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1 hour ago, Andy14 said:

Czech Republic. 13 degrees and constant rain :cry:

 

Btw. Looks like @Frey can appreciate a good post :popcorn:

 

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Well I appreciated the trust in my Axl porn handling capabilities and she agreed with my opinion on Slash. Reason enough to like I say, gyrating ginger hips or not :awesomeface:

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8 minutes ago, tiutso said:

Sorry for chiming in, but I think I got this.

"So, Philadelphia. Real quick, this is a [...] got a story.

A lot of you, some of you may not know Beta. Beta's my manager for 25 years, helping make this happen. And I told her, I said: "Well, in Philly, you know, they got a bell here. It has a crack in it; maybe you can fix it."

She's like: "What bell? You are an idiot." 

No, no, they had a bell. It's the Liberty bell. "They do have a bell; maybe you can fix it." 

[She] didn't find it amusing. I found that very amusing."

@killuridols Yes that's pretty much it.

Except the first line is

"So, Philadelphia. Real quick, this is a "poor Beta" story.

And the second one is this I think:

A lot of you, some of you may know Beta. Beta's my manager for 25 years, helping make this happen. And I told her, I said: "Well, in Philly, you know, they got a bell here. It has a crack in it; maybe you can fix it."

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4 minutes ago, tiutso said:

Sorry for chiming in, but I think I got this.

"So, Philadelphia. Real quick, this is a [...] got a story.

A lot of you, some of you may not know Beta. Beta's my manager for 25 years, helping make this happen. And I told her, I said: "Well, in Philly, you know, they got a bell here. It has a crack in it; maybe you can fix it."

She's like: "What bell? You are an idiot." 

"No, no, they had a bell. It's the Liberty bell. They do have a bell; maybe you can fix it." 

Didn't find it amusing. I found that very amusing."

 

3 minutes ago, Frey said:

@killuridols Yes that's pretty much it.

Except the first line is

"So, Philadelphia. Real quick, this is a "poor Beta" story.

And the second one is this I think:

A lot of you, some of you may know Beta. Beta's my manager for 25 years, helping make this happen. And I told her, I said: "Well, in Philly, you know, they got a bell here. It has a crack in it; maybe you can fix it."

Thank you both for the transcript!

I don't know what to say. Yes, it's not funny at all. And all the characterization of Beta is like... he makes her look and sound like an asshole. Much more to confirm she's actually an asshole.

What was the purpose of the joke? To say she's the one who fix cracks in broken bands? :blink:

2 minutes ago, Rock Hopper said:

@KillYourIdols yes I am the one who had to google Axl Rose when he got the AC/DC spot.  Its not too difficult to find stuff out if you know how to use google, and have read this thread.  BTW in what way is the information about Erin presented in the wrong way.  Either she was arrested or she wasn't.

Of course it's not. But it requires a lot of time to dig that deep and I think you said you didn't have time.

Erin's children live with her and that's all I'm gonna say about that whole "EE DV" bs.

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4 hours ago, Frey said:

 

Btw. I really like this Heaven's Door, it's like chatty time with Axl. Lot of interesting moments (5:45, 5:55 - Axl talking to security). Maybe next time he can do Q&A :rofl-lol: (Questions from this thread of course :max:)

 

1 hour ago, nonok said:

Damn, seems like it's constantly rainy and cold in the Czech Republic these last few months. Here in Bulgaria it's 35°C in the shade on average. :cry:

Yes, I really dunno what's up with the summer this year. The weather's been kinda meh the last months. One of the hottest days was the ACDC show, they reall brought the hell haha

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@giuls @killuridols He was talking about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Bell

And there's nothing to get, because there's not really anything funny about that so-called "joke"/story. It's not bad or anything, it's just a completely unfunny and pointless story lol.

The one that I thought actually was kind of bad was when Axl said "She beats me all the time, it's an abusive relationship" about Beta. I think during a RIR or something. Considering Axl's history, I thought it was a bit questionable for him to make jokes about abusive relationships.

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45 minutes ago, killuridols said:

i cant handle it! i can't handle it! YOU KNOW I CAN'T HANDLE IT!!!!!!!!! :bitchfight:

why you do this to me? I'm mentally unstable and this does not help me! :bitchfight:

Now I have to do something terrible. I have to graphically show you how I want to eat Axl's huge ass:

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What are you talking about? This is food for your soul! :lol: For all our souls! Axl porn ftw! :headbang:

And you can have the ass, just let me at that jaw and those abs. :drool:

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Hold it right there! Axl has a beatiful ass I won't  allow people to eat it nor I will allow people disrespect it. Axl' ass is to be handled gently. Touch it, squeeze it, bite it all you want but gently

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I'm sure he would very much like it :lol:

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1 minute ago, Andy14 said:

You know I have a rich imagination so I can clearly see Axl, Slash and Duff reading this thread right now :popcorn:. Together!

