GNR Women's discussion

[SerenityScorp]

2 hours ago, Andy14 said:

LAAO (laughing Axl's ass of) 

 

Now I really hope he doesn't read this thread 

 

@MillionsOfSpiders great t-shirt. I also didn't know it was acdc. That makes it even better 

Maybe He does, Maybe He lurks this forum without using His old account 

[Angeles_]

http://imgur.com/aH0Wl5l

 

 

 

[nonok]

32 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

C'mon Axl, dedicate a song to us. Preferably This I Love. Or Coma 

Wait, why would we want him to dedicate the trainwreck of a song that is TIL or the suicidal trip that is Coma? I mean, if he's going to dedicate something, wouldn't we want it to be something like SCOM or Rocket Queen? Though if he does read the thread the best thing we're gonna get is Back Off Bitch.

[Andy14]

14 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said:

How many minutes?

20-25, it's nothing but it was fun reading the comments in the Philly thread when they were late

 

9 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said:

Maybe He does, Maybe He lurks this forum without using His old account 

Maybe he's one of us . Any tips?

 

6 minutes ago, nonok said:

Wait, why would we want him to dedicate the trainwreck of a song that is TIL or the suicidal trip that is Coma? I mean, if he's going to dedicate something, wouldn't we want it to be something like SCOM or Rocket Queen? Though if he does read the thread the best thing we're gonna get is Back Off Bitch.

It's just because of the name. "The Women's thread? Hmm, This I Love" Or that all the gifs and pics put him into a Coma 

 

12 minutes ago, Angeles_ said:

http://imgur.com/aH0Wl5l

 

 

 

What does he do with the left hand?  

 

and here's something @killuridols can add to her collection

[SerenityScorp]

What about this 

[Frey]

@Andy14 I can see all your gifs just fine

@Blackstar That early interview is hilarious. They are like caricatures of themselves

57 minutes ago, giuls said:

Thank you for explaining @Frey and thanks to @nonok fot the juicy gifs

This excerpts are actually pretty sweet when they're not being idiots, all the talk about being family and the others all listening carefully to Axl  and i'm not surprised about Axl's wishes, he was hungry a lot when he was young so he would want money and after his childhood, it's normal he would want power and control so no-one could ever hurt him again.

I hope they're reading here, they would be traumatised  (love you, guys, if you're reading! )

Axl was hungry a lot when he was young? Where did that come from? Everyone here knows his childhood was fucked up beyond belief, but I've never heard he was starving? Where did you hear that?

And Izzy actually said something exactly like this. He said that Axl had no control at all in his childhood, what with his step dad smacking him around and everything, and now he was trying to have all the control he could get as an adult. That's Izzy's theory at least

[SerenityScorp]

1 hour ago, Blackstar said:

Yeah, this is so sad  It's a miracle they survived that tour. They were unhappy and depressed most of the time. And yeah, Axl has often talked about it and said he didn't want to tour, but I think it's distinct in Duff's book, too (not so much in Slash's) that he was miserable. And the frustration Duff felt because the fans didn't care about him ; it's the bass player's fate to be and outshined and unnoticed. But he found his inner strength and it's so good that now is one of the most respected musicians...

...and the best looking member of the band

(I stole this from the Philadelphia thread)

Yeah, seems like it. It may have been something Slash said in that incident that brought up a traumatic memory from Axl's past and stroke him. When I read about it in Slash's book, I imagined it as a scene in a movie : Slash starts telling Axl gently to apologize to his grandmother, Axl looks outside, gradually Slash's voice becomes his stepfather's voice saying something like "apologize to your mother", Axl starts rocking back and forth and then jumps out.

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I looked for the interview where Axl said he was called the "Ayatollah" and in his mind it was the beginning of the "Axl-the-dictator" story. I couldn't find it, but I saw that Steven mentions it in his book (which I haven't read yet) and says Axl got "a little pissy" over the "Ayatollah" thing. There are also parts of it in Stephen Davis's book with some slightly ironic comments. It was 1986, just after they were signed. The interview, probably the first they ever did, is like the cartoons, so childish They were apparently drunk and/or on drugs. Axl was the only one who answered "seriously" to some questions, particularly in the part where he talks about his feelings while singing. Izzy ... he must have been quite a mess the time he was an addict.

Here are the excerpts from Davis's book:

In early April 1986, Music Connection, the L.A. weekly magazine, sent reporter Karen Burch to interview Guns. The band had been promised the cover of the magazine. (...) She found them still living at Vicky’s place, amid wall-to-wall amps, guitars everywhere, brimming ashtrays, garbage. (...)

