MillionsOfSpiders Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 My opinion on CD - wishy washy. A big disappointment. I took a day off work to go and buy it as soon as I could and I spent a long time trying to like it, but I just can't. I generally love albums that you 'don't get' straight away too, but CD is just awful, imo. Apart from CD, Shacklers Revenge, Madagascar and Sorry I find the rest an unlistenable mess with meaningless lyrics, terrible vocals and obviously patched up from all over the place! I haven't listened to it for a few years and I have no intention of ever doing so again. I haven't listened to the Slash and Duff versions either, not interested. Cant believe Slash plays TIL, I never want to acknowledge it I like Oh My God, I still listen to that. It's not that I think fuck Axl he stole the GnR name and now thinks he is GnR. I would've looked past that if the music was there, but it isn't. That's just my opinion though The only slightly against the norm opinion I have concerning Guns is I prefer the Illusions to AFD and Lies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilacmess Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) I like CD a lot! I admit it's not perfect, but I appreciate that you can feel an actual person behind the songs. It's personal, emotional and seems sincere. Good songwriting as in beautiful melodies and lyrics imho. Edited January 25, 2017 by lilacmess 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 So after I made that post about CD I went to the show thread and don't normally watch periscopes at all but decided to have a glimpse. Caught the last half of Chinese Democracy and did it sound awesome with Duff on backing vocals and Slash omg!! Maybe I will listen to the CD songs with those two on after all (not TIL though) Anyone who watched the show today, has Slash always played Chinese Democracy like that? With the soloing bit at the end too?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgnr Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: So after I made that post about CD I went to the show thread and don't normally watch periscopes at all but decided to have a glimpse. Caught the last half of Chinese Democracy and did it sound awesome with Duff on backing vocals and Slash omg!! Maybe I will listen to the CD songs with those two on after all (not TIL though) Yeah, chinese hater here, so imo the less CD songs they play, the better (no pun intended) But CD the song has to stay, it sounds killer, Axl's voice is always on point, Duff's backing vocals are great and Slash, well, Slash is Slash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, dgnr said: Yeah, chinese hater here, so imo the less CD songs they play, the better (no pun intended) But CD the song has to stay, it sounds killer, Axl's voice is always on point, Duff's backing vocals are great and Slash, well, Slash is Slash I really like how different it sounds played live now compared to how I remember it from 2010 and 2012 which was utterly soulless apart from Axl. I love the new version of it, it sounds a completely different song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifalucis Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 3 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: My opinion on CD - wishy washy. A big disappointment. I took a day off work to go and buy it as soon as I could and I spent a long time trying to like it, but I just can't. I generally love albums that you 'don't get' straight away too, but CD is just awful, imo. Apart from CD, Shacklers Revenge, Madagascar and Sorry I find the rest an unlistenable mess with meaningless lyrics, terrible vocals and obviously patched up from all over the place! I haven't listened to it for a few years and I have no intention of ever doing so again. I haven't listened to the Slash and Duff versions either, not interested. Cant believe Slash plays TIL, I never want to acknowledge it I like Oh My God, I still listen to that. It's not that I think fuck Axl he stole the GnR name and now thinks he is GnR. I would've looked past that if the music was there, but it isn't. That's just my opinion though The only slightly against the norm opinion I have concerning Guns is I prefer the Illusions to AFD and Lies. Yes. Come to think again, I remember once upon a time before reunion, I tried to listen to CD album so I found it from internet and tried to listen to the album starting from the first track. I was like, "this isn't GN'R song" and that's how my adventure with CD ended, very quickly . And I never even bother to try to listen to the songs from that album again until this tour. I like Better and Sorry. CD somehow still meh to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlondeIllusion Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 14 hours ago, BlueJean Baby said: Be careful... don't want the men bitching in the Tommy thread to start over here.... I like it because I can relate to the lyrics... yes it sounds totally different than the old GNR, so I can understand why some people just aren't into it. While I do like the original lineup best, I still consider it GNR because of Axl. Just my viewpoint, and I do understand why others feel differently. I agree. It's still a GNR album even if CD is more of Axl than GNR. But it's still GNR to me. Sure, it might've taken forever to come out, but he was perfecting it -- I think it was a great album and his voice sounded (and still sounds!) amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 So much CD hate here. I don't think it's a perfect album or anything, but I like a lot of songs on it. Madagascar and Prostitute are beautiful, SoD sounds like something that could have been on UYI 2 and I