:rofl-lol::rofl-lol::rofl-lol:

Duff once talked in a video about how he got obsessed with reading what people were posting on the VR forum. He got especially obsessed with the posts of one particular poster, because those comments were always harsh, but spot-on and insightful.

Then, some time later, after a concert in the Netherlands or something, Duff met that poster. It was a 14 year old kid. Duff felt like an idiot and never read the VR forum again :rofl-lol:

So yeah, I could totally see it.

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On 13/07/2016 at 2:20 AM, Frey said:

And then there's Duff. Don't forget Duff. Duff is still having a hard time getting noticed. He is a gentle, silly and delightful man, even when he is drunk, which nowadays seems most of the morning and most of the afternoon and a good part of every evening. Duff is having a hard time with life on the road. He is, frankly, getting sick and tired of fans who come up to him and, rather than fall all over him, ask, "Where's Axl?" Duffs wife, Linda, recently got him a tshirt that reads: 'No, I don't know where Axl is!'

Duff wishes Linda could be with him more often. He is 28 years old, and the fits of loneliness are starting to become fits of terror. "A lot of nights I wake up, and I'm, like, where am I, what city, and you run to the window and look out and try to figure it all out," he says. "You actually forget who you are. It's, like, I am completely blank. I end up a lot of times just sitting on my bed, and I'll find tears start coming out of my eyes and my heart is just aching. It's, like, please let there be another show soon. It's, like, can you get the next shot of insulin."

On 14/07/2016 at 3:48 AM, Lumikki said:

As for the part about Duff, OMG!!! :o I can't deal with the mental image of Duff crying all alone in a dark hotel room at night.

That's just :nervous::scared::cry: to me. It's incredible how miserable most of them seemed while touring, though usually you just hear Axl talking about that.

Yeah, this is so sad  :cry: It's a miracle they survived that tour. They were unhappy and depressed most of the time. And yeah, Axl has often talked about it and said he didn't want to tour, but I think it's distinct in Duff's book, too (not so much in Slash's) that he was miserable. And the frustration Duff felt because the fans didn't care about him :(; it's the bass player's fate to be and outshined and unnoticed. But he found his inner strength and it's so good that now is one of the most respected musicians...

...and the best looking member of the band :)

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(I stole this from the Philadelphia thread) :lol:

On 13/07/2016 at 10:23 PM, Frey said:

I think the video might be a reference to the Axl suddenly freaking out and jumping out of a running car story?

Yeah, seems like it. It may have been something Slash said in that incident that brought up a traumatic memory from Axl's past and stroke him. When I read about it in Slash's book, I imagined it as a scene in a movie :wacko:: Slash starts telling Axl gently to apologize to his grandmother, Axl looks outside, gradually Slash's voice becomes his stepfather's voice saying something like "apologize to your mother", Axl starts rocking back and forth and then jumps out.

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I looked for the interview where Axl said he was called the "Ayatollah" and in his mind it was the beginning of the "Axl-the-dictator" story. I couldn't find it, but I saw that Steven mentions it in his book (which I haven't read yet) and says Axl got "a little pissy" over the "Ayatollah" thing. There are also parts of it in Stephen Davis's book with some slightly ironic comments. It was 1986, just after they were signed. The interview, probably the first they ever did, is like the cartoons, so childish :lol:They were apparently drunk and/or on drugs. Axl was the only one who answered "seriously" to some questions, particularly in the part where he talks about his feelings while singing. Izzy ... he must have been quite a mess the time he was an addict.

Here are the excerpts from Davis's book:

In early April 1986, Music Connection, the L.A. weekly magazine, sent reporter Karen Burch to interview Guns. The band had been promised the cover of the magazine. (...) She found them still living at Vicky’s place, amid wall-to-wall amps, guitars everywhere, brimming ashtrays, garbage. (...)

Izzy would break in with sarcastic asides, cynical jokes, and open hostility. He would deflect her questions with: “Ask another,” “We don’t care about that,” “That’s a stupid question,” “No one gives a fuck about that,” “Next,” “Fuck you and your magazine.” (...)

She started by asking their ages, and it went downhill from there.

AXL: “Sure, we’ll reveal our ages.”

DUFF: “Yeah, we don’t care. I’m nineteen.”

AXL: “I’m twenty-four.”

SLASH: “No, Duff is twenty-two and I’m nineteen.”

IZZY: “This really does not fucking matter.”

SLASH: “Just fucking tell her.”

IZZY: “Axl isn’t really twenty-four. He’s a million years old! He’s seen fucking everything!”

VICKY: “C’mon—go with the real ages here.”

IZZY: “What’s the bullshit with the ages? That shit doesn’t matter to us.”

