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50 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

http://www.legendaryrockinterviews.com/2014/11/10/well-well-well-you-never-can-tell-an-interview-with-guns-n-roses-insider-my-michelle-young/

Never Seen this interview with Michelle Young before. 

I had no idea her relationship with Axl went into the 90s. 

Not sure if I read this in 2014 but here are some interesting excerpts for us to discuss....

LRI:  What about the romantic or sweet parts of the song where he speaks to falling in love and finding someone and all of that part of “My Michelle”??  Were you and he or any of the other guys in the band involved at that point or at any point romantically?

Michelle:  Yeah, we had a ummm….love affair, I mean I’m trying to make it sound better than what it was (laughs).  We had “romantic involvings” (laughs) for many years.  It was on and off for many years and it was a tumultuous relationship for sure.

LRI:  Wow, for years you said?

Michelle:  At least four or five years, possibly six or seven years yeahEven after “November Rain” and the second and third album came out we were having encounters yeah.  It was mostly because we really were such good friends but when I would see him it would be once or twice a year and we would have (laughs) sexual relations (laughs).

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LRI:  The GNR “Live Era” version of “My Michelle” somehow manages to crank up the rage even more than the studio version with Axl changing “Party til your connection calls” to “FUCK til your connection calls” and even calling you a “little bitch” during the chorus.  What did you think when you heard that version, which I’m thinking was recorded during the Illusion tour?

Michelle:  That’s because he was mad at me at the time, again it was always tumultuous even though we really didn’t see each other that much it was always on and off and always tumultuous.  He was mad at me at that point, for what I don’t even remember because he would get mad at me all the time for various different things.  One minute it would be “Oh, Michelle is such a good friend of mine, I love her so much, the song’s about her” and the next time it would be “Oh that fucking bitch didn’t show up for my concert because she’s doing acid with her friends, I fucking hate her”.  That actually happened once.  He was getting tickets for my little cousins and I to go to the concert and I was supposed to be there to meet him, I believe it was in Anaheim or something.  My younger cousins went and were just shocked and came back and said “Oh my god Michelle, he talked sooo much shit about you” and that was all because I didn’t show up.  I told him “I can’t Axl, I’m on acid” which I was (laughs) but I was like “Wow, he didn’t have to tell everybody” (laughs).  He would stay with me at my dad’s house a lot, he would sleep over a lot and I would take him all over, to shows and stuff, because he didn’t drive so I would take him to concerts and gigs all around.  I would wait for him when he’d get ready to go and put up with his tantrums and hissy fits and all of that shit so no the live version of that song doesn’t surprise me to answer your question.

LRI:  Were you ever surprised when you heard about any of the relationship issues or dealings that Axl had over the years with women like Erin Everly or Stephanie Seymour?

Michelle:  No, I mean, Erin would call me crying when she lived in Hancock Park and they would fight.  I was just talking to someone just a couple days ago about that actually.  I mean, nothing surprises me when it comes to Axl.  If he could disappoint 90,000 fans because he doesn’t feel like going onstage then it’s not that much of a stretch to think he could disappoint one woman he cares about.  Nothing shocks me in regards to him.

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Again, what we were talking about before with @Lumikki and others... :rolleyes: Axl would cheat on Erin over and over; she was his "official" girlfriend for 6 years as well (probably the same time Michelly mentions here) but he was not exclusive with her. How many people can we count on here? Michelle Young, Adriana Smith, Barbie and god knows how many others :facepalm:. Then he jumped on Stephanie and the same shit... he can't let go of Erin, Michelle, etc. but the sir gets mad because Stephanie allegedly cheated on him :rolleyes:. The whole situation is lulz.

Really good interview, sounds like an honest woman but I can't help feeling much more disappointed for Erin and all she had to put through. :unsure:

 

Edit: I guess Michelle must be one of the persons he means when he said that thing about your friends sometimes being your lovers too, or whatever he said...

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@killuridols i won't really define them as good friend? She keeps saying they didn't see each other much and then they would have sex, it seems to me it was a fuckbuddies kind of situation but yes, Erin was constantly cheated on but he couldn't bear it when it happened to him, it's textbook cheater and it's shitty. I find quite sad that Erin cried to someone her husband was cheating with, poor girl.

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23 minutes ago, giuls said:

@killuridols i won't really define them as good friend? She keeps saying they didn't see each other much and then they would have sex, it seems to me it was a fuckbuddies kind of situation but yes, Erin was constantly cheated on but he couldn't bear it when it happened to him, it's textbook cheater and it's shitty. I find quite sad that Erin cried to someone her husband was cheating with, poor girl.

hmm I think you don't need to see your friends all the time every day. That only happens when you're a child or teenagers. After that, life takes over, everybody gets a new life and duties but that doesn't mean you can't be friends or you should not consider someone a friend if you can't see them or hang out with them that often.

