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  1. Locomotive

    Cool moments from this song that kind of don't have anything to do with the music. From the Gibbo vid, I liked the following: 1) Frank's reaction during the last 2 seconds of the song. Seemed happy that they pulled it off, and also relieved, and also like he had fun playing it too. 2) From 5:35-6:01 Slash looks like his feet are in concrete. He looks like one of those animatronics at Chuck E. Cheeses. And I don't mean this in a negative way, I just thought it was noteworthy because it shows how much concentration and focus he (and presumably the rest of the band) had to put in to pull off a song of this caliber that they haven't played in close to 30 years. 3) The smile/smirk Duff has on his face from 1:22-1:27 appeared to me like he couldn't believe they were actually playing this song. Almost like disbelief it was actually happening, but happy it was. 4) From 2:05-2:10 it almost looks like Duff is smiling again, but trying to make eye contact with Axl almost like "Dude, I can't believe we're playing this right now!" Anyway, just my interpretation of some of the moments outside of the music. Pretty cool to see. Probably won't have a live moment like that again with GNR. Only other moments that were similar were when they played Coma in 2016 and Estranged in 2011.
  2. Anyone else think the "ooh oohhhs" in Quicksong seem extremely out of place? The vocal line seems fine, but definitely not the "Ohhs". Hope those get dropped.
  3. True, the outro could be tighter. But I actually think the last 5-7 seconds were awesome. The way they ended in sync with the "Heeyy Heys" was great. Overall, I'd give it a 7.5/10 but I think they can realistically get it to 9/10. Only thing preventing a 10/10 is Axl just not being able to deliver with as much power as needed in some spots.
  4. After a few weeks of soaking in the new leaks (with Axl), I'd say Atlas is my favorite. Especially that first verse...really makes the song for me. Maybe more complete/reworked versions of Hard School or SOG could become better, but as they stand, Atlas is my favorite. I like the way Axl sings in Perhaps, but I don't really like the melody; there's something I can't put my finger on. It's very boy band-y.
  5. Glad this electronica stuff never saw the light of day. Sheesh. Hard pass. I don't care if there are no guitars on this...no amount of guitars would ever make this good.
  6. I hear what you’re saying and pretty much agree. Would it have made for an inconsistent album if the trilogy and KOHD were produced as they were, but then produce and mix the rockers with a more AFD sound? Wonder how that would have affected the overall sound of the albums. Has any band ever produced songs differently on the same album before? Hell, I don’t know if it’s the production or what, but in terms of consistency ChiDem sounds so inconsistent. Twat, IRS, Catcher all sound incredibly dated, yet you have songs like Better, Shackler’s, and Sorry that all sound much more modern. As we now know, all of those songs were written in the same era yet they sound like they were from completely different eras on the final album!
  7. The intro on Devious Bastard sounds like it came off of Death Magnetic, then it sounds like it came off of Ain't Life Grand once the bass kicks in.
  8. This may be true on a music level. But in terms of popularity and grabbing the attention of the mass public, certainly not. I don't think there's any arguing the success NR, DC, KOHD, YCBM had when they were released. If it wasn't for the production, I don't think these songs become as popular as they did.
  9. Right now I'm listening to the Hell Revisited tracks (for those who don't know, basically just a bunch of demos) and it occurred to me that the production on the UYI albums helped propel GNR into one of the biggest bands in the world, at the time. It is the opinion of many that the UYI albums are overproduced and over-bloated. While I can see that arguement (YCBM sometimes sounds too "glossy" to me), I also think it was required. Not only required, but it actually helped the songs. I just listened to the Don't Cry and November Rain demos, and while we all know these songs are good at the demo level, they were definitely not hits. Even if produced like AFD, I don't think these songs, or the other big hits from the UYIs would have been as popular as they became. Yes, we all love a more raw and energetic version of the band, but I don't think GNR would have become as huge as they did if UYI was produced like AFD. The songs on UYI NEEDED to be produced the way they were to showcase they grandiosity or epicness, for a lack of a better word. Like many others, I'd love to hear a less produced version of the album someday. However, the point I'm making is I don't think a lesser produced album would have made the band as big as they became after UYIs were released.
  10. Question, why does everyone hate DJ so much? Is it about his look and his phony stage act? Because if so, I understand that. But if we're judging on phony stage acts look no further than Fortus. If we're judging on looks, look no further than Bucket or pre-2006 Finck. I'm not saying I'm a DJ fan boy, but here's what I thought he brought to the band, in order of importance: 1) He brought the solos BACK. Before DJ every single solo from the AFD and UYI songs was just a bunch of wanking and nobody played the solos right. When DJ joined, they FINALLY started playing the solos the way they should be. 2) He brought some sloppy/sleazy/bluesy playing back into the band. Finck kind of did this, but I wouldn't call his playing bluesy, mostly just sloppy haha. 3) He brought a stage presence that I think the pink-hat fans liked. He actually interacted with the audience. 4) It seemed like him and Axl really got along well and you could tell on stage. Axl definitely favored playing with DJ over Bumble or Fortus. Just some food for thought. Again, I'm no DJ fan boy, but I also don't get the complete hate for him. (He did look like a tool though)
  11. Love the vocal melody on Nothing. Not keen on the music though.
  12. All of these instrumentals sound very...2000's (Korn, Limp Bizkit, etc.). They are not timeless in my opinion. I know a lot of you like these, and that's fine, but I think they're very copy catish. Sounds like they were just copying the trends of the time: industrial meets rap-rock. I'll listen to just about anything with Axl's vocals on it, but this stuff isn't really my cup of tea. It actually is making me appreciate ChiDem so much more, and I already was a big fan of that album.
  13. Who listened to all 20 takes??
  14. I like the Pretty Tied Up thing going on in the intro to Oklahoma.
  15. This just made me think of something. Does anyone think maybe Axl released, collectively, his B+ material for Chinese Democracy? The reason why would be because he knew that with all the hype and time it took to release CD it would never live up to expectations? He could have released the best songs in the word and it wouldn't have matter. So, he let's CD take the punches with good - not great - material. Then on the 2nd and 3rd releases, unleash all the A+ stuff? Certainly possible.
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