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2 minutes ago, ©GnrPersia said:
Had so much fun reading this thread. AFD rednecks all around. Haha chill people. It's just music.
Tommy Stinson is a decent and professional bass player. His long history in the industry and the quality projects he was involved with is way larger than Slash and Duff and Adler and your other idols.
Again I'm not saying Slash or Duff aren't good. It's just that this is not a boxing ring. It's music.
So keep it down when talking about Tommy Stinson. hehe.
So what?? Doesn't mean he still can be a biased idiot. And I take anything Duff and Slash put out over his stuff anyday.
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53 minutes ago, Blackstar said:
By a few people. More about the almost-to-be reunion in 2006:
(There is also a later interview with Merck that is not included)
Also in my timeline here (in the part that is in spoilers):
The peak of Axl's bitterness towards Slash was between 2008-2010 (that was when the "cancer" comments etc. were made) - I assume it had to do with Slash's book but also with his issues that were related to the release and performance of CD. It wasn't so much prior to that and especially afterwards.
Merck did get fired, no? Axl spoke of management pressuring him into doing a reunion, no?? Doesn't mean it was close or something he ever considered to do in those years.
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58 minutes ago, Blackstar said:
I wouldn't say it's bullshit. There were many hints and indications back then that they came close to a reunion. It was not going to be a permanent thing like the current lineup though, but rather an one-off, probably as part of the negotiated settlement of the lawsuits, and then everyone would go their own way. But something went wrong along the way and it didn't materialize, and as a result relations between the camps soured even more.
By whom?? Certainly no one that matters. Back then the man that matters most still had only the worst to say about Slash. On more than one occasion. And what's the point of a one-off, when they still can't stand each other/had issues.
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3 hours ago, anchel2 said:
Tommy almost left GNR before 2006 NYC shows. He was so pissed at Axl because of Bumble addition... The reunion almost happen that year .
He really loves Finck and ovbiously Frank and Fortus.
And yes, he didnt like DJ Ashba too.
Right. That's why in the years after Axl still called Slash a cancer and that the reunion would happen not in this lifetime. It's pretty much bullshit what you say here regarding the reunion.
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27 minutes ago, Rovim said:
so Tommy is not allowed to have an opinion about his favorite Gn'R album cause why exactly? especially when music is such a subjective topic.
Funny that his favourite is the only one he played on. And wasn't he the guy, who wasn't a GNR fan before joining? So what does he know? He's clearly not one to talk. And yeah, he's definitely subjective.
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8 minutes ago, B5Redeye said:
I’m so glad you posted this and blackstar posted the stats from 2016.
in a previous thread I had stated there must have been less tickets for sale. You told me I was full of shit 😂
in 2016 there were a little over 47000 tickets available. In 2021 there were 38000 tickets available.
The % of sold tickets was EXACTLY the same at 93%.
Though that means nothing. If they had sold more tickets, they would have made more seats available. That's an old tactic to make numbers look good.
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27 minutes ago, Grayfox said:
Maybe not. But with a show Saturday. It could drop this coming Tuesday
Definitely not saying anything is coming. I certainly wouldn’t hold my breath. But, there’s plenty of smoke lately.
You should smoke less then.
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On 8/1/2023 at 4:41 AM, Ace Spade said:
I hear Pee Wee used to play in the theater.
RIP Paul Reubens
The one time he wasn't childlike.
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11 minutes ago, BillConnor_1982 said:
Yeah, maybe it says Americans are smarter than the rest of the world because they were the first to recognize the great rock n roll swindle that GnR has become
They go in droves to see Taylor Swift. Maybe you wanna rethink that.
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33 minutes ago, Rovim said:
on the contrary my friend, I find that often disagreement leads to more interesting discussing. It's not a big deal, but I've noticed that you're kinda become rigid when someone disagrees with you and there's no need for that imho. I enjoy discussing Gn'R with you, but it becomes impossible sometimes to have a constructive doscussion if you can't see that not everyone shares your prefernces.
I choose to spend a lot of time in forums cause most people irl find this shit and other shit much too boring to discuss. Don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Newsflash: I find it boring too. Especially if it's shit that has been discussed already over and over. And there comes a point where it is not needed to discuss it further. I stated my bit, you stated yours, move on. No need to go over and over it again.
26 minutes ago, JimiRose said:A beautiful thing for the band no doubt! Not as much the concert goer. Unless you're on MDMA in which case stadium is better. More people to chat shit to
For me too, when I turn around. I enjoy it.
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1 minute ago, Blackstar said:
For me rock concerts shouldn't be held in stadiums in the first place. The essence of rock music changed when that started happening in the '70s.
I personally have never really enjoyed a concert in a stadium, pyro or not.
Oh, I think a sold out stadium is a beautiful thing. Turning around and seeing a stadium full of people, is an amazing thing. That said, I never would want to be one of those people seen, when people in the front turn around. Glad though that there are people happy to be in the back or we would have a problem.
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11 minutes ago, felixGNR said:
but that's a fact.
they went from playing Metlife stadium (2016 2 shows over 100k tickets sold)
to play the same venue to 37k ( 2021 1 show)
Swift just played 3 sold out shows ( could have played 10 shows if she wants it.)
now the Metlife show would hit 30k if lucky. ( tons of give away i guess)
As long as (enough) money is to be made and they are continuesly booked into stadiums, they are a stadium act. If promoters loose money, booking them there and they stop booking them there, then they are no stadium act (in North America) anymore. Though they still are in the rest of the world. So maybe that says more about americans than about them.
