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  1. The whining thread

    I'll probably be roasted for this but oh well... I'm a 31 year old male...and the issue I'm going to whine about is feeling ugly...I've felt ugly throughout my entire life..between being picked on as a kid throughout school and all the way through college. Being told I'm ugly by other kids, colleagues, "friends", family members and of course girls... I've been turned on by a number of girls in my life and the most common excuse I'd hear is being "you're not my type" or "you're ugly" or "I like you as a friend" or "you've got a wonderful personality but..." Those who do care about me have said the same...that I've got a great personality and thats what makes me attractive...or I'll hear the line of..."attractiveness isn't everything or its not that important" to my response to that is...if beauty or attractiveness isn't important, then why do we admire sunsets and say they are beautiful? Its natural for people to look at others whom they find attractive....I get no response.. I have dated a handful of women in my life and have had long term great relationships...and without sounding like a douche...but most of the girls I've dated were average looking with only two that were absolute knock outs...where I'd ask...how the fuck did I land a girl like that? Again...I've had friends and exes who've told me that looks aren't everything...but they never had issues with being called ugly throughout their lives...Most of my friends in highschool were girls...so of course they'd go bantering on about who they find cute in movies/tv/music, guys in public, guys in school...saying stuff like "they're so sexy, they're so hott, they get my panties in a twist" and so on...While I'm on the sideline thinking...well..what about me? Aren't I attractive? Do I run through a random strangers mind where they think that of me? Has a woman ever in seen me in public and thought to herself..."wow, he's gorgeous!" I've had a couple guy friends who have been hit on randomly by strangers...I guess I can say that I feel like I'm the ugly friend, lol. I can honestly think of 2 accounts in my life where I was randomly hit on by a stranger and both them were drunk off their asses. I don't know what to do honestly...I've seen therapists about my issues with little to no help...I look at myself in the mirror as I'm getting ready and I think nothing but hateful thoughts about myself and how I look...I really feel like I'm the ugliest person alive...And I know of course other people have it worse than I do, and they are people with legit disfigurements..and I know I'll probably be belittled and roasted to end airing this out on a music forum...I'm just hoping that maybe somebody can shed some light on me....yeah I'm fucked up in the head...they are times where I'll completely not talk to someone or give them the cold shoulder such as a co-worker whom I find attractive simply because when I see them, I think "yep...thats the type of girl who wouldn't give me a time of day in high school and she knows she's pretty" and my job pretty much requires me to be friendly and put on a smile for people, but even then...as I'm greeting my attractive co-workers into the building I work in...they barely look at me and just ignore me as I say hi and good morning to them everyday... Now my issue isn't solely based on how women have treated me over the years...the core issue is me still feeling ugly. As I mentioned I've had a few long lasting good relationships that went on for years. I just like for once to wake up and see myself and say...yeah..I'm a pretty good looking guy...I legitimately feel sick to my stomach when I see myself in the mirror, especially if I'm naked and then I see nothing but flaws within myself and how I look...I look my parents obviously... but my dad was a ladies man in high school and my mother was beating guys away with a stick...so I'm left with wondering how I turned out like this...Sorry for bantering and running on with making little to no sense...Anyway.. OK, let the roasting begin!
  2. Final thoughts on NITL tour

