TheSeeker

21 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

What do you think? 

Honestly have no idea

Just now, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Mojo should stick with posting his crappy photoshop posters on his Instagram and harassing people on twitter because of their political beliefs and leave us the fuck alone  

What are Mojo's political beliefs

5 hours ago, GNRfanMILO said:

Meanwhile Jarmo’s HTGTH has a 208 page section full of illegal bootlegs with a lot of working links.

...is HTGTH still hosted on Interscope's servers?

If not...

2 hours ago, Live Like a Suicide said:

GNR needs an album to keep the tour and money train rolling. 

Nah - they're going to run the reunion tour into the ground over the next decade

Only reason the reunion happened was because Vegas residencies and 3000-seat theaters were all that was left for GNR in 2014

They'll get to that point again, but they can coast for a few years by continuing to whore the reunion

8 minutes ago, downzy said:

Part of me agrees, but there are legitimate reasons to continue to allow YouTube links to licensed content.  There's still a lot of activity in the Various sections, and it's fun to see people posting film and video game trailers as well as official videos from non-GNR artists.  There's also news clips in Anything Goes that's worth having.

So I don't think we need or should cut it off completely.  

What if you just did the word-filter thing in the GNR-specific forums

1 minute ago, downzy said:

Yes, since a cover of a copyright song is not susceptible to the same copyright claim process.

Just word filter any YouTube URL's to display the text "DON'T POST YOUTUBE VIDEOS, IDIOT" and be done with it

Way too confusing otherwise - we can survive without them

Is it only unlicensed GNR content that we're not allowed to post links to?

Like I linked to a clip of a Jackie Chan movie in the other thread when we were trying to figure out where "Hard School" originated - do you care about that?

What about other bands? Live Velvet Revolver videos? Live Slash feat. Myles Kennedy videos? Live ABBA videos?

 

17 minutes ago, Bucketdude_666 said:

Obsessed in seeing what isnt there, oh my

On 12/1/2019 at 12:19 PM, Bucketdude_666 said:

Hardschool and Oklahoma/Berlin are from 1998-1999 wheter you like it or not

Oklahoma City Bombing happened in April 1995, friend

So you're saying Axl waited 3-4 years to write an instrumental song about it?

Really?

4 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

Is there any option to impose some sort of 'third party' filter to anything posted here that involves links- all links going through a third party site, so users here are linking to that third party, and then on to the final link, rather than simply posting the final link here? 

In a similar way that Paypal acts as a conduit between buyer and seller, would there be a conduit for links that could be used, that would free the site of any claims to be actually 'sharing' the links? 

 

https://tinyurl.com/

Make an official MyGNR Discord 

15 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

This doesn't fit the timeline though, because the interview Duff mentioned it was on July 25, 1996 and he referred to it as something they were about to record.

Had to be Mr. Nice Guy then - it was released 1/31/1997 worldwide

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Nice_Guy_(1997_film)

So they probably recorded Hard School for it, but Axl pulled the song after Slash quit in October 1996

EDIT: I just pulled up Mr. Nice Guy on a bootleg site and the end credits are almost EXACTLY 4:12 long, which is the same length as Hard School!

Rumble In The Bronx was released 2/23/1996 in the US, which would place it firmly in the "time when Axl hated Slash" period:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumble_in_the_Bronx

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New Line Cinema edit
New Line Cinema acquired the film for international distribution and commissioned a new music score and English dub (with participation from Jackie Chan). A scene of Keung's airplane flying into John F. Kennedy International Airport was added to the opening credits. Three scenes were added exclusively for the international version: a shot of the syndicate's car pulling up to the diamond deal, Keung and Nancy escaping from the nightclub after the bikers spot them together, and White Tiger taking a golf shot before a subordinate approaches him with his phone. None of these scenes were in the original Hong Kong release. In comparison to the Hong Kong version, 17 minutes of cuts were made, and the new English dub changed some of the context of the characters' conversations. Keung being a cop and having a girlfriend in Hong Kong is never mentioned. Keung's father being shot by a robber years ago is also not mentioned. In the New Line Cinema edit, Elaine buys the grocery store upon her first meeting with Uncle Bill, but in the Hong Kong version, she decides to buy the market at Bill's wedding.

