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4 hours ago, Frey said:

Maybe educated was the wrong word to use here. I didn't necessarily mean educated in the sense that you went to college and have a degree or whatever, but more like educated in a general sense. About life and everything there is to learn. I certainly don't judge people's intelligence by whether they have a degree or not.

Honestly, I'm probably biased because I can relate to Duff much more on a personal level than I can to Axl. But Duff comes across to me as someone who is level-headed, rational and makes wise decisons. Which is something I admire and none of which can be said for Axl. Obviously it's also impressive that Duff actually went back to school, has a degree, a wealth management company, great taste in books, somehow manages to have a loving family despite his rock star occupation, is thrifty and makes clever financial investments,... he just seems like a really balanced and well-rounded person in all areas of his life, who makes a lot of intelligent choices. The complete opposite of Axl basically.

And I'm also not really seeing Axl's intelligence in some of the areas claimed here in this thread. Some people mentioned linguistic and verbal intelligence, but I'm really not convinced. Axl might be a little above average in that regard compared to some random Joe on the street, but just look at the way he writes. It's usually a ranting, rambling, barely coherent mess and a grammatical nightmare. I get the impression some people are fooled into thinking he must be really clever by his endless run-on sentences and the big words he likes to use or something.

So again Duff wins in that department. Duff's writing is way better than Axl's and actually very enjoyable to read. It's insightful, engaging, witty, easy to follow (because he actually adheres to standards of proper writing and spelling) and every bit as articulate and eloquent as Axl's, if not more so. And judging by the few examples I've seen of Slash's writing, even Slash is better at it than Axl.

And yeah, Axl likes to talk, but the things that come out of his mouth have never struck me as any more intelligent/clever/insightful/articulate/eloquent etc. than the things Duff or Slash say (at least not since they got sober). Izzy can be quite clever too if he wants to. So with the exception of Steven (who really is just not the sharpest tool in the shed), I really don't see how Axl is any smarter than his band mates in that area either.

Same thing with his musical abilities. Doesn't really seem any more gifted there then Izzy, Slash or Duff to me.

Well, I wouldn't either, he's way smarter and much more influential than all of these guys, but fairly or not, that's what GNR often gets lumped into and that's the people they used to hang out with. So compared to them, it'd be relatively easy for him to appear smart or like some kind of "redneck intellectual".

If the guy really talked to as many people from GNR's inner circle as he claims, then maybe he heard some stories about Axl and his childhood (and the various issues related to that). Marc Canter especially seems to have some awareness of that.

This might also be part of the reason why people don't seem to be able to stay mad at him or to tell him to fuck off once and for all. It's harder to hate or stay mad at a guy who's just really screwed up from his childhood than someone who's just being difficult and an asshole for the hell of it. Not that his childhood is an excuse for his behavior, but yeah.

 

Axl's writing (in terms of letters or what he's written here) is very run-on and all over the place, yes. But there's still something about the way he speaks in interviews that makes me think he's smarter than the average bear. Many of the people who have interacted with him day to day - not just trying to make an assessment from a fan board - have said as much.

Duff is extremely intelligent AND smart and seems to have made wonderful decisions for himself, yes. Duff's a better prose writer, hands down with no questions. However, not all intelligent people come from the same mold, and Duff did not have to deal with the sheer amount of emotional and mental baggage that Axl seems to have. I would never underestimate panic attacks, but it's a bit different than being raised with a completely fucked-up and skewered world view from the get-go the way Axl seemed to have been. Mental health and emotional issues mess with people in all sorts of ways and affect them long-term.
 

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4 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

@Andy14 Where's that from? I Had a look on his Twitter comments for the first time in ages and I swear, the first comment I saw was DADDY :vomit:WTF?! 