    You're right, we are basically the minority when it comes to going to a show and wanting to hear new material. Basically any casual fans could give two shits less about new material and just want to hear the hits and then take a piss break during a song they don't recognize. I find that to be the case with every band I've seen live. I believe it was either Mic Fleetwood or Stevie Nicks that said "why bother put so much time into releasing new music when people who want to go our shows want to hear the hits....in this day and age..releasing music seems pointless due to live streaming and people downloading music for free....you work hard to make new music for people to just steal it" I can't recall the article where I read it from, but I can totally see their point and I'm sure alot of bands who've been around for a long time, from that generation and on feel the same way. It is really the bands fault for feeding into the nostalgia act? mean it sells tickets, sells out venues...drives up merch...to make money...I remember going to two Metallica concerts in the last decade...both tours they were promoting a new album...St. Anger and Hardwired... to Self-Destruct....the St. Anger tour, they played two songs from that album and the rest was all hits...The Hardwired tour...2-3 songs at most...rest was all hits...Stevie Nicks was probably the only artist I've seen where she was actually performing the majority of the material from her latest album release and throwing a handful of hits as well...however her album she was promoting was a release of older material.... I saw Evanescence last year and they were promoting Synthesis...the show I went to, no new songs, just a collection of their radio hits...I've seen a ton of more bands in the last decade and they all seem to follow that same formula....play the hits...you're lucky if you get a cover tune. I don't blame the band, I blame the fans and the way fans are these days...They prefer the hits over anything new...thus never giving any new material a chance or in Guns case...anything new that comes out pales in to anything on Appetite...therefore its shit and not worth the time of day.
  3. The most common thing I'd hear from people I'd go to school with or talk to people who were teenagers during GN'R's younger days is "They're still around?", Isn't Axl dead or something? I read that on the internet". Even most recently, with the current tour going on I still hear people say "Axl's pretty fat now isn't he", "Axl is such a douchbag", "Axl was on so much drugs back in the day", "Axl is still alive?" I can't say how many times I've tried correcting them that Axl wasn't on drugs, that GN'R was still a band from 99 til now. Most never heard of Chinese Democracy. I get surprised looks when I mention they've been on a reunion tour with the original big three for the last couple years and how they've been selling out football stadiums. Then I hear stuff like "Oh, I love Paradise City", "I love Welcome to the Jungle". During the New GN'R era, most casual fans went along with everyone else with what was being said and considered them to be a joke, even the local rock station here would call them a joke, despite playing the radio hits immediately after. I remember when CD came out and I kept calling the local rock staion and requesting Chinese to be played or Better to be played...out of the dozen times I've called, they played Chinese once. I realize that most of the tickets being sold is bought by casual fans, but I seriously can't stand them sometimes and the ignorance they give off about the band...If you're going to blow that much money...at least know your shit....Don't be fucking screaming "Paradise City" after every song during a show, especially after the first couple songs. I remember the 2nd night I was at Foxborough, this couple standing next to me (probably in their 50s), the guy was very knowledgeable and I could tell he was following how the tour was going based on saying what song was coming next, but the woman he was with, completely unimpressed throughout the show, the only song she liked was November Rain. Then the Boston show I went to last year, a few older women in their 40s was sitting next to me, quiet throughout most of the show, pretty much sitting on their hands until the opening notes of Paradise City started and they screamed "oh yeah, finally!" It blew me away that such a fantastic show has been going on for 3 hours and this was the only thing you get excited about? However on a positive note, after leaving each show...is hearing people talking about how good the band sounded, how good Axl sounded and how it was the best concert they ever attended. I'm pretty much known in my inner circle of friends, rather it be friends from highschool, internet friends, exes, family...whoever, whenever they hear a Guns song, they feel the need to tell me about it and how it reminded them of me. But I'm pretty alone in my fandom...which I'm perfectly ok with.
  4. Yup, I completely get it. Whenever I pop in a bootleg rather if its a dvd or cd of that tour, regardless how Axl sounded on some nights, I end up doing the same thing...just a slow head shake on what could of been.
  5. Final thoughts on NITL tour

    Thats a very solid point about legendary bands that do reunion tours. I'm a huge Fleetwood Mac fan and we've haven't seen new music out of them since 2003. Now they're doing another tour...without Lindsay Buckingham and they're are talks of new music being laid down. But anyways, its a solid point, so many bands in that category tour without new music and just their name alone sells out arenas and stadiums. If the formula works, then why try changing it?
  6. Final thoughts on NITL tour

