username Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 After Slash quit, he did some "opposite of GnR" type things. Actually to be fair, quite a few of his guest appearances are cringe-worthy. This is just a taste. Enjoy!http://www.youtube.com/watch ?v=dVMoEnpl66Yhttp://www.youtube.com/watch ?v=oaUqIFMkm-sIt's funny. When someone criticizes GnR your standard rebuttal is "YEAH BUT SLASH.......".That's sort of childish. It's like a little kid who did something bad and then starts by shouting "Yeah but he.....".Why don't you try to accept people's criticism as criticism towards GnR. It has NOTHING to do with what Slash does these days What he does now is completely irrelevant when you're comparing classic GnR and current GnR. That's what this thread was about.Well naturally I disagree. You seem to have missed a few things and I'd say some of your logic is flawed. Let's clear that up, shall we?Firstly, the thread asked if newGnR is the complete opposite of oldGnR. That's what the thread asked, right? Right. So when discussing something like that, sometimes it's important to explore what might also be considered the "opposite" of oldGnR. Secondly, Slash used to be in oldGnR. Right? Right. Therefore his side projects are fair game as a reference point for showing examples of what also might be considered the "complete opposite of oldGnR". I happen to think the examples I posted demonstrate an oldGnR member partaking in opposite-of-oldGnR activities. I could be wrong. Thirdly, as I wrote in my post (but which you didn't seem to... read), the songs I linked to were done shortly after Slash left GnR, not these days or is doing now like you said in your post. So taking all this into account, it just might be not completely irrelevant after all. Ya wanna talk about oldGnR, then ya get to talk about Slash. See how that works?By all means though, have at it. I think it's an interesting thread- I just wanted to add my little 2 cents. Your little 2 cents that involve needlessly bringing your opinion about Slash's post-GnR work into this when it's entirely irrelevant to the topic and trying to divert the conversation away from how New GnR compares to the original. I believe that's what hip urban youth calls "butthurt". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Rather than bring up silly one performance negatives in some weird way to try and stir up crap, can't we all just stick to the actual facts? Sure, I could combat another poster's attempts to ridicule Slash by posting videos of Axl in the yellow raincoat completely destroying his own lyrics to two different songs. Or I could mention his artistic integrity of playing weddings or celeb birthday parties. But I won't go that route. No need, it just brings unnecessary negativity to the forum.I think the key points should be kept to what is really important for a band.Music. Touring. Interaction with their fans.Music.Old band released six albums in nine years.Since then, Axl has released ONE album in 17 years.Duff/Izzy/Slash have all released approx TEN albums each during that same time period.TouringOld band toured a lot, and played a lot of different songs.Axl once said he would NEVER become an artist who just toured their old songs. So obviously his mindset has changed 100% since then.Duff/Izzy/Slash tour their new stuff and don't mainly rely on 20-25 year old material.Interaction with fans.Old band did TONS of interviews. Axl was extremely media friendly. Old band put out TONS of music videos.Today, Axl rarely does interviews. GnR doesn't put out music videos.Duff/Izzy/Slash......Duff writes for a newspaper. Duff/Slash are extremely fan friendly. Lots of interviews and interactions with fans. Not sure about Izzy.So yea - the new GnR is nothing like the old GnR.One band routinely put out music, music videos, and was very fan friendly.The current band hasn't put out an album, and aren't really allowed to talk about GnR news when they do do interviews.Since the old band, Axl has only put out one album, rarely does interviews and reacts with fans, doesn't do music videos, etc.Yes. Completely opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Your little 2 cents that involve needlessly bringing your opinion about Slash's post-GnR work into this when it's entirely irrelevant to the topic and trying to divert the conversation away from how New GnR compares to the original. I believe that's what hip urban youth calls "butthurt". Sorry pal, but if we're talkin about oldGnR, then we get to talk about oldGnR members' musical endeavors. I am ever so sorry my posts bother you so much- perhaps you should try out the ignore function since I seem to evoke a certain amount of disgruntlement from you on a regular basis. To be very clear, I'm not trying to divert the topic away from anything. Slash's guest spots provide a contrasting reference point for how GnR fans might judge or perceive both new and old GnR. Think about that for a moment, if you will. It's really not that complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercourse Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 After Slash quit, he did some "opposite of GnR" type things. Actually to be fair, quite a few of his guest appearances are cringe-worthy. This is just a taste. Enjoy! It's funny. When someone criticizes GnR your standard rebuttal is "YEAH BUT SLASH.......".That's sort of childish. It's like a little kid who did something bad and then starts