Andy14 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I think I should come back to this thread some other time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 28 minutes ago, stella said: But Stephanie's case shouldn't have been at Erin's expense. That's the crux of it, for me. An abuse victim shouldn't be required to expose their story and make it a matter of court record in order to help further another person's financial gain, especially if they have not filed their own case. Erin should have had the right not to be dragged into someone else's civil case. It's legal, but IMHO it's unethical and a pretty awful thing to do to someone. If it were a criminal case, I'd feel differently. Meegan wasn't an abuse victim; she was a witness. She wasn't asked to share intimate details of her personal life and experiences; just what she saw. It's not the same thing. I understand what you are saying. But it's legal. And Stephanie or anyone in a similar situation can do the same thing. I don't make the laws. I'm not sure Erin was dragged because she also decided to join Stephanie. Her duty was to be a mere witness. Erin decided to go a step further. Erin was the only wife Axl had and she was probably the longest partner in his life. She was the best possible witness 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 7 hours ago, Frey said: I don't think it's hard to understand. Wouldn't you want to stand up for somebody you love (and she does love him, she said so recently) if you feel someone's trying to hurt them/is nasty to them? If it had been by my girlfriend or someone else I love, I would probably haven gotten involved and said something as well. There's inconsistency on Erin's part though. She unwillingly testified for Stephanie's lawsuit, but she sued Axl as well; of course she had every right to do it (and she could have pressed criminal charges too). Let's say this was decades ago, so it doesn't mean anything regarding her current feelings. But then, there was the auction three years ago, which doesn't seem to me like a thing someone would do to a person who he/she cares about even a little; among the things she sold there is some very personal stuff, for example the notes we discussed here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lumikki Posted August 4, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) So much stuff to comment on, but first of all, Erin going to town on Steph Seymour and her asshole kids? Daaaammmnnn. You go Erin, tell them off if you feel they're being cruel. I don't care if she should have gotten involved or not, I would have gotten involved too if someone posted something that I perceived as a slight towards someone I care about. And I enjoy someone saying it like it is about that awful family. #TeamErin #likemotherlikeson FTW @stella Thanks for explaining about this whole thing being a mandatory court order. I'm not familiar with the US legal system and hadn't realized that. No wonder she is pissed at Steph. I would be incredibly pissed too if I just wanted to get on with my life in peace and then got dragged back into this mess by someone looking to make some quick money. And yeah, having to sit there and answer all these invasive questions (and they were really fucking invasive from what I remember) can't have been pleasant or good for her. I think your thoughts on why she became a plaintiff make sense as well. ------------------------------------- @Andy14 LOL GIRL Grandpa Angus approves of your opinions on swearing and hats. And wasn't that a much better use of your time than the actual work you were supposed to do? ------------------------------------- As for Grace's band opening for GnR... Well, I'm gonna watch it on Periscope probably. It's kind of surreal to have a GnR kid opening up for GnR But yeah, it's nepotism at its finest. I've listened to a few of their songs and I'm not a music expert or anything, but they just aren't that good. There's no way they would have gotten that gig (and various others) if Duff wasn't her father. And Grace is also not much of a singer. I guess she tries to make up for it with stage antics. Next up: Keyboard/piano solo for Cash during the Guns show. (I remember Slash saying that Cash was really into keyboards and piano. And isn't that ironic considering Slash's disdain for Dizzy Reed and Axl's piano ballads and shit #karmastrikesagain) On 3.8.2016 at 9:29 AM, MillionsOfSpiders said: I would love to be "all girls together" and say what a great break she got and how well she's done, but I just can't. I hate all the black and white stuff, there's far too much of it, you drain something of its colour and it takes away from the picture imo. Now AC/DC are all b&w too! I was having a look through my pile of old tour programs the other day and I found a Chinese Democracy tour one, the one with the red hand on the front so think it was a 2010 one, they didn't put the year on it anyway...all the pics inside are b&w and it totally ruins