Subtle Signs Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Right before the third quarter I heard YCBM playing inside the Stadium. That's awesome. Do you think the Band got a decent chunk of change for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 1 out of 8 members of GNR got paid, more than likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 $3.50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceguy Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Axl, izzy, slash and duff all got paid. Axl has songwriter credit and publishing rights. Izzy has songwriter credit, but not publishing rights. Slash and duff both have publishing rights. No other player, past or present, got a dime out of it. I'd imagine each person got like $500-1000 out of it. Edited February 3, 2014 by niceguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Axl, izzy, slash and duff all got paid.Axl has songwriter credit and publishing rights.Izzy has songwriter credit, but not publishing rights.Slash and duff both have publishing rights.No other player, past or present, got a dime out of it.I'd imagine each person got like $500-1000 out of it.Does Matt not get anything? That's one song where his drumming really stands out. Edited February 3, 2014 by Amir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I thought they showed Duff right before the kickoff as it was playing, but it might have been a guy that looked like him, or my imagination. Either way it was surprising to hear considering they usually play Jungle if they play GNR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liers Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Axl probably got enough to keep playing the song live instead of something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 He would have given up his share of the money to get tickets.http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/story/0ap2000000319963/article/duff-mckagan-seahawks-are-the-punk-rockers-of-the-nfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcano62 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Axl, izzy, slash and duff all got paid.Axl has songwriter credit and publishing rights.Izzy has songwriter credit, but not publishing rights.Slash and duff both have publishing rights.No other player, past or present, got a dime out of it.I'd imagine each person got like $500-1000 out of it.Does Matt not get anything? That's one song where his drumming really stands out.Nobody got fuck all..Niceguy has no fuckin' clue what he posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Each band member got a roll in the hay with Bruno Mars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trqster Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 It's great to see that real Gn'R music has reached cult classic status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I thought they showed Duff right before the kickoff as it was playing, but it might have been a guy that looked like him, or my imagination. Either way it was surprising to hear considering they usually play Jungle if they play GNRDuff was there. He has been saying he was going during last week. He even wrote an article on nfl.com. And he was interviewed in NFL network a few days ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ88 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Duff is a Seattle boy, so I'm pretty sure he would be at the game Edited February 3, 2014 by RJ88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlrosefan4life Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Duff is a Seattle boy, so I'm pretty sure he would be at the game Duff went to the game I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val22 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Cool I missed that but many times I've heard "Welcome to the Jungle" played at different football games, so I'm sure the original members are getting paid.I don't think you can use a song without the writer's consent and you don't want to mess with Axl, because you will be hearing from his lawyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumblefeet Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 A year's rent for an abandoned manhattan apartment? Still glad they didn't use Bieber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Axl, izzy, slash and duff all got paid.Axl has songwriter credit and publishing rights.Izzy has songwriter credit, but not publishing rights.Slash and duff both have publishing rights.No other player, past or present, got a dime out of it.I'd imagine each person got like $500-1000 out of it.Does Matt not get anything? That's one song where his drumming really stands out.Nobody got fuck all..Niceguy has no fuckin' clue what he posts.Nope, he's pretty bang on with respect to which individuals were likely to get paid.Any venue that plays a recorded song must pay royalties. Doesn't matter if it's a stadium, arena, or bar. It's why ASCAP exists (the Canadian equivalent is SOCAN). If you have songwriting/recording/publishing rights to a song, you are owed money when it is played at a venue for an event. No clue how much each person makes for a song that appears at a sports game, but I can't see it being a ton of money. I think $500-$1000 is on the high side. I'm also unsure if the importance of the event matters as well. The fact that it was the Super Bowl may not have brought in more money for those owed money for its performance. Again, we're talking about the paid rights to play the song at the