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1 hour ago, Dazey said:

See I get the appeal of vinyl from a nostalgic point of view but for the life of me I can't understand why anybody would want an old cassette deck. Tape players were shite when they were modern. :lol: 

It's a hipster thing.

Alternatively, so as to not be listened on by the Government.

Alternatively, can run on batteries and hence better when off the grid.

Or for after the Apocalypse.

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1 hour ago, Dazey said:

I was born in 79 so I grew up in that era. My first Hi-Fi was something a bit like this. :lol: 

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In fact I think it was exactly this one. :lol: 

My sister had one of those, she's about the same age. I'm a little bit younger so I got the one with double cassette deck plus a CD player on top, but I still needed the cassette decks for my tapes.

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I never had a proper tape player even until I was 15 and could buy one for myself, just had shitty old walkmans before that.  I think there was some old kitchen morphy richards tape radio thing knocking about at some point.  Not a lot of music lovers in my family.  Never had a CD player that weren’t a walkman type until 99 or 00 when my brother got this big fuck off Technics hi-fi, i loved that thing.  

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My first system was a Kenwood joint that was in a cabinet and had tower speakers (Like this one) :lol:

Still remember the first song i played on it

 

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Kept a bunch more retro audio from landfill. And this bright yellow walkman is a powerful chick magnet :headbang:

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I have to admit that I wasnt sure that the Apple earbuds would be compatible :shrugs::lol: 

So much warmer than MP3

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The box of cassettes I bought also came with a copy of GNR Lies, Metallica (Black), STP debut, Waynes World Soundtrack, Bon Jovi Crossroads, a "how to budget" tape from Alabamas Gov. and a few blank tapes still in plastic wrap.

The box also included home recordings of someones band... yeah they even recorded interviews with one another, and took it very seriously. :smiley-confused2::wacko::lol:

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Look at this neat cassette tray. Took me a second to figure this out - how each compartment can hold either cases or just tapes 

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2 hours ago, soon said:

 

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Look at this neat cassette tray. Took me a second to figure this out - how each compartment can hold either cases or just tapes 

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4 hours ago, soon said:

The box of cassettes I bought also came with a copy of GNR Lies, Metallica (Black), STP debut, Waynes World Soundtrack, Bon Jovi Crossroads, a "how to budget" tape from Alabamas Gov. and a few blank tapes still in plastic wrap.

The box also included home recordings of someones band... yeah they even recorded interviews with one another, and took it very seriously. :smiley-confused2::wacko::lol:

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Look at this neat cassette tray. Took me a second to figure this out - how each compartment can hold either cases or just tapes 

Wash your windows.

Also, does that Wayne's World tape have the song Sikamikanico by the RHCP on it? They played that song for the first time live just the other day and I had never heard it before, apparently it was on the Wayne's World soundtrack.

 

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4 hours ago, soon said:

 

Look at this neat cassette tray. Took me a second to figure this out - how each compartment can hold either cases or just tapes 

:lol: If you didn't know that, you're not old enough!

I wonder if people who actually had to make do with cassettes find them great too. I know I don't. I don't miss them. I would just like to be able to play my old tapes again, even just once for old times sake, but I tried my old deck and it doesn't work anymore.

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Definitely the worst of the three formats with no redeeming qualities really. Vinyl is still the best in sound and presentation. Compact Discs are weaker on both fronts but are easier and more convenient pertaining to storage space. Both vinyl and CDs are durable if they're handled correctly - vinyl more high-maintenance. Cassettes however possess the weakest sound, packaging and could very well chew up in your tape recorder on the first playing!

Make sure you have a pencil soon. You'll need it!

Congratulations though on your copy of Trans, surely the strangest album Neil Young recorded.

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I have abuncha of tapes but its all dad rock :lol: Bad Company,  Boston, .38 Special, Steve Miller Band, etc :lol:

Some good stuff like Led Zep II though.

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Tapes were good because they were easy to copy. 

The worst thing about cds was when those spindly little plastic bits in the middle of the case it fitted onto used to snap off and get under the CD and scratch it.

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14 hours ago, EvanG said:

Wash your windows.

Also, does that Wayne's World tape have the song Sikamikanico by the RHCP on it? They played that song for the first time live just the other day and I had never heard it before, apparently it was on the Wayne's World soundtrack.

 

Never washing those windows, you've got me sold and that saving the birds ethos!

It does have that track and its a jam!! Never heard it before either.

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Looking forward to discovering who some of these other tracks are by too.

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14 hours ago, EvanG said:

Wash your windows.