in for me. Yeah, same. I hate women tearing each other down or being bitchy about each other (there should be much more of the opposite), but her pictures just aren't that good and they irritate me. All the black & white and the constant full body shots, the lack of any emotion or soul in the pictures... urgh. But I have to admit I'm really glad to see so many people here disliking her pictures as well, I thought I was the only one or just being overly picky @Blackstar Thank you for posting all these old interviews! I think I've read those before, but I'd forgotten about most of the stuff in them. Like Axl crying because of Izzy during that photoshoot with Steph for example. Awww But like @killuridols said, it's good to re-read stuff you read when you were younger with a more adult perspective. I agree with @MillionsOfSpiders and @Frey , regression therapy is bullshit and all of Axl's so-called therapists are frauds. Dear Axl, you do not remember things "from basically the point of conception" (urgh!) because that is absolutely impossible, you were neither Napoleon nor the man who nailed Jesus to the cross in your past lifes, and Stephanie and Erin did not kill your children in that past life when you were Native Americans. (I'm not knocking belief in past lifes by the way, it's as possible as anything we can't know, I just think the specific things they told him or made him come up with under hypnosis are ridiculous and I hope he doesn't still believe that crap...) That said, after reading these interviews, I'm also more inclined to think there's some truth to the kidnapping story. I always assumed he just came up with (or maybe remembered) that whole awful scenario while under hypnosis, but if it actually kind of came to him while awake and he has some corroboration from family (although he doesn't say they directly admitted it or ever told him that this is exactly what happened either...), then... well. The reason I always assumed he came up with it under hypnosis was the horror movie-like details he described when he told that story, like him remembering there was a needle and him getting a shot before his father supposedly abused him. That kind of sounds more like something you'd dream in a nightmare or see in a movie (the bad man kidnapping a child with syringes full of sedatives or whatever at the ready). I mean obviously incredibly horrible shit happens in real life too, but the likelihood of some random good-for-nothing guy in the 1960s having a plan to kidnap and abuse a toddler, prepared with medical instruments and everything... I don't know. I hate saying this because I'd rather believe abuse/rape survivors on principle and not doubt them, but to be honest I think a lot of Axl's stories seem a touch made up. I'm not saying he's lying, just that "therapy" might have made him come up with/remember a few things a bit differenty from what actually happened or that he slightly edited some of his stories. Like the hitchhiking story he also talked about again in @Blackstars interviews. I agree with whoever said that the way he tells it sounds like something out of an action movie. I know Axl is one tough cookie if he has to be, but he was also a kid there. A pretty tiny and skinny kid and by his own admission also very tired, scared and naive. And then he heroically fought that guy off with a straight razor and he also managed to give him that whole "Don't ever touch me again! Don't think about touching me! Don't touch yourself and think about me!" speech before sending the guy running?? Definitely sounds like a movie scene and like the way everyone would wish to get out of a situation like that, but if I'm honest with myself, I know that I myself at least probably wouldn't be able to pull something like that off in the same situation. On 2.8.2016 at 2:14 PM, Blackstar said: - The Vegas 2001 show incident, when Slash wasn't allowed in because, according to Axl, he had his guitar with him and he would sabotage the show. - The rant about Slash and the old band, where Axl seems very nervous: - At that period (2001-2002) Axl kicked out of his life most of the people that were near him since the old days: Robert John, Doug Goldstein, Tom Zutaut (Del James and Marc Canter were the exceptions). Craig Duswalt may have left at that time as well; although he doesn't say in his book when exactly and why he stopped working for Axl, he mentions that he was around up to a point in the early CD era and after that he and Axl met again in 2006. - There is also the crazy story Tom Zutaut said in the BBC doc (that Axl believed that it was someone else in Slash's body). Zutaut hasn't spoken with Axl since 2001 (at least as far as we know), so he couldn't know what Axl believed in 2015, but what he said may have been true at the time he was still around. He has also said that everyone back then was mocking Axl behind his back because of his crazy beliefs. There is an Axl interview from 2001, where he said that his relationship with