It would seem GnR is still able to tour successfully, despite some claims to the contrary. So why are concert-goers attending a GnR show in 2014?

[saber_]

You've no doubt seen the oft-repeated proclamations of doom and gloom about GnR's tours on this board:

"GnR's concert numbers are dwindling."

"They are playing to increasingly smaller and smaller crowds in increasingly smaller venues."

"This show, that show will be canceled. The tour will be canceled."

Clearly some people are misinformed, right? Because as some other people also like to point out, GnR just keeps on touring and touring. How can they keep on touring if the numbers are dwindling? It vexes me.

So why are concert-goers attending a GnR show in 2014? Let's hear it.

Edited January 18, 2014 by metaforcesaber

[gnfnrs1972]

I guess to have something to bitch about.

[Izzy_Stradlin_XX]

Nobody's misimnformed. Playing in Argentina doesn't really count, they'd buy the ticket to see "Guns N Roses" even if Axl wasn't there.

And festivals don't count either, they may be one of the head linning bands, but that's because most of the people don't even know that

Slash's out of GN'R or just go to see other bands. I haven't heard about "GN'R" playing the Forum or MSG for a loooooooooong time,

and that's an obligatory stop for every big band that tours.

[Chewbacca]

Cuz I like the band

[ARX77]

They sold out the forum in 2011 and MSG in 2006

[Bruno P.]

Playing in Argentina doesn't really count, they'd buy the ticket to see "Guns N Roses" even if Axl wasn't there.

And festivals don't count either, they may be one of the head linning bands, but that's because most of the people don't even know that

Slash's out of GN'R or just go to see other bands. I haven't heard about "GN'R" playing the Forum or MSG for a loooooooooong time,

and that's an obligatory stop for every big band that tours.

really?

by the way you mean this place?

missing shacklers live so much!

[Powerage5]

Cuz I like the band

[saber_]

Playing in Argentina doesn't really count, they'd buy the ticket to see "Guns N Roses" even if Axl wasn't there.

And festivals don't count either, they may be one of the head linning bands, but that's because most of the people don't even know that

Slash's out of GN'R or just go to see other bands. I haven't heard about "GN'R" playing the Forum or MSG for a loooooooooong time,

and that's an obligatory stop for every big band that tours.

I see. May I say, it just seems like you're making excuses. But hey, maybe the name really is that powerful, maybe people aren't aware Slash isn't in the band, maybe pointing out MSG and The Forum really do pertain to the premise of the topic about successful touring. Juuuust maybe.

[wfuckinga]

Because Axl Rose is successful, talented, has great stage presence and can deliver a great show.

[wasted]

I think they put on a great rock show. And people buy products based on whether they like it. Noy many are consumed about line ups they just go for a good time.

[Broskirose]

No one has attended a GNR show in 2014.

[ManetsBR]

Fucking Alex Rose...

[ABBA]

Guns N Roses wouldn't be touring SA in 2014 if something BIG wasn't planned. My guess is we'll probably be getting a new single a couple weeks before the tour. After they complete all the SA dates, I wouldn't be surprised if additional SA dates weren't added or if the same venues were played twice just to build up hype before they drop the new album mid year in Brazil.

Edited January 18, 2014 by ABBA

[Coma16]

Guns N Roses wouldn't be touring SA in 2014 if something BIG wasn't planned. My guess is we'll probably be getting a new single a couple weeks before the tour. After they complete all the SA dates, I wouldn't be surprised if additional SA dates weren't added or if the same venues were played twice just to build up hype before they drop the new album mid year in Brazil.

While I hope you are right, I'm not setting myself up for disappointment.

[Bobbo]

They are dwindling. Nobody said Axl's in the critical danger zone yet, but the numbers are dwindling.

Attendance has clearly dropped. It's indisputable. They very seldom sell out anymore since late 2011. And obviously everyone knows mostly all established acts do well in Brazil and shit,

But let's at least wait till Axl plays some shows before either "side" gloats.

[ABBA]

Guns N Roses wouldn't be touring SA in 2014 if something BIG wasn't planned. My guess is we'll probably be getting a new single a couple weeks before the tour. After they complete all the SA dates, I wouldn't be surprised if additional SA dates weren't added or if the same venues were played twice just to build up hype before they drop the new album mid year in Brazil.

While I hope you are right, I'm not setting myself up for disappointment.

I don't see believing it will happen as setting yourself up for disappointment. There has been a lot of speculation about the new album coming out in 2014 and several band members have alluded to this being a reality.

I don't think we will get conformation until right beforehand. Axl will ensure that there is not another issue like with Chinese Democracy where the promotion is half assed and being pushed by a shady manager. Ever since the SA dates were announced, I've had this feeling that Axl has already negotiated a deal with the label, and right before the tour, the promotional ball will start rolling. Drop single. Tour SA. Add additional dates or 2nd shows at the same venue. Drop the album mid-way through the South American tour. Just my opinion, but I bet it's something relatively close to this.

If a new album wasn't on the way, there wouldn't be any other reason to do this tour. Seems simple enough to me.

[WhazUp]

There has been a lot of speculation about the new album coming out in 2014 and several band members have alluded to this being a reality.

If a new album wasn't on the way, there wouldn't be any other reason to do this tour. Seems simple enough to me.

You could say the same thing about the tours back in 2001/2002 through 2006. And during that time band members - including Axl - alluded to an album coming out since 1999 and yet it took until 2008 for it to actually come out.

Unfortunately the reality of the situation is you just can't take GNR's word for anything at this point. Seeing is believing, and believe me I would love to see it happen

Edited January 18, 2014 by WhazUp

[wasted]

They are dwindling. Nobody said Axl's in the critical danger zone yet, but the numbers are dwindling.

Attendance has clearly dropped. It's indisputable. They very seldom sell out anymore since late 2011. And obviously everyone knows mostly all established acts do well in Brazil and shit,

But let's at least wait till Axl plays some shows before either "side" gloats.

It's not a matter of if, just when and how.

[bacardimayne]

Wish I knew. All they're doing at this point is supporting little Vanessa Jr.'s trust fund.

I can see going to a show in your own area but it baffles me that people will still travel cross-country to see this band.

Edited January 18, 2014 by bacardimayne

[SoNobodyToldYaBaby]

because seeing Axl in the flesh on stage and shrieking 'DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE FUCK YOU AREEEEEEEEEE!!!??' is like taking that first hit of exctasy all over again.

[IRanOutOfIdeas]

I feel like they could easily run the theater circuit and sell out there.

[classicguns4life]

The general public is so much stupider than many actually realize. That is why.

[Shooting Star]

I work hard almost everyday. I deserve to have some fun every once in a while going to a concert of my fav band. Simple as that.

[wasted]

Once someone went to see this band, maybe with some doubts, but then enjoyed it maybe it's not so much of an issue. If you were old enough to see original band then maybe you shouldn't care about a band that much. 20 somethings have no reason to be loyal to a band they never saw.

[DieselDaisy]

Maybe if people did not go to the shows, the band would take the hint that we all want another album. So look as gullible Brazilians exist, we will never get new material.