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RE: Slash and family. Was this supposed to be a pic of three generations but he couldn't bring his actual son into the frame or something? :lol:

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4 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

@Lanna I was just getting over my stomach flu :lol:

 

EDIT: I only just noticed there's someone inbetween Axl and that guy on the second pic. Lovely. 

And you know who that Someone is...:vomit:

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4 hours ago, Lanna said:

It's not new,but I find it amusing as it shows some of the servants at work.13561778_1603178423345863_2105598019_n.jpg

lol who are the servants? I can only identify Sasha :P

Is she at work in the second pic?

Looks like her job doesn't require panties :rofl-lol:

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1 hour ago, killuridols said:

*things here are so much cooler when @killuridols is not around* :smiley-confused2:

I haven't spent much time here in the last couple of days as well :smiley-confused2:

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2 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

I haven't spent much time here in the last couple of days as well :smiley-confused2:

shut up, you're the popular kid, while I'm the outcast :max:

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2 hours ago, tiutso said:

RE: Slash and family. Was this supposed to be a pic of three generations but he couldn't bring his actual son into the frame or something? :lol:

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I think slash has some of the worst tattoos in GNR. That one across his stomach is terrible. I'm surprised that someone who is so artistic has such a horrible tattoo.

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10 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

I think slash has some of the worst tattoos in GNR. That one across his stomach is terrible. I'm surprised that someone who is so artistic has such a horrible tattoo.

All of theirs are kinda shit, tbh :lol:

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Omg omg omg

I need a better video of this (the Jungle from Seattle) :wow:

Axl's cheating on Slash with Duff :max:

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Those are some really cool pictures of Young Slash and with his family. 

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5 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

I have no idea, I only just noticed it today. 

Theres a picture I've seen a lot on Twitter today. What do you think? Axl or not? 

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I don't think Axl graduated ...lol.  

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5 hours ago, Frey said:

Should maybe be added to the "NOT [insert person here] post"  @Lumikki

Done. I added the fake graduation picture and also the picture of Axl holding a baby, because that one is commonly mislabeled as being Dylan (it's actually Lonn Friend's kid).

I should make a Tumblr post about this.

 

On 5.8.2016 at 9:27 PM, Lumikki said:

Omg, Andy :rofl-lol::rofl-lol::rofl-lol: All that visual fan fic you produce is hilarious :P Duff is the best lol

 

Not just the quality. Just look at the people. I don't think these pacifier chains were very common in the 60s (if they even existed) and neither were jeans jackets for babies or mothers wearing their babies in slings in Europe or the US. These are all pretty modern things (or modern again things).

It makes me irrationally angry to see all these fake pictures spread around :anger:  (Not directed at you by the way @_Mia_ but at the people who spread all that misinformation in the first place). I've seen that particular picture all over Tumblr and on Instagram too and it makes me wanna bash my head against a wall.

 

So for future reference:

NOT Axl's mom (and also not Axl):

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Also NOT Axl's mom (it's a Chilean tourist guide):

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NOT Axl's biological dad:

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NOT Axl (it's DJ Ashba):

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NOT Axl with Dylan (the baby is Lonn Friend's child):

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NOT Izzy's wife (just some chick):

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NOT Izzy (It's Richard Duagay):

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NOT Frank Ferrer (added that one in just for you, ninja friend :P@Epson)

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Did I miss anything?!

 

 

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8 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

EDIT: I only just noticed there's someone inbetween Axl and that guy on the second pic. Lovely. 

Someone? It's our beloved friend Sasha being all over Axl :P

@Lanna Thank god for the guy's knee in the picture or I would be seeing even more of Sasha's naked ass than I'm already seeing. Why does she need to climb all over Axl in public with her ass and everything hanging out like that :rolleyes::lol::facepalm:

 

6 hours ago, tiutso said:

He looked like such a dork, never would've suspected he'd be a rock star or whatever :D

I think he was an adorable child and a dorky/awkward looking teenager that turned into an attractive man. Quite similar to Axl actually. And now they're both fat adorably chunky and suffer from hair loss. More proof they were made for each other, clearly. :P

 

5 hours ago, tiutso said:

RE: Slash and family. Was this supposed to be a pic of three generations but he couldn't bring his actual son into the frame or something? :lol:

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According to Slash's dad, these pictures were taken for a magazine article about rock stars and their parents or something like that.