SLASH: “Izzy is twenty-three and Steve’s twenty-one.”

IZZY: “Just print that for the Rainbow so they’ll let us all in.”

SLASH: “Please—just don’t ask us where we’re from.”

IZZY: “Yeah, fuck that. There’ll be no shit in there about me being from Indiana, which deserves fucking nothing. It was a worthless fucking city. It’s shit.”

SLASH: “Can you print, like, ‘Indiana sucks’?”

IZZY: “The fact that I’m from Indiana has no business being in my career.”

(...)

She asked about songwriting. “We all write,” Axl answered. “I write the majority of the melodies, and we work on everything else.”

Slash said that Axl wrote all the lyrics and they all collaborated on the rest.

Axl continued: “We write in vans on the way to shows. We write songs when we’re hanging out on the corner waiting for someone to buy a bottle. Yeah—waiting for alcohol.”

“If I can speak for everybody,” Slash said, looking around at his already bored bandmates, “the whole point is that we want to reach a lot of people. We want to be a . . . worldwide exhibit! We don’t have to be accepted, we just wanna be a band that’s fucking out there.”

Slash’s inspiration sent Axl into a self-defining soliloquy: “I live for the songs,” Axl said. He paused. His tone changed, darkening. He seemed in a trance. The rest of the band woke up and leaned in to listen. “If I go through a bad time . . . well . . . anything I have to go through is worth it if I can get a song out of it. If I slept in a parking garage, and I hated it, and I wanted to give it all up . . . but I just kept going . . . and I got a song out of it, from the experience . . . then I’m so glad that I had to go through a ton of shit. . . . “When I’m onstage, that’s when I take what I’m worth to the public. I bring out everything I’ve worked on for the past month, show the people my songs, and give that feeling to them. “When I’m singing a line, I’m thinking of the feelings that made me come up with the song in the first place. At the same time, I think about how I feel singing those words now, and how those words are gonna hit the people in the crowd.”

Axl described the toll these feelings took on his body and mind. The band had all noticed how he would tremble after good shows. “I usually have to have someone stand beside me when I come offstage, because I can’t even tie my own shoes. I’ve gone through so many thoughts onstage.” He described looking out at a crowd of 700 and knowing 300 of them. He loved some, hated others, was in debt to this one, had slept with that one—ten times. “You see all this stuff, plus—you’re thinking about the feeling in the music. I put every possible thought I can, into every performance and every line.”

The room was quiet. They were listening carefully. Time stood still. “And that’s why I might be known as . . . histrionic . Because I go all out.”  (...)

Vicky came up with some cash and Steven and Duff left on a Marlboro run. Karen Burch went to the bathroom. While she was out of the room, they recorded some vulgar sexual suggestions on the tape for her to discover later. When she returned, she was shocked to find that Axl had broken her cassette recorder. He explained that he was going to leave a message on the tape, but he pushed the wrong buttons and the thing is fucked. Sorry. Vicky came up with another machine, and the interview continued.

DUFF: “We’re doin’ what we wanna,” glug glug, “and we’re pulling it off.”

IZZY: “We sell out every fuckin’ club in L.A. that we play.”

SLASH: “Listen, I don’t care if you think I’ve got a bad attitude, or if I’m being big-headed about it, but this is the only fuckin’ band that’s come of L.A. that’s real —and the kids know it.” Karen asked how the band got along with each other. Slash said that they didn’t have many friends outside of the band.

AXL: “We’re a family.”

DUFF: “When we go out, there’s nobody else we would have more fun with. If someone’s not there and then they show up, it’s like . . .”

AXL: “Great—you’re here! Let’s go! Rape! Pillage! Destroy!”

IZZY: “That’s our motto.”

Axl said that he thought the band would stay together as long as there was a spark between them.

IZZY: “Till we die, and then some.”

Steven said that even after they died, they would still be together.

SLASH: “Yeah, I mean . . . I loved my dog. . . .”

IZZY: “But then he died, and now you have Steve.”

STEVEN: “Hey—fuck you!”

AXL: “And we don’t share girlfriends.”

This set Slash off. He explained that they had girlfriends, somewhere in the past, but they had gotten rid of them when the band started to happen. “They’re a pain in the ass,” he opined about the girlfriends they’d had. “They take up too much fuckin’ time, and they have their own ideas which they’re constantly throwing in your face.”

Asked if they were as “bad” as people said they were, Slash replied, “We are.”

Duff added, “We have no choice.”

Axl concurred: “Trouble? All the time.”

The reporter gave everyone one wish.

Steven wished for peace of mind. Izzy said he wanted a Maserati. Slash wanted an endless supply of Marlboro cigarettes. Duff just wanted to have the GN’R record out, and to be on the road.

