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  1. depressing. A combination of greed, not giving a shit, and being painfully ungrateful. Yes, they don't owe us anything, we can always choose to not follow the band anymore and not buy tickets and merch but honestly I think they're just exploiting our love for the band and it's music. Shit... even the most cold and calculated companies understand that a good relationship with their customers is important or at least couldn't hurt. It will be so easy for Axl to give something back so to speak, but he only does something note worthy when he's got something to promote. I don't believe for a second he's totally oblivious to the situation. I think he knows but couldn't care less at this point. The band has been nothing but a money grabbing entity since the release of Chinese Democracy. I remember when Jimmy Kimmel did that interview with Axl. I liked it but when Kimmel told Axl there were some twitter questions from fans he looked so worried. No one has told him about it. He needed time to prepare for it. No spontaneity. what band treat their hardcore fans like they're a threat? so silly and unnecessary. No way Slash and Duff would have handled it like this if they were not a part of Axl's band.
  2. The "New Album" Thread

    we're going to talk about it anyway like @RussTCB already said. (I know I will) so why not talk about it in here instead of derailing other threads? and no one can tell the future. There's always a chance there will be a new album as long as Gn'R are still "active".
  3. Last full album you listened to?

    Depeche Mode - Exciter (2001)
  4. The "New Album" Thread

    maybe they would have played Hard School as well at least? who knows.
  5. The "New Album" Thread

    yeah I'm aware, just thought it was an interesting comment to mention from back then.
  6. The "New Album" Thread

    I.R.S first leaked in 2005. The Boston tour promo was discussed and some people said it was too crisp to be just a soundboard recording from a live show. I thought that promo was well made. The announcer sounded ridiculous though.
  7. The T.V. Show Thread

    Better Call Saul - season 5, episode 7. Best episode of the season so far. Flawless.
  8. Last full album you listened to?

    Albert Collins - Ice Pickin' (1978)
  9. The "New Album" Thread

    no way of knowing cause they're not talking but I imagine the way Axl's process works (going by what he has said in the past about working on some shit then leaving it and working on something else and going back to it) is trying different things until something works and kinda add it to the pile. He worked with a list for Chinese like Josh Freese said. There were AAA/AA/A tunes. So perhaps more methodical in nature compared to getting in the same room and just jam with the band. and they don't have to start from scratch. So maybe Axl lets everyone come up with ideas and send it to him and this time he'll give Slash/Duff/the rest of the band a chance to rework some Chinese era tunes he still deems as relevant and good enough to be included. I always describe the Axl's slow motion way of doing it like putting together a musical puzzle. I don't think Axl starts with a clear vision of how it's supposed to sound like or a specific criteria. Maybe he knows it's right when he hears it but this time existing material can provide a quality standard and at least in part some direction for the band. Slash must have worked on something in Axl's house. Could be anything, something Slash brought in like a riff or something Axl thought could work well with Slash's style on it so it can start from virtually anything and take shape later. My guess is they're still on "search" mode.
  10. Books/Reading Thread

    oh good. You're alive and reading.
  11. The "New Album" Thread

    yeah that little Hard School snippet is cool. Slash and Duff doing their thing. I'm just concerned that not every song they'll rework is gonna be as good as a fit musically as the original. It's all good though. They're all very talented musicians. I just wish I wasn't in this weird position as a fan where I want to know what Robin,Bucket, and Tommy came up with for at least the second half of Chinese but of course I also want to hear what Slash and Duff can do with it and I just can't see Axl using anyone else but Slash now. (and for good reason)
  12. The "New Album" Thread