by shouting "Yeah but he.....".Why don't you try to accept people's criticism as criticism towards GnR. It has NOTHING to do with what Slash does these days What he does now is completely irrelevant when you're comparing classic GnR and current GnR. That's what this thread was about.It's all they have left.When this saga started Axl was a buff, fierce, global superstar who had a vision of music sooooo far above that of his then bandmates that they all had to go.Exciting place for them all to start.All they have now is a doughy, bored and artistly flatlined singer, dialling in 27 year old songs with a human backing track while his "Mom" keeps all the bad people away. And low and behold, the shambolic alcholic cartoon of a guitar player whom everybody though would be found decaying in a flea pit hotel is still artisically productive, touring, world famous and most improtantly a happy sober family man. Who would have thought?You're talking about Axl like he's a hobo lol. The man is rich as fuck and does whatever the shit he wants. Just because he very rarely releases music doesn't mean he's 'artistly flatlined'. For all we know there is brilliant material in the vault.He never released a bad album of original material imo.Don't know where you got the sense of me describing Axl as a "hobo", I made no reference to his wealth or place of residence.He can do what he wants for sure, like get fat and play weddings for example while his peers of old like Bono, Hetfield and Bon Jovi release albums, stay fit and focused and remain relevant.He is an artist that can't be arsed writing with his band of ten years or releasing music. He released one album in two decades....if that is not artistically flatlined then I'm fucked if I know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercourse Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Your little 2 cents that involve needlessly bringing your opinion about Slash's post-GnR work into this when it's entirely irrelevant to the topic and trying to divert the conversation away from how New GnR compares to the original. I believe that's what hip urban youth calls "butthurt". Sorry pal, but if we're talkin about oldGnR, then we get to talk about oldGnR members' musical endeavors. I am ever so sorry my posts bother you so much- perhaps you should try out the ignore function since I seem to evoke a certain amount of disgruntlement from you on a regular basis. To be very clear, I'm not trying to divert the topic away from anything. Slash's guest spots provide a contrasting reference point for how GnR fans might judge or perceive both new and old GnR. Think about that for a moment, if you will. It's really not that complicated. Explain in simple terms what you mean by "Slash's guest spots provide a contrasting reference point for how GnR fans might judge or perceive both new and old GnR."So if Slash played on a few shit songs it means I should like the new GNR more? What has Slash's work outside GNR got to do with the quality of the work he did inside of it?Why would Slash's guest spots affect anyones opinion of him as a player in old GNR versus the new? Do you think people are that shallow? Are you that shallow?Axl wore shorts and a fur coat in public for fuck sake...It didn't affect my opinion of his work as lead singer of GNR at all. The same for the millions of fans that followed him at one time.So...what's your point?I think you're just a bit butthurt about Slash's great career without Axl, you tried a cheap shot on Slash, you got called out on it and now you're a bit upset for looking like a petty little girl. Edited February 5, 2014 by Intercourse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 One thing that's the opposite of the old days in the drug usage. The current band don't seem to be shooting heroin on regular basis. Even the ones that drink don't drink and come on stage like some of the old lineup did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I would say not the complete opposite. Promo down, 90s up. Not completely coincidentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 One thing that's the opposite of the old days in the drug usage. The current band don't seem to be shooting heroin on regular basis. Even the ones that drink don't drink and come on stage like some of the old lineup did. That is bollocks. Stinson and Pitman are always bladdered. Also, I do not know about being drunk on stage but Axl these days is basically a walking balloon of booze with a silly moustache plonked ontop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercourse Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 One thing that's the opposite of the old days in the drug usage. The current band don't seem to be shooting heroin on regular basis. Even the ones that drink don't drink and come on stage like some of the old lineup did. That is bollocks. Stinson and Pitman are always bladdered. Also, I do not know about being drunk on stage but Axl these days is basically a walking balloon of booze with a silly moustache plonked ontop.HA HA!! coke on my work PC monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 . That is bollocks. Stinson and Pitman are always bladdered. Also, I do not know about being drunk on stage but Axl these days is basically a walking balloon of booze with a silly moustache plonked ontop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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