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  1. What are your expectations for the upcoming leg?

    Well we know that they care enough to read these message boards, but yeah... as of now, it remains to be seen if they care enough to make any changes to the setlist
  2. What are your expectations for the upcoming leg?

    Honestly I don't have any expectations. I just want this tour to end and I want them to focus on a new GNR album instead. Maybe they'll play Shadow of You Love? Maybe Locomotive but most likely not? Maybe a new cover? Who knows. I'm not expecting any dramatic changes to the setlist, but if they don't make ANY changes to the setlist at all, I might be slightly surprised, simply because they must know that a completely unaltered setlist would cause an outrage on these forums.
  3. Why? Because they rather buy new music than songs that they've heard a billion times before?
  4. Well he did predict the song title "Going Down" in that list, before anyone had heard anything about that song, so it's not all that crazy to believe that the other song titles on the list could be real also.
  5. I don't think so! The fact that Slash and Duff are playing so many Chinese Democracy songs live suggests very strongly that they respect Axl's songwriting skills. We already know that Axl has played CD2 songs to Slash and Duff and they liked the songs. When they'll release a new album, there's absolutely no reason to believe that CD era songs wouldn't be included on the album, with Slash's and Duff's input of course. It seems pretty obvious that this Appetite box set is something that they did only to please the fans and maybe to buy some time so the fans would have something to chew on while they're working on new music. This box set doesn't seem to be something that the GNR camp is all that excited about themselves. Otherwise they would be promoting it and they would have made a proper music video for Shadow of your Love. But the Appetite Box set is just something for the fans, not the main focus of GNR. I believe that Axl's true interest is in new material, CD2 music included and at the moment AC/DC especially seems to be his main priority.
  6. Except I think this time everything's different. Back in the day it felt like Axl was a little bitter about Slash's solo projects. It's like there was some kind of nasty competition between Axl and Slash and they didn't have enough respect towards each other. When Slash played new songs to Axl and Axl felt that those songs needed some more work, Slash disagreed and decided to use them in his solo project instead. Slash probably felt like Axl didn't respect his songwriting skills and Axl probably felt that Slash wasn't really committed to GNR and wasn't willing to work hard enough to take the songs to a next level. This time everything seems different in my opinion. It's probably healthy that Axl has a "solo project" of his own now with AC/DC. It seems like they all respect each others solo projects now and there's no unhealthy competition between them. They are all free to do their own things, but when it's time to work on GNR, they will probably all be very motivated to create something great again. Axl and Slash know that they can create great music on their own, but at the same time they probably know that they are much stronger together. So yeah, that's how I see this current situation. I might be wrong, but at the moment I'm not concerned about the future of GNR. It feels like Axl and Slash are both satisfied with the current situation.
  7. Guess I'll share my opinion, cause why the heck not. Obviously this is much better than nothing. It's a nice gesture especially for the AFD purists. It's cool to have something to chew on while they're working on new material, new AC/DC and Conspirators stuff or what ever they're working on. It's clear that we won't be getting a brand new GNR album anytime soon, so it's cool that we get at least this. Still, if I'm completely honest, I'm not that excited about this. Never had any problems with the AFD sound, so I don't necessarily need a remaster. Never been a big fan of the unreleased demos. They're interesting curiosities, but I feel like there's a reason why they didn't end up on the actual album. Now if we're actually gonna get some new old songs that we've never heard before, THAT is something that I could get excited about. That's brand new music for us after all. (INot sure if it's already confirmed that we're getting never before heard music or not. We're getting new updates so fast that it's hard to keep up with it) Anyway, I'm always more than happy to hear GNR songs that I've never heard before. Don't know how much I have faith in old unreleased GNR demos though, since I'm not a big fan of those that we've heard. All in all I'm much more excited about what this current version of GNR could offer. In fact it feels almost embarrassing that Shadow Of Your Love will be released as a single. Most casuals will listen to that shit and think: "WTF, is this the best they can do? Sounds like a parody of old GNR or something". Guess I would have hoped that GNR returns with an amazing new song that sounds kinda like old school GNR, but with a much more modern touch. Shadow Of Your Love sounds more like a terribly dated hair metal song. And if I'm honest I actually hope that radio stations won't play it much. Shadow of your Love is not the kind of a song that I want people to associate my favorite band with. It sound like everything that GNR was at it's worst. Now this is just my opinion though and I don't want to ruin the enjoyment for anyone else. This is cool, but not something that I'm all that interested about. I want brand new GNR music. Still, like I said, this is better than nothing.
  8. I actually followed your suggestion and listened to some Steel Wheels. I don't know if I listened to the right band though, cause it sounded like some country/rock. There's no way in hell GNR are ever gonna sound like that. Other than that I do get your point. I do understand people's concerns. But if there's something to be concerned about, it's that the music's gonna sound too modern. It might sound too much like Chinese Democracy to many fans. That's probably the most realistic concern right now. Of course I would personally be happy with a record like Chinese Democracy cause I loved that record. But I do hope that Slash and Duff bring a little bit of raw, bluesy grittiness to the sound. All in all I think that the most realistic scenario is that they'll release an album that consists mostly of Chinese Democracy era songs written by Axl. Of course Slash and Duff will replace Buckethead, Bumblefoot and Tommy. They'll probably write a couple of brand new tunes for the album, but it won't be AFD II, it will most likely resemble CD II much more. But it most likely won't sound anything like Steel Wheels. It's gonna be much more epic and orchestrated. If you want foreteste of what the next GNR album will most likely sound like, listen to these:
  9. Locomotive vs. Coma Live

