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Remember he spoke about this and said how he needs to think about how to tell his version of events while not rocking the boat too much. End of the day Duff and Slash have to be reasonable, they both wrote their books and there's things in there that Axl strongly disagrees with yet he has put that aside to play again... So even if there is some stuff they don't like in his book, they have to suck it up just the same. That stuff is 20+ yrs ago, they should be well past it now. I imagine Axl releasing a book would be more to have his version of the story out so the public could make up their minds. I just don't think it matters that much to people anymore though. But the break up is still a huge money spinner, one that they've never tackled since the reunion.

I agree, I don't think he's unable to give grit in the studio it's just live when he's caught out, and even then he has good days and bad where he can deliver

Well they don't have to do anything really, but if they hypothetically release a song and it somehow (despite all their worst efforts) got popular there would be an expectation of hearing it live. If gnr had retired as an active touring entity and were just making music like Queen did then fire ahead...just no facking AI, unless it's absolutely the only way of very NG things done. I'll contact my bank manager

This is a fair and reasonable point, they could use the tech available today. My argument against is that 1. I'm a purist and don't want to hear robot music. I'm ok with some autotune here and there but the idea of AI enhanced Axl makes me nauseous. I'll take current day Axls attempt for better or for worse. 2. If Axl uses that tech to sound like a younger voiced version of himself, he paints himself into a corner of not being able to perform it live. 3. I'd have to imagine Slash would be seriously against this, he is a pure traditional rock guy and barely likes using pro tools. This idea is fine for deceased musicians to finish off demos like the Beatles etc. but Axl is still alive and fit to work. I think the point of the post is the reality of Axls vocal ability and the reality of performing live and that it's not going to get any easier so now is the time to release music and tour while he still can pull it off. I don't think he's going to be able to do jungle etc. in another few years. On topic. I would love to read an Axl book. I would not like to be the editor though🤣

Exactly. Anybody that thinks otherwise has their head up their arse. He could still hypothetically release plenty of music, but it would take an incredible shift in his thinking, workflow and creative process. Anyway, you're spot on with all of the above. *See serial confused face user below to find the no 1 head up their arse commenter😉

He sold a lot more before gnr reunited. On Dublin 2015 he had a lot more people than this years show which was largely curtained off and the floor was very easy to move around too. There are going to be fluctuations with countries but I'd say that Slash is comfortable around 5000/7000 capacity anything more is a stretch. Yeah I wanted a shirt but it was fugly

I still think the guy who got DJs face tattoed on his entire back wins weirdest fan (sorry if you lost here, but 😬). And those people waiting outside Axls house.... Leave him alone, if you're that obsessed you're well aware that he loves his privacy, so allow him that.

Axls spice melange💩

Anastasia.... I mean have you heard of deep purple, neo classical and then of course all the classical music all those were influenced by?? It's a different type of song for Slash though. There's some variety for sure! And I get where you're coming from with the Izzy stuff! There is this idea that he was the the only writer in the room, he was a big part but those songs he wrote were heavily modded, so Izzy should be given loads of credit but Slash can write a song as can Axl and the others so this idea that people have that they can't write without izzy is a little bit of a stretch. He brings a certain simplicity / authenticity that might get lost by the others sometimes though.

You cannot compare. First off this thing that Slash's material is more original? I don't agree. Bot saying Izzy's solo stuff is either though. They both have very obvious influence. Secondly as pointed by others Izzy's just releases his albums, no tour no promotion. So obviously you don't hear about those records. I also agree that IF had decided to release music and grab himself a business team he could be playing to reasonably sized rooms and selling a lot more albums. His thought process obviously doesn't factor that stuff though. Slash on the other hand does factor this so he has a big team working for him = more well known solo material. If Izzy ever decides to get in the ring then we can make a judgement, but had Slash decided to release the way Izzy did with zero promotion and touring nobody would know his stuff either

Estranged. Absolutely insane but epic. Also Welcome to the jungle.

Best case scenario is a leaner set with less of the epic tracks, pianos and keyboards are as linked to gnr now as guitars, drum and bass. Plenty of material that can't be played without them, and then there's the problem of tracks that don't need piano/keys but Axl would struggle too much trying to sing them now. That's a very limited set, but it could be cool for Arenas and some larger theatres, that could be cool.

I actually think that's the way everybody should go to a gig. Zero preparation or looking up what will be played. Now... With Slash he said pretty clearly there would not be gnr material, it's not his fault if people are checked out and not following his interviews or setlist fm but have tickets. On the flip side, Slash and his team can access geographic data for how well songs are liked/listened to know which songs are going to perform well, so he could have chosen from his solo catalog a little more carefully IMO.

