inspired by it, that's a different story. Anyway, this is what we get when a band messes around with songs and keeps them on the shelf for decades instead of releasing them.

This thread now reminds me of a few years back, when all we had here were lists of the Village song mixes. 

1 hour ago, Sweersa said:

I remember back when Prostitute was known as Song #2  

I remember when OMG was new. Hell, I remember when Spaghetti were new. 

Nothing to do with the leak we know, or at least I've heard. 

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/why-foo-fighters-josh-freese-left-guns-n-roses/