The new soundtrack replaced Chan's song over the closing credits with the song "Kung Fu" by the band Ash, the lyrics of which mention Jackie Chan, as well as other Asian figures and characters ubiquitous in the west.

 

I betcha that closing credit song was supposed to be "Hard School" at one point (or Axl submitted Hard School for consideration and the producers chose "Kung Fu" instead)

Here's the credits:

 

8 minutes ago, Bucketdude_666 said:

Then slash used songs for that album in Snakepit so Axl was angry about that.

Axl wanted the new band to feel their own and have an unique voice, its been documented as hell. He said that Madagascar was the first song he wrote vocals and sang in studio since Sympathy at least, documented by himself and Pitman.

No - Slash presented the Snakepit demos to Axl in 1994

Axl rejected them and Slash released them as his first album in early 1995

5 minutes ago, Bucketdude_666 said:

Please stop believing shit didnt happen, that songs were written by the band at the time, Axl as we know was infuriated with Slash and everything about him and his asociates that im amazed that anyone would think he recorded a song writen by him in that years.

 

stop spreading false assumptions

Axl was in the middle of recording vocals for the new album when Slash quit in October 1996

Ok let me try and do this

Chinese Democracy-era tracks and when they first originated (sorted by lineup)

Axl/Slash/Gilby/Duff/Matt/Dizzy (1991-1994)

This I Love

Axl/Slash/Paul/Duff/Matt/Dizzy (1994-1996)

Berlin

Down By the Ocean

Hard School

Axl/Robin/Paul/Duff/Matt/Dizzy (1997)

Oh My God

Axl/Robin//Paul/Tommy/Josh/Dizzy/Pitman (1998-1999)

As It Began

Atlas Shrugged

Billionaire

Catcher in the Rye

Chinese Democracy

Circus Maximus

Curly Shuffle

D Tune

Devious Bastard

Dub Suplex

Dummy

Eye on You

I.R.S.

If the World

Madagascar

Mustache

Nothing

P.R.L.

Perhaps

Prostitute

Quick Song

Riad N' the Bedouins

Silkworms

Soul Monster

State of Grace

Street of Dreams

There Was a Time

Thyme

Tonto

Zodiac 13

Axl/Buckethead/Paul/Tommy/Josh/Dizzy/Pitman (1999-2000)

RealDoll.com

Shackler's Revenge

Sorry

Axl/Buckethead/Robin/Paul/Tommy/Brain/Dizzy/Pitman (2000-2002)

Better

Going Down

Ides of March

Inside Out

Prom Violence

The Rebel

Untitled Tommy Stinson Demo #1

Axl/Buckethead/Robin/Richard/Tommy/Brain/Dizzy/Pitman (2002-2004)

Scraped

Seven

The General

47 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

Then the leaks happened and it proved that Axl has a bunch of other tracks ready to go at any time. Even all of the instrumentals show that a very small amount of work would be needed to turn those into finished tracks.

You're implying that getting Axl to sit down and write lyrics for an entire song is an easy task

Between 2001 and 2007 he presumably only wrote lyrics for Better, Scraped, Shackler's Revenge, Soul Monster, Sorry and The General (and possibly Berlin)

36 minutes ago, Strongback said:

I've been wondering, are the vocals on the final 2008 CD the very same as the ones in The Village Sessions leaks, or were all the vocals re recorded in 2006? To my ears they both sound the same but I'm no expert.

https://sleazeroxx.com/recording-chinese-democracy-axl-rose-at-the-palms-studio/

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RECORDING ‘CHINESE DEMOCRACY’: AXL ROSE AT THE PALMS STUDIO:

November 26, 2008

Next month will mark two years since audio engineer Mark Gray, 31, dropped by the studio at the Palms to say goodbye to his co-workers before departing for a vacation. His boss asked him if he would be willing to come back early to do some just-booked sessions. “I went from ‘no way,’ ” he recalls, “to changing my plane ticket right away.” All it took to change his mind is what the sessions were for recording. And, on Dec. 27, 2006, Gray found himself one of the many engineers to be connected to the legendary Guns N’ Roses disc “Chinese Democracy.”