    Loved Coma on NITL -tour, and it was the last song I would have wanted them to change, until they came to my country and I finally got to hear the song live. Now I don't care anymore what changes they'll do to the setlist. At this point I'm okay with Locomotive replacing Coma.
  10. Frustrated at his lack of ability to put out new music And In awe that he has managed to front both GNR reunion and ACDC
  11. It's not that strange in my opinion. With bands like RHCP, you know that they're releasing new music on a pretty steady basis. But with GNR you don't know what's gonna happen, so that's why for example I come to this forum, cause I want to know if there's some news. I don't need to check out what's going on with RHCP, because I know that they're gonna release a new album and tour and all the usual stuff. With GNR we don't know anything. Of course if GNR was a band that never does anything interesting, none of us would be here. But we just got a reunion. Something that nobody thought would ever happen. So it's not like nothing would ever happen in GNR circles. It's just that everything happens in slow motion. But at least from my point of view the wait is usually worth it. I loved Chinese Democracy and I loved the reunion. So I'm most likely gonna love the new album too, whenever it comes out.
  12. Does GNR ever tour again after 2018?

    If this "reunion" would have been only about nostalgia, Izzy and Steven would be there too. But clearly Axl has plans for the future of GNR and it's not gonna be only about nostalgia. At this point I don't even care about touring, unless they release a new album first. And I believe it will happen. AC/DC might be the number one priority for Axl right now though.
  13. My top 5 bands of all time

    My personal top 10 1. Guns N' Roses 2. The Beatles 3. Nirvana 4. The Rolling Stones 5. Red Hot Chili Peppers 6. Pink Floyd 7. Radiohead 8. Cypress Hill 9. Led Zeppelin 10. Rage Against The Machine
  14. When it comes to Axl, I always thought that this was an important step forward considering the reunion: "Really, you can get guys from the 'Illusion' thing, but the only thing that would make it would be Duff and Slash, really," Axl said. "It's nothing against Izzy and it's nothing against Steven, or anything like that. Steven may want it, but these guys I'm working with right now, they work really hard and it's hard work. I've toured with the other guys and I've also seen what they've done since, and I just know the difficulties." "I don't have an excitement to work with people that joined in the 'Illusion' time," he said. "There's behind the scenes that was really, really difficult there with different ones. So it's not really even a full reunion." https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/axl_would_only_reform_gnr_with_slash_and_duff.html I think that was the first time, when Axl spoke about reuniting with Slash, like it was actually a possibility. It was also pretty revealing, when Richard Fortus spoke about working on some old material written by Slash: "A lot of the new stuff that we've been working on; some of the stuff come from nothing and some of the stuff is stuff that we've been working on that were ideas that were already there. Some of the stuff Slash did -- it was the beginning of the seed of the song that's been around for a while." http://loudwire.com/guns-n-roses-slash-material-new-album-axl-rose-posts-photo-studio/