Cool! didn't think there was anything to those rumours but apparently there was. Hope this makes its way out!

Agree with basically everything you said! Yeah Todd kinda steals the show, he just comes on with that 80s rock attitude "Come on you fuckers", I think he could probably take a few more songs in the set. I'm positive Myles would not mind and it would give him a chance to play some more guitar or just have a break. Myles is just not your typical rock showman, he's not going to do all that stuff... Also thought Myles was a little take aback in Dublin with the audience at least initially. The crowd got into it, but it took a minute! I could a look of "is this going to be a REALLY long night" on his face after a few of the earlier songs. They should probably change out those intro songs. River is rising is not an opener, it's a lead single form the album so I guess they feel they need to play it but it has no impact. Come on strong (world on fire, Avalon etc.) so difficult to gain ground after a false start.

I think it works better having the separation, bit of a chaotic thing going on having all in one space.

That one was a surprise, didn't really like it on the album but it works well live. Myles asking in between lyrics if the dog on a fans phone was a shih tzu cracked me up🤣

Yeah production was next to nothing. I think they were going for to frills rock n roll but to me it said "keep the budget tight". Even an animated screen behind them instead of the standard banner would have been something. I had great centre seats so I could see everything (in theory should have had great sound too) but had I been further back or on the floor I wouldn't have seen a thing. I don't think I'll bother seeing him solo again.

Not expected true, but the set lacks songs to hold a large crowds attention. I saw the Dublin gig and the first 3 songs were really poor choices, I watched the crowd go for euphoria at seeing Slash to then being kinda sedate until he played something better or more well known. Now the crowd was pretty into it for the most part though, but they were not buying the material that's come since WOF that's for sure... with the exception of the Elton John cover. Biggest songs of the night were from the first 3 solo albums Starlight, Wicked stone, You're a lie. That River is rising song is a flat piece of cardboard live If he's not playing GNR (besides Don't damn me/bad apples) he should at least throw in some Velvet revolver. But my big take away from the show was that Slash's solo material on its own is not up to the task of entertaining an arena, fine for a club. The sound was pretty rubbish too, apparently it was the same when they played England. Mammoth were pretty good though, his voice is incredible (as was Myles's) and his guitar work was spot on! Guitar player of the night without question. Now the songs aren't always my cup of tea, but I would have preferred a slightly longer Mammoth set (better sound too).

I don't like having to do all this research, but it's great when it proves you to be even more off base. Going one further, Perhaps charted on billboard no 24. Hardskool was no 9. Better was no 18 These are all billboard chart positions which is all you count. There was also only 1 official single from Chinese too (this might not be accurate but that's what it says). Anyway... I'm not defending Axls lack of output. Just saying your initial post wasn't really accurate. I don't think there was a megahit on Chinese. But the right push behind Better, Chinese and they could have done a bit more than they did.

Well charting in itself is a hit but I was also kind of joking... But not joking. It is a fact that when you get into the top ten even if it's not in the great old USA it's counted as a hit... At least since the beginning of modern music history. I mean we can say the goal posts have moved now, but this was what it was. Not a song that was on regular circulation like Taylor swift or dua lipa but it was popular enough to get onto playlists and that means it was at least a lower level hit. Nonetheless a hit is a hit.

Well after some digging it appears you are dead wrong😄 The song Chinese democracy actually performed on mmfew worldwide charts No 5 on American main stream rock chart. Top 10 song in Canada, top 30 in the UK. Finland, Norway, Sweden etc. were all top 10 too. And there's more countries if you care to scour through that info. There was no megahit and today almost nobody remembers...but nonetheless a hit is a hit. I rest my case.

Well they can technically replace him but what I meant is that you can't escape his shadow. I liked a lot of those guys either on stage or in the studio but that's not the popular opinion, most still say "it took 3 guitar players to replace Slash". Idiots of course😄

Motley will have retired and got back together again, that'll be a hot tour

I wasn't really thinking co-headline, more of a big band that could bring in a slightly different crowd. Have you checked out Nickelback live? I've just seen clips but I can imagine a GNR crowd enjoying them - pyro, big choruses, big hits everybody knows. I'm not going to bat for Nickelback they were just one band that sprung to mind. Carrie underwood would be a leftfield choice, even with her supporting them before and helping out with vocals on that show... but in America that might work, Europe I don't think she's crossed over. Whatever they do there's only so many times they can take out Dirty honey, Gary Clarke Jr and Tyler Bryant. The scrapped covid tour with Smashing pumkins was a good match. But yeah bands like Metallica/Foo figthers co-headlining with GNR makes no sense other if the bands just wanted to tour together despite each losing some money... which isn't impossible, but I think we can rule out Metallica ever touring with GNR again though😄