War2k14 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Since October 1996 when That Fax was sent to MTV that Slash was out of the band... Axl has been focusing his efforts on 'Taking over the world' apparently at first with Duff, then a couple months later without. Axl hired a bassist that could both drink as much as duff and had punk rock roots. He made a rhythm guitar caliber player a lead player, he quit, and then Axl got Bucket and Brain. Tons of instrumental ideas recorded on dat, a song with Shaq? Bumble replacing Bucket, Brain coming in, Fortus being under utilized but replacing Paul... Fragments of riffs looped for solos and five guitarists recording a song as SIMPLEX as CD. These things happened.New year eve shows, Rio, New Years eve shows, The 2002 Abortion. From pudgy to six pack to pudgy who gives a damn hair extensions jerseys. But No Rasp. His voice was weak. This was over 14 years ago.We got all the A list tracks. That WAS CHINESE DEMOCRACY... which Axl described as all of the guitar driven tracks at one time... So sad so sad.I go back to Mr. Street of Dreams Soundcloud I listen to the Illusions instrumentals... there's magic. I listen to the Cd Instrumentals and... Well... Not every impressive as you know. Axl said... how do you take something That was with a new group and make it into what it's not -terrible paraphrase... You Don't Axl, You Can't.I loved the original Blues, the Twat... I thought you had something man... NO.You just had what Guns N' Roses Refused to be...Hired hands at your control.CD has Failed, the New Band... as amazing a show as they put on... they don't have the soul of GNR. They are paid by one man... who wanted to bury his former friends and failed. It is not their fault... in fact it is such a shame that Axl never let them be a true band....The closest we will ever get to a true GNR 2.0 are thos Medleys that Rich and Ron do before songs.. like Madagascar. That is a beautiful medley. But this has gone from Axl's intention to BURY the original GNR to Axl's... playing out when he feels like it with minimal effort.But I'm trying to make my peace with it.Thank You Axl... for still performing. You will always be a legend, be it a legend that threw away the greatest band of all time in favor of NOTHING. Edited March 31, 2014 by War2k14 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) RIR 4 was the end. This is zombie-GNR.But seriously, great post. I agree 100%. Edited March 31, 2014 by ProstituteComa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 If you pretend GnR is like Spinal Tap, it makes it much easier to accept them. One of the new songs will be called Stonehenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War2k14 Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 RIR 4 was the end. This is zombie-GNR.But seriously, great post. I agree 100%.Because Yeah... in 2006-2010 Axl was still playing with the passion we came to love him for. I remember building up Rio 11 to a friend, being like, you won't believe how Axl is ripping it in this age... and then. WOW. It was like.. There's not even a word for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 The show ain't over till the fat lady sings.... oh, wait... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Declarations like "this is the end" are a little dramatic and we all know that the old band broke up because of two huge egos, nit-pick details all you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War2k14 Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) This Medley is probably 5 Percent of what these guys are capable of. Such a wasteAxl never making Richard Lead was maybe one of his biggest downfalls ever. Edited March 31, 2014 by War2k14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin White Duke Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 ... my friend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Rock in Rio 4 was the moment he needed to rise to if he wanted to take everything he'd fought for to the next level, he fucked it way up, I just don't see how he can regain that momentum or opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 They should Bring Back Adler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterdays-Civil-War Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 RIR 4 was the end.In hindsight I have to say that I agree. I was just in denial about it for a long time.I could just say that we are all overreacting, and that we should wait until the Vegas shows...but that sounds like something someone in denial would say. How much further back do we need to keep pushing back dates to wait for something new?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 RIR 4 was the end. This is zombie-GNR.But seriously, great post. I agree 100%.Because Yeah... in 2006-2010 Axl was still playing with the passion we came to love him for. I remember building up Rio 11 to a friend, being like, you won't believe how Axl is ripping it in this age... and then. WOW. It was like.. There's not even a word for it. Wow, same happened to me. I actually went to my friends house to watch Rio. They were casual fans. By Estranged I wanted to be excited but the bloated face and the terrible voice were just too much. Worst moment as a GNR fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War2k14 Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Declarations like "this is the end" are a little dramatic and we all know that the old band broke up because of two huge egos, nit-pick details all you want.What would you call 20 years and not one music video? Not one bad ass rock and roll track.... Sadly in my opinion OMG is the closest they ever came to recapturing any of the bad-ass gnr vibe. And that was 1999 with distorted vox, it was a 'demo' that found it's way onto an Arnold Movie Track. Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 So what's the point here? Is this your goodbye thread or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War2k14 Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 So what's the point here? Is this your goodbye thread or something?This is my saying, i will follow updates on Axl, cuz he's Axl, I'm just not expecting any more releases or anymore rasp. Time's running out and it is almost up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I guess it's just one more "I'm frustrated about GNR" thread... aka what keeps this place alive when GNR is not touring aka 80% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I really like Chinese Democracy and the 06 - 2010 touring was full of outstanding performances live-wise so I wouldn't say there's been nothing from the band, there's been about 10% of the potential released though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War2k14 Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) 10 percent, i donno man... you get guys like bucket, fink - in his own way, richard, bumble.... and I'd say it's way less than ten percent Edited March 31, 2014 by War2k14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I'm banking that they got stuff in the famous Axl vault though that we might hear the fruition of one day... might be chasing shadows though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War2k14 Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Only when Axl Dies... imagine how TB will capitalize. WOWZERS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 So what's the point here? Is this your goodbye thread or something? This is my saying, i will follow updates on Axl, cuz he's Axl, I'm just not expecting any more releases or anymore rasp. Time's running out and it is almost up.OK. I've been there since '11. Welcome to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War2k14 Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 We are all in the same club brotha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 This could have been a great band. Not GnR. But a great band. Then the guys who made the music left (Bucket, Finck, maybe even Paul and Brain) and all the songs got bloated and ruined. Then GnR turned into a boring hired hands tribute band to itself. Now they just suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieSheen Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Axl should've packed it in after the disaster that was Rock In Rio in October 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nulla Lex Ink. Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I think the band might be salvageable if they get back a few former members from the 1999-2002 period. Like someone else said, it may not be GNR, but it'd still be pretty great. Sad thing about the current band is that it's primarily made up of session guys and people in it for the money. Don't get me wrong, it's great that these guys are getting more recognition and have found a steady gig, but it's at the cost of creativity and actual music making, from the looks of it. But then again, I'm pretty uninformed about Guns' current situation, so I'm probably wrong with something I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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