Rustycage Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Yeah, I doubt they work for MTV or anything.Are you going to seriously sit there and say that you believe people thought that was a performance that can't be topped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 One reporter. Fuck me, that just cleared that up then. All those millions watching around the world must have been watching a different band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Volcano,In your mind, which was a better performance. This VMA or the one where Axl performed with Tom Petty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcano62 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Volcano,In your mind, which was a better performance. This VMA or the one where Axl performed with Tom Petty?Tom Petty. But energy wise VMA's 2002 hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONEZY Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I liked it at the time. I was hoping that momentum would carry on with a successful tour and a new album. But that didn't happen. I didn't mind Axl being out of breath, he was running all over the place, which was fine by me. Did not like Robin Finck's look, still don't. Looked like a freak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Is there a VMA performance from ANY band that doesn't have a couple of dozen people up front going crazy while the rest of the crowd is picking their butt?I probably could have gone if I was in the same city they were doing the VMAs that year, but would've been in the peanut gallery with the radio station winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) No, vocal wise it was terrible in 02 and is still terrible now Edited February 22, 2013 by Dark Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 it sounds better with time mostly in comparison to what is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty-nine Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binge_And_Slash Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 They could do it again I think, 11 years have passed, the same amount of time as when they last did the VMA's with the old lineup - 2002 line-up.... but they need to have new songs, they can't do Jungle n PC, it'll just look stupid, I'd suggest one AFD song, a CD song and whatever 'new' song they have off an album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDemocracyRose Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Opening scream was insane! Maddy sounded great. I love Maddy n Blues from 2001/02. PC was a little weak. But overall it was great to see GNR back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnkelSivert Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Volcano,In your mind, which was a better performance. This VMA or the one where Axl performed with Tom Petty?Tom Petty. But energy wise VMA's 2002 hands down.+1.The energy is untouchble. There is only one man who can create energy like that on stage. He was on fire, he had the hunger! It was one hell of a peformence.PS: with tom petty his vocals wasent exactly awsome....Dident fit the song atleast.VMA 2002 UNDERRATED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Retrospectively, does the 2002 MTV appearance sound better than what you thought back then? I was just watching it now for whatever reason.Axl certainly has sounded better since, but in the majority of his recent performances, his 2002 voice was stronger. Just asking because that's long been viewed as sort of a mess of a performance. Noweak voiceNot better, just powerfull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman2000 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Volcano,In your mind, which was a better performance. This VMA or the one where Axl performed with Tom Petty?Tom Petty. But energy wise VMA's 2002 hands down.Hell no. Axl had way more energy and it was fucking raw when he played with Tom Petty. Did you guys ever see the second part of that? After Free Fallin', they play Heartbreak Hotel. I'd say Heartbreak Hotel is better then Free Fallin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Volcano,In your mind, which was a better performance. This VMA or the one where Axl performed with Tom Petty?Tom Petty. But energy wise VMA's 2002 hands down.+1.The energy is untouchble. There is only one man who can create energy like that on stage. He was on fire, he had the hunger! It was one hell of a peformence.PS: with tom petty his vocals wasent exactly awsome....Dident fit the song atleast.VMA 2002 UNDERRATED!Uhhh.........can't tell if serious or trying to be funny.His vocals on free falling were absolutely perfect. So much that he pretty much blew Petty off the stage.One of Axl's finest moments on stage was that entire performance.Just out of curiosity, how many live shows have you attended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Energy? He was fuckin winded after the intro scream.His performance with Tom Petty is in the stratosphere compared to the vma 02 performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liers Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I always wondered why they chose Maddy instead of Chinese or even TWAT.I'm guessing for this reason. 9/11. It happened around a year earlier, new york was still recovering, this song was about recovering and not being brought down, it fit perfectly.It did enormous damage to NuGNR. Arguably they never quite recovered.This times a 1,000.You only get one chance to make a first impression.When you are going to do something as ballsy as keep the name of an iconic band the same with only yourself as the remaining member, you need to make sure their introduction to the world goes well.By any metric the entire spectacle was a disaster from the appearance of the band, to Axl's ridiculous wardrobe to his being totally gassed because he wasn't in shape and ready to perform (where have we heard that before)....things just couldn't have gone worse if he tried to.If he went out and smoked that performance looking/sounding like the Axl Rose people remembered and then had an album ready to go a few months later it would have totally changed the trajectory of New GNR.Instead he was left as the punchline to fat jokes with people mocking that "he broke up the original band for this?".This doesn't even begin to touch on the fact that he had no business wasting what was arguably his biggest nut to launching the new band when there was no sign of a record anywhere in sight.Who on God's green earth advised him that debuting the band at that time was a good idea when there was no music ready to go? What he did is something you do to promote the long awaited album, as it was sure to generate a ton of buzz (in this case it did...just not the type he maybe hoped). People were naturally wondering when the album was coming, and Axl was basically left saying "don't hold your breath."To let him go out there unprepared to perform, knowingly throwing away the best promotional opportunity he would ever have to launch the band just screams stupidity.He could have ended the VMA's any year he wanted at that point, and to waste it like he did is just criminal.They had tons of music. Chinese democracy could've been released as early as 1999. At that time they had already said they had over 30 completed songs. They had already played SOD, OMG, Silkworms, Riad, Maddy, CD, and piano parts from prostitute live. IRS, Catcher, and Twat were also completed by that time. They had plenty of material, but axl wanted to be a perfectionist and make everything "perfect". I think if the US tour had been completed as planned and the riots hadn't caused issues in the band, we would've seen CD by 2003.I always wondered why they chose Maddy instead of Chinese or even TWAT.I'm sure Madagascar was going to be the lead single at that pointI remember hearing somewhere that up until they wrote better, catcher was planned to be the lead single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Energy? He was fuckin winded after the intro scream.His performance with Tom Petty is in the stratosphere compared to the vma 02 performance.I remember that they had like JUST gotten back from playing China before the MTV gig. Probably all lagged out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtydane Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Thought he looked cool. And he if sounds like this At the beginning of the Australia tour, it'll b an improvement over his Vegas vocals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todo Poderoso Timão Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Retrospectively, does the 2002 MTV appearance sound better than what you thought back then? I was just watching it now for whatever reason.Axl certainly has sounded better since, but in the majority of his recent performances, his 2002 voice was stronger. Just asking because that's long been viewed as sort of a mess of a performance. No. It gets only more nostalgic.Happens with every concert. In 2001, Rio 3 was considered a disaster. And now people consider it as being epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 That performance will forever be shitty. It's so bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Roses Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 lol most epicfail performance ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreCC Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 lol most epicfail performance ever.+ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerthGNR Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The constant fuckin around with the ear monitor was a distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbo Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 It was a joke, and made Axl a laughing stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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