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According to set list fm the two new songs were played

2 minutes ago, Slugworth said:

 

[GNR] was sort of just work for hire. [...] I met with Axl and he played me these songs, asked me my ideas about them, and I told him what I thought they needed. They gave me four songs to orchestrate. [...] A song called 'Seven,' which is the one [...] I actually wrote a guitar part [on]. There was one called 'Thyme,' one called 'The General,' one called 'Leave Me Alone.'" (Marco Beltrami, IGN, 07/20/03)

 

 

The bridge in "Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul aka The Soul Monster (working title Leave Me Alone)" which will no doubt end up "Soul Monster".

I think it's our most Black Sabbath moment. Sang it on a Christmas eve. Imo the meanest section of anything I've sung to date. Which having said that I'm sure when it's heard others may disagree but we felt it was a Christmas card of unadulterated venom so to speak. I felt a lot better afterward. (Axl Rose , Here Today... Gone to Hell Forum, Dec. 2008)

Anyone doubting Monsters is Soul Monster just listen to that bridge. 

1 minute ago, Sweersa said:

Nothing against Evader at all, his work was amazing, but you can hear the same “ooooo ooooo” in the party clip as I’ve said for a while now.

I wish we could get confirmation on whether or not Soul Monster is Monsters. I suppose we could try asking management or band members. 

It has to be Soul Monster. I cannot imagine another song having a meaner bridge than that. It’s exactly how Axl described it in the chats in 2008. 

5 minutes ago, WhazUp said:

And the ironic thing to me is, it really isn't even that far away from Slash's stylistic wheelhouse.  A song like Monsters could have easily been a Velvet Revolver song with Scott singing in that lower vocal style and Matt laying down an acoustic drum beat like Slither's intro over it

A lot of this song and something like Perhaps sounds like stuff Slash and Axl could have released in 1998 if they stayed together long enough.  Same with Street of Dreams, This I Love, CITR, etc.

So far Slash has added so much stuff back into GNR that blends the two eras together and to me it works well

Could not agree more. The guitar playing on Monsters (especially the 2nd half) is very reminiscent of Slash’s best work with VR. I wish Slash had been more open to adding some modernity to GNR back in the 90s. I thought all the loops, drum machines, and synths on CD were really cool and made the sound overall very unique on that album. It’s a shame so much time was wasted but I’m so glad we are getting this now. As always I hope there is more to come. Dying to hear what Slash does with Atlas. 

I really appreciate what Axl was going for in the whole Chinese era. Progressing the GNR sound forward. Trying new things. Being Bold. Being extremely personal almost to a fault. Chinese just should have been an epic double album. 

1 minute ago, GNR123GNR456 said:

The General is everything is envisioned would be a Slash/Duff redone song from the NuGN'R era. The beat, orchestra, plus Slash's guitar. Bring's me back to first hearing Chinese Democracy in 2008. 

Monsters is undoubtedly Soul Monster, and sound's mean as fuck and fantastic. Sound almost Marilyn Manson like, the verse atleast. And that bridge! Axl wasn't kidding about it being the "meanest section of anything I've sung to date." 

Overall, this is exactly how I envisioned reworked NuGN'R song's featuring Slash and Duff would be. I know Hard School and Perhaps are the clear radio hit's, but these song's are fill with much more anger and heart. 

I can’t get over that the cell phone recording of the party is not actually the general but monsters (soul monster) 

1. ABSURD

2. HARD SKOOL

3. PERHAPS 

4. THE GENERAL

5. MONSTERS (SOUL MONSTER)

6. atlas

7. seven (;)

8. tonto

9. sog

10. light my fire

11. cuban skies

They should just drop the rest of these tracks and put this era to an amazing close. 
 

Just now, uzi your illusion said:

These few and far between days are really as good as the forum ever gets

 

Savor it boys and girls

It’s like Christmas if Santa only came every 15 yrs

1 minute ago, Propaganda said:

F***!! How good are those!

Honestly I would risk to say that this is better than anything on Chinese Democracy, including Hard Skool, Absurd and Perhaps. This is on another level!

I liked "Monsters" the most. Could this be "Soul Monster", "Monstrosity" or "Elvis Presley & the Monster of Soul"?? After all, this is the intro to the shows (and not The General), unless it was all one piece at one time.