Izzy would break in with sarcastic asides, cynical jokes, and open hostility. He would deflect her questions with: “Ask another,” “We don’t care about that,” “That’s a stupid question,” “No one gives a fuck about that,” “Next,” “Fuck you and your magazine.” (...)

She started by asking their ages, and it went downhill from there.

AXL: “Sure, we’ll reveal our ages.”

DUFF: “Yeah, we don’t care. I’m nineteen.”

AXL: “I’m twenty-four.”

SLASH: “No, Duff is twenty-two and I’m nineteen.”

IZZY: “This really does not fucking matter.”

SLASH: “Just fucking tell her.”

IZZY: “Axl isn’t really twenty-four. He’s a million years old! He’s seen fucking everything!”

VICKY: “C’mon—go with the real ages here.”

IZZY: “What’s the bullshit with the ages? That shit doesn’t matter to us.”

SLASH: “Izzy is twenty-three and Steve’s twenty-one.”

IZZY: “Just print that for the Rainbow so they’ll let us all in.”

SLASH: “Please—just don’t ask us where we’re from.”

IZZY: “Yeah, fuck that. There’ll be no shit in there about me being from Indiana, which deserves fucking nothing. It was a worthless fucking city. It’s shit.”

SLASH: “Can you print, like, ‘Indiana sucks’?”

IZZY: “The fact that I’m from Indiana has no business being in my career.”

(...)

She asked about songwriting. “We all write,” Axl answered. “I write the majority of the melodies, and we work on everything else.”

Slash said that Axl wrote all the lyrics and they all collaborated on the rest.

Axl continued: “We write in vans on the way to shows. We write songs when we’re hanging out on the corner waiting for someone to buy a bottle. Yeah—waiting for alcohol.”

“If I can speak for everybody,” Slash said, looking around at his already bored bandmates, “the whole point is that we want to reach a lot of people. We want to be a . . . worldwide exhibit! We don’t have to be accepted, we just wanna be a band that’s fucking out there.”

Slash’s inspiration sent Axl into a self-defining soliloquy: “I live for the songs,” Axl said. He paused. His tone changed, darkening. He seemed in a trance. The rest of the band woke up and leaned in to listen. “If I go through a bad time . . . well . . . anything I have to go through is worth it if I can get a song out of it. If I slept in a parking garage, and I hated it, and I wanted to give it all up . . . but I just kept going . . . and I got a song out of it, from the experience . . . then I’m so glad that I had to go through a ton of shit. . . . “When I’m onstage, that’s when I take what I’m worth to the public. I bring out everything I’ve worked on for the past month, show the people my songs, and give that feeling to them. “When I’m singing a line, I’m thinking of the feelings that made me come up with the song in the first place. At the same time, I think about how I feel singing those words now, and how those words are gonna hit the people in the crowd.”

Axl described the toll these feelings took on his body and mind. The band had all noticed how he would tremble after good shows. “I usually have to have someone stand beside me when I come offstage, because I can’t even tie my own shoes. I’ve gone through so many thoughts onstage.” He described looking out at a crowd of 700 and knowing 300 of them. He loved some, hated others, was in debt to this one, had slept with that one—ten times. “You see all this stuff, plus—you’re thinking about the feeling in the music. I put every possible thought I can, into every performance and every line.”

The room was quiet. They were listening carefully. Time stood still. “And that’s why I might be known as . . . histrionic . Because I go all out.”  (...)

Vicky came up with some cash and Steven and Duff left on a Marlboro run. Karen Burch went to the bathroom. While she was out of the room, they recorded some vulgar sexual suggestions on the tape for her to discover later. When she returned, she was shocked to find that Axl had broken her cassette recorder. He explained that he was going to leave a message on the tape, but he pushed the wrong buttons and the thing is fucked. Sorry. Vicky came up with another machine, and the interview continued.

DUFF: “We’re doin’ what we wanna,” glug glug, “and we’re pulling it off.”

IZZY: “We sell out every fuckin’ club in L.A. that we play.”

SLASH: “Listen, I don’t care if you think I’ve got a bad attitude, or if I’m being big-headed about it, but this is the only fuckin’ band that’s come of L.A. that’s real —and the kids know it.” Karen asked how the band got along with each other. Slash said that they didn’t have many friends outside of the band.

AXL: “We’re a family.”

DUFF: “When we go out, there’s nobody else we would have more fun with. If someone’s not there and then they show up, it’s like . . .”

