moreblack Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I agree that Richard, Ron, and even Ashba make for a pretty formidable guitar combination. Honestly none of the bands anyone has mentioned has better "guitar talent". I wouldn't say that, I give a lot of props to the Maiden guys for giving each other the perfect platform to shine together, much more natural chemistry/balance than I see in the 3 Guns guys. Someone mentioned Doug Aldrich and Reb Beach of Whitesnake, those two are good enough to take over anyone's lead spot, chops for days and they compliment each other well.Vai had this touring lineup of Tony McAlpine, Dave Weiner, and Billy Sheehan that was incredible together. Haven't seen anything like it since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Coma Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 I agree that Richard, Ron, and even Ashba make for a pretty formidable guitar combination. Honestly none of the bands anyone has mentioned has better "guitar talent". I wouldn't say that, I give a lot of props to the Maiden guys for giving each other the perfect platform to shine together, much more natural chemistry/balance than I see in the 3 Guns guys. Someone mentioned Doug Aldrich and Reb Beach of Whitesnake, those two are good enough to take over anyone's lead spot, chops for days and they compliment each other well.Vai had this touring lineup of Tony McAlpine, Dave Weiner, and Billy Sheehan that was incredible together. Haven't seen anything like it since. Very cool insight guys thanks! Seems Maiden guitarists are getting a lot of love here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) @Moreblack,I agree that both Maiden and Whitesnakes guitar players are great, but I do think BBF is better than all of them individually. For me, BBF is a virtuoso, he is the cream of the crop technically. Richard is above average, and Ashba has a good tone. I'll give him that. But having BBF does bring them up in quality imo.But I agree that whomever Vai or Satriani or Malmsteen is playing with, those are the best "guitar bands." Edited March 31, 2014 by Mike420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 @Moreblack,I agree that both Maiden and Whitesnakes guitar players are great, but I do think BBF is better than all of them individually. For me, BBF is a virtuoso, he is the cream of the crop technically. Richard is above average, and Ashba has a good tone. I'll give him that. But having BBF does bring them up in quality imo.But I agree that whomever Vai or Satriani or Malmsteen is playing with, those are the best "guitar bands."Thing is, with Satch and Yngwie, usually there is only themselves as lead guitarist. There's no one to trade with or develop any kind of partnership or chemistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 @Moreblack,Very true, the same goes for Van Halen. But I still would take one Eddie, or one Vai, over all three from the eagles or both from Maiden and Whitesnake. But that's just me, not trying to create another guitar war thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Coma Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 @Moreblack,Very true, the same goes for Van Halen. But I still would take one Eddie, or one Vai, over all three from the eagles or both from Maiden and Whitesnake. But that's just me, not trying to create another guitar war thread What's wrong with a guitar war?? So Eddie or Vai over eagles maiden whitesnake and current Guns? Rank them for me if you are bored enough to do so lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlashisGOD Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) I'd take Randy Rhodes over Eddie anyday. Eddie was all wank, albeit very good at it. Randy had feeling, wank, and an ear for writing a good song.I still think Maiden's guitarists are some of the best out there but I guess part of that is because they are one of my favorite bands of all time so I'm somewhat biased.Hell, I think Slash is better than all of Axl's current guitarists. Edited March 31, 2014 by SlashisGOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 For me, Eddie Van Halen is the best guitarist you can go and see that is still playing. I'm assuming you want people that it is still possible to go and see, not all time. If so here is my 2014 list of best guitar concerts to attend:1. Van Halen2. NUgnr (this choice is because of the songs, and partly BBF)3. Slash 4. Prince5. AC/DC (if they do in fact tour)6. Yngwie Malmsteen7. Steve Vai8. Satriani or chickefoot, whichever you can see.9. Buckethead10. Aerosmith (again because of the songs)HM: Jeff Beck, BB King, Iron Maiden, Whitesnake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I'd take Randy Rhodes over Eddie anyday. Eddie was all wank, albeit very good at it. Randy had feeling, wank, and an ear for writing a good song.I still think Maiden's guitarists are some of the best out there but I guess part of that is because they are one of my favorite bands of all time so I'm somewhat biased.Hell, I think Slash is better than all of Axl's current guitarists.See these are what starts the "guitar wars" I spoke of....Randy was great, a true legend of the instrument. But EVH is in the revolutionary catagory, Randy was not. Eddie was all wank, lol. The man has one of the best, and most unique "feels" for instrument ever, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Eddie Van Halen "all wank" ?Classic "I've never actually listened to a VH album" comment.It's just blatantly not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlashisGOD Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I think his strongest material was written after Sammy joined. I'm not a huge VH fan at all, but before that it was all about guitar acrobatics, but later it became about writing a good song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faxl Rows Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Guthrie Govan is one to watch out for, plays in Steven Wilson's solo band and was on his last album. He could potentially go toe to toe with Ron, not even joking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlashisGOD Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I was watching an instructional video of Guthrie's and he blew me away. Dude has serious chops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I think his strongest material was written after Sammy joined. I'm not a huge VH fan at all, but before that it was all about guitar acrobatics, but later it became about writing a good song.This comment....Speachless.