Also, does that Wayne's World tape have the song Sikamikanico by the RHCP on it? They played that song for the first time live just the other day and I had never heard it before, apparently it was on the Wayne's World soundtrack.

 

He's stuffed little bits of paper in the tabs to tape over the fuckers, old school methodology there.

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14 hours ago, Lio said:

:lol: If you didn't know that, you're not old enough!

I wonder if people who actually had to make do with cassettes find them great too. I know I don't. I don't miss them. I would just like to be able to play my old tapes again, even just once for old times sake, but I tried my old deck and it doesn't work anymore.

:lol:

If you still got the tapes maybe get a player? We'll be the cool kids with the cassette players, lol! The ones Ive bought have been for the price of a loaf of bread, maybe worth it for one last listen?

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14 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

Definitely the worst of the three formats with no redeeming qualities really. Vinyl is still the best in sound and presentation. Compact Discs are weaker on both fronts but are easier and more convenient pertaining to storage space. Both vinyl and CDs are durable if they're handled correctly - vinyl more high-maintenance. Cassettes however possess the weakest sound, packaging and could very well chew up in your tape recorder on the first playing!

Make sure you have a pencil soon. You'll need it!

Congratulations though on your copy of Trans, surely the strangest album Neil Young recorded.

To me the 4th format is MP3 and I loathe MP3s. Some are just jarring and painful while others simply lack dynamic. For portable music Im enjoying cassette so far - warmer, realer. But you are right and I should report back after having to deal with a spool of twisted tape on the LRT at rush hour, haha.

Something about Trans on cassette just seems 'right.' 

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Young uns 'll never understand this. :lol: 

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1 hour ago, soon said:

To me the 4th format is MP3 and I loathe MP3s. Some are just jarring and painful while others simply lack dynamic. For portable music Im enjoying cassette so far - warmer, realer. But you are right and I should report back after having to deal with a spool of twisted tape on the LRT at rush hour, haha.

Something about Trans on cassette just seems 'right.' 

Wrong person to discuss all this as I don't listen to MP3s except when investigating music, and I have a strange phobia to listening to music outside: I had a Walkman when I was a child but didn't use that much either. I actually have an IPod but only use it for linguistics audio courses and such like. 

11 minutes ago, Dazey said:

Young uns 'll never understand this. :lol: 

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This mere auxiliary verb,

10 hours ago, spunko12345 said:

The worst thing about cds was when those spindly little plastic bits in the middle of the case it fitted onto used to snap off and get under the CD and scratch it.

produced an effect in me that can only be summarised by the following,

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2 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

Wrong person to discuss all this as I don't listen to MP3s except when investigating music, and I have a strange phobia to listening to music outside: I had a Walkman when I was a child but didn't use that much either. I actually have an IPod but only use it for linguistics audio courses and such like. 

I have the strangest sense that you have passed your phobia of listening to music outside on to me :wow::lol:. Oh well, cant really show-off my walkman in this cold and snow anyways.

As Im sure you know, Neil Young agrees with me about MP3 being shit. He has strong opinions on it! And Im sure that the only linguist that Im familiar with, Chomsky, would disapprove of the neoliberal imposition of MP3.

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53 minutes ago, soon said:

I have the strangest sense that you have passed your phobia of listening to music outside on to me :wow::lol:. Oh well, cant really show-off my walkman in this cold and snow anyways.

As Im sure you know, Neil Young agrees with me about MP3 being shit. He has strong opinions on it! And Im sure that the only linguist that Im familiar with, Chomsky, would disapprove of the neoliberal imposition of MP3.

Have you heard of streaming music from the Internet? Or maybe I am stupid and it's mp3's that are streamed? :lol:

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1 hour ago, SoulMonster said:

Have you heard of streaming music from the Internet? Or maybe I am stupid and it's mp3's that are streamed? :lol:

Haha, I dont use any streaming services. Do you use any streaming services? Maybe I mean 'MP3 and all low res formats.'

As far as I know they arent often MP3 but they also arent nearly as high resolution as I prefer. If you download from Spotify it will offer an MP3, I believe. I think a lot of the low res streaming services offer different formats to different devices, including sometimes MP3.

The songs I download on my computer or phone is MP3 - like if I put in a CD it will convert to MP3. The leaks, as I heard them, were MP3s. iTunes has upgraded but is still shitty sounding.

