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  1. The "New Album" Thread

    Who knows when those vocals were laid down? I believe Zutaut was removed from the project in early 2002. In an article in I believe Classic Rock it was stated that the final straw was Axl showing up to what he was told was a private screening of black hawk down and finding that the screening was not private. WTTJ was featured in the film and Zutaut had assured Axl he would be getting a private viewing. When he showed up and found other people there Axl freaked out and fired Zutaut. That movie came out in December of 2001. Now I would imagine there were many problems leading up to this moment but this incident pushed Axl over the edge. Now given that these instrumentals were completed in 1999-2000 it doesn’t seem unreasonable that vocals for some of the aforementioned tracks could have been recorded in 2001 and could have been in Zutaut’s possession. Remember the original plan back in the day had been to drop CD and drop another completed album shortly thereafter. Axl spoke about this in late 2002. I doubt he would have mentioned this if both albums were not near completion. We always assumed the vocals for songs like Soul Monster were laid down in the mid 2000s but that was never confirmed anywhere. They were most likely were completely in 2000-2001. Now others songs such has seven, the general, ect...may have been completed a bit later as we know Beltrami worked on these in 2003 and commented on them as if he heard them in near finished fashion. The greatest shame is that the majority of hardcore fans have heard none of this shit. At this point what was the fucking point? @axlrosefan4life feel free to chime in. But my guess is that I’m pretty fucking spot on.
  2. Looking at that post is so crazy. March 27th 2000. Just sitting on a shelf for 20 years. 20 years later there is a 20 page thread about it that would have been 40-50 pages 10 years ago. What a waste.
  3. Very True. SOG and Hard School should have replaced Riad and scraped. I wished they never would have changed catcher. The village version is so much better.
  4. It’s such powerful fucking song. 100% should have been on CD. If we would have gotten a fully finished version of this instead of scraped all of us die hard would have been blown away. And CD would been so much better
  5. I think Chinese Democracy could have had Atlas on it if not for all the super long intros. The one on Riad is so dumb just like the song Riad. I still 12 years later cannot believe Riad and Scraped made the final album. They are both such garbage tracks.
  6. Nice! It’s always been clear to me that he is singing clearly defined lyrics. I never thought they were scratch vocals.
  7. To add to your point maybe Hard School was always going to be the lead single to the follow up to Chinese and the fact that it leaked did not change that plan. Going back to 2006 when DJ Raz got a copy of that track management completely freaked out and demanded it be returned immediately. They also bribed DJ Raz with backstage access to Hammerstein and then reneged on the deal once they got the copy of Hard School back in their possession. It’s a catchy rocker that’s built for radio (which doesn’t matter anymore) and it has a very classic guns feel to it. I think that people who are expecting a lot of newly written material on the next guns release are going to be disappointed. I would expect a lot of reworked material from the Chinese era which will probably be awesome.
  8. Would it not have made sense to release Hard School as a single before its live debut? If they are going to play it it’s most likely the lead single to something.
  9. Mexico is not going to handle the corona virus well. But of course their culture of corruption is going to let this festival go on as if nothing is wrong
  10. If a new Guns record drops at midnight it confirms that the world is actually ending.
  11. The "New Album" Thread

    I’m not sure if an exact tracklist was ever mentioned. I believe certain songs were mentioned including Cuban Skies, Soul Monster, The General, Seven, and Ides of March.
  12. L' Arc 2010

    That’s what I thought. I caught my flight home the morning after Bercy. Did you miss train after the show? The showed ended at like 1150 and we were strolling to the train start and a bunch of people came running past us. And my wife was like why are all these people running? We found out 2 mins later when we just barely missed the last train. We ended up walking around for over an hour before we finally found a cab.
  13. L' Arc 2010

    L’ARC was the day after Bercy correct? Because I was in Paris for the Bercy show and caught a flight the next morning to go home. And I remember being upset I couldn’t go to L’ARC. Do I have the timeline right?