like it a lot as well. Sorry and Better are fun. Shackler's Revenge and TWAT are nice enough. The only ones I can't stand are TIL (instrumental verison is beautiful though), CD (sucks in every way), CITR (boring), Scraped (shit) and ITW (boring as well). And it pisses me off to no end that they're playing 3 of the (in my eyes) worst songs of that album. Not even Slash and Duff can save TIL, CITR and CD as far as I'm concerned. Why can't they play SoD or Madagascar or somethinh instead? I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketqueen76 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Frey said: So much CD hate here. I don't think it's a perfect album or anything, but I like a lot of songs on it. Madagascar and Prostitute are beautiful, SoD sounds like something that could have been on UYI 2 and I like it a lot as well. Sorry and Better are fun. Shackler's Revenge and TWAT are nice enough. The only ones I can't stand are TIL (instrumental verison is beautiful though), CD (sucks in every way), CITR (boring), Scraped (shit) and ITW (boring as well). And it pisses me off to no end that they're playing 3 of the (in my eyes) worst songs of that album. Not even Slash and Duff can save TIL, CITR and CD as far as I'm concerned. Why can't they play SoD or Madagascar or somethinh instead? I don't get it. Madagascar would be epic live...the studio version makes me weepy every time...I think it's the "I have a Dream" speech part that gets me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesecake Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Frey said: So much CD hate here. I don't think it's a perfect album or anything, but I like a lot of songs on it. Madagascar and Prostitute are beautiful, SoD sounds like something that could have been on UYI 2 and I like it a lot as well. Sorry and Better are fun. Shackler's Revenge and TWAT are nice enough. The only ones I can't stand are TIL (instrumental verison is beautiful though), CD (sucks in every way), CITR (boring), Scraped (shit) and ITW (boring as well). And it pisses me off to no end that they're playing 3 of the (in my eyes) worst songs of that album. Not even Slash and Duff can save TIL, CITR and CD as far as I'm concerned. Why can't they play SoD or Madagascar or somethinh instead? I don't get it. Maddy IMO, if we go by the album version, is straight up full of rasp. I'm having a hard time trying to imagine him pulling it off perfectly these days using cleaner voice on it. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy14 Posted January 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2017 Axl took the shirts to another level 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Just now, Andy14 said: Axl took the shirts to another level Omg I love that!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketqueen76 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Andy14 said: Axl took the shirts to another level Kitty tacos anyone... And such a cute Slaxl moment. Edited January 25, 2017 by Rocketqueen76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiraMPD Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Frey said: So much CD hate here. I don't think it's a perfect album or anything, but I like a lot of songs on it. Madagascar and Prostitute are beautiful, SoD sounds like something that could have been on UYI 2 and I like it a lot as well. Sorry and Better are fun. Shackler's Revenge and TWAT are nice enough. The only ones I can't stand are TIL (instrumental verison is beautiful though), CD (sucks in every way), CITR (boring), Scraped (shit) and ITW (boring as well). And it pisses me off to no end that they're playing 3 of the (in my eyes) worst songs of that album. Not even Slash and Duff can save TIL, CITR and CD as far as I'm concerned. Why can't they play SoD or Madagascar or somethinh instead? I don't get it. I second SoD. I've loved that song ever since I heard the bootlegs/leaks and it would be interesting to hear Slash's version of the solo. Wouldn't Madagascar be a little awkward to play considering the current line-up? I always thought that the lyrics were about people leaving the band... Then again they played Sorry in the last couple of shows so... W.r.t guitar parts, TWAT and SR are my favorites on CD. However I would like to see the current line-up attempt them just for lolz. The album version has an insane amount of layering. PS: I feel the same way about CITR as I do about SCOM, the outro saves it for me. I'll listen through the 3/4 of the song just for the awesomeness the lies beyond 4:12. Edited January 25, 2017 by KiraMPD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgnr Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 25 minutes ago, Andy14 said: Axl took the shirts to another level hahaha this shirt is too good! His favorite things in the world - cats and tacos and Slash 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgnr Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Oh and speaking of last show's outfits: here you have Melissa trying her luck on this year's Victoria's Secret fashion show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fansince88 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 21 minutes ago, dgnr said: Oh and speaking of last show's outfits: here you have Melissa trying her luck on this year's Victoria's Secret fashion show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 So Slash is turning into a raver and Melissa is turning into a crow? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fansince88 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 This was on their trainer's Instagram. I can't even imagine what it's like to be that close in the backstage area. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 25 minutes ago, Fansince88 said: This was on their trainer's Instagram. I can't even imagine what it's like to be that close in the backstage area. I always wonder how they walk around in the dark like that. Knowing me I'd run out on stage and fall flat on my face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Frey Posted January 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2017 Gotta admit, Axl's shirt is pretty amazing 1 hour ago, KiraMPD said: I second SoD. I've loved that song ever since I heard the bootlegs/leaks and it would be interesting to hear Slash's version of the solo. Wouldn't Madagascar be a little awkward to play considering the current line-up? I always thought that the lyrics were about people leaving the band... Then again they played Sorry in the last couple of shows so... W.r.t guitar parts, TWAT and SR are my favorites on CD. However I would like to see the current line-up attempt them just for lolz. The album version has an insane amount of layering. We had some great discussion about the meanings of the Madagascar lyrics (as well as SoD and others) some time ago in this thread, if you're interested lol. I'm all for them attempting other CD songs for the lolz. And while they're at it, they should also play VR and Snakepit songs for the lolz. I'd be very entertained by that. 20 hours ago, Lumikki said: You know, I think the house thing might have been in part at least an attempt by Axl to have some control over Slash and his drug use. To "look after Slash",as he puts it, in the most effective manner he could think of. But yeah, Slash wasn't having it. No, no, no, it was because the houses Axl liked were "too elegant" for Slash's taste, don't you remember? 20 hours ago, Lumikki said: You know these points are very true and I've had similar thoughts ever since I saw that disturbing documentary. On the other hand, Zutaut does seem to have a "fondness" for telling shocking/scandalous stories, as we've noted before in this thread so I don't completely trust him as a source. The only other thing I can think of that supports his claims is Beta saying Axl was sexually abused by his stepfather in one of these weird interviews she gave in the early 2000s. But these interviews are a highly questionable source as well, horrible translations and some people even doubt they're real. And while you'd think Beta (of all people) would know something like this, she does come across as kind of confused and struggling with language barriers a lot of the time in her posts and messages, so who knows. Assuming Zutaut's claims are true, I can understand why Axl didn't go public with that particular part of his past though. Emotionally speaking, there's a difference (at least to me, if I try to put myself in Axl's place) between something that happened when you were a baby and that you don't even really have conscious memories of, compared to something that happened to you much more recently, and which you have tons of traumatic, relatively fresh and raw memories of. I'd have a lot of trouble talking about the latter too, while I could see myself talking about something that happened when I was a small child much more easily. It's interesting though that Axl apparently changed his mind about what he was going to tell Rolling Stone. Assuming Zutaut's claims are true again, it sounds like he wanted to go public with something more along the lines of Zutaut's story, but we got a different, slightly less horrifying version in the 1992 interview. Speaking from a male perspective, there's also the fact that no one's gonna think less of you if you were raped as a baby. No one would ever blame babies and small children, male or female. But if you're a guy, there comes a point where some assholes will start to judge you, make fun of you or think less of you for being molested/raped/whatever. And that kind of thing was even worse back then. And assuming what Zutaut says is true again, then we still don't know when and for how long this was supposedly going on (except that Axl wasn't a baby anymore). Axl could have been 6, 8, 10, 12 or even 14 or 15. His stepfather could have been abusing him his entire childhood for all we know - and Axl did say at one point that his stepfather molested his sister her entire life (or for 20 years or something like that). But the older he was at the time this was (still) going on, the more reluctant he'd probably be to speak about it, like most guys. I mean he already got a ton of undeserved backlash and negative feedback about the things he did end up saying, it was probably a good decision for him not to come forward with everything else or it would have been even worse for him. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 I still can't believe Axl wore the cat taco t shirt Im so tempted to get one. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian girl Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMS Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 44 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: I still can't believe Axl wore the cat taco t shirt Im so tempted to get one. You should buy it and wear for the London show You and Axl would look then like some crazy teenage BFFs wearing the same clothes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tori72 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 minute ago, KMS said: You should buy it and wear for the London show You and Axl would look then like some crazy teenage BFFs wearing the same clothes I love it, too. We so should make this the Women's Thread Tshirt and wear it wherever we go and se GnR! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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