    Thank you. And yes, new music and promotion is missing. However, I did get a little hyped over the little tease videos that were released of the box set, like the It's So Easy video and the Shadow of Your Love video.
  7. You and I are probably in the minority when it comes to hoping they'd do another arena tour in the US. I'd would go again and I've already seen them 3 times already during this tour.
  8. Motorcycle stool

    Thats disgusting and how true is this? I never heard of this before. The closest I heard of something being done to Axl's piano was Corey Tyler tea bagging the keys before a show that Guns was headlining. I do wonder if the Bike actually was a working bike before it was modified or if it was just simply something that was custom made.
  9. I think that would of been mind blowing to see if that were to ever happen. I remember reading somewhere that Robin has written a few songs that were very Stevie Ray Vaughan like. You'd have to wonder how much he appreciated being able to expand on his guitar playing when he was in Guns. Granted he had moments where he'd butcher a song, but thats the beauty of Guns, they're not meant to be perfect. Just watch any concert video of theirs...pretty much ever. There is always fuck ups at one point or another during a show. I just find it funny now that Robin is seeming to get the recognition on this forum now as opposed back in the 01-06 days, he was being overly criticized. I do wonder though what Slash and Robin could come up with if placed in a studio together, as they say, opposites attract, two different styles of playing, there is a possibility of something organic coming out of the duo. As great as a player Buckethead is, and I love Buckethead as a player, I just thought even during his time with the band, his presence overshadowed most of the band simply because of his outfit and casual fans weren't taking the band to seriously because of it. This show however, seeing the video, I get goosebumps and get a little disappointed as the same time because its an awsome show, the band is tight, Axl sounds great, but I get disappointed on the potential this band could of had if they were given a proper chance and if the VMA performace wasn't a disaster. I honestly think this band could of went somewhere if the 3 albums of music that was mentioned actually got released and if 02 tour actually was successful. I think the tour would of been better ticket sale wise if they started off in a smaller venue like the House of Blues and do the arena's in the Northeast where bands usually do well such as New York and Boston. But thinking back...my curiosity, the thought of all the music that has been recorded that we've yet to hear from this era overwhelms me. Hopefully one day we'll get to hear what was recorded.
  10. I'd much rather have Duff sing It's So Easy than Scott. Scott has his own style of singing and in my opinion, just doesn't fit the style of the song, especially during the high notes of the song. I'd take Axl on Slither anyday, I just perfer he'd use less bass in his voice during the song. I think he's progressively gotten a little better at performing it though and just finding ways to add his own flavor to it.
  11. Final thoughts on NITL tour