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Mike, I can hear "Dirty Movies" playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Mike, I can hear "Dirty Movies" playing FUCK YA!!!! For the record, I love the Sammy era, but come on... Everyone should know by how great classic Van Halen was. Edited March 31, 2014 by Mike420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlashisGOD Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Eh, well just my thoughts on VH. I own a few albums of both the Roth era and the Sammy era and the latter gives me more enjoyment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Slash featuring Myles Kennedy and the conspirators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Coma Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Slash featuring Myles Kennedy and the conspirators.Who are the other guitar players involved with them? Not a fan of any vids I've seen of Myles singing gnr but I hear he was cool with alter bridge.. O wait nvm I absolutely loved his performance when he took over for Markie Mark in that movie Edited March 31, 2014 by Estranged Coma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbhutto Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Technically BBF is a lot better than most guitar players but you can say the same for a lot of the ppl on youtube orwherever (I remember reading something about 'MIT guitarists)To me, this lineup isn't shit unless / until they actually do something (granted, it's out of their control) I admittedlyhaven't listened to much of BBF's solo stuff though. Don't get me wrong, I think they have a lot of potential there,at least more than some people seem to give them credit for. To be completely honest though I just don't get thesame "aura" or whatever you want to call it from these guys that I got from Bucket or Finck, those 2 had exactlywhat Axl needed. Finck to sorta capture Slash'smore bluesy feel as well as the ability to do the morecontemporary / industrial stuff and then Bucket to basically take things to the next level. Then again, with Finckand Bucket it was a completely different situation. Edited March 31, 2014 by jbhutto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRanOutOfIdeas Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) There's a bunch of players that are better than the GNR players but a lot of them have already been named. I'm gonna throw Rory Gallagher into the pile though, since, you know, my profile picture and whatnot.In terms of a three-guitar dynamic, I'd agree I'm more of an Eagles guy and there's no denying Iron Maiden's work. I'm really surprised that Lynyrd Skynyrd hasn't been mentioned. I think Allen Collins is a ridiculously underrated guitar-genius and Gary Rossington is one of the most criminally under-appreciated rhythm guitarists of all time. Ed King was a muscular mastro who could dual with Allen and although Steve Gaines wasn't as powerful, he had a wonderful organic feel that gelled incredibly well with the band.In terms of GNR, I think Buckethead is a fantastic guitarist but he's way too damn idiosyncratic. He wasn't a great fit for the band. BBF takes some of Buckethead's ability and adds a lot more cohesion to the band dynamic. Richard is also a great fit and I think he's too good for being just a rhythm guy. Sack Ashba and let Richard and BBF take a dual-lead approach; Richard can do the main riffs and Bumble can shred all over it. They have a chemistry like Gary Rossington and Allen Collins had (Although more technically proficient instead of emotional).I wouldn't mind having Robin back because I think he gelled well with the band, but I'm always gonna feel like he's slightly out of place since he comes from the Industrial music background. DJ doesn't have that problem and although I will admit that he has the image (And he doesn't fuck up the Nightrain solo like Robin did), he's still an average guitarist and a complete fucking tool. Edited April 1, 2014 by IRanOutOfIdeas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerousCurves Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) I'm going to go with the classic - Joe Satriani. Surfing With the Alien is one of my favorite albums all these years later. Crushing Day, in particular, makes me want to open the sunroof and floor it. Edited April 1, 2014 by DangerousCurves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) Just for fun...With all thid reunion talk, because Duff is playing with Axl, let me go one step further. Honestly how fucking awesome would a Slash/BBF guitar tandom be? I know it would be a little hard for Slash at first, but BBF is a cool dude, and I'm sure he would let Slash do all of his classic stuff, with BBF doing the CD stuff. All BS aside if their is one NUgnr member (excluding Dizzy) that I would want in my ULTIMATE GNR it would be BBF. His presence will never make your band worse, and he does care about the fans. He is the most fan friendly NUgnr member, and Duff really likes him also... Edited April 1, 2014 by Mike420 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbhutto Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 ^How do you get more fan friendly than Bucket, he gave out toys ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Coma Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 Just for fun...With all thid reunion talk, because Duff is playing with Axl, let me go one step further. Honestly how fucking awesome would a Slash/BBF guitar tandom be? I know it would be a little hard for Slash at first, but BBF is a cool dude, and I'm sure he would let Slash do all of his classic stuff, with BBF doing the CD stuff. All BS aside if their is one NUgnr member (excluding Dizzy) that I would want in my ULTIMATE GNR it would be BBF. His presence will never make your band worse, and he does care about the fans. He is the most fan friendly NUgnr member, and Duff really likes him also...I think it be awesome !! Ya know I don't think Slash would have a problem at all really I mean the fans would go nuts so it wouldn't even matter if he fuked up anything at all.. skill wise I mean DJ is along side bumble as we speak lol.In my dream land it be Axl Slash Fortus (izzy involves in songwriting so he doesn't have to even tour) Bumble Duff Tommy any drummer (Franks cool). No idea how this would work but it's what I want haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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