Axl was more prophetic. “I think that . . . I don’t like that question. It’s ridiculous because we are working on getting everything we want. If I had my wishes, I’d want all the money there is. I’d want power and control over everything there is, and third, I’d want all the wishes there are to have.”

Slash summed this up. “Axl is just another version of the Ayatollah.”

The other version of the Ayatollah then tried to spike the interview. He had hated the whole thing. He tried to sabotage the photo session for the promised cover story. He began calling Karen Burch. (...) When the story was published on April 14, 1986, it carried a disclaimer: “This issue’s cover [photo] and cover feature are running against the wishes of Guns N’ Roses, according to W. Axl Rose.”

Then Axl wrote a long, angry letter to the magazine, that was published a few months later.

Steven says that Axl was pissed off with the magazine because they spelled his name "Axel" and that the interviewer ended her article with "Well, fuck you and your band" in response to Izzy's "Fuck you and your magazine" :lol:

Axl said in the 2011 Eddie Trunk interview and in China Exchange that it was Izzy who called him "Ayatollah", but it was Slash. Maybe he confused it with the first Rolling Stone extended article in 1988:

 Even the other band members describe Axl in terms of a Jekyll-and Hyde dichotomy.

"He does a lot of weird shit no one understands," says Slash, "but I love the guy. I mean he's a real sweetheart." :heart:It's funny that Slash used this word
 "He can still be a tyrant," says Izzy, "but then he can turn around and be the nicest guy in the world."

http://www.slashparadise.com/media/interviews-slash/the-hard-truth-about-gnr-rolling-stone-november-1988.pdf

http://www.oocities.org/rattlesnake_suitcase/rollstone88.htm

I reread that Rolling Stone article. There is a lot of interesting stuff in it, and I think it was the first time the bipolar issue was brought up.

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@Andy14, I hope they don't :nervous::D

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And Axl's joke last night ... :shrugs::wacko:

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27 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

Btw. I really like this Heaven's Door, it's like chatty time with Axl. Lot of interesting moments (5:45, 5:55 - Axl talking to security). Maybe next time he can do Q&A :rofl-lol: (Questions from this thread of course :max:)

 

Yes, I really dunno what's up with the summer this year. The weather's been kinda meh the last months. One of the hottest days was the ACDC show, they reall brought the hell haha

Loved it too....when else do you get a chatty, head bopping w/Duff, then onto a tickle Slash moment?!!!!! :lol:

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33 minutes ago, killuridols said:

 

Thank you both for the transcript!

I don't know what to say. Yes, it's not funny at all. And all the characterization of Beta is like... he makes her look and sound like an asshole. Much more to confirm she's actually an asshole.

What was the purpose of the joke? To say she's the one who fix cracks in broken bands? :blink:

Of course it's not. But it requires a lot of time to dig that deep and I think you said you didn't have time.

Erin's children live with her and that's all I'm gonna say about that whole "EE DV" bs.

It doesn't take much time, I had never heard of Todd Crew before.  I just googled his name and found out that he died in August 1987 due to a drug over dose in Slash's hotel room, took about 5 mins

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1 minute ago, Frey said:

Duff once talked in a video about how he got obsessed with reading what people were posting on the VR forum. He got especially obsessed with the posts of one particular poster, because those comments were always harsh, but spot-on and insightful.

Then, some time later, after a concert in the Netherlands or something, Duff met that poster. It was a 14 year old kid. Duff felt like an idiot and never read the VR forum again :rofl-lol:

So yeah, I could totally see it.

bwhahaha yes! He vowed never to read forums again after that. He said during a Jay Mohr podcast that he'd get on after concerts and be like "YES" or "oh no, we sucked" depending on what that poster commented lmao. That 14yr old kid is STILL ruining it for me because Duff says after he posts things on twitter/IG/Facebook he never reads the comments. And if he doesn't read the comments, how is HE SUPPOSED TO NOTICE ME ;):smiley-confused2:

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45 minutes ago, giuls said:

...I don't get Axl's joke :shrugs: help

@killuridols you killed me with that picture :rofl-lol:

It is my mission to kill people here :P

43 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

i don't understand what is so bad about the Beta/Liberty Bell thing, I'm kinda like so what :shrugs:

I think I got it. But it's not funny.

33 minutes ago, Frey said:

@giuls @killuridols He was talking about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Bell

And there's nothing to get, because there's not really anything funny about that so-called "joke"/story. It's not bad or anything, it's just a completely unfunny and pointless story lol.

The one that I thought actually was kind of bad was when Axl said "She beats me all the time, it's an abusive relationship" about Beta. I think during a RIR or something. Considering Axl's history, I thought it was a bit questionable for him to make jokes about abusive relationships.