 

I lost track of the intelligence debate, I just haven't got the attention span :lol:

 

I found it on Instagram. "Daddy" is horrible but "baby daddy" is something that makes Slash's creepy porn posts incredibely likeable :rofl-lol:

 

Don't worry, I also didn't follow the intelligence conversation, maybe I'm not intelligent enough lol. Yesterday I was just hibernating after Friday's party, so the debate was over my head :smiley-confused2:

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11 hours ago, acidcock27 said:

didn't axl say in a interview that he never went to school after junior year but he would take like the yearly test and he would score in the top 3%. when axl answers questions iin interviews he is able to go much deeper into the topic than your average celebrity, he expands and expands then brings everything he has said to one conclusion without even realising it. Many of the mistakes he has made have probably come from desperation rather than naivety , a desperation to be rid of whatever mental tick he has that makes him berserk

Didn't he say he took himself out of school because he wasn't learning anything. It was all too easy for him and boring. He said he took himself out of school and put himself through the school of Axl, learning about things he wanted to learn about. The school of Axl :lol: I love that. According to his friends in Indiana, "Axl school" was painting and playing his piano LOL! 

Then there was the time he refused to have any legal representation when he got into trouble for the millionth time in Indiana. He decided to represent himself :lol: he got chucked behind bars, but I love that too. 

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8 hours ago, tiutso said:

Stumbled upon an article about Slash's family. That's 1973, judging by Ash's age. Guess 'Oriental' was still an acceptable term back then.


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I love Slash's family. He was raised  by good parents I like to see pics and read things from when he was a kid

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2 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Didn't he say he took himself out of school because he wasn't learning anything. It was all too easy for him and boring. He said he took himself out of school and put himself through the school of Axl, learning about things he wanted to learn about. The school of Axl :lol: I love that. According to his friends in Indiana, "Axl school" was painting and playing his piano LOL! 

Then there was the time he refused to have any legal representation when he got into trouble for the millionth time in Indiana. He decided to represent himself :lol: he got chucked behind bars, but I love that too. 

N' didnt He usually spending time reading on His school library

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@Lanna I was just getting over my stomach flu :lol:

 

EDIT: I only just noticed there's someone inbetween Axl and that guy on the second pic. Lovely. 

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18 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Yeah, reading what though? Porno mags probably :lol:

 :facepalm:

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2 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said:

 :facepalm:

:P

Is it my old cataract infested eyes, or has Axls face on the main forum banner got an AC/DC lightning bolt on it? 

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Just now, MillionsOfSpiders said:

:P

Is it my old cataract infested eyes, or has Axls face on the main forum banner got an AC/DC lightning bolt on it? 

Yeah :D

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36 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

:P

Is it my old cataract infested eyes, or has Axls face on the main forum banner got an AC/DC lightning bolt on it? 

Is it a new thing or i'm hopelessly distracted and i never noticed?

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7 minutes ago, Lumikki said:

More baby Slash is always a good thing, right?

He looked like such a dork, never would've suspected he'd be a rock star or whatever :D

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25 minutes ago, giuls said:

Is it a new thing or i'm hopelessly distracted and i never noticed?

I have no idea, I only just noticed it today. 

Theres a picture I've seen a lot on Twitter today. What do you think? Axl or not? 

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4 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Theres a picture I've seen a lot on Twitter today. What do you think? Axl or not? 

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Doesn't look like Axl. I read in another thread (I don't remember which) that it's D.J. Ashba :lol:

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5 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Doesn't look like Axl. I read in another thread (I don't remember which) that it's D.J. Ashba :lol:

LOL!! 

The hair is too curly, I think. It's hard to tell in grainy pics though. 

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16 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

I have no idea, I only just noticed it today. 

Theres a picture I've seen a lot on Twitter today. What do you think? Axl or not? 

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15 hours ago, tiutso said:

Someone on Tumblr is spreading DJ Ashba's graduation photo as Axl's :rofl-lol:

 

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Does quoting not work normally for anyone else? I couldn't manage to quote both myself and @MillionsOfSpiders at the same time in response to the Ashba pic. And now when I quote @Frey, only an empty quote box with his name appears, without the contents :blink:

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4 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

@Frey I was just thinking, now Frey is going to be mad at me for posting fake photos :lol:

Teach me to not keep up with the thread properly ey :facepalm:

I will forgive you. Just this once :lol:

Should maybe be added to the "NOT [insert person here] post"  @Lumikki

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