Speaking of Neil Young though, he has a a high resolution streaming service, like Tidal (which is also artist-owned). Both are more expensive and require more available bandwidth (to get the hi res). So if I spent more dough to up my phone data significantly and paid for a premium streaming service then I could hear those libraries in hi res. Then Id have to buy high res headphones to make that all worth it. Or $5 gets me a nice and warm, analog, pre-loudness-wars collection of classic rock and a chick magnet walkman :headbang:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/22/15394224/neil-young-high-quality-streaming-music-service-xstream-pono

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8 minutes ago, soon said:

Haha, I dont use any streaming services. Do you use any streaming services?

As far as I know they arent often MP3 but they also arent nearly as high resolution as I prefer. If you download from Spotify it will offer an MP3, I believe. I think a lot of the low res streaming services offer different formats to different devices, including sometimes MP3.

The songs I download on my computer or phone is MP3 - like if I put in a CD it will convert to MP3. The leaks, as I heard them, were MP3s. iTunes has upgraded but is still shitty sounding.

Speaking of Neil Young though, he has a a high resolution streaming service, like Tidal (which is also artist-owned). Both are more expensive and require more available bandwidth (to get the hi res). So if I spent more dough to up my phone data significantly and paid for a premium streaming service then I could hear those libraries in hi res. Then Id have to buy high res headphones to make that all worth it. Or $5 gets me a nice and warm, analog, pre-loudness-wars collection of classic rock and a chick magnet walkman :headbang:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/22/15394224/neil-young-high-quality-streaming-music-service-xstream-pono

Neil Young loses me a bit on his audiophile arguments but he is certainly very passionate about it. Created his own format/player - he is very technologically minded - called Pono; it doesn't seem to have been successful,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pono_(digital_music_service)

It is all a bit above me. My eyes glaze over when he discusses it in his autobiography. I still use compact discs for crying out loud; I just can't be arsed to change, and like some sort of packaging. 

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3 hours ago, soon said:

Haha, I dont use any streaming services. Do you use any streaming services? Maybe I mean 'MP3 and all low res formats.'

As far as I know they arent often MP3 but they also arent nearly as high resolution as I prefer. If you download from Spotify it will offer an MP3, I believe. I think a lot of the low res streaming services offer different formats to different devices, including sometimes MP3.

The songs I download on my computer or phone is MP3 - like if I put in a CD it will convert to MP3. The leaks, as I heard them, were MP3s. iTunes has upgraded but is still shitty sounding.

Speaking of Neil Young though, he has a a high resolution streaming service, like Tidal (which is also artist-owned). Both are more expensive and require more available bandwidth (to get the hi res). So if I spent more dough to up my phone data significantly and paid for a premium streaming service then I could hear those libraries in hi res. Then Id have to buy high res headphones to make that all worth it. Or $5 gets me a nice and warm, analog, pre-loudness-wars collection of classic rock and a chick magnet walkman :headbang:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/22/15394224/neil-young-high-quality-streaming-music-service-xstream-pono

I am always late to technological innovations and started streaming music just a few months ago. And I still haven't heard a single podcast. And the streaming was my mostly for my kids, because that is how kids discover and explore music these days. So I got a Spotify Family subscription. It is actually quite fantastic. So much music that I can access anytime. And great for finding new music. 

But I still have hard drives of bootlegs in my safe and winamp in my laptop. Hard-earned rarities that will never end up stream services. 

I have been looking for a turntable lately, though. One of my rare memories from childhood is listening to old vinyl singles on my grandma's turntable. It was one of those glorious machines where you could put a stack of vinyls on top of the turntable and it would drop one after the other down to play. It was dozens of Elvis, Beatles, doo-wop, soul, jazz... Just wondrous. I would sit mesmerised and listen to the scratchy, muffled music while watching the machinery do its thing. I inherited all the singles and now I am looking for one of these classic turntables. Then I am going to listen and just reminisce about simples more innocent days. 

I did buy a turntable recently, though, but one that I can connect to my computer to convert vinyls to mp3. I just it to preserve rare GN'R interviews that I have on vinyl. 

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12 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

Neil Young loses me a bit on his audiophile arguments but he is certainly very passionate about it. Created his own format/player - he is very technologically minded - called Pono; it doesn't seem to have been successful,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pono_(digital_music_service)

It is all a bit above me. My eyes glaze over when he discusses it in his autobiography. I still use compact discs for crying out loud; I just can't be arsed to change, and like some sort of packaging. 

I agree wholeheartedly! 

And I do miss the packaging. I really enjoyed reading absolutely everything on the covers of my favorite vinyls while listening to the music. The lyrics, the credits… just bliss.

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