There's also this picture. I think it's really cute how they kinda re-created the old picture Slash is holding in the present day :heart:

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On 13.8.2016 at 3:12 PM, nn18 said:

This was cute:

That picture Slash posted couple of days ago (lol)

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From Lucy, Meegan's older daughter :D 

On 13.8.2016 at 3:24 PM, giuls said:

Sure, Slash, you don't :facepalm: don't tell me he says it's art, oh my god :rofl-lol:

:lol::rofl-lol::facepalm:

@nn18 I love how you keep noticing little stuff like that on Instagram! This and the Ashba tattoo post were some of the most hilarious things I've seen in the GnR world recently :P

And @giuls I'm willing to bet that is exactly what he told her.  :facepalm:  "I don't post porn on my Instagram, Lucy, it's art!" I can totally see that.

 

11 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Didn't he say he took himself out of school because he wasn't learning anything. It was all too easy for him and boring. He said he took himself out of school and put himself through the school of Axl, learning about things he wanted to learn about. The school of Axl :lol: I love that. According to his friends in Indiana, "Axl school" was painting and playing his piano LOL! 

Then there was the time he refused to have any legal representation when he got into trouble for the millionth time in Indiana. He decided to represent himself :lol: he got chucked behind bars, but I love that too. 

Yeah, Axl school was painting and piano, but iirc he did claim he read books about whatever subjects interested him in the library as well. (Although that still doesn't really exclude porn mags :lol:)

The story about him representing himself in court is one of my favorite Axl stories ever. I can totally picture him as a bratty, smart-mouthed kid arguing his case. And hey, he did say he wanted to become a lawyer for a while, so :P

11 hours ago, stella said:

Axl's writing (in terms of letters or what he's written here) is very run-on and all over the place, yes. But there's still something about the way he speaks in interviews that makes me think he's smarter than the average bear. Many of the people who have interacted with him day to day - not just trying to make an assessment from a fan board - have said as much.

Duff is extremely intelligent AND smart and seems to have made wonderful decisions for himself, yes. Duff's a better prose writer, hands down with no questions. However, not all intelligent people come from the same mold, and Duff did not have to deal with the sheer amount of emotional and mental baggage that Axl seems to have. I would never underestimate panic attacks, but it's a bit different than being raised with a completely fucked-up and skewered world view from the get-go the way Axl seemed to have been. Mental health and emotional issues mess with people in all sorts of ways and affect them long-term.
 

That's a good point, yes. Even the most intelligent people can be affected by mental illnesses/emotional problems which cause them to make seemingly irrational/stupid/crazy decisions.

 

16 hours ago, Frey said:

I wouldn't be that shocked. Just look at all these religious fundamentalists who have all these adult children living at home, completely under their father's authority despite the fact that they're all technically of age. The Duggars that were mentioned earlier are a famous example of that.

In Axl's case, we know that he was kicked out of his house when he was 16, so most of the beatings probably stopped then (except if he maybe went back sometimes and managed to piss his father off on these occasions). But I'd say up until the point he was 16, he probably got to feel God's wrath (lovingly delivered by his step dad) pretty regularly. These patriarchal religious nuts tend to look at their children as literal children until they move out and become the heads of their own families.

Among other things, you can kind of tell his parents thought of him and treated him like a child even by the reason he was kicked out in the first place- his hair. I mean think about it, they kicked him out for refusing to cut his hair, which implies that they felt they had a say (or even the right to decide) what his hair should look like. Which would be alright with a small child maybe, but Axl wasn't a small child, he was 16, nearly an adult. At that age parents usually don't get to decide such things anymore. I would have been very amused if mom or dad had tried to tell me what to do with my hair at that age. When you're 16, you feel oh so grown up already (even if you aren't), you feel you're a man now, not a boy anymore, and you want to be treated as a man. Your parents refusing to let you have any control of your own (even over simple things like your own hair) and daddy regularly punching you in the face or whipping your ass with his belt as punishment for whatever sins you committed probably does a number on you at that age.

