RichardNixon Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Which movie would you compare it to? I'd go with On Her Majesties Secret Service. It's the odd-ball in the bunch--it stars George Lazenby as 007 (his solo Bond film), it sticks to the source material and is the most dour, serious 007 film (minus the Craig-era films). It underperformed, although was still a hit, and is regarded by many Bond aficionados as one of the best films in the series. The cinematography (with beautiful landscapes), musical score and the overall story, which sees Bond truly fall in love, make On Her Majesties Secret Service a great film. The death of Bond's wife Tracy is analogous to Axl's feelings of betrayal and loss of friendships.I see the same beauty, depth, melancholy and fan response from Chinese Democracy.Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Die Another Day. Overproduced and not very good. Also easily the worst of all the movies (albums).The real question is: what is the Chinese Democracy equivilant of the invisible car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Casino Royale. Unfortunately, it's the Woody Allen one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I think OHMSS is a good comparison. The Living Daylights or Licence To Kill as well; great movies even if they're a departure from what Bond is all about, and often overlooked/ignored by casual fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) OHMSS is gritty and brilliant though? CD is anything but that! I would second Die Another Day: an overproduced affair full of bells and whistles. Thing is, every Bond film performed at the box office. It might surprise you but Die Another Day was a financial success, so there is no 'flop' to choose like CD. You could also say Never Say Never: fake. Edited January 12, 2014 by DieselDaisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 OHMSS is gritty and brilliant though? CD is anything but that! I would second Die Another Day: an overproduced affair full of bells and whistles. Thing is, every Bond film performed at the box office. It might surprise you but Die Another Day was a financial success, so there is no 'flop' to choose like CD. You could also say Never Say Never: fake.Or, depending on how you like it (I hate it), Diamonds Are Forever. A terrible movie by an old, over the top Bond (not that Connery as an actor was over the top) that tried to be differen't than it's predecessors and failed critically.Only thing is that DAF was also a financial success. So I have no idea then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 There are no flops there. The closest thing to a flop is Licence to Kill and that still performed quite well, just, below expectations. Eon made a mess of the marketing campaign on that film because they decided to change the title at the last minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 There are no flops there. The closest thing to a flop is Licence to Kill and that still performed quite well, just, below expectations. Eon made a mess of the marketing campaign on that film because they decided to change the title at the last minute.I'm a fairly seasoned Bond fan and didn't know that even. What was it originally supposed to be called? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardNixon Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 I like every 007 film. I saw DAD yesterday and think that it's a hell of a lot fun. 007 surfing on 1000 foot waves, what's not to love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 On Her Majesty's Secret Service?? No. Just no. Part of me wonders if this is some reunionist fantasy, as in: if CD is OHMSS, then the next album will go back to Sean Connery (ie the old lineup). Hmm.I would say Chinese Democracy is similar to Live and Let Die. New Bond. New GnR. An acquired taste for some. But still plenty of goodness in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 On Her Majesty's Secret Service?? No. Just no. Part of me wonders if this is some reunionist fantasy, as in: if CD is OHMSS, then the next album will go back to Sean Connery (ie the old lineup). Hmm.I would say Chinese Democracy is similar to Live and Let Die. New Bond. New GnR. An acquired taste for some. But still plenty of goodness in there. Except DAF is widely viewed unfavorably. Doesn't fit in with a reunion idea, since most people want a reunion. Unless you mean it's a good idea on paper, but can't meet expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I just think comparing CD to OHMSS is a bit harsh, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Casino Royale. Unfortunately, it's the Woody Allen one.Casino Royale was great. Perfect intro to the new bond and it had the very beautiful Vespa Mmmmmmmm! Chinese is not for everyone though, so I'm not going to argue with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) There are no flops there. The closest thing to a flop is Licence to Kill and that still performed quite well, just, below expectations. Eon made a mess of the marketing campaign on that film because they decided to change the title at the last minute.I'm a fairly seasoned Bond fan and didn't know that even. What was it originally supposed to be called?License Revoked. Ironically it was originally being discussed to be shot in China.I like every 007 film. I saw DAD yesterday and think that it's a hell of a lot fun. 007 surfing on 1000 foot waves, what's not to love? Pretty much everything about it after he gets to Cuba. The CGI looks horrible and it has Madonna as both an actress and the singer of the theme.So what's to love? Edited January 12, 2014 by Crazyman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 DAD was great for the first half hour or so. Could've been the best Brosnan film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnold layne Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Miser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Miser?No, Miser hated every Bond except Sean Connery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Livings in the way we die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumbleine Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I agree with OP.OHMSS,when Tracy dies in James Bonds car and he despairs...Axl seems to have never recovered from S.good comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Which movie would you compare it to? I'd go with On Her Majesties Secret Service. It's the odd-ball in the bunch--it stars George Lazenby as 007 (his solo Bond film), it sticks to the source material and is the most dour, serious 007 film (minus the Craig-era films). It underperformed, although was still a hit, and is regarded by many Bond aficionados as one of the best films in the series. The cinematography (with beautiful landscapes), musical score and the overall story, which sees Bond truly fall in love, make On Her Majesties Secret Service a great film. The death of Bond's wife Tracy is analogous to Axl's feelings of betrayal and loss of friendships.I see the same beauty, depth, melancholy and fan response from Chinese Democracy.Thoughts? No way dude! I'd go with never say never again or woody allen's casino raoyale as both are not considered part of movie franchise; and to any gnr fan from the afd or uyi lineup era's, CD is not considered a GNR record, but a solo axl record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Octopussy-CDDiamonds Are Forever-AFDI´m talking about titles,not movie plots. And the fact that the best James Bond ever was Sean Connery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Octopussy-CDDiamonds Are Forever-AFDI´m talking about titles,not movie plots. And the fact that the best James Bond ever was Sean Connery Lol why post here if you know nothing about JB? Just to piss off CD fans?CD would clearly be OHMSS as it's an isolate event, a change to the unknown and is appreciated only by the hardcore fanbase, and was never quite properly continued. Also because of the fact JB falls in love in that film. JB mever fell in love like that, it was a complete change for JB as CD is a complete change for Guns N' Roses.But there is NOTHING more ITW than Diamonds Are Forever. That movie IS ITW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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