I have a friend who I consider one of my best and I have not seen him in over a year, but we keep in contact through Facebook or whatsapp pretty often. We are both busy with work, families, etc. but we consider each other really good friends.

Yeah, poor Erin, she probably considered Michelle a friend too if she would call her to talk about her fights with Axl, which is pretty fucked up because Michelle was fucking Erin's boyfriend/husband too :unsure:

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1 hour ago, Jane M. said:

I think that's how everyone feels about Axl. I think that's why he can be an asshole many times but people still care. Michelle seems to be a good person and I'm glad she's doing great.

Thanks for posting that @MillionsOfSpiders.

I liked that bit too. There's been things I've read about him that have made me really really dislike him at times, over the years. But there's something underneath all of that, that's worth not giving up on him. 

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1 minute ago, killuridols said:

hmm I think you don't need to see your friends all the time every day. That only happens when you're a child or teenagers. After that, life takes over, everybody gets a new life and duties but that doesn't mean you can't be friends or you should not consider someone a friend if you can't see them or hang out with them that often.

I have a friend who I consider one of my best and I have not seen him in over a year, but we keep in contact through Facebook or whatsapp pretty often. We are both busy with work, families, etc. but we consider each other really good friends.

Yeah, poor Erin, she probably considered Michelle a friend too if she would call her to talk about her fights with Axl, which is pretty fucked up because Michelle was fucking Erin's boyfriend/husband too :unsure:

I wasn't strictly talking about the frequence, i'm talking about the sex, she said herself they had "romantic involvements" and during the 90s she said they saw each-other and had sex, that's not a friend situation, if you see each other once or twice a year and have sex like she said in the second question it's a fuckbuddy situation to me.

 

Just now, MillionsOfSpiders said:

I liked that bit too. There's been things I've read about him that have made me really really dislike him at times, over the years. But there's something underneath all of that, that's worth not giving up on him. 

MTE, i think it was Izzy that said that even when Axl was shitty, there was something for which they would stay, it seems a common situation with Axl. 

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57 minutes ago, tiutso said:

This is a thing, apparently :shrugs:
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wow

Is Juliette involved in that?? :rofl-lol:

I have no idea because the only one I follow is Grace but I hardly EVER read the comments they leave to her as I find them boring and 99% of the time I dont understand what the fuck those people are talking about so everything is :sleeper: to me.

Pretty sure the ones hating on Duff's daugthers are new GNR fans, the teenager ones, because I couldn't conceive the old lineup fandom going that route. People in their 30s-40s bullying teenage girls? You gotta be pretty fucked up to do that.

It's in most part jealousy and too much time in their hands. :shrugs:

 

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Its fucked up to pick on Duffs daughters. If they don't like the music, just don't listen. I don't care if they come from a privileged background or whatever. Bullying is bullying!! 

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7 minutes ago, giuls said:

I wasn't strictly talking about the frequence, i'm talking about the sex, she said herself they had "romantic involvements" and during the 90s she said they saw each-other and had sex, that's not a friend situation, if you see each other once or twice a year and have sex like she said in the second question it's a fuckbuddy situation to me.

I think  it's a mixture of both. They started as friends, then fuckbuddies, but it seems Axl cared about her if she's telling he got mad because she couldn't attend some show he invited her too and he wrote a song for her. That shows he cared for her, considered her a friend when showing her or singing songs to her on the phone to ask her opinion.

Not sure if fuckbuddy goes that lenght...

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5 minutes ago, starlight said:

Axl was an asshole for cheating on Erin,she really loved him :facepalm:

He could still be with her and have children with that beauty if he had not been such an asshole wanting all the women in the world for him.

Now he complains about his sad sad love life.

Well, that's what you made of it Axl :rolleyes:

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15 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

I liked that bit too. There's been things I've read about him that have made me really really dislike him at times, over the years. But there's something underneath all of that, that's worth not giving up on him. 

It's been the same for me and if us, fans, feel like that just imagine what Izzy, Slash, Erin and who knows how many more must have gone through. After years and years of lots of drama and bs they won't give up.

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@tiutso Yeah, I saw that. Sad, but not surprising. The same thing happened with Meegan. There are always a few sick individuals who have nothing better to do with their time than bullying others. I mean I don't particularly care for Grace's band or her singing or whatever either, but that's no reason to be nasty to her.

Btw, did you already read Tracii's book? Any interesting stories to tell?

@annablue That's cool. I don't actually have these, I just found the scans somewhere on the internet (I was a baby or something when these came out, so unforuntately I have zero actual stuff from back in the day...)

@MillionsOfSpiders Thanks for sharing that interview! I had never seen it before either. Some interesting stuff in there.