Slash fell out when Slash "died" from the overdose: The start of the fight between them, was the hospilization of the guitarist in 1992, because of an overdose. - Do you remember that movie "Pulp Fiction"? He needed to get an injection in the heart like in the movie - he said. In later interviews Axl didn't seem to believe such a thing though, because his negative accounts on Slash (for example that he wanted to "take over the band") were going back before the 1992 incident. All of that, plus him travelling with a psychiatrist and considering checking himself into a psyciatric clinic, his drastically changed appearance, him still causing riots and cancelling tours, the video of him singing without his pants... It all paints a really dark picture. I hope that when (if...) Axl writes his biography, he'll tell us what was going on with him in all these mysterious and lost years. On 2.8.2016 at 6:44 PM, Frey said: Like other people have said, children always tend to long for their parents, even abused ones. But yeah, that's also why I said in my earlier post that he shouldn't have tried to have a relationship with his step father anyway. The last thing anyone needs is to play happy family with someone who sexually abused you. But it's a bit of a muddy issue, because we don't know for sure if that even happened. On the one hand you have people like Beta or Tom Zutaut who say Axl was sexually abused by his step father. And to be honest I don't see why Zutaut would make up a story about Axl telling him that his step father used to rape him in public toilets. That would be a pretty sick thing to make up just to make some random documentary more interesting or whatever. But on the other hand, Axl himself has never said anything like that as far as I know. He only talked about his biological father raping him as a small child and his step father molesting his sister. He never talked (in public) about his step father sexually abusing him too. He might have had his reasons not to talk about that in public (considering his step father and other family members were all still alive), but then again why tell everyone about his sister then? This is true. I think I've said something similar here before about how weird it was for Zutaut to tell that story. Both because it's kind of inappropriate and very personal and I think he shouldn't have told this story in some random documentary, but also because Axl has never said anything like that. He only ever talked about his step father beating him. (And I know Beta has also said Axl was sexually abused by his step father in one of these shady old interviews, but Beta seems to confuse things a lot, so...) But then again, Axl also called him a monster and the most dangerous man he's ever met and now Axl's sister called him satanic apparently? Sounds a bit heavier than just some asshole "smacking his kids around" (as Izzy put it ). Another issue for the biography, I guess. 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Słash Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 18 minutes ago, Blackstar said: There's inconsistency on Erin's part though. She unwillingly testified for Stephanie's lawsuit, but she sued Axl as well; of course she had every right to do it (and she could have pressed criminal charges too). Let's say this was decades ago, so it doesn't mean anything regarding her current feelings. But then, there was the auction three years ago, which doesn't seem to me like a thing someone would do to a person who he/she cares about even a little; among the things she sold there is some very personal stuff, for example the notes we discussed here. True and I would like to add another thing, Erin has started to show her love for Axl since Slash and Meegan got together and since Axl and Slash sorted out their differences. She knows her way to Axl is through Slash, but it seems that has failed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 3 hours ago, stella said: When you're subpoena'd you have to go to court. It's a court order, and if you don't go, they can hold you in contempt of court and throw you in jail. She didn't really have a choice there. Not a pleasant thing. And on that, IMHO Eirn would have been more than justified to be pissed iMHO...Stephanie actually exploited Erin's traumatic experiences to fuel her own lawsuit, which is a pretty shitty thing to do. This IS the concept people don't seem to understand here. SUBPOENA. Thank you for clarifying Stella! I know many people here are not American and don't understand these legal terms but it is like that. Do not go around saying ERIN JOINED STEPHANIE TO SHIT ON AXL. NO, IT WASN'T LIKE THAT. ERIN WAS LEGALLY FORCED BY STEPHANIE TO TESTIFY AGAINST AXL. Please, this thread should be educational and now everybody should learn what is the truth. Don't spread more lies about Erin. She didn't want to do that. In the end, it is Axl's fault for wanting to have a relationship with two women at the same time. He was an idiot for doing what he did. That's the price he payed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Axl_Fetish Posted August 4, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2016 I'm wondering if this "esperly_" account is even real. I mean, if it is... Erin comes off as having a screw loose. I know ya'all "'ship" Ax and Erin.... but... It was an abusive, complicated relationship that happened a long, long time ago. It just sounds like an account run by a 12 year old girl... first she auctions off all of her keepsakes from that marriage, and then she starts posting all this "Love of my Life" drivel online? Doesn't make sense. 