AXL: “Great—you’re here! Let’s go! Rape! Pillage! Destroy!”

IZZY: “That’s our motto.”

Axl said that he thought the band would stay together as long as there was a spark between them.

IZZY: “Till we die, and then some.”

Steven said that even after they died, they would still be together.

SLASH: “Yeah, I mean . . . I loved my dog. . . .”

IZZY: “But then he died, and now you have Steve.”

STEVEN: “Hey—fuck you!”

AXL: “And we don’t share girlfriends.”

This set Slash off. He explained that they had girlfriends, somewhere in the past, but they had gotten rid of them when the band started to happen. “They’re a pain in the ass,” he opined about the girlfriends they’d had. “They take up too much fuckin’ time, and they have their own ideas which they’re constantly throwing in your face.”

Asked if they were as “bad” as people said they were, Slash replied, “We are.”

Duff added, “We have no choice.”

Axl concurred: “Trouble? All the time.”

The reporter gave everyone one wish.

Steven wished for peace of mind. Izzy said he wanted a Maserati. Slash wanted an endless supply of Marlboro cigarettes. Duff just wanted to have the GN’R record out, and to be on the road.

Axl was more prophetic. “I think that . . . I don’t like that question. It’s ridiculous because we are working on getting everything we want. If I had my wishes, I’d want all the money there is. I’d want power and control over everything there is, and third, I’d want all the wishes there are to have.”

Slash summed this up. “Axl is just another version of the Ayatollah.”

The other version of the Ayatollah then tried to spike the interview. He had hated the whole thing. He tried to sabotage the photo session for the promised cover story. He began calling Karen Burch. (...) When the story was published on April 14, 1986, it carried a disclaimer: “This issue’s cover [photo] and cover feature are running against the wishes of Guns N’ Roses, according to W. Axl Rose.”

Then Axl wrote a long, angry letter to the magazine, that was published a few months later.

Steven says that Axl was pissed off with the magazine because they spelled his name "Axel" and that the interviewer ended her article with "Well, fuck you and your band" in response to Izzy's "Fuck you and your magazine"

Axl said in the 2011 Eddie Trunk interview and in China Exchange that it was Izzy who called him "Ayatollah", but it was Slash. Maybe he confused it with the first Rolling Stone extended article in 1988:

 Even the other band members describe Axl in terms of a Jekyll-and Hyde dichotomy.

"He does a lot of weird shit no one understands," says Slash, "but I love the guy. I mean he's a real sweetheart." It's funny that Slash used this word
 "He can still be a tyrant," says Izzy, "but then he can turn around and be the nicest guy in the world."

http://www.slashparadise.com/media/interviews-slash/the-hard-truth-about-gnr-rolling-stone-november-1988.pdf

I reread that Rolling Stone article. There is a lot of interesting stuff in it, and I think it was the first time the bipolar thing was brought up.

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@Andy14, I hope too they don't

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And yeah, Axl's joke last night ...

Where I could read stephens book, is it great book?

[giuls]

17 minutes ago, Frey said:

Axl was hungry a lot when he was young? Where did that come from? Everyone here knows his childhood was fucked up beyond belief, but I've never heard he was starving? Where did you hear that?

And Izzy actually said something exactly like this. He said that Axl had no control at all in his childhood, what with his step dad smacking him around and everything, and now he was trying to have all the control he could get as an adult. That's Izzy's theory at least

In this thread at page 84 in @Lumikki post, there's a story about Axl, Izzy and one of their friend that said they had rice with some kind of sauce, together it was a disgusting dish but they eat it anyway because they were very hungry and that's all they had to eat, plus,  in the early GNR days they weren't exactly drowning in money.

Izzy and i have the same theory, then, cool 

Edited July 15, 2016 by giuls

[Frey]

1 minute ago, giuls said:

In this thread at page 84 in @Lumikki post, there's a story about Axl, Izzy and one of their friend that said they had rice with some kind of sauce, together it was a disgusting dish but they eat it anyway because they were very hungry and that's all they had to eat, plus,  in the early GNR days they weren't exactly drowning in money.

Oh yeah, I remember that. I just read what you wrote too quickly and it sounded to me like you were saying he was going hungry as a child back in Indiana. I should read more carefully, sorry for misunderstanding. 

[giuls]

19 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said:

Where I could read stephens book, is it great book?

I didn't like it much, if i had to recommend a book written by gnr member i would advise to read Duff's book.