I had no idea his relationship with Michelle lasted this long either. But yeah, yet another person in the endless list of women Axl screwed around with while officially dating Erin/Steph  :rolleyes::facepalm:

Random small things that stood out to me:

- Axl constantly singing her new songs over the phone. Cute.

- I'm glad to hear Axl was never violent with her, but the way she describes it he still sounds fucking exhausting to live with. All the "hissy fits and tantrums" as she called it and him being sweet and loving one moment and a jerk the next

- The author says "Everyone has heard rumors of Axl supposedly being bipolar or at least having some kind of childhood post traumatic stress disorder." But that's actually the first time ever that I've seen the childhood-related PTSD thing mentioned in an article or interview about Axl. The only place I've ever seen this brought up was here on this board. Usually it's just bipolar/manic-depressive, crazy or simply an asshole when it comes to journalists and magazines. You can tell that the guy talked to a lot of people who know/knew Axl.

- She says Axl doesn't (didn't) drive and she constantly drove him everywhere? But Axl does have a driver's license because Izzy said they did driver's Ed together and there's enough pictures/videos of him driving cars, soo...

My best guess is Axl maybe doesn't like to drive and that's why he let's people like Michelle (or now Beta etc) drive him everywhere. Also I have heard at least two people (one of these being Izzy) say that Axl is an absolutely terrible driver. :lol: I can absolutely believe that, considering both his temper and that he tends to be in his own head a lot, and also easily distracted. Tbh, I would be scared to get into a car with Axl driving :nervous::P

 

 

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4 minutes ago, tiutso said:

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Man, look at everyone lookig like shit besides Axl. Who finalizes shots like this? :lol:

Slash looks good too, you don't know if he's fucked up with the glasses and the hair

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6 minutes ago, Lumikki said:

My best guess is Axl maybe doesn't like to drive and that's why he let's people like Michelle (or now Beta etc) drive him everywhere. Also I have heard at least two people (one of these being Izzy) say that Axl is an absolutely terrible driver. I can absolutely believe that, considering both his temper and that he tends to be in his own head a lot, and also easily distracted. Tbh, I would be scared to get into a car with Axl driving :nervous::P

Yes.

That's the reason why I don't drive either. I don't have the temper a responsible driver needs, especially when you live in a major city or metropolis.

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11 minutes ago, killuridols said:

He could still be with her and have children with that beauty if he had not been such an asshole wanting all the women in the world for him.

Now he complains about his sad sad love life.

Well, that's what you made of it Axl :rolleyes:

Yeah. I admit I'm not Erin biggest fan but I prefer her over the other Axl's women.

She seems nice and was always caring towards Axl and he treated her like shit.<_<

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Axl drives his sports cars, there's that Ferrari and Lamborghini he's had, he was on YouTube driving them. Also a red and white vintage mustang he's been seen in around LA. And who can forget what he did to the loaned out Bentley :lol:

Sorry for the car post, I like cars lol 

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30 minutes ago, tiutso said:

I'm skinny enough to have been bullied for looking like a skeleton my entire life and yet I still have cellulite everywhere where I have the littlest amount of fat :max: Hurray for shitty blood circulation.

I haven't and I won't 'cause I didn't find any way to pirate it, and I'm not gonna buy it or anything :lol:
I just stumbled upon some lengthy quotes is all. Gonna put 'em under spoiler; they've been discussed in some older thread before, don't wanna clog it up.

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"When Izzy joined London, we started doing a lot of shows together, as we were all supposedly friends. I am still friends with Nadir, which is weird. But Axl had seen Nadir detune my guitars before we went on, or so he claimed. But, sure enough, when I went to put my guitar on that night it was out of tune. I put the next guitar on – it was out of tune as well. So when we went on stage, Axl ripped up a London poster. There is a photo of this in Marc Canter’s book. That was the beginning of all hell breaking loose between those two. Axl and Izzy were kind of humble guys, but growing up they had their share of street fights. So just because they were on the quiet side, didn’t mean that they wouldn’t whip somebody’s butt. On the flip side, Nadir was a really tough guy. He had been in and out of jail, and was a pretty tough kid. A lot of the time I would pick up Axl from work at Tower Video, and a few times Nadir was waiting for Axl outside. They would have these quick little battles, then Nadir would run off. One day, Nadir was waiting outside with a gun! Axl is a tough motherfucker, man. He picked up a broken street sign and just whacked Nadir with it! As far as I know, that was the last time they tangled."
 

