Rose UK Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Can't we just leave old Guns N' Roses out of it?All that needs to be said is so far this is looking up to be the best new Guns N' Roses have ever sounded. rock1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranger Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 It's really a fantastic performance. Everyone was great, but I still have to highlight Bumblefoot. He kicked ass during the second part of the solo. One of the best live renditions I've ever seen (or heard) of that solo. Certainly a lot better than what Finck used to do. And DJ seems to have a great stage presence. That helps a lot.Hopefully we'll have more shows of this quality for the rest of the tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.. Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 (edited) Can't we just leave old Guns N' Roses out of it?All that needs to be said is so far this is looking up to be the best new Guns N' Roses have ever sounded. rock1On the contrary I find it interesting that fans say wether they prefer the old guns versions or this one. Personnally, apart from the ritz and some rare other old lives, I have never heard a version of sweet child o' mine that is as good as this one, both vocally and on guitar. Ashba fucking owns and I find it very amusing to see people praising Ashba over Slash as opposed to people who were shitting on the band because Slash wasn't in it. He may have written Sweet child with Axl but truth, he doesn't play it good nowadays and Ashba & Bumblefoot honor this song a lot better than he most of the times did (drugs abuse of course, but I think that overall Ashba & Bumblefoot are better player technically speaking). Edited December 15, 2009 by D.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandynroses Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 This video is great, thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carsonskitz Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 cant stop playing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Can't we just leave old Guns N' Roses out of it?All that needs to be said is so far this is looking up to be the best new Guns N' Roses have ever sounded. rock1On the contrary I find it interesting that fans say wether they prefer the old guns versions or this one. Personnally, apart from the ritz and some rare other old lives, I have never heard a version of sweet child o' mine that is as good as this one, both vocally and on guitar. Ashba fucking owns and I find it very amusing to see people praising Ashba over Slash as opposed to people who were shitting on the band because Slash wasn't in it. He may have written Sweet child with Axl but truth, he doesn't play it good nowadays and Ashba & Bumblefoot honor this song a lot better than he most of the times did (drugs abuse of course, but I think that overall Ashba & Bumblefoot are better player technically speaking).You are so wrong my friend, and also so pointlessly aggresive towards Slash. Youve seen one or two concerts with DJ Ashba in guns n roses and you think he is more suited to GNR sound than Slash.I honestly give up. Cool, DJ Ashba plays GNR songs better than slash. Whatever. A few years ago that would have annoyed the fuck out of me but I cant be bothered anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTZ Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Guys, guess what? You can like Both DJ and Slash! I do, and so far the cops have not shown up at my door to take me away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realpoti Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 DJ Ashba did a great job on the solo, my god, he's really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrain86 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Wow, that was amazing, only thing that would of made it more epic is if Axl stayed out during the solo and did the little dance with the microphone stand lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 fuck me thats the best video in what forever? Way to go guys you guys are fucking tight!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebbieNgeorgia Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Guys, guess what? You can like Both DJ and Slash! I do, and so far the cops have not shown up at my door to take me away.Knock-knock! Ma'am, this is the GN'R police and we are gonna have to place you under arrest.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.. Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 You are so wrong my friend, and also so pointlessly aggresive towards Slash. Youve seen one or two concerts with DJ Ashba in guns n roses and you think he is more suited to GNR sound than Slash.I honestly give up. Cool, DJ Ashba plays GNR songs better than slash. Whatever. A few years ago that would have annoyed the fuck out of me but I cant be bothered anymore.Well DJ Ashba on his first two shows proved me he was ace. He can only get better. Compare this version of sweet child to this one: Argentina, 93. Slash was an awesome player don't get me wrong and on this version he owns the song, but it happened to him under certain circumstances to not play very well (especially jungle, i don't remember what shows), and nowadays he's really lost it imo, but maybe he doesn't train enough (don't tell me he did justice to sweet child on his last lives with ferggie). I'd call it a tie, Slash has different techniques than Ashba & Bumblefoot, but Ashba does it for me, he suits guns perfectly, he has the style and attitude in addition to his awesome skills, he wants to play, look at Slash in 93, it's like he doesn't give a fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebbieNgeorgia Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I have great respect for Slash and I think he is great. The difference, to me, is that Ashba is hungry and still loving the lights. Slash has "been there, done that". He still kicks ass as one of the greatest guitar players of all time, but DJ is on his way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orsys Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 That was the most exciting thing I've watched on YouTube in a long time. Awesome!