Well, if you go reading deep into it he does say something interesting. He asks Beta to fix a crack on the bell, like she's a fixer of cracks, you know? Something like she fixed him or fixed the band, I dont know.  :shrugs:

About that RIR thing I didn't like how Beta "hit" him :rolleyes: and in the transcript @tiutso posted, he says she said "What bell, you're an idiot!".... So he's called idiot and gets beaten by his mom. So cool. :rolleyes:

31 minutes ago, nonok said:

What are you talking about? This is food for your soul! :lol: For all our souls! Axl porn ftw! :headbang:

And you can have the ass, just let me at that jaw and those abs. :drool:

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No, not food for my soul. It is food for my mental disea...OMG THAT ASS! :wow:

:drool: you guys want me to collapse before weekend begins!

30 minutes ago, Padme said:

Hold it right there! Axl has a beatiful ass I won't  allow people to eat it nor I will allow people disrespect it. Axl' ass is to be handled gently. Touch it, squeeze it, bite it all you want but gently

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I'm sure he would very much like it :lol:

No way. This is how is going to be. No more discussions!

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18 minutes ago, Frey said:

Duff once talked in a video about how he got obsessed with reading what people were posting on the VR forum. He got especially obsessed with the posts of one particular poster, because those comments were always harsh, but spot-on and insightful.

Then, some time later, after a concert in the Netherlands or something, Duff met that poster. It was a 14 year old kid. Duff felt like an idiot and never read the VR forum again :rofl-lol:

So yeah, I could totally see it.

Yeah, I've heard that.

So get ready for when Axl mentions my name and tells me to go fuck myself or something.

I'm sure he loves to hate me! :heart:

 

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Thank you for explaining @Frey and thanks to @nonok fot the juicy gifs

18 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

 

 

I looked for the interview where Axl said he was called the "Ayatollah" and in his mind it was the beginning of the "Axl-the-dictator" story. I couldn't find it, but I saw that Steven mentions it in his book (which I haven't read yet) and says Axl got "a little pissy" over the "Ayatollah" thing. There are also parts of it in Stephen Davis's book with some slightly ironic comments. It was 1986, just after they were signed. The interview, probably the first they ever did, is like the cartoons, so childish :lol:They were apparently drunk and/or on drugs. Axl was the only one who answered "seriously" to some questions, particularly in the part where he talks about his feelings while singing. Izzy ... he must have been quite a mess the time he was an addict.

Here are the excerpts from Davis's book:

In early April 1986, Music Connection, the L.A. weekly magazine, sent reporter Karen Burch to interview Guns. The band had been promised the cover of the magazine. (...) She found them still living at Vicky’s place, amid wall-to-wall amps, guitars everywhere, brimming ashtrays, garbage. (...)

Izzy would break in with sarcastic asides, cynical jokes, and open hostility. He would deflect her questions with: “Ask another,” “We don’t care about that,” “That’s a stupid question,” “No one gives a fuck about that,” “Next,” “Fuck you and your magazine.” (...)

She started by asking their ages, and it went downhill from there.

AXL: “Sure, we’ll reveal our ages.”

DUFF: “Yeah, we don’t care. I’m nineteen.”

AXL: “I’m twenty-four.”

SLASH: “No, Duff is twenty-two and I’m nineteen.”

IZZY: “This really does not fucking matter.”

SLASH: “Just fucking tell her.”

IZZY: “Axl isn’t really twenty-four. He’s a million years old! He’s seen fucking everything!”

VICKY: “C’mon—go with the real ages here.”

IZZY: “What’s the bullshit with the ages? That shit doesn’t matter to us.”

SLASH: “Izzy is twenty-three and Steve’s twenty-one.”

IZZY: “Just print that for the Rainbow so they’ll let us all in.”

SLASH: “Please—just don’t ask us where we’re from.”

IZZY: “Yeah, fuck that. There’ll be no shit in there about me being from Indiana, which deserves fucking nothing. It was a worthless fucking city. It’s shit.”

SLASH: “Can you print, like, ‘Indiana sucks’?”

IZZY: “The fact that I’m from Indiana has no business being in my career.”

(...)

She asked about songwriting. “We all write,” Axl answered. “I write the majority of the melodies, and we work on everything else.”

Slash said that Axl wrote all the lyrics and they all collaborated on the rest.

Axl continued: “We write in vans on the way to shows. We write songs when we’re hanging out on the corner waiting for someone to buy a bottle. Yeah—waiting for alcohol.”

“If I can speak for everybody,” Slash said, looking around at his already bored bandmates, “the whole point is that we want to reach a lot of people. We want to be a . . . worldwide exhibit! We don’t have to be accepted, we just wanna be a band that’s fucking out there.”

