maynard Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 He should fire Beta and Ron should quit. Forum would be on fire for weeks.You aren't satisfied with all the whining and crying about rape and not being able to post about tweets?I don't even know what is that all about man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Ok let´s say Beta supported the DVD release behind Axl´s back? Why would she do that? She knows better than anything that Axl gets really pissed off when people do things behind his back. Beta knows what happened to Doug Goldstein when he scheduled an European Tour and Axl didn´t know about it. I don´t think she would be so fuckin´stupid and make the same mistake.Now if Axl didn´t want that DVD, then why on earth did he bother to hire rockfuel to make it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I think Axl probably fires people and changes his mind about releases on a regular basis...then changes it back again. Repeat ad infinitum. It just the way things roll I guess. I can see that TB might be put in a difficult position of honouring commitments if Axl were to change his mind about something. All supposition though - I don't have a clue what really goes on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 Years Of Silence Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Is it a stretch to think that GN'R would have taken a large $ hit if they didn't release it? Or that Axl changed his mind about releasing it because he didn't like something about it, perhaps some of the vocals? Certainly would have put RockFuel in a bad position. Maybe TB even lied about it being a former member holding it up rather than admit it was Axl and once RockFuel got their lawyers on it the story fell apart. Axl "I Don't Vant To Do Eet" Rose may be more of the problem than TB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I think Axl probably fires people and changes his mind about releases on a regular basis...then changes it back again. Repeat ad infinitum. It just the way things roll I guess. I can see that TB might be put in a difficult position of honouring commitments if Axl were to change his mind about something. All supposition though - I don't have a clue what really goes on!I think it's a fair bet. About the being fired: MSL says it has happened before, Matt said he'd been fired before the final time, so... Probably not a big deal after all. If TB did somehow push for this dvd to be released, I'm grateful. I hope there's not too much drama going on behind the scenes and Axl is putting a new album together while we speculate about this. (One can dream.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Axl probably knew that they were making the 3d concert, but after it was done he probably didn't want it out. Probably felt there would be a better release to put out at some point. In Axl's mind he doesn't mind paying Rockfuel for their trouble, just like he didn't mind renting an apartment he never saw. Blu ray gets released and Axl probably starts getting emails for interviews about the release and realizes that someone followed through with the release and immediately gets pissed. I wonder if GNR's twitter page has been taken over by Axl? We've seen more answers that are closer to something Axl would say and we've seen more questions answered. Maybe Axl enjoys being able to be GNR rather than Axl Rose. It would be less hostile. Idk all this is probably bs! Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combos Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 All I know is this. Pre Beta management, we had a band consisting of Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven followed by Appetite for Destruction, GNR Lies, UYI 1&2 all in a matter of FOUR YEARS. Post Beta management, we've had two bands of various members, the second of which is a cover band and CD which took 17 years.It doesn't take much of an IQ to deduce things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangoSkank Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) families squabble. not the first or last time beta has quit or been fired. it was over two weeks ago. hopefully cooler heads have prevailed. i don't know what all the drama was between rock fuel & TB or why things got so heated. if rock fuel chooses to shed some light, that would be lovely. i've said all i know.I can't keep up with this shit.Last time I logged on (a day and a half ago):- MSL was banned (but maybe I'm wrong?)- Beta was GNR's manager and Axl's closest confidant, who pulled him out of a downward spiral- Lead singers knew when DVDs of themselves were released (how the hell can he POSSIBLY not have known?)Also there are vaguely cryptic tweets from a production company about working with GNR. For the love of God, we need new music. Edited July 4, 2014 by BangoSkank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.B.O Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 All I know is this. Pre Beta management, we had a band consisting of Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven followed by Appetite for Destruction, GNR Lies, UYI 1&2 all in a matter of FOUR YEARS. Post Beta management, we've had two bands of various members, the second of which is a cover band and CD which took 17 years.It doesn't take much of an IQ to deduce things.This just in! Beta has been the manager for 23 years! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 He should fire Beta and Ron should quit. Forum would be on fire for weeks.You aren't satisfied with all the whining and crying about rape and not being able to post about tweets?I don't even know what is that all about man.You're better off that way. Save yourself from some serious stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangoSkank Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 All I know is this. Pre Beta management, we had a band consisting of Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven followed by Appetite for Destruction, GNR Lies, UYI 1&2 all in a matter of FOUR YEARS. Post Beta management, we've had two bands of various members, the second of which is a cover band and CD which took 17 years.It doesn't take much of an IQ to deduce things.This just in! Beta has been the manager for 23 years!And creative differences, clashing personalities and alcohol abuse had nothing to do with the original break-up! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyrobot Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 OMFG, its IMPOSSIBLE that Axl didn't know about the release of DVD.The @gunsnroses account in Twitter and Facebook have been tweeting about it for centuries. Then videos uploaded to the YouTube channel. Come on, if Axl is aware of some dog being killed by cops somewhere in the USA, then he can't not know about his fucking DVD being released! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotsfired cro Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 if those morons fuck off and he continues to talk with Duff, maybe there is hope.one thing I wonder though, Izzy was the first one that told him to fuck off, later on Izzy was the former member who played most shows with the lunatic, yet, in the last 4 years he seems to be completely gonne from Ax's radar. So to paraphrase Don'tcry video - where is Izzy!?...also, Ax control freak not to know about releasing official live dvd? C'mon, give me a break! He fired the morons for other reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PITBOSS Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 this news most likely doesn't matter much as she's probably been hired back by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangoSkank Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 this news most likely doesn't matter much as she's probably been hired back by now.A very, very good point. And if it's true we wouldn't know for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pele Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 MSL gets his info from Jim. in his words "Jim is legit"On the Beta sacking, Jim says:Families argue,disagree and disagree to disagree...But at the end of the day are still familiesThat's all I'm going to offer here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Does anyone have any actual information? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 All the information we have is in the title of this thread. The rest we made up all by ourselves. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Does anyone have any actual information?The only solid thing I know of is Beta denying the rumor to Subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Signs Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 MSL gets his info from Jim. in his words "Jim is legit"On the Beta sacking, Jim says:Families argue,disagree and disagree to disagree...But at the end of the day are still familiesThat's all I'm going to offer here.Gn'R fan since '87 here. Am I supposed to know who "Jim" is? Someone please Gn'R-educate me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 MSL gets his info from Jim. in his words "Jim is legit"On the Beta sacking, Jim says:Families argue,disagree and disagree to disagree...But at the end of the day are still familiesThat's all I'm going to offer here.Gn'R fan since '87 here. Am I supposed to know who "Jim" is? Someone please Gn'R-educate me.I believe it's someone on MSL's forum. Don't know more specifics though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 There is definitely no lack of wierd shit going on in GNR land, why does everything this band do turn into a whole situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 There is definitely no lack of wierd shit going on in GNR land, why does everything this band do turn into a whole situation?I don't know, but I'm sure it has nothing to do with Axl. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Signs Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 MSL gets his info from Jim. in his words "Jim is legit"On the Beta sacking, Jim says:Families argue,disagree and disagree to disagree...But at the end of the day are still familiesThat's all I'm going to offer here.Gn'R fan since '87 here. Am I supposed to know who "Jim" is? Someone please Gn'R-educate me.I believe it's someone on MSL's forum. Don't know more specifics though So it's some random dude from MSL's forum? I mean I know MSL would have more inside info than the average fan. Is this Jim fella the 2014 version of Mysteron? Those were the days at HTGTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyrobot Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 MSL gets his info from Jim. in his words "Jim is legit"On the Beta sacking, Jim says:Families argue,disagree and disagree to disagree...But at the end of the day are still familiesThat's all I'm going to offer here.Prolly something to do with his last will and stuff.... "Family" disagreements are usually based on money and properties. And those people are not his family in the end. Even if he treats them and considers them like family, they are not.Too bad Axl doesnt have a spouse or children. Now THAT would be the end of TB.Ever watched the russian movie "Elena"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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