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With all due respect, I hate the Gorillaz. Their whole shtick makes me wanna purchase a cement mixers worth of white out and paint it all over em so I never have to see them again.

I love the gorillaz. Too bad it's over. Their second and third album are genius. Especially Demon Days. Some really profound and inspired musical ideas in some songs. A lot of musicality.

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Yeah, I was under the impression that it was just a recording of a performance by the guy himself (in which case I still think it wouldn't be any different from for example Queen using Freddy's recording of the Bohemian Rhapsody opera part during the Tribute Concert or any other live+recorded show) but I read now that it was all artificial and I concede it's less tasteful but still I don't see what the big deal is. They made an image of him rapping on stage, isn't that what he did during his lifetime ? If they made a porno or something like that, than yeah, outrage would make sense

Well they're making a dead person speak and choosing what he says. Do you not think it's a little weird? I mean, alright, so alls he's saying is whattup Coachella but it's the principle of it. It's one thing to just have a recording of the person but then to make him speak, in the here and now, i dunno, to me there's just something slightly immoral about it. I mean, that was a real human being and people are using him post mortem to cynically make money off of him. I mean, just think how much money is made off his name every day, posthumous albums, clothing brands, books, dvds, cds, mp3, all manner of merchandising, legit and bootlegged...and then this, i mean just imagine how much money is sunk into this/made out of his name.

Now i wonder how much money of that is spent on actually trying to solve the poor cunts murder...it's sick...just goes to show you, where there's a fuckin quid to be made your mum ain't even your mum anymore. I mean no one made Freddie Mercury speak from beyond the dead, did they? I mean, no one made him come onstage and like, make statements for fucking gay rights or comment about how 9/11 horrified him. It ain't just a recording of him it's recreating him in the now, referring to things that he couldn't possibly refer to because he's dead. These people are fucking snakes.

it's disrespectful and cheap and awful deifying of someone who was a million times more interesting as a flesh and blood human being than he is as someones fucking light show. This is a person that had SOO much to say and represented SOO much for SOO many people and he's been reduced to something that you might expect to fall out of a packet of rice krispies in the early 90s.

Human beings ain't fucking chess pieces, they have feelings and minds and opinions and when they're fucking dead we should have enough respect to let them die and resign ourselves to that fact instead of going "y'know, if Pac was around, i'm pretty sure he'd be playing Coachella with Snoop and Dre, despite him hating Snoops guts.

It's like Axl dying tommorow and then next Coachella him being onstage by way of hologram with the rest of Guns and everyone going, y'know, i bet Axls looking down on us from heaven and going oh gee whizz, if only i'd've made it up with Slash before i popped my clogs, i know, lets make our estimation of his post mortem wish come true and stick em onstage together, Axl would've liked that!

To be honest I'm talking entirely out of my ass here. I haven't seen the actual video (only a few seconds) and I don't really know anything about Tupac Shakur other than that he was a pretty big deal in the rap world. So I have no idea if all this clashes with what he stood for or anything like that. Or what they made that hologram do for that matter. I simply assumed (yeah, I made a lot of assumptions I suppose) that they used like a clip of him performing a song and rendered it 3D. What do you mean they made him speak? Like artificial language and saying something or what? I dont get it. (I can't watch videos right now.)

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yeah they made him speak as in they made him say 'whattup Coachella?' or something of the like. I know thats not exactly much and my objection would be better grounded if they'd, i dunno, made him go "VOTE ROMNEY FOR A BETTER AMERICA!" or something but it's just the principle of the thing and the speaking for Tupac and, y'know, someone somewhere made a desicion that, OK, "i think what Pac would like to've been saying if he'd been here..." which is pretty wrong to my mind. Particularly the fact that the hologram was performing with someone that Tupac hated before he died (Dr Dre).

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Wait, they will be world tours with these things.

Michael Jackson will be moon-walking, Elvis will be dancing, Hendrix will be ripping the guitar, and The Beatles and Led Zeppelin will finally reunite.

If there's not a Michael Jackson hologram world tour in the next 5 year I'll be completely shocked.

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Yeah, I was under the impression that it was just a recording of a performance by the guy himself (in which case I still think it wouldn't be any different from for example Queen using Freddy's recording of the Bohemian Rhapsody opera part during the Tribute Concert or any other live+recorded show) but I read now that it was all artificial and I concede it's less tasteful but still I don't see what the big deal is. They made an image of him rapping on stage, isn't that what he did during his lifetime ? If they made a porno or something like that, than yeah, outrage would make sense

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I see the memes have already started...love the Chuck Testa one! :lol:

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X Japan did this a few years ago, brought back their guitarrist for one song. It was weird, but awesome.