Axl Rose arrived at the Palms Studio inside the resort and worked for 13 days in 2006 on his vocals for the finally released disc. Gray recalls a list of 14 songs (the same number as on the released version) many with working titles. Among those Rose worked on at Palms Studio he is sure are on the disc are “Chinese Democracy,” “Madagascar” and “Prostitute.” Despite the years and controversies that accompanied over a decade-long (The Palms was years from being built when Rose started work on the album) process of creating “Chinese Democracy,” Gray found Rose focused in their sessions at the end of 2006. Gray recalls:

“He had a firm handshake and looked you straight in the eye. It was all vocal overdubs or vocal leads. He would move from song to song, working on different parts. He was jumping about, but he knew exactly what he wanted. The producers set everything so the workflow is catered to the artist for anyone, and that is how it went down here. From what I saw, it was first takes or at most two or three takes. Rose would say, ‘I can get the part better’ or ‘I can tighten it up.’ “

And even if it took two more years for the results to be released, Gray was sure the album would eventually come out based on what he heard during those weeks working with Rose. While Gray was happy to play his tiny part in the disc, of course, he is happier now that “Chinese Democracy” is available to all, with Gray’s engineering work from 2006 integrated into the finished disc. Gray notes of the sessions:

“This is Guns N’ Roses. I had the butterflies in the stomach the night before each night. It was absolutely special. When you hear his voice, it was a highlight of my career. He just went in and sang. He was living with the record a long time by then, and he really knew what he wanted to do. He proved a good guy to be around. We would start about 5 or 6 in the evening, hitting tape by 7. We worked five or six hours. These were great sessions. It was a great moment in the studio for me, and it was technically flawless.”

 

It sounds like Axl just went over everything that was on the final album, but Axl said that he recorded vocals for "Soul Monster" on a Christmas Eve. That was either 12/24/2006 before Mark Gray joined in on the sessions, or sometime between 12/24/2002 and 12/24/2005 (Axl still hadn't recorded vocals for Soul Monster as of Summer 2002).

So let's narrow this down:

-I assume Axl wasn't recording Christmas 2002 after the North American tour fell apart

-Christmas 2003 was right before the label booted the band from The Village for inactivity

-Christmas 2004 the band was at Woodland Ranch Studios

-Christmas 2005 the band had no studio booked

So I'm going to say Axl recorded the Soul Monster vocals either on 12/24/2004 or 12/24/2006 (leaning towards 2004).

48 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

Cheers - yeah, I knew it was originally in the Village discs as a ‘Tommy’ demo. Just wondered when that version was likely to have been produced and whether it really could have been on CD (in terms of a song that was clearly worked on a fair bit and not just a rough idea).

Bumblefoot only recorded overdubs in January 2007 to my knowledge

So I'm guessing it was reworked circa-2002 and sat around until Axl started putting vocals on things in December 2006

Prune accounts that haven't posted in over a year

That includes Axl - I'm glad he came here to cry about the fans and Slash after defending his idiot son from HATEFUL WORDS in 2008, but overall he shouldn't have any kind of special privileges if he's not going to contribute to the community

I forgot to add - only one account per person, period

Ban people who try and log in on to multiple accounts on the same IP

 

9 hours ago, suckerpunched03 said:

Axl also said on Kimmel if he could go back he would relive the past 5 or 6 year cuz he has more fun

Kimmel said after that interview that he brought up Slash backstage to Axl (Jimmy's friends with Slash) and Axl got mad at him

Axl's whole M.O. was "I'M SO NOT MAD, LOOK I'M HAVING FUN" from 2000-2014 - he was obviously still bitter about Slash leaving

That Kimmel interview was the one where Axl listed off the current member's names and the audience had to fake-applaud even though they had no idea who any of them they were - it was fucking cringe

"Bumblefoot"

 

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"[Youth] had "four or five" spells working with Rose in [1998]. [...] 'I went to his house and we started writing songs, strumming guitars in the kitchen', says Youth. 'That was a major breakthrough because it got him singing again which he hadn't done for a long time.' (Q Magazine, 05/01)

I guarantee "Nothing" is one of those songs

Also, I just made a connection from the next passage in Chinese Whispers:

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"He hadn't been singing for around 18 months. I think the record had turned into a real labour. He was stuck and didn't know how to proceed, so he was avoiding it." (Youth, The Times, 03/18/05)

Youth signed on as producer in April 1998 - 18 months prior would have been October 1996, the month Slash quit

So Axl was recording vocals for the new album up until Slash quit...and then stopped

Maybe "Hard School" is in fact from the 1996 sessions