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8 minutes ago, Rovim said:
you don't like it when people disagree with you is my takeaway. Have a great day.
LOL could say the same about you. But unlike you, I don't need to go back and forth ad nauseam. Don't have the time for that.
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19 minutes ago, Rovim said:
I disagree with that,
Yeah. We got as much. Let's just leave it at that. There is no pyro. End of story.
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13 minutes ago, allwaystired said:
Stadiums in America disagree. Which is sort of what this thread is about.
Have a look at some of the pictures posted above. Abysmal sales and the gigs are imminent.
The 'somehow they were pretty full' is giving them away for tiny or even free sums.
And yet they did stadiums again in North America. So it was financially viable or they would stop doing that. And I recall back in '21 some of these charts looked bad too.
7 minutes ago, Rovim said:it's not the same thing, but it works on the same principal: pretty colors and loud sounds are fun for many people. So what if Gn'R are not Rammstein, as if a band should only do it if that's one of their main things.
you repeating the same argument that if it's not Rammstein-levels of pyro, it's childish makes it seems like you're missing a point here maybe which is that just cause you don't get anything out of it, doesn't mean other people that do, must enjoy it cause they skipped the stage of growing up.
Well, if they go to a rock concert and cry about lack of pyro, they must have. I say, if it's not proper, impressive pyro, it's not worth the effort, as it doesn't really enhance anything.
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11 minutes ago, JimiRose said:
It absolutely does when you see a band in a stadium. In a club or amphitheatre no pyro is required. it's all about the up close and personal and being at one with the band, When you are 3 miles back with 80k people watching ants on a stage for £150 per ticket, you bring pyro, you bring fireworks you bring confetti. Especially when you once did, because as someone who has seem GnR 17 times, it is massively noticeable without.
Well, I've seen them 35 times and to me it's only noticeable, because people here mention it. Otherwise I wouldn't have noticed. But then again, I don't sit 3 miles back, that would be pointless to me too.
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29 minutes ago, Rovim said:
do you also think fireworks are just for children? (and Trix are for kids)
visual and audio shit enhances the spectacle for many adults. Not because they are not mature, I don't think but because it adds more power and "color" to a live show for them imo.
You don't really want to compare proper fireworks to the measly pyro done at GNR shows?? Again, GNR are not Rammstein. Pyro used the way GNR used it, was always forgettable and unimpressive, unless you were a child.
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Just now, Rovim said:
it does for people who enjoy it. I personally prefer a live show to not include it as I don't get anything out of it, but you can be certain a lot of people find it enhances their live experience.
one time it made a live performance much better for me was when Axl did the last part of Bohemian Rhapsody and it felt like someone shot him out of a canon.
Children maybe. Seriously, I couldn't even tell you when and where GNR had pyro previously, as it really left no impression at all.
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10 hours ago, BillConnor_1982 said:
People want to see Taylor Swift so they spend the money. No one wants to see Guns N’ Roses so they don’t spend the money. There’s no mystery here. GnR is not a stadium act anymore especially at these prices. The ride is over.
Stadiums in Europe disagree. And people said the same thing when they did stadiums in 2021. And yet they still somehow were pretty full.
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59 minutes ago, mikeman5150 said:
What’s up with that? Rock shows should have pyro, it just adds to the overall experience.
No. It does not. It absolutely does not. Unless it's a show that lives from Pyro like Rammstein.
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1 hour ago, rocknroll41 said:
People on this thread keep referring to this as Axl’s first time recording vocals in 15 years… Did we just all suddenly forget that Rock The Rock exists?
We try our hardest.
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Just now, Voodoochild said:
But he could also record this track for Schenker in LA. And he could also have recorded anything with Voss in Germany before. Maybe Axl needed in London because thats where/when his "muse" appeared. Also, wasn't Axl in France?
I'm not saying this is for a GNR song for sure, I'm just pointing that it's still a possibility, albeit unlikely for the time being.
It's not unheard (pun intended) for Axl. He did the same thing with Sebastian Bach.
The muse kisses him and he has to fly to London and fly in an engineer from Germany, because there are none in London? Stop grasping at straws. It's clear as day
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1 minute ago, AtlasShrugged said:
True but you'd think he might like to be considering it'd be a huge coup for him. I'd want to be there to experience it myself..
Schenker doesn't quite think like that. To him, he is the big coup.
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38 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:
Like I said before, we don't know if that was just because Axl needed a studio and Slash pointed him to Metropolis after his own experience with Voss.
I was wondering why Voss, why the urgency? It totally makes sense that he recorded for Schenker and the first Axl release in 15 years will be with someone else. Forget him recording in London for GNR.
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Tommy Stinson on Chinese, GNR and Axl
in GUNS N' ROSES - DISCUSSION & NEWS
Posted · Edited by PatrickS77
You don't know to whom all he may have been referring. Fact is, Merck got fired. He wouldn't have gotten fired if Axl was pleased with everything he did. And just because many people speak of something or of perceived hints, doesn't mean it's true. Everything in Axl's demanour back then suggests it's bullshit. At that time Axl still had something to prove. To just reunite with Slash, would have shat into the face of everything he tried to do since they split up.