The thing about the hair is a good point, it does seem pretty infantilizing to tell a 16 year old how to look. I mean a lot of parents complain about their kids' clothing and style choices, but to make such a big issue out of it as to actually kick the child out of the house is insane (especially considering that his hair actually wasn't even very long at all according to Axl, just slightly over his ears or something). Shows that they wanted him to completely conform and obey to their rules and ideas.

Also was reminded of this quote by Izzy:

“For [Axl] the money wasn't as big a deal. But he had this power thing where he wanted complete control. And you can say, well, it goes back to your fucked up childhood where his dad used to smack him around, you know, and he had no control, so now he’s getting it back. But it’s like, it’s still cooky, you know? You don't have to have everybody signing stuff.” 

I mean yeah, that's only Dr. Izzy's very scientific opinion on Axl's issues, but who knows, he might have a point. Maybe a lot of these issues really do come from Axl being completely at the mercy of stepfather/parents and not getting do decide over anything in his life.

 

 

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17 hours ago, Frey said:

Honestly, I'm probably biased because I can relate to Duff much more on a personal level than I can to Axl. But Duff comes across to me as someone who is level-headed, rational and makes wise decisons. Which is something I admire and none of which can be said for Axl. Obviously it's also impressive that Duff actually went back to school, has a degree, a wealth management company, great taste in books, somehow manages to have a loving family despite his rock star occupation, is thrifty and makes clever financial investments,... he just seems like a really balanced and well-rounded person in all areas of his life, who makes a lot of intelligent choices. The complete opposite of Axl basically.

And I'm also not really seeing Axl's intelligence in some of the areas claimed here in this thread. Some people mentioned linguistic and verbal intelligence, but I'm really not convinced. Axl might be a little above average in that regard compared to some random Joe on the street, but just look at the way he writes. It's usually a ranting, rambling, barely coherent mess and a grammatical nightmare. I get the impression some people are fooled into thinking he must be really clever by his endless run-on sentences and the big words he likes to use or something.

So again Duff wins in that department. Duff's writing is way better than Axl's and actually very enjoyable to read. It's insightful, engaging, witty, easy to follow (because he actually adheres to standards of proper writing and spelling) and every bit as articulate and eloquent as Axl's, if not more so. And judging by the few examples I've seen of Slash's writing, even Slash is better at it than Axl.

And yeah, Axl likes to talk, but the things that come out of his mouth have never struck me as any more intelligent/clever/insightful/articulate/eloquent etc. than the things Duff or Slash say (at least not since they got sober). Izzy can be quite clever too if he wants to. So with the exception of Steven (who really is just not the sharpest tool in the shed), I really don't see how Axl is any smarter than his band mates in that area either.

In the old interviews Axl definitely seemed to be the most intelligent of all. He wasn't intellectual (most rock musicians aren't anyway), but he expressed himself with ease and had interesting things to say about the songs, music in general and his life. Slash and Duff seemed less articulate, even shallow-minded (especially in the early interviews), probably because they were drunk most of the time. Axl has had lack of common sense, which is not unusual for an artist. He's the artistic type and doesn't have a business mind at all, although he tried to replicate the Mick Jagger model of a successful artist and businessman. This is one of the reasons he has been taken advantage of and people like Doug Goldstein became so important. Slash, on the other hand, and of course Duff, have been better and smarter at this. Slash, for example, was very active in the band's business, despite his drug problem.

The thing is that Slash and Duff, apart from getting sober, moved on with their lives personally and professionally, worked with many other musicians, Duff went to college, etc; they matured and evolved. Axl stack at the same place and had an emotional downfall, struggling to revive the band and do something worthy of its name, and being bitter about the past. Although we don't know everything about his social life and even if he hadn't been exactly a recluse, he doesn't seem to have interacted much with other musicians and artists, apart from the band and Baz; and most of his entourage consists of people who are not the type to have an intelligent conversation with. In general, the environment he has lived in all these years is not exactly inspiring. Moreover, situations like depression have a negative effect on a person's intellect.

