magisme Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'll throw on the album if all I'm looking for is precise. Save myself the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustycage Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Frank is hardly precise. Axl agrees frequently. Axl is hardly precise. Everyone but Axl and TB agree frequently. The Bridge School Benefit was a disaster not only for Axl but for whoever tuned the acoustics. Hardly precise and professional.Let's talk about true professionals............the management! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I think we all know "precise" is code for "Slash was sloppy at times." So they disregard how shit the rest of the band is, including Axl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustycage Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Slash was either drunk or stoned out of his mind yet was still more precise than Ashba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcano62 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I think we all know "precise" is code for "Slash was sloppy at times." So they disregard how shit the rest of the band is, including Axl.At times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicguns4life Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I think we all know "precise" is code for "Slash was sloppy at times." So they disregard how shit the rest of the band is, including Axl.At times? I honestly dare you to find more than 5 times that Slash severely screwed up back in the old days. You are exaggerating it, and Slash was blasted at the time and still got through very precise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustycage Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Let's talk about that precise TIL solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcano62 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I think we all know "precise" is code for "Slash was sloppy at times." So they disregard how shit the rest of the band is, including Axl.At times? I honestly dare you to find more than 5 times that Slash severely screwed up back in the old days. You are exaggerating it, and Slash was blasted at the time and still got through very precise.He couldn't even pull off his own solos. Look for his "take" on Perfect Crime and Out Ta Get Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicguns4life Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I think we all know "precise" is code for "Slash was sloppy at times." So they disregard how shit the rest of the band is, including Axl.At times? I honestly dare you to find more than 5 times that Slash severely screwed up back in the old days. You are exaggerating it, and Slash was blasted at the time and still got through very precise.He couldn't even pull off his own solos. Look for his "take" on Perfect Crime and Out Ta Get Me.I have and they sound amazing. Better than how Axl usually sounded for those songs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 BBF can play 3 gajillion notes per second and DJ isn't a junkie, so obviously they're better than Slash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcano62 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I think we all know "precise" is code for "Slash was sloppy at times." So they disregard how shit the rest of the band is, including Axl.At times? I honestly dare you to find more than 5 times that Slash severely screwed up back in the old days. You are exaggerating it, and Slash was blasted at the time and still got through very precise.He couldn't even pull off his own solos. Look for his "take" on Perfect Crime and Out Ta Get Me.I have and they sound amazing. Better than how Axl usually sounded for those songs.We are not talking about Axl...we are talking about the actual bands then and now.I get it when all else fails attack Axl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I think we're getting back into the "feeling" argument. Precise doesn't mean to the record necessarily. Precise means playing with the band, being able to confidently pull off any song (from the predefined set-list) at any time. They Improvise and embellish, they are tight, just like the old band was... but In a totally different way. This is one of those things that most are never going to agree on, I have no problem with the current band (aside from DJ assbandit) I think they are a great live band... that's all that matters really. Ask yourself this, do they entertain you when I you go to see them...? the answer for me is a definite Yes! I would like more variation and for Axl to get his shit together but the band sound great and that's what we're debating... not Axls ability or lack of to sing in 2011,12,13 or '14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicguns4life Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I... I just can't. Fine, you win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcano62 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I think we're getting back into the "feeling" argument. Precise doesn't mean to the record necessarily. Precise means playing with the band, being able to confidently pull off any song (from the predefined set-list) at any time. They Improvise and embellish, they are tight, just like the old band was... but In a totally different way.This...well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Ask yourself this, do they entertain you when I you go to see them...?Less and less every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfuckinga Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Ask yourself this, do they entertain you when I you go to see them...?Yes they do, I love Guns N' Roses and I love seeing my favorite band live. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 None really. But they cover the stuff pretty well, if a bit mechanical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Signs Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) None of them. Anyone who says otherwise is either a kid who wasn't around for AFD/UYI or hoping to score party passes from the powers that be.You have to laugh at some of these arguments. Who cares if this version plays some of the songs more precisely? At least Bucket put his own spin on the tracks while maintaining the feel of the original. You could find 5 guys at your local tavern who can cover the songs note for note as well & if I wanted to hear that I'd stay home&listen to my old CD's. This is Gn'R not Dream Theater so the raw aspect of the original band is what set them apart and made them unique. Edited January 27, 2014 by xGNRxSTARx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 We wax poetic about Axl's stage presence all the time, and rightfully so, but we often forget to mention that, if he wasn't just as much of a beast on stage, Slash was damn close. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Estranged in 2012 sounded better than the old band ever did playing it. Other than that I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 None of them. Anyone who says otherwise is either a kid who wasn't around for AFD/UYI or hoping to score party passes from the powers that be.You have to laugh at some of these arguments. Who cares if this version plays some of the songs more precisely? At least Bucket put his own spin on the tracks while maintaining the feel of the original. You could find 5 guys at your local tavern who can cover the songs note for note as well & if I wanted to hear that I'd stay home&listen to my old CD's. This is Gn'R not Dream Theater so the raw aspect of the original band is what set them apart and made them unique.The raw aspect of the "original" band was shit for estranged and made for horrible performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I always thought Estranged was one of the better songs on the underwhelming 92 Tokyo release. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Also, I haven't heard many old band versions of you're crazy but the average nuband one is really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustycage Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 There's plenty of good Estranged performances by the old band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 3raw5me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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