    yeah, I prefer the Wings original. Like I said, I'll take anything. I trust Axl's strict quality standard. (I think it won't be a shit album no matter what) I'll try to give a different example: Bumble's Catcher solos. What Axl had there was a fully formed and completed tune with Brian May's work. (who himself replaced Robin's work on it) what if Axl decides to do the same with some Chinese era tunes that we've never heard before? so you've got Slash now, and let's say he still shares perfect musical chemistry with Axl but it's going to be something else, different. Could be better, could be worse and I believe it depends on the song/idea. Slash's favorite released song from that era is Chinese Democracy and it sounds great when he plays it imo. It works. Other Chinese tunes - not so much. At least some of it is not as good to my ears. I think the advantage with reworking unreleased tunes is that it's going to sound more like Gn'R and Slash is a rare talent. The risk is that the original material could be better as is simply cause the musicians that worked on it before had a style that worked better with that specific song. Slash had 4 years to come up with his live Chinese interpretations. In the studio, he'll have better conditions to come up with solos for existing material but it's still indicative of his approach and personally I'm not entirely convinced it's all going to be automatically better just cause it's Slash. I still believe the current line up can produce a great album, but it's likely that some cool shit will get "lost in translation".
  13. The "New Album" Thread

    but it's still essentially the same tunes and they retain a lot of the original style/personality of the people who are responsible for writing and recording the shit. And I don't agree that LALD is better than the original. Just like I don't agree that Better has improved. I prefer Robin's solo and the original intro of the song. My point is that there's still a difference between a song that Slash came up with and a song that anyone else brought in and Slash just reworked. People that don't like the direction Axl went with for the Chinese era probably miss the elements he brought to the sound. Axl talked about this in the 1999 Kurt Loader interview and said that no one else but Slash can come up with a riff quite like how Slash can come up with for Gn'R and it works both ways: a lot of people that really like what Robin and Bucket came up with did not like Slash's interpretation of their work like This I Love for example.
  14. The "New Album" Thread

    understandable as some Gn'R fans never connected with the post Slash and Duff material. If, for example, what you like the most about GnR's music is Slash's style of playing and it's just as important to you as Axl's voice or even more important, why would you want 20 year old material that was written by other musicians to be reworked by Slash? I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I'll take anything, anything at all but I'm of the opinion that Axl won't release a shit Gn'R album cause I liked Chinese as an album but not every Gn'R fan liked it and that's just the way it is.
  15. The "New Album" Thread

    developed and progressed like Aron Ralston
  16. The "New Album" Thread

    or the '96 sessions. The band can try using ideas from the past, the distant past, and new shit as well. Axl said Slash came up with some good shit that was never released before he left Gn'R.
  17. The "New Album" Thread

    I agree, but if Down By The Ocean is a good song, I would love for it to be a part of a new Guns album. If Axl asked Izzy to give him this song that's a good enough of a reason for me to want to hear it. That way, we'll have at least 1 track that was written by Izzy but I wonder if Axl will want to release it now after the shit that went down between them. Also: I love Izzy but it's not like every great Gn'R tune was written by him. (though many great Gn'R tunes were) Some UYI tunes don't even feature his guitar playing/backing vocals and that material is still great imo. I think some fans don't take into consideration that it's likely that a potential new album will contain ideas that came from the minds of not just Axl, Slash, Duff and the rest of the current line up. It seems like Axl wants to use at least some of his unreleased Chinese era material, so even if it's reworked and re-recorded, the origin of some tunes can be Paul, Robin, Bucket, Josh, etc. That could lead to a strong and diverse release imo as others that came before the reunion can fill the songwriting "vacuum" Izzy left (in a way) with the ideas Axl kept by them. This was done even for Appetite with It's So Easy, a song that of course West Arkeen came up with and the band almost completely reworked. They seem to have a knack for taking a good idea and make it 10 times better, turning it to a great Gn'R tune.
  18. The "New Album" Thread

    in an interview for Guitar.com, touching on the subject of the best way for the band to release new music, Slash said the following: (no one said anything about not knowing how to release new music) Speaking of Guns, have you got anything more you can share about the new album? “There’s been no definitive answer on anything and I’ll just keep keep to that. Stuff is happening, but there are no specifics. More than anything, it’s because of the nature of the industry right now. It’s just like, how do you want to do this? I mean there’s material and there’s recording and there’s shit going on, but we’re not really sure what we’re doing with it right now.” The music industry in 2020 is a lot different to the last time you all made a Guns record. “Yeah! And there’s a handful people who said, ’Yeah, make a record and go old school’. And there’s a handful of people that are like, ’We don’t even know what buying a record is any more!’”
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