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fun n' Games Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 That was GREAT, really awesome!Audio compares to `93 to my ears; video not quite...Anyways, great stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Ashba is great, but BBF's second half of the solo is the show stopper for me. Glad people are giving his chops some cred these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno P. Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 It's really a fantastic performance. Everyone was great, but I still have to highlight Bumblefoot. He kicked ass during the second part of the solo. One of the best live renditions I've ever seen (or heard) of that solo. Finally someone noticed that! Bumblefoot plays the best part of the solo and he fucking owns it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84b220T8Jas&feature=channel Skip to 7.50 and listen to that ending solo. It's perfection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innocuous1 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 WOWSERS that was sweet....have to say that for me the last few seconds are the best - - the anticipation - - just waiting for Axl to smile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrealer Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 These guys are great together.I'm really happy with what I'm seeing. I can't wait to see them next month!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunoze Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Ashba can certainly play Slash's stuff, no problem. But then again, so can about a million guitarists in the world. Just have a look on You Tube. As a guitarist myself, and somebody who was at the Seoul concert, I can tell you quite clearly that Ashba is a more textbook guitarist than Slash. If they both had a piece of music to learn, I am sure Ashba would easily nail it before Slash. Slash is a very loose player sometimes, and live he can miss quite a lot of notes.But this is not the point. Its not so much about how you play actually, but more about the riffs and melodies that you can create. Replaying someone elses music is infinitely easier than writing it from scratch as Slash did. Some of the technically best guitarists in the world, have never even played on a stage. The reason being, they are literally just 'tab players' who can only copy other people's music. Ashba plays each of Slash's solos note for note, he doesn't add anything different. The same does not apply to Fortus or Bumble, who have both added their own style to the music. The fact that Ashba faithfully follows Slash's sound is a good thing, I enjoyed the concert even more. You cannot improve on perfection. I didn't like it when Finck used to mess around with the solo's, it just did not seem right. For the new music, the guys can do what they like with it, as it is theirs. But they should play the old stuff as it was meant to be. As a live show, I hope Fortus and Bumble can follow the original sound more, but I guess they are both creative artists, so its just not possible. So in a nutshell, Ashba is a great guitarist, and suits the band. But the fact remains, that he only sounds great as he is playing Slash's music. Having heard Ashba's own style with Sixx AM, I think his sound is far too basic for GNR. But as a touring guitarist playing other peoples music, he is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eye2eye Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I knew Ashba would play great in Guns N' Roses, even his "Sorry" solo was great ( not as good as Buckethead, but he played it really good). I think that Axl has found not only great live players but also guys who are great songwriters, Fortus is great songwriter, Bumble has many solo albums to his credit etc but Ashba could be the guy who will glue it together as he is more into that kind of modern hard rock music ( he co-wrote SOLA by Motley Crue and Sixx:A.M record) and Bumble and Fortus are also great rock guitar players. I think what lacked between Finck, Buckethead and Tobias/Fortus was lack of similiar music background. I am still suprised how many guitars Bumble add to Chinese Democracy ( rythm parts in CD, a lot in Shackler's Revenge, all those fills and mini solos in Sorry, I.R.S rythm, rythm parts in Better) and maybe with Ashba and Fortus they will be able to produce more music faster. It would be shame if they didn't as Axl is on the top of his game considering vocals and still has something to prove... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl_on_drums Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Amazing, amazing band.Many thought Axl's been sitting on his ass for a year, nope, he's been creating the best GNR line up since the orginal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budweiser Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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