    I saw the band three times during this tour. twice at the two nights they were at Foxborough, Ma in 2016 and the third time was when they hit Boston back in 2017. I'm 31 years old, so I was to young to see the band during their younger days. But I've been a die hard fan since I found out about them when I was in my preteen years. Downloading every bootleg I could find. Being just obsessed with the band. So seeing them for the first time after missing the opportunity when they rolled around in 2002 and 2006 was a dream for me. I remember seeing them take stage all three times before starting It's So Easy and just start crying like a baby. Pros: Seeing the major three back together again, the setlist is probably the best it can be considering they are putting on 3 hour plus shows. The band showing up on time. I remember walking into every show I've been to with people talking about how late Axl was going to be despite during the entire tour how they've been on time every time. The stage setup, the video graphics, the pyrotechnics. Just everything all around was pretty near perfect in my opinion. The all around excitement for me personally was overwhelming and even going back and listening to the bootlegs of the shows I attended, I still get teary eyed and get goosebumps. Another Pro is the Box set. Leaving each show and hearing everyone talking as their leaving the venue on how it was best concert they've ever been too and how awesome the band sounded. Cons: No Izzy and Steven, but for me, I'd rather have consistency with reliable players showing up. No new music or band interviews. Con, the price of the box set. My personal thoughts compared to everyone elses. Everyone has a right to their opinion. While I do agree on the disappointment on the lack of new music and band interviews. I am overall satisfied with how this tour turned out. I'm not a member of any other band forum but I have to say GN'R fans on this forum are so damn entitled and seem to love to complain more than actually appreciate what we got. We had nothing going on with this band since 93 if you're not counting the New GNR era. People bitching about the setlist, the length of the show, how "bad" Axl voice sounds, bitching about the druming, bitching about Richard's playing. I remember during the New GNR days, people were not bitching about Richard and Frank. I seem to recall people on this forum liking Frank and his style, that his style is a throwback to Steven's playing. People actually saying how talented of a player Richard is and how he's a throwback to Izzy. You can say Richard and Frank have contributed nothing to this band...I'm sorry to break it to you, but that falls on Axl and the record company, not them. As its been said, there's a whole library full of songs that have been recorded that haven't seen the light of day. For all we know, its the best damn songs written in history or the crappiest songs ever written in history, we don't know until something happens. Its been stated in an interview by both Axl and Duff that they made the decision to speed up the tempo, why Frank is getting the blame on that is beyond me. It honestly feels like people come on here because they don't have anything better to do than complain about their favorite band...As I mentioned before...what more can you ask of these guys who are pushing 60? you've got a very long setlist, a catalog of songs of their biggest hits, a few covers (which they've always did covers, especially back during the Illusion days, its nothing new), they're showing up on time, having a good time ontop of that and you don't get Axl stopping the show on bad nights where he's off or not in a great mood. Then you get people making the assumptions that its a cash grab tour.....which I don't understand...isn't the point for any band to tour is to make money? Yeah, they're making alot of money doing these shows, but so do other bands who are considered legendary acts. I saw Metallica the last year, just a few months prior to Gun's show and the ticket price was roughly the same. I saw Stevie Nicks a couple years ago as well and the price of the tickets were around the same price. They were a number of legendary bands/acts that were touring last year that I wanted to see and the majority of them has ticket prices that were going for around the same price as the Guns tickets. As far as the band merch is concerned...I've went to number concerts in the last couple years for band that are not on the same playing field as GN'R and their band merch was just as high in price. Why people bitch about the cost is surprising to me, thats like going to any major sporting event and bitching about the cost of a beer or the cost of buying a hat or jersey...you know its going to be expensive, this isn't something new that just recently started to become a trend. Why do GN'R fans think they have so much entitlement is beyond me.
  12. I know its been debated to death but you really have to wonder what happened to him after Rio. Even with the extra weight he put on, Axl still looked like Axl during his Rio performance. The whole VMA performance I was pumped for and I actually enjoyed the performance overall until the novelty wore off and I re-watched it again...and felt...let down. Being in high school at the time, I was known at the GN'R kid because everyday I'd wear a different GN'R shirt, I'd spout off trivia about them to anyone who cared to listen, I'd made my own fanpage in web design class, I made my own GN'R version of the Yesterdays video using my family photos. Then the next day, people were like...so thats Guns N' Roses? I couldn't find it in myseslf to try and stick up for the band...I couldn't find an excuse on why Axl gave such a lackluster performance on the classics and why he looked so odd and unAxl-ish...
  13. Tokyo 2009 VS Los Angeles 2017

    The Los Angeles show only by a hair and thats because Estranged and Coma was in the set list. Although hearing the ear piece audio from Tokyo was awesome, just hearing the conversations between Axl and the band was very humerus and entertaining. I'd love to hear the ear piece audio from any of the shows from NITL.
  14. 11/29/17 - Los Angeles, CA - The Forum

    Love Bach, too bad he didnt join for My Michelle. Bach has the Steven Tyler syndrome, he's slowly turning to an old gypsy woman, lol.
  15. 11/29/17 - Los Angeles, CA - The Forum

    must of been very cute to see, lol. We need the GN'R CSI team on the case for figuring how long this actual performance was compared to Inglewood 91 and Tokyo 09