Slash’s inspiration sent Axl into a self-defining soliloquy: “I live for the songs,” Axl said. He paused. His tone changed, darkening. He seemed in a trance. The rest of the band woke up and leaned in to listen. “If I go through a bad time . . . well . . . anything I have to go through is worth it if I can get a song out of it. If I slept in a parking garage, and I hated it, and I wanted to give it all up . . . but I just kept going . . . and I got a song out of it, from the experience . . . then I’m so glad that I had to go through a ton of shit. . . . “When I’m onstage, that’s when I take what I’m worth to the public. I bring out everything I’ve worked on for the past month, show the people my songs, and give that feeling to them. “When I’m singing a line, I’m thinking of the feelings that made me come up with the song in the first place. At the same time, I think about how I feel singing those words now, and how those words are gonna hit the people in the crowd.”

Axl described the toll these feelings took on his body and mind. The band had all noticed how he would tremble after good shows. “I usually have to have someone stand beside me when I come offstage, because I can’t even tie my own shoes. I’ve gone through so many thoughts onstage.” He described looking out at a crowd of 700 and knowing 300 of them. He loved some, hated others, was in debt to this one, had slept with that one—ten times. “You see all this stuff, plus—you’re thinking about the feeling in the music. I put every possible thought I can, into every performance and every line.”

The room was quiet. They were listening carefully. Time stood still. “And that’s why I might be known as . . . histrionic . Because I go all out.”  (...)

Vicky came up with some cash and Steven and Duff left on a Marlboro run. Karen Burch went to the bathroom. While she was out of the room, they recorded some vulgar sexual suggestions on the tape for her to discover later. When she returned, she was shocked to find that Axl had broken her cassette recorder. He explained that he was going to leave a message on the tape, but he pushed the wrong buttons and the thing is fucked. Sorry. Vicky came up with another machine, and the interview continued.

DUFF: “We’re doin’ what we wanna,” glug glug, “and we’re pulling it off.”

IZZY: “We sell out every fuckin’ club in L.A. that we play.”

SLASH: “Listen, I don’t care if you think I’ve got a bad attitude, or if I’m being big-headed about it, but this is the only fuckin’ band that’s come of L.A. that’s real —and the kids know it.” Karen asked how the band got along with each other. Slash said that they didn’t have many friends outside of the band.

AXL: “We’re a family.”

DUFF: “When we go out, there’s nobody else we would have more fun with. If someone’s not there and then they show up, it’s like . . .”

AXL: “Great—you’re here! Let’s go! Rape! Pillage! Destroy!”

IZZY: “That’s our motto.”

Axl said that he thought the band would stay together as long as there was a spark between them.

IZZY: “Till we die, and then some.”

Steven said that even after they died, they would still be together.

SLASH: “Yeah, I mean . . . I loved my dog. . . .”

IZZY: “But then he died, and now you have Steve.”

STEVEN: “Hey—fuck you!”

AXL: “And we don’t share girlfriends.”

This set Slash off. He explained that they had girlfriends, somewhere in the past, but they had gotten rid of them when the band started to happen. “They’re a pain in the ass,” he opined about the girlfriends they’d had. “They take up too much fuckin’ time, and they have their own ideas which they’re constantly throwing in your face.”

Asked if they were as “bad” as people said they were, Slash replied, “We are.”

Duff added, “We have no choice.”

Axl concurred: “Trouble? All the time.”

The reporter gave everyone one wish.

Steven wished for peace of mind. Izzy said he wanted a Maserati. Slash wanted an endless supply of Marlboro cigarettes. Duff just wanted to have the GN’R record out, and to be on the road.

Axl was more prophetic. “I think that . . . I don’t like that question. It’s ridiculous because we are working on getting everything we want. If I had my wishes, I’d want all the money there is. I’d want power and control over everything there is, and third, I’d want all the wishes there are to have.”

Slash summed this up. “Axl is just another version of the Ayatollah.”

The other version of the Ayatollah then tried to spike the interview. He had hated the whole thing. He tried to sabotage the photo session for the promised cover story. He began calling Karen Burch. (...) When the story was published on April 14, 1986, it carried a disclaimer: “This issue’s cover [photo] and cover feature are running against the wishes of Guns N’ Roses, according to W. Axl Rose.”

Then Axl wrote a long, angry letter to the magazine, that was published a few months later.

Steven says that Axl was pissed off with the magazine because they spelled his name "Axel" and that the interviewer ended her article with "Well, fuck you and your band" in response to Izzy's "Fuck you and your magazine" :lol:

Axl said in the 2011 Eddie Trunk interview and in China Exchange that it was Izzy who called him "Ayatollah", but it was Slash. Maybe he confused it with the first Rolling Stone extended article in 1988:

 Even the other band members describe Axl in terms of a Jekyll-and Hyde dichotomy.