We don't have samples of Axl's writing in the past (except for some short letters to Erin, I think) to compare to his later writings, but I think that there has been a change in the way he talks. I have the impression that in the few interviews he did during the last ten years his speech was less coherent. For example, the way he connected sentences and meanings or his bringing up stories out of the blue. It seems like he had some difficulty to communicate his thoughts and feelings, which is something he didn't have in the past. Maybe something similar happened with his writing. In the China Exchange interview though, and the one he did with AC/DC he was more laid back and sharp in his answers (although in the end of C.E. he told a short story out of nowhere :) ).

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Same thing with his musical abilities. Doesn't really seem any more gifted there then Izzy, Slash or Duff to me.

Axl's musical horizon is broader and he can cross genres. A problem is that while he has original and brilliant ideas, he sometimes either doesn't complete them (because he doesn't have someone else to inspire/help him) or he overdoes it with them. As for the lyrics, it depends who he's compared to. He's not a poet like Leonard Cohen or Jim Morrison or Bob Dylan, he's not John Lennon or Roger Waters or Morrissey. Axl's main strength is authenticity and honesty. He makes lyrics directly out of what he sees and what he feels, something that is not as common and easy as it seems; it's a blues or punk quality. Of course all his lyrics are not of the same level and with the exception of Civil War (which is a good song) and some CD songs he hasn't written about other subjects than his own experiences. His best lyrics are those where he expressed his anger and frustration, while self-pitying is a bad muse. It's surprising that he hasn't written a song about his bad childhood memories although he has talked a lot about it.

Izzy has written some good lyrics, but no way he's equal or better than Axl overall imo.

11 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Then there was the time he refused to have any legal representation when he got into trouble for the millionth time in Indiana. He decided to represent himself :lol: he got chucked behind bars, but I love that too. 

Axl had said in early interviews that if he had not left school to be a musician, he would like to be a lawyer :unsure:

EDIT: I just saw that @Lumikki mentioned it already.

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16 minutes ago, Lumikki said:

Someone? It's our beloved friend Sasha being all over Axl :P

@Lanna Thank god for the guy's knee in the picture or I would be seeing even more of Sasha's naked ass than I'm already seeing. Why does she need to climb all over Axl in public with her ass and everything hanging out like that :rolleyes::lol::facepalm:

This is why Axl doesn't marry her :rolleyes:

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7 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Well, if he has to have some sort of weird belief, then there are tons worse than Buddhism. 

I was kidding.... I forgot the smiley :ph34r:

I didn't mean to disrespect the religion or whatever Buddhism is... actually I like some stuff from it. But it called my attention this guy was there "blessing" the band members.

Sounds like something we've heard before, though before it was creepy and unhealthy :confused:

Makes sense with the whole "Chinese Democracy" thing. I'd really like to know if Axl has converted to Buddhism and if this is the reason for his change :)

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10 minutes ago, killuridols said:

I was kidding.... I forgot the smiley :ph34r:

I didn't mean to disrespect the religion or whatever Buddhism is... actually I like some stuff from it. But it called my attention that guy was there "blessing" the band members.

Sounds like something we've heard before, though before it was creepier and unhealthier :confused:

Makes sense with the whole "Chinese Democracy" thing. I'd really like to know if Axl has converted to Buddhism and if this is the reason for this change :)

It would actually make quite a bit of sense if that's what he's done. I honestly dont really know that much about it myself, I have a couple of friends who moved here from Asia and they are Buddhist, they're honestly the two nicest people I know.

From what I can tell they believe in karma a lot, so maybe Axl does have a My Name Is Earl Karma list after all :lol:

It certainly beats hearing about vibe sniffers and the like, or worse...Scientology :wow:

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4 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

It would actually make quite a bit of sense if that's what he's done. I honestly dont really know that much about it myself, I have a couple of friends who moved here from Asia and they are Buddhist, they're honestly the two nicest people I know.

From what I can tell they believe in karma a lot, so maybe Axl does have a My Name Is Earl Karma list after all :lol:

It certainly beats hearing about vibe sniffers and the like, or worse...Scientology :wow:

lol yeah, it's a big advance and change from the Yoda era, past lives and Erin killing his children :scared:

I hope all that shit is gone, really, and if Buddhism is the new thing for him I prefer this than all the other shit.

Been told is quite good, a nice philosophy of life and lots of artists are into it.

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