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5 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said:

Okay reunion- GNR is definitely way more popular, but more than 50-100 can name a NuGNR guitar player out of 30-40k. GNR still has a big hardcore fanbase

Actually I don’t think it does anymore. Hardcore means posting on message boards, Reddit, FB. Buying everything, deep knowledge of the whole CD era. I feel like that part of the fan base has dwindled dramatically over the last 20ys primarily due to lack of new material. 

1 hour ago, Litti said:

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What is this supposed to be? I cannot imagine GNR ever putting out anything with Chinese Characters ever again lol

1 minute ago, DarkLotus1111 said:

I wouldn't know much about record vinyl stuff. I was just wondering. 

I rather wait for a digital mp3, just my opinion haha

I know nothing about Vinyl lol

Still says 26th on website but my order confirmation said 27th. 

2 minutes ago, Coma16 said:

This makes sense. The song is controversial, and Hollywood has strong ties to pedophilia, so best to wait a week so ticket sales aren't affected.

Hahaha you cannot be serious lol

1 minute ago, DarkLotus1111 said:

Which record player brand did you get?

 Not sure but it is 4.4 stars with 4000 reviews on Amazon. I’m sending it back if we get a super clean vinyl rip

2 minutes ago, bangit said:

I may do the same 🤣

I also just bought a 40$ record player. I don’t want to hear this thing in terrible quality 

I went and bought the damn vinyl just in case it doesn’t hit streaming. I went ahead and paid for express shipping. It still said it ships on the 27th. 

1 minute ago, evilfacelessturtle said:

Sorry, I missed "remix", I thought you were talking about the album version. The remix sounds more like 2010, it's got that more forced rasp where he's kind of holding his breath.

All good. 0% chance Axl put that much effort into an alternate vocal take for a remix album in 2010. 

1 minute ago, Illusion1987 said:

Which song are you talking about? Hard to keep up in this thread. 

TIL

4 minutes ago, evilfacelessturtle said:

Nah, definitely late '90s at least. You can hear it in the highs, it's thin like on Live Era. Also, they were on tour in 1993.

But he goes full rasp for the entirety of the vocal track on that remix which he hasn’t done since the early 90s. Even the overdubs on the live era are pretty clean by comparison. 
 

And yes they were on tour in 93 but The Spaghetti Incident was recorded at some point that year. 

6 minutes ago, estrangedtwat said:

I don't "hate" it, but it was such a colossal letdown I'll never really "love" it.

I'm perfectly aware a lot of people DO love it....I'm not starting an argument or anything.

 

Just built it up so much in my mind all those years, and it was just........ugh.

Two questions one for you and one for everyone else-

1. Do you like the Brain Remix any better than the CD version?

2. Are we 100% sure that vocal take on the Remix is not from 1993? Most people assume it was from around 2010 during Axl’s vocal resurgence. But it sounds much more like Early 90s Axl to my ears. 

7 minutes ago, estrangedtwat said:

Careful what you wish for.

From 1993-2008 the one song in the universe I wanted to hear more than anything else was This I Love.

Axl said it was the "heaviest thing he'd ever written."

I fantasized about it.  Was it gonna be like Estranged on steroids??  I even asked Axl about the song when I met him in 2002.

All those years of longing and wondering finally came to an end in November of 2008, and I heard the song for myself for the first time.....

And I almost cried.  Not out of joy.  But because the song fucking sucked.  It was a crushing letdown.  Just the most over the top, melodramatic, Andrew Lloyd Webber bullshit.  I know some people like it, and I wanted to like it, but I just can't lie to myself.  The song SUCKS.

I wish I'd never have heard it.  It was better when it only existed in my imagination.

Man that must have sucked so bad dude. I always figured it was going to be an emotional piano ballad in the same vein as November Rain and Estranged. I did not expect it to be Axl does Broadway. That being said I don’t hate it. I think the harp is a really interesting element for a Guns song and Robin’s solo is fantastic. 

17 minutes ago, Appetitefordiscussion said:

It’s more about Slash then vs Slash now.
 

to be fair, I can understand why reworking CD era songs might be sort of uninspired work 

I know it probably will not happen but I would love to see what Slash, Richard, and Duff could write for Guns. It can’t be easy trying to interpret and rework songs written by others while still staying true to the original songs but keeping your own style. 

10 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

It must be painful for Axl, who has probably painstakingly perfected these songs over decades, to have Slash shit out guitar work and paste them into the mixes. Maybe Axl cares less, because he has the golden mixes with Buckethead and Robin slated for a special release, or just for his own personal enjoyment. 

Do you not like any of Slash’s work? Or just the CD stuff? Because his guitar is the musical vortex of all the iconic songs. Without which there would have been no CD or Nu Guns to compare him to. 

9 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said:

I just realized, who cares when Perhaps was mentioned? The songs out, lol

People just need something to argue about to pass the time. Getting the general is like getting a mini album and it’s making everyone a little crazy lol

I can’t wait till something leaks so we can stop discussing whether or not Perhaps was a known song title prior to 2019. The arguments that start while waiting for something to happen are hilarious though🍿

1 hour ago, BucketEgg said:

could any of you have seen this apparent list on one of those other gnr forums that have gone defunct? or were you frequenting the forums that are active now back then as well?

My go to forum back in the day was chinesedemocracy.com. It is now defunct. I’m certain that email list was around back in 2011-2012 when all those documents got leaked. 

1 minute ago, estrangedtwat said:

When did we first hear "Perhaps" mentioned as song title?

I don't remember ever hearing of it before the locker leaks.

It was on that email that leaked with the subject head CD2 with a bunch of song titles. 

125 pages and not one second has been heard yet. This has to be a record for the most discussion about a song we have not heard. I bet other artists don’t get 125 pages for a brand new album lol. Man we are starved as a fan base. 

6 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

You're basically saying it's impossible for a song to go to a different section that sounds nothing like the one before. Have you heard GNRs catalogue? I can give you atleast 10 examples where songs have gone into parts that you would have never seen coming if you only heard a minute of the song.

It has happened before that songs have been abandoned and parts of it were taken and used on other songs EOY and HS. SOG sounds just like what Sebastian Bach described about The General, so if SOG was indeed abandoned it would make sense to use work done on that song on something else to not waste it. 

Breakdown comes to mind……

10 minutes ago, NeonKinight said:

I also think that Buckethead is playing a modified version of The General here... this and "black sabbath" are as similar as petrol and water.

Bucket is such a weird fucking genius 

12 minutes ago, estrangedtwat said:

I can't speak for others, but the reason I'm concerned it's State of Grace is cause GNR haven't released anything that we haven't heard leaked since Sorry, TIL, and Scraped.  In 2008.

Also, Baz's descriptions are notoriously vague and shitty, but the way he described The General could also apply to SOG.

Considering how often the working titles changed, it's not unreasonable to theorize that the song that was originally known as State of Grace in 1999 could eventually evolve into what Baz heard as The General in 2006.

It will be a massive disappointment if it’s just a redone SOG. It’s been so long since we have heard anything fresh

I know to some this can feel like “the end of an era” but the reality is if the General is the last release this year we have only gotten about 1/3 of CD2. 
 

1. ABSURD

2. HARD SKOOL

3. PERHAPS

4. THE GENERAL

5. atlas shrugged 

6. state of grace

7. seven

8. oklahoma

9. cuban skies

10. quick song

11. soul monster

12. zodiac 

That is A LOT of meat still on the CD2 bone. And this is just the other shit we assume has vocals. There may be a few more we don’t know about.