"... then, all of a sudden, I noticed that Axl was like talking a lot in between songs. You know like we'd play, and then he'd talk to the crowd for like five minutes in between a couple of songs. And that kind of evolved to the point where me and Izzy, you know, really provided a lot of direction, and, you know trying to like keep this thing right, and just rock'n'roll, and just fun, you know? And he was like: No, the people need to -- you know, they like it, you know? So like: Okay -- whatever, you know? But it kept getting worse and worse and worse. And then he started hanging out with Michelle Young, And that's what that song "My Michelle"'s about, is about this girl. The two last shows that I did, we do sound check, and Axl shows up kinda late -- and he flips out. He's like: Tracii, motherfucker. You know, Michelle -- you know, Michelle Young's name isn't on the guest list. I'm like: Oh, well, I put it on there. And I did, you know? I was just like: What's this guy's trip? But he really, you know, fucked up the gig for me, 'cause I was like not into it. You know, I was like: Oh, this sucks. You know, this guy's all pissed off, and now he's dictating to the 150 people that are here, you know"

" Axl kind of disappeared for a week in between two weekends of shows. I don’t know what he was doing. Maybe I thought I knew what he was doing, but I’m not going to assume what he was doing. He had called Izzy before sound check on the first night of two shows, and he told Izzy, “Tell Tracii to make sure that Michelle Young is on the guest list.” She was a friend of ours. So he showed up at sound check at 4:00 pm, and there was no guest list turned in. He went bananas on everybody. We were all like, “Jesus Christ, who is this guy?” It certainly wasn’t like Axl. It was a different person. I remember that we had a really good show that night – the place was packed. I remember Izzy and I starring across the stage at each other thinking, “What the fuck?” The vibe was just all dark and weird. The next night was the first time that Axl ever showed up late! (laughs). He really didn’t show up late, he just showed up at the last minute. After the show, I remember driving home with Duff. We were talking about how all of the fighting within the band wasn’t fun for anybody. The next week, I just stopped going to rehearsal. Axl would call me screaming and yelling, and thenIzzy would get on the phone in a more calm voice and try to reason with me. I just wanted to have a good time. I was only 18 or 19 at the time. The band had turned into the podium for Axl to speak on stage, which is a great place to speak your mind, but the other four guys on stage wanted to play our songs. We were to the point where we were playing six songs a night rather than 12. We were definitely a tight knit unit. Nobody fucked with us when we were L.A. Guns, or Guns N’ Roses. It was like, “Fuck you, this is our way. This is how we do it.” Eventually we had the “Fuck you, it’s my way” attitude within the band. (laughs). That is when I left and Slash came in."

 

lol yeah I know cellulite is not exclusive of fat or slim bodies but well, you know, it finds its way easier if you harbor whatever amount of fat in your body :unsure:

Those quotes are really cool! thank you for that!

Axl is always the crazy one but he's a damn consistent crazy motherfucker. Loved the description of him being tough, facing a guy with gun by grabbing some broken street sign and hitting the guy with it :rofl-lol:

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That's a very mature letter minus the misspelled name, it's good that he acknowledged his own faults but he knows that it wasn't the only problem and they should have talked before, the drawings are nice, i like them.

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lol from clicking on @Lumikki's link to Slash's letter to Michelle, I jumped and jumped through links, ended up on Axl's Wikipedia page and noticed an added paragraph in the last part. It is about his health and this is something I have not read before! :wow:

Have any of  you?

It comes from this article:  "Guns N' Roses From The Inside An exclusive report by Lonn M. Friend " - RIP Magazine 1992
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=9
 

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- "14 Years"

"I've had a mutated form of polio, a mutated form of rubelia, the swine flu, scarlet fever, and strep throat in my heart."

I sit slack-jawed on a dressing-room sofa in Washington, D.C., as Axl lists some of his past and present health problems. No wonder things don't always run like clockwork on the GN'R concert trail!

"It's mostly respiratory stuff," he continues. "Air conditioners in hotels circulate the same air, and on the plane everyone's breathing the same air. So if anyone's got anything, my tonsils grab it. I'm chronic like that. That's one of the reasons I've never liked touring. My resistance is low in my tonsils. I also found out it is supposedly some kind of mental thing having to do with me punishing myself for expressing myself. For 20 years of my life I was beaten by my parents for expressing myself, so part of me believes I should be punished for that expression. I do this by lowering my own resistance. Turn that around, and there you have it - self punishment. Other than that, I'm pretty healthy."

 

He's still got that :(

Always blowing his nose on stage, my poor thing....

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14 minutes ago, killuridols said:

lol from clicking on @Lumikki's link to Slash's letter to Michelle, I jumped and jumped through links, ended up on Axl's Wikipedia page and noticed an added paragraph in the last part. It is about his health and this is something I have not read before! :wow:

Have any of  you?

It comes from this article:  "Guns N' Roses From The Inside An exclusive report by Lonn M. Friend " - RIP Magazine 1992
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=9
 

He's still got that :(

Always blowing his nose on stage, my poor thing....

Oh my god, me too with the tonsils, it's really a pain in the ass, i totally got it, i have always handkerchiefs on me because of that

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