"He does a lot of weird shit no one understands," says Slash, "but I love the guy. I mean he's a real sweetheart." :heart:It's funny that Slash used this word
 "He can still be a tyrant," says Izzy, "but then he can turn around and be the nicest guy in the world."

http://www.slashparadise.com/media/interviews-slash/the-hard-truth-about-gnr-rolling-stone-november-1988.pdf

I reread that Rolling Stone article. There is a lot of interesting stuff in it, and I think it was the first time the bipolar thing was brought up.

 

This excerpts are actually pretty sweet when they're not being idiots, all the talk about being family and the others all listening carefully to Axl :wub: and i'm not surprised about Axl's wishes, he was hungry a lot when he was young so he would want money and after his childhood, it's normal he would want power and control so no-one could ever hurt him again.

 

I hope they're reading here, they would be traumatised :rofl-lol: (love you, guys, if you're reading! :lol:)

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26 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

...and the best looking member of the band :)

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(I stole this from the Philadelphia thread) :lol:

Yeah, seems like it. It may have been something Slash said in that incident that brought up a traumatic memory from Axl's past and stroke him. When I read about it in Slash's book, I imagined it as a scene in a movie :wacko:: Slash starts telling Axl gently to apologize to his grandmother, Axl looks outside, gradually Slash's voice becomes his stepfather's voice saying something like "apologize to your mother", Axl starts rocking back and forth and then jumps out.

In early April 1986, Music Connection, the L.A. weekly magazine, sent reporter Karen Burch to interview Guns. The band had been promised the cover of the magazine. (...) She found them still living at Vicky’s place, amid wall-to-wall amps, guitars everywhere, brimming ashtrays, garbage. (...)

Izzy would break in with sarcastic asides, cynical jokes, and open hostility. He would deflect her questions with: “Ask another,” “We don’t care about that,” “That’s a stupid question,” “No one gives a fuck about that,” “Next,” “Fuck you and your magazine.” (...)

She started by asking their ages, and it went downhill from there.

AXL: “Sure, we’ll reveal our ages.”

DUFF: “Yeah, we don’t care. I’m nineteen.”

AXL: “I’m twenty-four.”

SLASH: “No, Duff is twenty-two and I’m nineteen.”

IZZY: “This really does not fucking matter.”

SLASH: “Just fucking tell her.”

IZZY: “Axl isn’t really twenty-four. He’s a million years old! He’s seen fucking everything!”

VICKY: “C’mon—go with the real ages here.”

IZZY: “What’s the bullshit with the ages? That shit doesn’t matter to us.”

SLASH: “Izzy is twenty-three and Steve’s twenty-one.”

IZZY: “Just print that for the Rainbow so they’ll let us all in.”

SLASH: “Please—just don’t ask us where we’re from.”

IZZY: “Yeah, fuck that. There’ll be no shit in there about me being from Indiana, which deserves fucking nothing. It was a worthless fucking city. It’s shit.”

SLASH: “Can you print, like, ‘Indiana sucks’?”

IZZY: “The fact that I’m from Indiana has no business being in my career.”

(...)

She asked about songwriting. “We all write,” Axl answered. “I write the majority of the melodies, and we work on everything else.”

Slash said that Axl wrote all the lyrics and they all collaborated on the rest.

Axl continued: “We write in vans on the way to shows. We write songs when we’re hanging out on the corner waiting for someone to buy a bottle. Yeah—waiting for alcohol.”

“If I can speak for everybody,” Slash said, looking around at his already bored bandmates, “the whole point is that we want to reach a lot of people. We want to be a . . . worldwide exhibit! We don’t have to be accepted, we just wanna be a band that’s fucking out there.”

Slash’s inspiration sent Axl into a self-defining soliloquy: “I live for the songs,” Axl said. He paused. His tone changed, darkening. He seemed in a trance. The rest of the band woke up and leaned in to listen. “If I go through a bad time . . . well . . . anything I have to go through is worth it if I can get a song out of it. If I slept in a parking garage, and I hated it, and I wanted to give it all up . . . but I just kept going . . . and I got a song out of it, from the experience . . . then I’m so glad that I had to go through a ton of shit. . . . “When I’m onstage, that’s when I take what I’m worth to the public. I bring out everything I’ve worked on for the past month, show the people my songs, and give that feeling to them. “When I’m singing a line, I’m thinking of the feelings that made me come up with the song in the first place. At the same time, I think about how I feel singing those words now, and how those words are gonna hit the people in the crowd.”

Axl described the toll these feelings took on his body and mind. The band had all noticed how he would tremble after good shows. “I usually have to have someone stand beside me when I come offstage, because I can’t even tie my own shoes. I’ve gone through so many thoughts onstage.” He described looking out at a crowd of 700 and knowing 300 of them. He loved some, hated others, was in debt to this one, had slept with that one—ten times. “You see all this stuff, plus—you’re thinking about the feeling in the music. I put every possible thought I can, into every performance and every line.”