Your a X fan? I didn't expect that around here. Yeah, they used the Hide hologram for the first 2 or 3 shows I think after they reunited in 2008. Aside from the emotional burden I think Hide's brother was threatening them with legal action or something.

Anyway I watched the hologram of 2pac. I guess as a one off tribute the fans would appreciate it, but not regularly. Although this isn't exactly a new idea, they've been doing 'video playbacks' of deceased musicians with their bands for a while. I remember a tour with Elvis' musicians and they used video/audio tracks of Elvis singing with them.

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X Japan did this a few years ago, brought back their guitarrist for one song. It was weird, but awesome.

Your a X fan? I didn't expect that around here. Yeah, they used the Hide hologram for the first 2 or 3 shows I think after they reunited in 2008. Aside from the emotional burden I think Hide's brother was threatening them with legal action or something.

Anyway I watched the hologram of 2pac. I guess as a one off tribute the fans would appreciate it, but not regularly. Although this isn't exactly a new idea, they've been doing 'video playbacks' of deceased musicians with their bands for a while. I remember a tour with Elvis' musicians and they used video/audio tracks of Elvis singing with them.

I think as long as the families are okay with it, it's fine.

And you KNOW there's going to be a Michael Jackson one.

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If Tupac was still alive Kanye would still be some two bit fuckin producer nobody gave a shit about that made his bones rippin' off Prince Rakeem. And that goes the same for Hawaiian Sophie, as much as i love him, can't doubt Reasonable Doubt but there'd be no room for him if Biggie was around (no pun intended). I wager possibly not an Eminem either although Em's talent and ability is undeniable but then again so was Canibus. had Tupac and Biggie lived, Hip Hop would've been very VERY fuckin different. The deaths of Tupac and Biggie hit Hip Hop the way the deaths of James Dean and Monty Clift hit Hollywood. By which i mean the real deal was gone after that (including Brando cuz he didn't have no competition anymore) and other actors that, although brilliant in their own way, came up on the back of that angry young man thing and were snapped up as actors in the shadow of the Deans and Monty Clifts of this world.

Kanyes fame and status at this point in the history of hip hop just goes to show you how desperate the genre is for a 'someone'.

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Kanyes fame and status at this point in the history of hip hop just goes to show you how desperate the genre is for a 'someone'.

I really enjoy Kanye West's music. Like I've said before, IMO, he's the most talented rapper today.

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Kanyes fame and status at this point in the history of hip hop just goes to show you how desperate the genre is for a 'someone'.

I really enjoy Kanye West's music. Like I've said before, IMO, he's the most talented rapper today.

You're entitled to your opinion but i think thats the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. Most talented? He's barely a rapper, let alone the most talented. And thats not an attempt at being witty, it's just a fact, the guys a producer that diversified. While people like GZA, Eminem, Jay Z are still breathing i think it's bordering on ludicrious to claim Kanye West is the best rapper. I mean, opinions are opinions and you are entitled to enjoy what you enjoy but as far as like, i dunno, tale of the tape, proof in the pudding? God, there are like...there are lesser rappers out there that are better than Kanye.

To suggest that Kanye can spit anything approaching the sorts of ways that people like Raekwon the Chef or...y'know, even some of the lesser members of certain hip hop crews, people like Kon Artis out of D12 beat fuckin stripes off of Kanye and Kanye would agree with that i think, despite being an egotistical cunt.

Kanye's just a fake RZA.

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Your a X fan? I didn't expect that around here. Yeah, they used the Hide hologram for the first 2 or 3 shows I think after they reunited in 2008. Aside from the emotional burden I think Hide's brother was threatening them with legal action or something.

Yeah I'm a pretty big fan of theirs, blew my mind when they did that on their first night comeback. They only used it that one time though, Yoshiki said it was too much for the band. But they still used his image/footage all over the video screens up to 2010, on the last world tour they seem to have stopped completely.

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Kanye is more of a producer like the D-R-E. And I agree that rap history would be a lot different (for the better) had Pac, Eazy E and Biggie not all died. But every good movement needs its dead icons. I sure wish Andre 3000 would come out with something. It sucks when our icons go Axl Rose on us.

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