The General is great too. Both songs are really strong! But stand out for Axl's crazy 90s like vocals on "Monsters", sounded like 28 years old Axl again!

I believe monsters is definitely soul monster. The way Axl goes off so hard on the bridge is exactly how he described his Venom Christmas Card in 2008. 

Just now, bangit said:

The General has some buried vocals like Oh My God. Deliberate, not a poor mix. This 9 min beast is not one for radio or for casual fans. It has far more to it than that.

I hoped for something on the scale of TWAT/Prostitute. This is certainly up there, already holding its own. Epic. 

Yes this is not for the radio or casual fans. 

1 minute ago, D.. said:

I think so too.

Me & My elvis must be something else. The melody of Elvis never fitted what I felt when thinking of "Soul Monster". "Monsters" exactly feels like "Soul Monster". I think it's my favorite.

It’s an absolute banger. I love it so much 

Monsters has to be soul monster. The Bridge is our Black Sabbath moment fits the bridge of that song for sure. Cannot believe that cell phone recording was in fact Monsters (Soul Monster IMO) and not the general. I swear this is like Christmas for a hardcore GNR fan. 

2 minutes ago, Gunner55 said:

Just poured the last of my good tequila for the first official listen (Kirkland tequila. Can't get in Canada where I am so it's the good stuff to me).

Ive spent since what, 2007? I was 16. That's half my life. And I'm listening to it. Finally. Holy shit. 

I love it. It's nothing like I expected, but wow. I understand the B-side choice. I don't see casual fans accepting this. But I'm in love. I hope it's the slash version, cuz I feel the chorus of the general could sound like recent Axl, but it's entirely possible I just want to hear things. 

It was a long afternoon. I had them saved on my phone within 5 minutes of them leaking (got extremely lucky on checking), but I wasn't gunna let my first listen be through a phone speaker in the office. Glad I waited. 

Fuck this band. They show promise, let me down, I swear up and down to myself I'm over it, and they rope me back in. I'm ready for another round of disappointment and frustration. 

This shit is not for casual fan. This is like a 2020s version of The Garden and Coma

This is the Greatest day. The General and Monsters (soul monster) unreal 

Man The General is so dark….

Monsters has got to be soul monster. The way Axl goes for it on the bridge is exactly what he described in those chats in 2008. 

They are real!!!!! Amazing!!!  What a turn of events!!!! 

6 minutes ago, Slugworth said:

Imagine the Stones being managed by Mick Jagger's nanny.

Hahahaha that just put it in perspective. 
 

This has the world’s most simple fix- just put the track on Streaming in the next week. Everyone calms down and people who still want the physical media can purchase it. A vinyl exclusive was the dumbest thing ever to begin with. 

Ok so what round are we on now?….

I cancelled my order. I will never understand why this band can never operate normally no matter who is managing it. Oh that’s right because Axl owns the band. He is like the Daniel Synder, Donald Sterling, and James Dolan of Rock. 
 

This is gotta be what it feels like to be a Knicks fan. 

This is incredibly disappointing. Just Classic Axl. Nothing can ever be released on time. And I love how they waited to the last possible minute to announce the delay. They had to know this was happening weeks ago. 

12 minutes ago, vloors said:

Simply more people know who Slash is. More people prefer the albums released with Slash. More people attend the shows to see Slash with Axl than any newgnr guitarist when they were around. 

Majority want to hear slash and his style on newly released singles not some forgotten newgnr guitarists.

Axl if he had some intergrity would be recording all new tracks with the band.

Also early Robin and Bucket were an absolute freak show in person. Great guitarists but weird as fuck to look at. 
 

46 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

Nah, hardcore fans should know better than to give them money for toy trucks, children's books, candles, temporary tattoos, wildly overpriced reissues, and all the other shit they put out.

But yea, the hardcore fan base has dwindled over time, and been made irrelevant by the sea of casuals filling the stadiums or simply checking out because this band isn't very interesting. On the other hand, this is a band with so few albums that they don't really have deep cuts in the way the Stones, Aerosmith, etc. have deep cuts, I heard plenty of people singing/cheering for songs like Bad Obsession and Pretty Tied Up at the Vancouver show. There's people who only know the hits and people who know most of their songs, there's not a lot of middle ground when you only have a few albums.

I guess I meant buying box sets, vinyl ect….not the garbage team Brazil puts out like toy trucks ect…