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  1. Did Axl ever play the piano in estranged live? I thought it was always Dizzy.
  2. If you think there is attention for leaving it out, imagine how much there would be if it was there. A 2018 release using the n-word and the (apparently worst by 2018 PC society) f-word?!?
  3. Whats next for GNR 2018

    Can't argue with this at all. Why Axl would consider doing a cock rock album with Angus Young (it isn't really AC/DC anymore) when one of the main reasons that GNR broke up in the 90's is that Axl didn't want to do cock rock with Slash is beyond comprehension and would be the ultimate insult. Axl filling in as the AC/DC lead singer so they could finish a tour was one thing. Releasing new music with them is a whole other level. I guess on explanation if it happened is that Axl would rather do that because if it isn't well received he can just blame it on being written by Angus and he just sang what was stuck in front of him. With GNR, he'd have to take responsibility for what gets recorded.
  4. The verse seems to be about when he was leaving Indiana. Remember that he said he had to leave because the cops were going to arrest him for something. It seems that the verse is about being at a bus stop and trying to get his ticket quickly and get the hell out of there. "Don't need no bracelets, clamped in front of my back" is about not getting arrested. It's an interesting lyrical way of saying it but when the police arrest somebody they clamp the handcuffs (bracelets) on with your hands behind you. "In front of my back" is another way to say behind me. I don't think he was conflating them, more like both of them were in the way of him leaving. The police literally and the guys harassing him and trying to sell him things were slowing him down from getting his bus ticket so he could leave. The next offensive verse seems to be the arrival in LA. In the big city he sees a million times the number of immigrants than he would have seen in Lafayette and probably close to the same multiple of non-closeted gay people. These two groups make him uncomfortable.
  5. What type of radio stations are giving it airplay? Classic rock format or modern music stations?
  6. One thing is for sure. Axl knew that he was going to create controversy. This is based on the "that's right" after the n-word and the way he says "that's right." Almost like he was saying, "yeah, I said that. What are you going to do about it?"
  7. It was 100x more OK back then than it is now. There was a hit song that used the word twice as much with a video that was played a ton on MTV. The "spread some fucking disease" line is understandable in the context of 1988. AIDS was only discovered a few years earlier and it was still seen as a disease spread by gay men. The original, official name for AIDS was GRID. It stood for Gay Related Immunodeficiency. Even though IV drug users were known to be at risk, the "atmosphere" back then was that the straight junkies got it from sharing needles with gay junkies. Blood transfusion cases were also assumed to have originated with gay donors. It wasn't until Magic Johnson announced he was HIV+ in 1991 that people started to see it as a heterosexual issue as well. Even in 2014 (from CDC data), 70% of HIV infections were gay and bisexual men.
  8. If he would have made the one line "Police and hustlers" instead of using the n-word, the song would have been fine and maybe even gotten a single release. The "immigrants and f****s, they make no sense to me" line isn't really anything that would have been that controversial in 1988. Sure it was a "gay slur" but it wasn't looked at anything like the n-word back then. Like I said earlier, Dire Straits used the word more times in a song that was a hit single. In that verse he was describing his feelings that they "make no sense to him" upon observation when he arrived from a small town into a big city filled with both immigrants and gays. Had Axl changed one word in the whole song, history would be different and it would probably be included in the box set.
  9. There is a great gnr lyric to apply to this thread: "Sometimes I feel like I'm beating a dead horse"
  10. Who re-did the guitar parts since Slash's girlfriend said that he didn't? Buckethead? Why does everyone refuse to believe that it is a reprocessed/remastered version of an old demo? Don't you think if any of it was new that they would promote that to sell more downloads/drive more views? Axl's voice sounds basically the same as the old Hollywood Rose demos. The "female" backing vocals sound just like Duff on WTTJ.
  11. ^This. Slash can play a SFMKC show on Friday and a GNR show on Saturday or Sunday. It's not like he needs to spend days rehearsing in between.
  12. Also, at the time, AIDS was still relatively new and was still seen as a "gay disease" by many people. That perception didn't really change until Magic Johnson announced he was HIV+ in 1991 (I think). In reality, the entire outrage about the song is because of the N-word. "Money for Nothing" uses the word "f-word;" more times and that is still played on classic rock radio stations. Mark Knopfler always defended it as being a 3rd person kind of thing because he wrote the lyrics overhearing somebody but the song is sung in the first person just like OIAM. "We got to install microwave ovens..." identifies the singer as the person in the story. As for the song lyrics, the structure isn't all that brilliant. Axl switches up the order of things that go together I assume to get rhymes to make sense. In the "Police and N's" get out of my way verse, the "don't need to buy none of your gold chains today" goes with the second group mentioned while "don't need no bracelets, clamped in front of my back" goes with the first (an interesting way to say I don't need to get arrested). In the "Immigrants and Fs" verse it is the opposite where the first thing mentioned "they come to our country..." refers to the first group. Then it goes back to the first group with the "talk so many god damn ways" line.
  13. Exactly. It's like he was writing it to shock people into saying that those thoughts were wrong. He even ends it with "radicals and racists, don't point your fingers at me" to say not to use him to justify their thoughts. Hell, he was in a band with a half black lead guitarist, he idolized Freddie Mercury and Elton John and the band manager and label head were Jewish. He couldn't have really had those beliefs by the time he wrote the song.
  14. I don't think it was Slash's "immigrant background" that caused the issue. More likely his half black background caused him to have somewhat of an issue with the "n-word" being used in the song, in a non-flattering context.
  15. Steven Tyler could re-record a song from 30 or 40 years ago and have it sound very similar. He might not be able to hit the highest notes live these days but overall his voice sounds the same on most songs. More impressive since he just turned 70.
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