venue. Had the broadcaster wanted to use the song in one of their promos, then you're talking tens, perhaps hundreds, of thousands of dollars. Edited February 3, 2014 by downzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceguy Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Does Matt not get anything? That's one song where his drumming really stands out.Nobody got fuck all..Niceguy has no fuckin' clue what he posts.Amir:Matt gets zero out of it. Royalties don't work that way. Matt was paid a flat-fee for performing that song and he gets nothing in the way of songwriting or publishing royalties, ever. Not from album sales, public performances, licensing, zero.Remember that song by Meatloaf, "I would do anything for love"? Yeah, the chick who sang the counterpoint to Meatloaf got paid a flat fee and nothing more. It may seem harsh, but it's business. Matt gets nothing.Volcano:I feel no need to justify why I'm pretty accurate in my post, so I won't list how I know how these things work.Obviously, I don't know the precise details of GNR's legal arrangements, but I'm likely very close. This is how these things work.Perhaps you would feel better if I said DJ gets $100million every time someone utters the word GNR. So, fine, DJ and BBF got all of the money. OK, happy now? Edited February 3, 2014 by niceguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcano62 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Does Matt not get anything? That's one song where his drumming really stands out.Nobody got fuck all..Niceguy has no fuckin' clue what he posts.Amir:Matt gets zero out of it. Royalties don't work that way. Matt was paid a flat-fee for performing that song and he gets nothing in the way of songwriting or publishing royalties, ever. Not from album sales, public performances, licensing, zero.Remember that song by Meatloaf, "I would do anything for love"? Yeah, the chick who sang the counterpoint to Meatloaf got paid a flat fee and nothing more. It may seem harsh, but it's business. Matt gets nothing.Volcano:I feel no need to justify why I'm pretty accurate in my post, so I won't list how I know how these things work.Obviously, I don't know the precise details of GNR's legal arrangements, but I'm likely very close. This is how these things work.Perhaps you would feel better if I said DJ gets $100million every time someone utters the word GNR. So, fine, DJ and BBF got all of the money. OK, happy now?Do you understand English? I said nobody got fuck all. Maybe Black Frog but even then....I'm pretty sure the stadiums pay a fee in lump sum to the labels.So I am maybe wrong...the label profits from shit like this, not the artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfuckinga Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceguy Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 [?Do you understand English? I said nobody got fuck all. Maybe Black Frog but even then....I'm pretty sure the stadiums pay a fee in lump sum to the labels.So I am maybe wrong...the label profits from shit like this, not the artist.You're parroting Axl's paranoia. The "labels" don't count for much anymore. Not only that, but Axl, slash, and duff actually negotiated huge power and control over their work. This is partly due to their savvy (all 3 are pretty damn savvy), partly due to the fact they were so huge that the execs had no choice but to cave to their demands. They did indeed get paid. And sync fees for the Super Bowl are likely significantly larger than normal games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) I want to say the NFL pays a flat fee to Axl, Duff, and Slash for GNR songs at the beginning of the year but I don't know how that would work with individual stadium licenses. Edited February 3, 2014 by IncitingChaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowmass Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Whatever money Slash & Duff et al make off of GnR via sales, radio, sporting games etc.....I'm sure it pisses Axl/TB off. Edited February 3, 2014 by Snowmass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) I want to say the NFL pays a flat fee to Axl, Duff, and Slash for GNR songs at the beginning of the year but I don't know how that would work with individual stadium licenses.Look up what ASCAP is and what it does and you'll have your answer. The NFL, or any other sporting event, does not negotiate with certain artists to play their songs at their games. The venues are responsible for paying a royalty each time a song is played, which is collected by ASCAP, which in turns pays the artist (or whoever owns the recording/publishing rights). The label would get a piece for the recording rights, and whoever owns the publishing rights would get a piece. It's why if you ever hear a band perform a cover at a concert, the venue is still responsible for paying the person who who holds the publishing rights to that covered song. If the venue is playing the actual recording (for example, over the venue's sound system prior to the band hitting the stage), then the person or entity owning the recording rights would get a cut. In other words, Volcano is talking out of his ass again. Edited February 3, 2014 by downzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfuckinga Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 So that's it then. That's why GNR gigs cost so much this time around, they added more covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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