3 minutes ago, killuridols said: Do not go around saying ERIN JOINED STEPHANIE TO SHIT ON AXL. NO, IT WASN'T LIKE THAT. ERIN WAS LEGALLY FORCED BY STEPHANIE TO TESTIFY AGAINST AXL. BUT SHE WAS NOT LEGALLY FORCED TO SUE AXL ON HER OWN, AFTER SS CASE WAS SETTLED. She filed her own, separate case... ON HER OWN... suing Axl for $$$$$$ As for Harry Brant... what a creepy, vile little person. He's most likely jealous of how successful Guns is right now... while his Mom latest claim to fame is yet another stint in the local rehab. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, Axl_Fetish said: I'm wondering if this "esperly_" account is even real. I mean, if it is... Erin comes off as having a screw loose. I know ya'all "'ship" Ax and Erin.... but... It was an abusive, complicated relationship that happened a long, long time ago. It just sounds like an account run by a 12 year old girl... first she auctions off all of her keepsakes from that marriage, and then she starts posting all this "Love of my Life" drivel online? Doesn't make sense. BUT SHE WAS NOT LEGALLY FORCED TO SUE AXL ON HER OWN, AFTER SS CASE WAS SETTLED. She filed her own, separate case... ON HER OWN... suing Axl for $$$$$$ Probably because she was HURT AS FUCK by a guy who involved her in loads of bullshit! Axl not only mistreated her before, married her under crazy circumstances, then tried to divorce within a month, got her pregnant, she miscarried, she was left alone, then the break up. Six month later the fucker gets a new girlfriend. Makes a FUCKIN' VIDEO where his NEW GF plays ERIN . Makes November Rain video, based on the story of AXL & ERIN When Stephanie dumps Axl he tries to go back to Erin....... jeez... HOW MUCH CAN A YOUNG WOMAN TAKE FROM SUCH A GUY??? He fuckin' destroyed her. The least he could do is financially compensate her for all the crap he put her through! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 48 minutes ago, Blackstar said: There's inconsistency on Erin's part though. She unwillingly testified for Stephanie's lawsuit, but she sued Axl as well; of course she had every right to do it (and she could have pressed criminal charges too). Let's say this was decades ago, so it doesn't mean anything regarding her current feelings. But then, there was the auction three years ago, which doesn't seem to me like a thing someone would do to a person who he/she cares about even a little; among the things she sold there is some very personal stuff, for example the notes we discussed here. 1 minute ago, Axl_Fetish said: I'm wondering if this "esperly_" account is even real. I mean, if it is... Erin comes off as having a screw loose. I know ya'all "'ship" Ax and Erin.... but... It was an abusive, complicated relationship that happened a long, long time ago. It just sounds like an account run by a 12 year old girl... first she auctions off all of her keepsakes from that marriage, and then she starts posting all this "Love of my Life" drivel online? Doesn't make sense. BUT SHE WAS NOT LEGALLY FORCED TO SUE AXL ON HER OWN, AFTER SS CASE WAS SETTLED. She filed her own, separate case... ON HER OWN... suing Axl for $$$$$$ It IS her account. She posts pictures of her children and herself all the time and Meegan talks to her as well. I don't think she comes off like she has a screw loose but she does come across as a bit... sheltered. Innocent? I've also read on here somewhere that people have described her as a bit naive or simple. Don't know if that is true obviously, but it fits well with the second point you guys brought up- her selling Axl's old crap. Because she did say that she didn't mean to hurt or offended anyone by doing that. Considering what I said above, I could even see that being the truth. Maybe it really was just a carthartic thing for her (with the bonus of making some money on the side as well). If you look at her IG, it was around the same time she also posted stuff about forgiving and letting go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Axl involved Erin and Stephanie in everything he did. It was his choice to put these women together and use them for his art. It must be very hard to deal with that for the rest of your life. Now the guy is singing songs about you for 60,000 people every other day. There are music videos, songs, music, stories, documentaries, everything where