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Axl in the Wilderness Years (1994-2000), a photographic and oral history

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I remain convinced that Axl Rose is actually Richard D. James/Aphex Twin :lol:

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Axl, Halloween 1995, October 31st 1995

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Fun read, where did you get this pic from?

Appeared on a different forum originally, posted here with the caption

"A halloween with Axl Rose - Brooks"

SS and I deduced it's Halloween '95 because Axl has the same bandana on, and looks exactly the same, as he does on 10-28-1995. Same haircut, same facial hair, same bandana, and since it's a Halloween photo, it's very possible the three pix are only three days apart.

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who are the others in that pic? This was posted on Facebook many times as 95/96, but no names were mentioned

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He seems to be hiding his hair, or lack there of a lot in the mid 90's

I remember the period well, it was a mess when no one knew what the hell was going on

Look at the rollercoaster pic tho. That's like 97 and his hairline looks the same as it did in the '87 sessions where he has his hair gelled back.

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What's with your obsession of wanting Axl's face to be chubby when he very well looks like a normal guy. "Grew a beard to hide his fat face" you are kidding me right? Good info, I'v seen it all before minus one picture and they really tell where he was at the time. No need to dig deeper, he lost his band and nearly friends to drugs. I feel a better understanding of him as a human being and the decisions made at the time. I'd be interested to hear how you know his weight fluctuated from 137 to 145 cause that's a very personal claim to make.

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What's with your obsession of wanting Axl's face to be chubby when he very well looks like a normal guy. "Grew a beard to hide his fat face" you are kidding me right? Good info, I'v seen it all before minus one picture and they really tell where he was at the time. No need to dig deeper, he lost his band and nearly friends to drugs. I feel a better understanding of him as a human being and the decisions made at the time. I'd be interested to hear how you know his weight fluctuated from 137 to 145 cause that's a very personal claim to make.

1990:

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1994:

"Rose refused to be interviewed about Everly's accusations, but in court papers he claims that the 5'6", 104-lb. Everly provoked him—Rose is 5'9", 145 lbs.—and that his actions were purely in self-defense. A friend, who agreed to speak for Rose anonymously, concedes that the couple "did have a combative relationship. But," she adds, "Erin portrays herself as the victim and him as the evil aggressor. From what I witnessed, she was the aggressor." Everly, in turn, denies striking Rose. "That was never my reaction, to hit somebody," she says. "I don't even spank my dogs."

1998:

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That photo in the pink shirt you said was 1990 is actually 1987. And the March photo with Sante D'Orazio, well...that isn't Sante, that's some guy who's got a number of photos with Axl. I think he's from NYC but don't quote me on that though. That IS Sante in the rollercoaster photo however.

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In the OP it says his height is 5'8" at his arrest, I was wondering if he was shrinking, just a typo :)

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In the OP it says his height is 5'8" at his arrest, I was wondering if he was shrinking, just a typo :)

I'm 5'8'' and 1/2'' and depending on who is measuring I either come out 5'9'' or 5'8''.

Axl, statement to the press, March 1994, about "Look At Your Game, Girl":

Q Magazine - March 1994

Bring Out The Manson

Statement from W. Axl Rose concerning the unlisted bonus track, Look At Your Game, Girl by Charles Manson, on Guns N' Roses' new album, The Spaghetti Incident?

It's come to my attention that some people have taken offence to a particular song, Look At Your Game, Girl, on our new album The Spaghetti Incident?. What it all boils down to is this: The Spaghetti Incident? is 13 historical and musical gems that may have been overlooked. For instance, New Rose was one of The Damned's main songs but for whatever reason a lot of the world didn't hear it.

In Indiana, I was ridiculed and physically attacked for my musical tastes, tastes that I never made any effort to hide. I thought it would be interesting for the so called mainstream and the people who were against this material when I was a teenager to actually hear these songs. Maybe they'll hear something they like, and more importantly, maybe they'll go and find the originals better, including Look At Your Game, Girl. The reason we didn't list that song on our album is we wanted to downplay it. We don't give any credit to Charles Manson on the album; it's like a hidden bonus truck.

