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  1. it's like with standup comedy. a sketch can be deliberately offensive as if it was racist / homophobic, for comic use, and people will laugh with it because they know it isn't meant. they laugh because it is deliberately offensive. but the moment the audience should realise it is really meant in a racist way, the laughing would stop and you'd hear a cricket chirp in the room
  2. I'm not excusing homopobia and racism, I'm excusing the use of those words. you understand nothing, or you deliberately chose not to. either way, using those two words is perfectly fine, in the context it was used. which was; an immature stab at society, with the sole intention to fake coolness while basing it on some bullshit story he went through. Innocent immaturity it is, but I like it nonetheless. I still play the song from time to time, and everything I think about how outrageously offensive it is. But never would I take it as homophobic or racist.
  3. Greta Thunberg's Groupie

    i'm not convinced that the recent shift in policy of the UK, will continue. in belgium we've seen similar periods of increased prosecution, followed by a nullification of that policy after an election. again: many good intentions, but very little or not non-existent results
  4. Greta Thunberg's Groupie

    meanwhile the rainforest is burning and climate is detoriating as we speak. governments may be ramping up their legislation, but surely you'll agree that in practise not much difference is made. legislation is all good and well, but at the end of the day it's the results that count and they are not good.
  5. Greta Thunberg's Groupie

    the UK is a bit late to the party, to punish water polution too. the EU directive on water polution (2000/60/EG) dates back to 23 october 2000 and has provided certain goals that member states needed to meet, to guarantee healthy surface and ground water levels. see: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/En/TXT/?uri=CELEX:32000L0060 we'll have to wait and see if they will continue to punish companies like they do, in the light of a new possible economic crisis. I'm not convinced.
  6. Greta Thunberg's Groupie

    slow down, can I have some time to read your article? what I learn from that, is that in the UK courts only in recent years started to impose large fines. Until then, the government was slacking off in going against big companies for fear of hurting the economy. So good for the UK that in recent years there is a shift in focus. But things can be changed back to before, just as quickly. the article is only evidence for a minimal time frame (2014-now) where the government is acting a bit more stringent. excuse me, but that's cherry picking too.
  7. Greta Thunberg's Groupie

    or the other big environmental disaster, remember the gulf of mexico? Shell payed off their lawsuit, and they only funded the damage done (of course, that's the minimum minimorum). But no criminal penalty whatsoever. Not one dollar fine. https://www.offshoreenergytoday.com/report-shell-to-pay-millions-to-settle-lawsuit-over-gulf-of-mexico-oil-spill/ or what to think about the companies destroying the rainforest and violating the law doing so? No penalty given. I maintain: punishment of big companies, for destroying the environment, only exists on paper, not in reality.
  8. Greta Thunberg's Groupie

    what a joke. when was the last time a company, anywhere in the world, was "heavily fined" for environmental infractions? hell, fukushima blew up throwing nuclear waste all over the world. what was their punishment? I'll help you out (none): https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2002/09/15/national/tepco-not-to-be-punished-in-reactor-crack-scandal/
  9. Greta Thunberg's Groupie

    I'm here, I'm listening to you. Contrary to the large part of society, I genuinly care. The rest of us won't ever hear your take on this. But I do. And you're pushing me away too. it won't be long, until you're only be left with yourself to convince. Maybe then, you'll start cutting down on plane use. But yes, even though I'm a bit of a selfish prick (I maintain, I will go through my life as usual. Business as usual), I do appreciate your cause. I don't appreciate the hypocrite elements, nor the hijacking of tubes. Should you ever meet your friends at greta's, please give her the message that she should call her cohorts at order. They are damaging their credibility.
  10. Greta Thunberg's Groupie

    what this clip also shows, is how extinction rebellion is using coercive measures to have it their way. I think as a group, you lose your credibility right there and then. It's what I said before. the extreme left wants peace "with violence if necessary". I think the moment a group resorts to coercive measures such as standing on the roof of the tube, we should be like "ok guys, we're done here now. We appreciate your message but your hijacking our train. Get the fuck off or face the consequences". With what right do they hijack the routine of all those people? I don't have any respect for these guys anymore. Doesn't matter what you stand for. I used to appreciate them, I could even see past their hypocrisy, but that was until they used force such as these examples. fuck these guys.
  11. Greta Thunberg's Groupie

    isn't this movie clip like of a condenced version of society in general? you've got two people warning the ignorant mass about an impending doom. The general mass doesn't care, they're just going "we need to work and bring food to the table, and why don't you do the same?" isn't it all kind of melancholic in a way? people are tied to their jobs, to the economy. They won't (they can't) change their behaviour, even when ambushed. we're all fighting for the planet behind our keyboards. but the moment we step out of our house at 6 am, while it is still dark and cold outside, and we just want to be at our work as soon as possible, enjoying a sip of our cheap coffee and checking our emails from our ergonomic seats, we don't need aberrant elements like those two people on the roof of the train.
  12. Greta Thunberg's Groupie

    yeah, the general mass sure is interested in the carrots provided by extinction rebellion
  13. Greta Thunberg's Groupie

    many people are already aware of the issues and the urgent need to act. It's not them that need convincing. You and me, we are the kind of people that follow the news, read scientific papers and so on. We then try to adapt our behaviour, to the best of our capabilities. We are, however, the absolute minority on this. Most people just don't know, either by choice or because they just don't care. They will never care either. They don't care about your carrots. As long as they have their beer and meat, they don't need carrots. So your two pronged crown just lost a spike. then the whip. Taxes and regulations. Totally ineffective. Cigarettes are the most taxed commodity around, and people still buy them all the same even if it damages their own well being. Imagine then how much these people care about the world, if they even don't care about themselves. Regulations? The best you can do is make a regulation that forbits environmentally harmfull behaviour, but what if these regulations aren't followed? stricter punshments? You're going to put people in jail for polluting the environment? while prisons are already full with rapists and murderers. Of course not. Then what? monetary punishment? Still not effective, as the punishment is done AFTER the damage to the environment is done. Plane tickets are getting more expensive each year, but that doesn't stop you from taking planeflights. It's all beautiful theory you write, but I'm sorry to say, alas a bit on the naive side. I think you should just accept it's already too late, and you won't change people regardless of your efforts. I'm afraid your and greta's dreams and future are damaged beyond repair.
  14. Greta Thunberg's Groupie

    newsflash. we still are being stupid is a characteristic. just like you can't change the color of your eyes, you can't one day decide "from now on, I won't be stupid anymore". I also think, our collective stupidness vastly increases over time. Or are you telling me that you are watching television / the news, you see the wars, the scandals, the crying, scaremongering and conclude "wow, we as mankind surely are an intelligent species"? How then, do you think it's remotely possible that mankind will change their way of life over something abstract such as carbon emissions?
  15. if you hold a gun in your hand, doesn't mean you're a murderer. the word is like a gun, but it wasn't used to incite hate, it was meant to offend. I'm sorry if you don't understand that. I think a lack of understanding is the source of all the controversy surrounding this song in the first place. Axl has explained the song, and I accept that explanation. the meaning of the song or the word is not racism, nor homophobia. you do know that john lennon and mark knofler used the very same word in their song, yes?
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