Arnuld

The Chinese Era needs to end already. It has been going on since 1997. It’s exhausting to think we are still waiting for songs from 20 years ago. Just release whatever is left and move on.  

CD is a weird song. The intro is long and weird, the guitar riff sounds like 1994 grunge, the drum sound is lifted from smells like teen spirit (on purpose mind you) and the lyrics are weird. Now I don’t mind any of this but this song had no business being a single especially a lead single. It should have been Better which is really the only CD song with any pop appeal. Having CD as the lead single would be like having Absurd be the lead single for CD2……Oh wait that actually happened too…..

5 minutes ago, invisible_rose said:

Very well put. Chinese Democracy is criminally underrated almost entirely because people see it as "GNR without Slash". If it was its own standalone album, even just Axl Rose, I think it would be considered a modern classic. Maybe I'm bias, I dunno, but I listen to way more CD/CDII material now than the OG era. 

I listen to the modern era more as well. I just enjoy the more modern flourishes. I like the hip hop elements, drum loops, synths ect…I understand that many people hate this and consider it trend chasing and not very “GNR” but I like the complexity 

21 minutes ago, DeNfr said:

fan since 1989 here, and I think it's one of their best. 
I'm incredibly proud of these last singles, + Monsters. 
proud to be a real GNR fan. 

I think what most old school fans struggle with is separating the early work from Axl’s modern work. It’s two completely different entities. While the CD work has elements of the previous work it’s not the same thing. Not the same band, not the same style. If CD was a brand new album by a brand new artist it would be considered one of the most ambitious and best debut albums of all time. Same with the follow up singles that comprise CD2. It’s the connection to the previous history that makes the mind think this music is bad when in reality most of it is quite good. 

3 hours ago, ToonGuns said:

I find UYI pretty iconic. Personal view of course.

I love the UYI covers. So cool. Fit the album title so well. Use your Illusion is such a great album title. The Alt CD covers were pretty cool as well. Especially the grenade cover. The Best Buy CD cover looks like it’s printed off an early 2000s inkjet. 
 

The single covers are extremely mediocre. The Perhaps 8 ball is by far the best. The Hard Skool cover is so cheesy. Just like that dumb school bell. I don’t know how they managed to make a pretty cool rocker into queso city. 

I guess they had to spend the logo money to pay off Kat. It looks like Fernando’s 3rd cousin from Brazil who moonlights as a graphic designer came up with that artwork. 

4 minutes ago, hpantazo said:

I'm betting it won't even be released tonight

Of course it won’t. Nothing gets released early ever with this band. I’m not that excited. Unless the digital release is 7 mins long 

2 minutes ago, BillConnor_1982 said:

I bet it’s exactly the same as the leaked version.  Everyone has convinced themselves the leak isn’t the final mix just because they don’t like the mix.  

It will be exactly the same. Everyone will get to experience Caram’s terrible mixing in full lossless quality lol

23 minutes ago, DarkLotus1111 said:

I agree. It's still a great song, but far from some epic ballad. Also regarding Sebastian Bach's comment on "The General". I get the feeling he might have heard a completely different song. Maybe he heard "Seven" and confused it with "The General"? 

He may have been confused. It’s just disappointing that this “mythical” song we have all been waiting 15 years to hear ended up being just a basic 4 min album filler type track. Soul Monster is good (better than the general) but I would not call it “a big gun” by any means. (Accept for the bridge. That’s big gun) 

Also The General being the Sequel to Estranged is one the most ridiculous things that Axl has ever said. I cannot even imagine how those two songs relate in his mind. His Brain must be like one of those police investigation walls with strings connecting seemingly unrelated events or people. 

I still can’t believe The General is not a 7-8 min epic. I don’t hate it but it is nothing like I expected it to be 

5 minutes ago, Miden34 said:

does anyone have the new higher quality one!! i missed this!!

It’s not really any different. Just a rip off a radio station 

Ok got to hear it. Only difference is the bass. It’s definitely more thumpy for lack of a better word. Also it seems like the strings are a bit higher in the mix. I actually like the added bass. The biggest disappointment with this song is that it doesn’t have a ton of orchestra. In my mind it would because of how long and dramatic the string arrangements used to be before the shows would start back in the day

Can’t listen to the Japan Radio thing. It’s says you have to be in Japan. Did anyone rip it? 

3 minutes ago, colonizedmind said:

We were told that was delayed until early next year apparently 😝

GNR posted about it in the aftermath of the delay

After seeing the totally bloodbath of pissed off fans. They said they weren't happy with the mix and that they finally had it in a place they were happy with but it was too late to make Oc 27th....they never normally say anything silence is golden...so this was unexpected move by them 

I think all that was just bullshit to placate a bunch of pissed off fans 

8 minutes ago, colonizedmind said:

But we know it wasn't the final mix, the horses mouth told us....unless we're presumed that was a lie? But then why miss the release date if they didn't care about the mix and it's the same...

Who said it was not the final mix? 

18 hours ago, PatrickS77 said:

And your point is? Have you met and dealt with him before?? If not, you're a stranger to him. What did you expect? That he rolls out the red carpet for you, because you're staying at the same hotel? At least he assumed he would see you at the party. Your fault you didn't ask what party.

Dude Fuck off. Someone asked if anyone had met Fernando. I just told my experience. I didn’t say whether he was good or bad I just told exactly what happened. I didn’t expect anything from anyone. 

55 minutes ago, adamsapple said:

Maybe there's people on here who actually met and interacted with Fernando and observed him interacting with others on one occasion or another?

Just a thought, not saying the poster you refer to did because I don't know.

 

I met him in Vegas in 2011. I tried to be cordial and say what’s up. He was staying my floor a few rooms down from me so it was just me and him in the hallway. He kind of just brushed me off. I was being pretty chill because you know whatever. He said he would see me later at the party but I had no idea WTF he was talking about. 

2 minutes ago, WhazUp said:

I get what you are saying, I just think at this point in time I don't know if I would feel confident going "hell hath no fury like a photographer scorned" nearly as much as I would simply believing that an attractive woman at a workplace within the entertainment industry was sexually harassed by a dude in a position of power

Of course I am on the side of, let's see all the facts - but I am already seeing too many people here quick to just dismiss Kat's claims (one poster earlier flat out said "I don't believe here") and that is mindboggling to me

Also some of her claims were incredibly specific and really bizarre. (Like the monkey thing lol) that is not the kind of thing most people just make up. And if she still has those texts of Fernando sending her porn…..He’s toast. 

3 hours ago, Voodoochild said:

Apparently, the Instagram had no problems with my cover?

https://www.instagram.com/p/Czj0kx1iyWf/

Impressive

Did the version we have even have guitars? It always sounded like Axl singing over electronic stuff

10 hours ago, bumcheecksmcghee said:

Agree with you there. Question is though, changed the song for the better or worse though? 🤔 

It’s impossible to say. The clip is so short and muffled. 

50 minutes ago, Miden34 said:

yeah ive never actually heard myself. I am REALLY curious about the diffrenences 

It’s pretty hard to hear. It’s not a very clear recording. It was obviously recorded off a 2000s era cell phone. You can make out the structure of the sound and some of the guitars and vocals but it’s muffled and people are talking over it. From what I can hear they certainly changed the song quite a bit with the Slash and Duff re-record.