It's my opinion that the media are enjoying making a big deal out of Guns N' Roses covering a song that Charles Manson recorded, but if another band had recorded that song, it probably wouldn't have been of interest. The media need their "bad guys" to guarantee some ratings, so they use Manson's name coupled with mine to promo their news programs.

However, when I do something positive, like contribute to charity, it's hard to get the news to pick up on those stories. The media is an interesting beast.

Why did I choose to cover that particular song?

Oddly enough, one of the things we do up at my house is have "Name That Artist" contests where we play obscure songs and everyone tries to name the artist. My brother Stuart found Look At Your Game, Girl at a large record chain and, needless to say, he won that round. Personally, I liked the lyrics and the melody of the song. Hearing it shocked me and I thought there might be other people who would like to hear it.

I like the words because, to me, it's about a woman who has thrown things away. She thinks she's gaining love but basically she's gaining sadness. It was very fitting for a personal situation I happened to be in. The song talks about how the girl is insane and playing a mad game. I felt that it was ironic that such a song was recorded by Charles Manson, someone who should know the inner intricacies of madness.

Manson is a dark part of American culture and history. He's the subject of fear and fascination through books, movies, and the interviews he's done. Most people hadn't heard anything Charles Manson recorded.

A lot of people can say I wear the "Charlie Don't Surf" T-shirt for shock value, but I've worn that shirt for the past year on tour, all over the world. Yes, I was trying to make a statement. I wore the T-shirt because a lot of people enjoy playing me as the bad guy and the crazy. Sorry, I'm not that guy. I'm nothing like him. That's what I'm saying. There's a real difference in morals, values and ethics between Manson and myself and that is "Thou shalt not kill," which I don't. I'm by no means a Manson expert or anything, but the things he's done are something I don't believe in. He's a sick individual. Look at Manson and then look at me. We're not the same. Plus, I like the black humor of the "Charlie Don't Surf" line for the movie Apocalypse Now.

I think people think I'm crazy because I believe in telling the truth. I'll admit sometimes I don't do a perfect job of it, but my efforts are true.

It is my understanding that the song was written by Dennis Wilson. To what extent Charles Manson is involved in the publishing, I'm not aware. However, I am donating all my personal profits from having that song on our album to a charity, an environmental group to help protect wildlife and our oceans. In our video for Estranged, which will be the last video for the Use Your Illusion albums, we used dolphins, and this is my way of giving something back to the dolphin, which are endangered and threatened with extinction.

Unfortunately I Don't Surf Either.

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In the OP it says his height is 5'8" at his arrest, I was wondering if he was shrinking, just a typo :)

I'm 5'8'' and 1/2'' and depending on who is measuring I either come out 5'9'' or 5'8''.

Axl, statement to the press, March 1994, about "Look At Your Game, Girl":

Q Magazine - March 1994

Bring Out The Manson

Statement from W. Axl Rose concerning the unlisted bonus track, Look At Your Game, Girl by Charles Manson, on Guns N' Roses' new album, The Spaghetti Incident?

It is my understanding that the song was written by Dennis Wilson. To what extent Charles Manson is involved in the publishing, I'm not aware.

I'm sure he was told this by now but this is the song the Beach Boys ripped off. Biggest facepalm in rock and it's not even a good Beach Boys song. Was this why Sharon Tate was killed and was sending a "message" to Dennis and Terry Melcher? Hard to say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI2aAwyzDeE

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1994?

That was back when Mark Wahlberg had a funky bunch.

That was when Dunk-a-roos were a thing.

Before Clinton got a blowjob.

Pagers were widely used.

The Bieb was born.

Holy shit.

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Impressive.

Now that pic of 1998 from the police report... is it a real photo or a drawing? It always bugged me how that "picture" looks like a comic or something. I hate it.

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Impressive.

Now that pic of 1998 from the police report... is it a real photo or a drawing? It always bugged me how that "picture" looks like a comic or something. I hate it.

It's a drawing from the courtroom.

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