your face and your relationship are exposed. I can't blame Erin for feeling whatever she feels. She didn't choose to become an icon in Guns N' Roses music. Axl made decisions for her. He impregnated his music and his lyrics with this romantic relationship. Deal with it now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Babooshka said: This is a common phrase though. Just because he posted it, doesn't mean he was referencing Axl. It makes no sense for him to do that. I doubt he even knows Axl once used it about his mother. That's similar to what I think. But as I said before it was some isolated post. Only the Brant kid knows what he is talking about. By reading the post I'm assuming he meant the car accident his mother was involved early this year. In that case he sounds like an idiot. DUI is not a laugh matter. What Stephanie did was wrong. It is not something to be proud about. If Erin is pissed off because the kid is supporting wrong doing then I understand. But if she is pissed off because SHE THINKS the kid is mocking Axl. I'm afraid that's not the case. Unless she knows something that we don't. And the last part about some day telling the truth. That wasn't necessary. Some day could be never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, Padme said: That's similar to what I think. But as I said before it was some isolated post. Only the Brant kid knows what he is talking about. By reading the post I'm assuming he meant the car accident his mother was involved early this year. In that case he sounds like an idiot. DUI is not a laugh matter. What Stephanie did was wrong. It is not something to be proud about. If Erin is pissed off because the kid is supporting wrong doing then I understand. But if she is pissed off because SHE THINKS the kid is mocking Axl. I'm afraid that's not the case. Unless she knows something that we don't. And the last part about some day telling the truth. That wasn't necessary. Some day could be never. This brant brat comes across an idiot who is supporting his mother, he just used the Axl quote to make fun of the law and not Axl, but whatever it is, he is still an idiot cause its not a laughing matter. But I assume Erin seems to think that this brat was making fun of Axl so she got "offended" by it. I assume that "truth" would be that how she was forced by Stephanie and brain washed by Stephanie and her lawyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Padme said: I understand what you are saying. But it's legal. And Stephanie or anyone in a similar situation can do the same thing. I don't make the laws. I'm not sure Erin was dragged because she also decided to join Stephanie. Her duty was to be a mere witness. Erin decided to go a step further. Erin was the only wife Axl had and she was probably the longest partner in his life. She was the best possible witness Yes, unfortunately what's legal isn't always ethical in cases like these. I know you're not responsible for it. I do wonder, as I said, if Erin decided to join the lawsuit because her personal life had already been exposed for all to see and she decided to at least try to get something out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, Padme said: That's similar to what I think. But as I said before it was some isolated post. Only the Brant kid knows what he is talking about. By reading the post I'm assuming he meant the car accident his mother was involved early this year. In that case he sounds like an idiot. DUI is not a laugh matter. What Stephanie did was wrong. It is not something to be proud about. If Erin is pissed off because the kid is supporting wrong doing then I understand. But if she is pissed off because SHE THINKS the kid is mocking Axl. I'm afraid that's not the case. Unless she knows something that we don't. And the last part about some day telling the truth. That wasn't necessary. Some day could be never. She obviously thinks the kid is quoting and mocking Axl or she wouldn't have written "At least be original" and "Let others live in peace". Erin being pissed off because the kid is making light of drunk driving makes no sense if you read what she actually wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) When I read it for the first time, that's what I thought too. Axl's words. I think lots of people would have made the association. At least, Guns N' Roses fans would do it. Not sure what the brat knows about Axl but its impossible he doesn't know anything! His mother is the star in one of the most popular Guns N' Roses videos with billions of views on YouTube. Everything about their relationship can be found a click away from Google and YouTube. I don't think it was related to the car accident. That would be even more distasteful than referrencing Axl. However, anything can be expected from those brats so Edited August 4, 2016 by killuridols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 At the end of the day I feel a ton of empathy for Erin. From all accounts she seems like a sweet person who's been through a lot of very bad shit. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 15 minutes ago, stella said: At the end of the day I feel a ton of empathy for Erin. From all accounts she seems like a sweet person who's been through a lot of very bad shit. Yeah. I mean, her intentions are good in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Ok, changing subjects a bit.... On November 4th, 2016.... this is what's gonna happen..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 25 minutes ago, Frey said: She obviously thinks the kid is quoting and mocking Axl or she wouldn't have written "At least be original" and "Let others live in peace". Erin being pissed off because the kid is making light of drunk driving makes no sense if you read what she actually wrote. But she is wrong. It doesn't look like the kid is mocking Axl. Unless as I said she knows something that we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ota Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 28 minutes ago, Slash787 said: This brant brat comes across an idiot who is supporting his mother, he just used the Axl quote to make fun of the law and not Axl, but whatever it is, he is still an idiot cause its not a laughing matter. But I assume Erin seems to think that this brat was making fun of Axl so she got "offended" by it. I assume that "truth" would be that how she was forced by Stephanie and brain washed by Stephanie and her lawyers. Truth ? Once I found this article http://youcantkillstraightedge.blogspot.cz/2009/11/why-drug-abuse-and-relationships-dont.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ota said: Truth ? Once I found this article http://youcantkillstraightedge.blogspot.cz/2009/11/why-drug-abuse-and-relationships-dont.html Im not saying Stephanie is a saint, doing drugs in front of your kid is wrong and even beating your wife/girlfriend is wrong. Erin was not a kid that she got manipulated, she was an adult that time and she did nothing wrong if she sued Axl. My thing is now suddenly Stephanie has become bad for Erin and some how the love inside for Axl has risen up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giuls Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 It was a birthday wish, i think it was referring Axl, not the car accident, not to make a dig but because it's a famous quote like when we wished happy birthday to Slash in the apposite topic and there was a lot of "Happy bday to Saul from pasadena" etc., i don't think it was in good taste and it would be better if he wrote an original message but i think you're reading a bit too much in his post, he's just a brat who was trying to be witty and failing miserably, not that i care, he's a idiot, but i genuinely find HILARIOUS how this have sprung from birthday wishes, i'm cackling since this morning @Lumikki the thing that sold me on the abuse was the story about his grandma nodding yes when he was asking her questions, i can see why she wouldn't want to give him detail, about fighting off that man, adrenaline is an awesome thing that can make one do things you'd never think you'll be able to do, i agree the straight razor thing seem an invention but the core of the fight is plausible. @killuridols Blessed be the person that was supporting Axl's derrière @Ota it's a random blog without souces and its thesis is that Axl can't possibly have abused Erin and Stephanie because he didn't do drugs, abusers can be sober but still beat you up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Huh Adler raped Erin? Isnt just because overdose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 You also don't need to be on drugs to be out of your mind, clearly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 26 minutes ago, Padme said: But she is wrong. It doesn't look like the kid is mocking Axl. Unless as I said she knows something that we don't. I wouldn't be so sure she is wrong. Maybe the brat was not consciously mocking anyone, but I do think he used that quote knowing it was a quote by the guy his mom dated. Which would already be enough to leave a bad taste in someone's mouth if they're close to Axl. And personally I wouldnt put anything past these asswipes. They're the worst and defintely would intentionally try to cause drama and publicity by doing something like that if they felt like it. 9 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said: Huh Adler raped Erin? Isnt just because overdose It's a random bullshit blog written by a random and clearly crazy person. Why are people here taking this seriously?! No one has ever said anything about Adler raping Erin and I'm pretty sure Stephanie wasn't constantly abusing Axl while she was with him. She's a bitch, but I don't see her beating poor Axl all the time The person who wrote this entire thing just really hates drugs and people who take drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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