DieselDaisy Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 It is important to constantly remind ourselves that Guns N' Roses, whatever the obstacle, be it new albums or global pandemics, always possess a series of rather vague and fudgy complications, ''legalities'', ''third parties'' and ''mitigating factors'', which every other act in the world does not have to combat - it goes without saying that this should be reiterated demonstratively at all times. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manfisman Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 The difference with the Maiden statement is that unlike GNR they had the final dates for the rescheduled concerts. GNR said that they don't know yet and that they're working hard on it in order to do further announcements on it soon. When they know specifics they'll announce it just like Maiden did. In the meantime, they just said that they're working on it and that the dates will not be happening. I mean, there were people asking for this exact kind of announcement a few days ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, Rovim said: "massaging" is a part of communication sometimes so it is important and it can go a long way in not pissing off your fanbase. Not sure what you're arguing here tbh: that it's a tough situation to maneuver? should be done better by a band of this size imo. and while many fans probably realized that no shows were going to take place in the near future, a lot of fans probably would have appreciated a more open discussion by the band about what was happening. (including me) There are too many ways to make it happen without even saying much and that's my main issue with how they've handled it. (no different than almost any other situation that involves communicating with Gn'R fans unfortunately) My point is we don't know the facts or what they were being told behind the scenes. Besides that I think? we agree. Not saying that dealing with your audience in a proper and speedy way isn't important, I think you're not reading what I'm saying... and again you've framed me as some sort of TB/GNR defender Which I really don't get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Manfisman said: The difference with the Maiden statement is that unlike GNR they had the final dates for the rescheduled concerts. GNR said that they don't know yet and that they're working hard on it in order to do further announcements on it soon. When they know specifics they'll announce it just like Maiden did. In the meantime, they just said that they're working on it and that the dates will not be happening. I mean, there were people asking for this exact kind of announcement a few days ago. Yeah... and stating this point only gets people barking at you. statement comes out "Everyone knew already what is the point" the day before "Just release a statement, any statement that ALL we need". I keep saying it but this place is fucking crazy and impossible to please. The day they release new music, someone will say "yeah, they should have released 2 albums though". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tom2112 said: My point is we don't know the facts or what they were being told behind the scenes. Besides that I think? we agree. Not saying that dealing with your audience in a proper and speedy way isn't important, I think you're not reading what I'm saying... and again you've framed me as some sort of TB/GNR defender Which I really don't get. I have read what you said, I just think Gn'R had to deal with more or less the same factors as other bands have. There are no special circumstances that prevented this band from communicating more frequently or more professionally if I had to guess. It's just the same old approach of not saying anything until it's totally safe. and I wasn't framing you as anything, just sharing my opinion as always. Edited May 12, 2020 by Rovim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 I think that Bon Jovi is great example as handled it situation, but Bon Jovi is an guy that have social conscience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAC Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, Ratam said: I think that Bon Jovi is great example as handled it situation, but Bon Jovi is an guy that have social conscience. You know what Bon Jovi can...? 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said: It is important to constantly remind ourselves that Guns N' Roses, whatever the obstacle, be it new albums or global pandemics, always possess a series of rather vague and fudgy complications, ''legalities'', ''third parties'' and ''mitigating factors'', which every other act in the world does not have to combat - it goes without saying that this should be reiterated demonstratively at all times. Except when it comes to toy trucks, laundry bags, or children's literature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, ZODIAC said: You know what Bon Jovi can...? 😊 Can what ❓ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, ZODIAC said: You know what Bon Jovi can...? 😊 I see what you did there! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledge Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 So this guy calls me bon Jovi... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 17 hours ago, ZODIAC said: You know what Bon Jovi can...? 😊 Sorry, i now understand you joke , is about it that Axl said about Bon Jovi.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAC Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ratam said: Sorry, i now understand you joke , is about it that Axl said about Bon Jovi.... 😂 exactly! 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 2 hours ago, ZODIAC said: 😂 exactly! 👍 Didn't Duff say that he, Axl, and Jon Bon Jovi had a very cordial dinner once? Maybe I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, lame ass security said: Didn't Duff say that he, Axl, and Jon Bon Jovi had a very cordial dinner once? Maybe I'm wrong. That was Sebastian, Axl and Jon... think they met in a restaurant. Think Sebastian and Jon spoke. I haven't heard the Duff story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 59 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: That was Sebastian, Axl and Jon... think they met in a restaurant. Think Sebastian and Jon spoke. I haven't heard the Duff story. Oh ok, I'm sure I had Duff confused with Sebastian. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42è BCP Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 This was posted on Gnr YouTube channel few minutes ago. And... I don't understand the goal? This is just a playlist/Setlist with audios from the album. What's the interest seriously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanJen Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 For one single second, I couldn’t believe my eyes, and thought I was about to click a link that led to videos from the show that night. ...they played me yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted May 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, 42è BCP said: This was posted on Gnr YouTube channel few minutes ago. And... I don't understand the goal? This is just a playlist/Setlist with audios from the album. What's the interest seriously! I'm gonna try not to overreact, but I swear....if this is their idea of sharing new content.... 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, Ratam said: I think that Bon Jovi is great example as handled it situation, but Bon Jovi is an guy that have social conscience. I think it's different with Bon Jovi since he's a Jersey guy. Born, bred, and still lives in this state. He embodies the NJ spirit with his songs about toughness, faith, and blue collar work ethic. Both him and Springsteen. Since the 2000s began, NJ has gotten hit hard with a lot of things. My opinion is that it has affected both Bon Jovi and Springsteen. I can't fully explain it, but it's definitely a culture from NJ that both have been a part of. Edited May 12, 2020 by Draguns typo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamsapple Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 14 hours ago, 42è BCP said: This was posted on Gnr YouTube channel few minutes ago. And... I don't understand the goal? This is just a playlist/Setlist with audios from the album. What's the interest seriously! Mabye just placeholders to test something? I'd take any show from 2006 over NITL to be honest. They sounded fantastic on that tour. Don't see the logic though in posting that now that the band has a totally different lineup, but then again GNR and logic should never be mentioned in the same breath. The one show I'm still looking for in good quality is House of Blues 2001, that was a great and somewhat very emotional performance but all I ever saw of it was a VHS quality copy before they took it down. Houston 2016 would be great too, from what I've seen on YT they were pretty good that night. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagszilla Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 I’m sure this tweet will not be controversial and everyone is going to react really maturely and sensibly. I’m sure of it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Please take the tasteless shirt comments to the correct thread, thanks: http://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/214604-official-merchandise-thread/?page=78&tab=comments#comment-4801601 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaoloLA Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 23 hours ago, Tom2112 said: That was Sebastian, Axl and Jon... think they met in a restaurant. Think Sebastian and Jon spoke. I haven't heard the Duff story. It was Sebastian.... and he Axl and Jon has dinner and went through an obscene amount of wine lolol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourteenbeers Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 On 9.5.2020 at 7:52 PM, Italian girl said: She's One of the worst thing ever seen I wouldn't say that. Her music is good for insomnia. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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