[Blackstar]

@SerenityScorp, you can read the first pages here:

https://books.google.gr/books?id=1Jh4dkcw0nsC&printsec=frontcover&hl=el#v=onepage&q&f=false

You have to pay to read all of it. I haven't read it. Davis has written good books about other bands, but from what I know the GnR book is based only on material already published (interviews etc), he never met the members of the band or anyone near them except for Vicky Hamilton.

Edited July 15, 2016 by Blackstar

[SerenityScorp]

Duff N' Axl knew about the forum N' seems They dont wanna back anymore

So I guess the only one tht never know about forum is Slash, Izzy N' Adler

Edited July 15, 2016 by SerenityScorp

[killuridols]

2 hours ago, nonok said:

Wait, why would we want him to dedicate the trainwreck of a song that is TIL or the suicidal trip that is Coma? I mean, if he's going to dedicate something, wouldn't we want it to be something like SCOM or Rocket Queen? Though if he does read the thread the best thing we're gonna get is Back Off Bitch.

or Get In The Ring....

BUT

I'm sure SORRY was for us!

1 hour ago, Andy14 said:

and here's something @killuridols can add to her collection

Can you please STOP?

I'm dead serious now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mandy123]

@Andy14 awesome gifs! When/if you make Duff ones, hit me up haha! My creeper Duff folder on my computer always needs new things. 

[Andy14]

30 minutes ago, killuridols said:

I'm sure SORRY was for us!

Or about us 

"...You like to have me...."

 

"...You know that I
Got under your skin
You sold your soul
But I won't let you win..."

 

@Mandy123 Did I hear "Duff"? 

[Jane M.]

I need a gif of Axl giving the mic stand a hand job. He did it again last night during Mr. Brownstone, iirc or one of the first songs. 

Please?

[Axl_Fetish]

15 hours ago, cheesecake said:

Glad to know somebody here in the same predicament (I mean, not glad that you are suffering from it, but glad that someone understands). 

 

I love bread, with a good cultured butter spread on it. I've tried baking GF ones but they just don't cut it. There is one recipe that I tried that produced *close* to the real deal (you know, not the typical dense GF bread) but it's a hassle not to be able to just buy bread off the shelf. 

 

As a native San Franciscan, I take my sour dough bread very seriously- so I mean it when I say.... This is the best fuckin' GF bread in the WORLD 

(if you're into sour dough at all)     http://www.breadsrsly.com/

[Andy14]

15 minutes ago, Jane M. said:

I need a gif of Axl giving the mic stand a hand job. He did it again last night during Mr. Brownstone, iirc or one of the first songs. 

Please?

[Rock Hopper]

21 minutes ago, Axl_Fetish said:

As a native San Franciscan, I take my sour dough bread very seriously- so I mean it when I say.... This is the best fuckin' GF bread in the WORLD 

(if you're into sour dough at all)     http://www.breadsrsly.com/

Thanks for the website, I have coeliac disease, and will be in California in September, I'm always looking for decent GF bread.  Hopefully will be able to find some.

[killuridols]

26 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

Or about us 

"...You like to have me...."

 

"...You know that I
Got under your skin
You sold your soul
But I won't let you win..."

No, the part about us is this:

"You tell them story's they'd rather believe
Use and confuse them their numb and naive"

7 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

Grandpa Angus does not approve of this behavior

[Jane M.]

5 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

I love you

THANKS!

[Rock Hopper]

@killuridols

Grandpa Angus used to bear his arse on stage, so I don't think he will be that bothered.

[Andy14]

17 minutes ago, killuridols said:

Grandpa Angus does not approve of this behavior

 

9 minutes ago, Rock Hopper said:

Grandpa Angus used to bear his arse on stage, so I don't think he will be that bothered.

What is the difference between ACDC and GNR?

ACDC

GNR

[killuridols]

9 minutes ago, Rock Hopper said:

@killuridols

Grandpa Angus used to bear his arse on stage, so I don't think he will be that bothered.

show me

well he's now become a different man and he's looking after his boy...

3 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

What is the difference between ACDC and GNR?

ACDC

GNR

aaahahahahahaha

[Rock Hopper]

6 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

 

What is the difference between ACDC and GNR?

ACDC

GNR

@killuridols

Grandpa Angus used to bear his arse on stage, so I don't think he will be that bothered.

You forget, Angus is the star of the show in AC/DC, Axl has to keep out of his way, and not throw mic stands about so he doesn't fall over it or get hit.  All Axl has to do is turn up on time, sing well and not get in Angus way.

Edited July 16, 2016 by Rock Hopper