The room was quiet. They were listening carefully. Time stood still. “And that’s why I might be known as . . . histrionic . Because I go all out.”  (...)

Vicky came up with some cash and Steven and Duff left on a Marlboro run. Karen Burch went to the bathroom. While she was out of the room, they recorded some vulgar sexual suggestions on the tape for her to discover later. When she returned, she was shocked to find that Axl had broken her cassette recorder. He explained that he was going to leave a message on the tape, but he pushed the wrong buttons and the thing is fucked. Sorry. Vicky came up with another machine, and the interview continued.

DUFF: “We’re doin’ what we wanna,” glug glug, “and we’re pulling it off.”

IZZY: “We sell out every fuckin’ club in L.A. that we play.”

SLASH: “Listen, I don’t care if you think I’ve got a bad attitude, or if I’m being big-headed about it, but this is the only fuckin’ band that’s come of L.A. that’s real —and the kids know it.” Karen asked how the band got along with each other. Slash said that they didn’t have many friends outside of the band.

AXL: “We’re a family.”

DUFF: “When we go out, there’s nobody else we would have more fun with. If someone’s not there and then they show up, it’s like . . .”

AXL: “Great—you’re here! Let’s go! Rape! Pillage! Destroy!”

IZZY: “That’s our motto.”

Axl said that he thought the band would stay together as long as there was a spark between them.

IZZY: “Till we die, and then some.”

Steven said that even after they died, they would still be together.

SLASH: “Yeah, I mean . . . I loved my dog. . . .”

IZZY: “But then he died, and now you have Steve.”

STEVEN: “Hey—fuck you!”

AXL: “And we don’t share girlfriends.”

This set Slash off. He explained that they had girlfriends, somewhere in the past, but they had gotten rid of them when the band started to happen. “They’re a pain in the ass,” he opined about the girlfriends they’d had. “They take up too much fuckin’ time, and they have their own ideas which they’re constantly throwing in your face.”

Asked if they were as “bad” as people said they were, Slash replied, “We are.”

Duff added, “We have no choice.”

Axl concurred: “Trouble? All the time.”

The reporter gave everyone one wish.

Steven wished for peace of mind. Izzy said he wanted a Maserati. Slash wanted an endless supply of Marlboro cigarettes. Duff just wanted to have the GN’R record out, and to be on the road.

Axl was more prophetic. “I think that . . . I don’t like that question. It’s ridiculous because we are working on getting everything we want. If I had my wishes, I’d want all the money there is. I’d want power and control over everything there is, and third, I’d want all the wishes there are to have.”

Slash summed this up. “Axl is just another version of the Ayatollah.”

The other version of the Ayatollah then tried to spike the interview. He had hated the whole thing. He tried to sabotage the photo session for the promised cover story. He began calling Karen Burch. (...) When the story was published on April 14, 1986, it carried a disclaimer: “This issue’s cover [photo] and cover feature are running against the wishes of Guns N’ Roses, according to W. Axl Rose.”

Work it Duff! :wub:

Everything is so boring these days, we need another interview like that, ASAP.

Axl: "We're a family". LMAO

A very dysfunctional one that is. The way they talk shit, insult and sue one another, fight, don't talk for decades then make up and then everything goes to shit all over again....very love/hate relationship. Crazy mofos.

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37 minutes ago, Frey said:

Duff once talked in a video about how he got obsessed with reading what people were posting on the VR forum. He got especially obsessed with the posts of one particular poster, because those comments were always harsh, but spot-on and insightful.

Then, some time later, after a concert in the Netherlands or something, Duff met that poster. It was a 14 year old kid. Duff felt like an idiot and never read the VR forum again :rofl-lol:

So yeah, I could totally see it.

Oh no! :rofl-lol: Poor Duff :rofl-lol:. But he can meet me, I'm not 14 :max:

3 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said:

I cant see the gif

How come? :shock: Can anyone else see it?

 

C'mon Axl, dedicate a song to us. Preferably This I Love. Or Coma :smiley-confused2:

Btw. I think he lies, this is not his Netflix and chill position, but GNR Women's thread and chill position :popcorn: 

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Just now, Andy14 said:

Oh no! :rofl-lol: Poor Duff :rofl-lol:. But he can meet me, I'm not 14 :max:

How come? :shock: Can anyone else see it?

 

C'mon Axl, dedicate a song to us. Preferably This I Love. Or Coma :smiley-confused2:

Btw. I think he lies, this is not his Netflix and chill position, but GNR Women's thread and chill position :popcorn: 

Axldc12.jpg

Maybe You can post the link?

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10 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

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Can you see it now? I made it in a different app.

Yup I can see it now:D I love this :wub:

If theres some People in this forum tht said They should change KOHD, Please no, Cause KOHD = Axl's joke time :rofl-lol:

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