Gibbo Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRmello77 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Found this from the same uploader as gibbo posted also 4K Estranged! Axl seems to be enjoying himself he is actually moving around a lot and sounds rather good than bad! amazing production amazing band can't wait to see them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmt Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 minute ago, GNRmello77 said: Found this from the same uploader as gibbo posted also 4K Estranged! Axl seems to be enjoying himself he is actually moving around a lot and sounds rather good than bad! amazing production amazing band can't wait to see them! Awesome quality and there best song IMO, but he sounds terrible on It, mainly the second part. Again, It's just my opinion. I know that the past Is the past but It would be nice to get one more performance like the following video, although not likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRmello77 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, ironmt said: Awesome quality and there best song IMO, but he sounds terrible on It, mainly the second part. Again, It's just my opinion. I know that the past Is the past but It would be nice to get one more performance like the following video, although not likely. Yeah if only that could happen right? I kinda got used to the way he sings Estranged over the years but god would we all love to hear it the way it once was 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, ironmt said: Awesome quality and there best song IMO, but he sounds terrible on It, mainly the second part. Again, It's just my opinion. I know that the past Is the past but It would be nice to get one more performance like the following video, although not likely. hes very capable. Or his voice coach is capable of getting him to sound good on anything...just takes some effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmt Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Just now, IncitingChaos said: hes very capable. Or his voice coach is capable of getting him to sound good on anything...just takes some effort Yeah, no doubt. I just wish that Estranged was the one song that he would devote that little extra effort to. We need Axl's AC/DC voice on his own material. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, ironmt said: Yeah, no doubt. I just wish that Estranged was the one song that he would devote that little extra effort to. We need Axl's AC/DC voice on his own material. He had 50 days to get it right between tour dates...my guess if we won't see Axl's GNR voice improve until he has to go back into the studio. I see no signs that is happening 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmt Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 minute ago, IncitingChaos said: He had 50 days to get it right between tour dates...my guess if we won't see Axl's GNR voice improve until he has to go back into the studio. I see no signs that is happening I agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dar97 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Is it me but did the whole American tour have a really crappy atmosphere and rubbish crowds? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmt Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Dar97 said: Is it me but did the whole American tour have a really crappy atmosphere and rubbish crowds? Yes, America has the lamest crowds In the world. Our crowds also like to leave early In order to be the first to get out of the parking lot. I never could quite figure out shelling out $500-1,000 for a concert only to end up leaving half way through the set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dar97 said: Is it me but did the whole American tour have a really crappy atmosphere and rubbish crowds? Yea but Axl kicked ass on that leg to insure the good reviews. I remember watching the periscope for Detroit (first show of the leg) and that moment to me when they hit the stage is still my favorite. Axl was back standing and in Guns, Slash right next to him, Duff's vocals on ISE, and that huge stage...just a beautiful thing and to do it in front of a sold out football stadium. This guy at 1:35 is all of us Im guilty of it now and so are many others but we've seen too many shows now so the novelty has been wearing off...nothing like the first time you watch these guys. But we watch every show now on periscope and expect something new, it's like going to a broadway play and expecting a different story for the same show. The Not in this Lifetime tour simply has a script it follows and they've done well. It's still great to check out a show in person, I wish prices were better but it is what it is. Edited May 30, 2017 by IncitingChaos 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1989 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 6 hours ago, IncitingChaos said: hes very capable. Or his voice coach is capable of getting him to sound good on anything...just takes some effort For me I think he is more than capable of singing whatever he wants. It looks like he is using his clean voice on purpose to to sound like that because thats the way he wants the songs to sound these days. Almost like re-branding the guns songs with this half 'New' Guns n Roses. Whereas when he is with ACDC or Singing their songs he reverts back to old classic Axl. Even on Highway to Hell the other week he was much better than most of the songs the other night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalbi Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Gotta admit that these AC/DC performances are another level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1gooner Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I see on Melisa's Instagram photo/message from Slane she says that she is part Irish. Anyone hear the connection? If I remember rightly in 92 (I was pissed), Axl said that Duff was Irish and he was half Irish himself. Was his connection ever verified or is it assumed that he has Scottish heritage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kearnsy Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, no1gooner said: I see on Melisa's Instagram photo/message from Slane she says that she is part Irish. Anyone hear the connection? If I remember rightly in 92 (I was pissed), Axl said that Duff was Irish and he was half Irish himself. Was his connection ever verified or is it assumed that he has Scottish heritage? Think Duffs Granny is Irish You enjoy the show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1gooner Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) Anyone been to the Iveagh Gardens? See the post on the top right with the Irish flag and GNR guitar pick. If you go, can you grab me one please? https://www.instagram.com/gunsnroses/?hl=en Edited May 30, 2017 by no1gooner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1gooner Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Kearnsy said: Think Duffs Granny is Irish You enjoy the show? Yeah from Cork. Quite a lot of his family were at the show. Yeah I had a blast, what a gig. I posted a bit of a review a page or so back. How did it go for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Mark1989 said: For me I think he is more than capable of singing whatever he wants. It looks like he is using his clean voice on purpose to to sound like that because thats the way he wants the songs to sound these days. Almost like re-branding the guns songs with this half 'New' Guns n Roses. Whereas when he is with ACDC or Singing their songs he reverts back to old classic Axl. Even on Highway to Hell the other week he was much better than most of the songs the other night. I think you're spot on. Simply a choice but it would be nice if he took the AC/DC route with Guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post money honey Posted May 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) Here's my Slane story (first posted on women's thread yesterday), hope you guys enjoy it. Photos at the end. Everyone in Ireland knows two things about rock concerts at Slane Castle: the road in is long and slow, and the road back out is interminable. By May 27th 2017, I wasn't bothered by the prospect of a long day; I had already waited 30 years. That's how long it had been since – as an awkward, uncertain twelve-year-old school girl who spent her weekdays in a convent school uniform and weekends watching music videos – I first saw Guns n' Roses explode onto the TV screen in my parents' kitchen in rural Ireland, in the video to 'Sweet child o' mine'. Fast-forward to the moment last Saturday when I stood at the edge of the stage in Slane, soaked to the skin from earlier in the day when we queued as early as possible in torrential rain to make sure of a spot at the front. After standing for nine and a half hours, I watched Axl, Duff and Slash stroll out in front of 80,000 people like it was no big deal. Tears welled in my eyes. I looked at my husband beside me in disbelief. It was really happening. Guns were back in Ireland. They weren't on a screen or a page; they were ten feet away from me. Stupid as it sounds, it blew me away that they were real people. When you read about a band or watch their videos, there's a tiny bit of your brain that suspects it might be all be fake. Maybe they're actors. Or maybe they're hamming it up. When the makers of the music you have listened to and related to for decades suddenly appear in front of you, it messes with your mind. They're flesh and blood. They're real. It was around 7:30 PM, still daylight, when they came on. We could see them in the flesh with no fancy lighting effects. Their skin has wrinkles and rolls. Their hair is a bit thinner than they would probably like. They stride rather than sprint around the stage. They are real people who somehow managed to come together when they were barely adults and create music that becomes more timeless with each passing year. And how clear that is from the crowd. Everyone around me knew all the words – and I mean not just to the hits, but the B-sides and lesser-known album tracks as well. People joyously shouted out song titles with the opening notes. Right from the irresistibly brattish nastiness of the opening song, 'It's so easy', the crowd was going wild. Axl came over to our side of the stage for parts of 'Estranged'. I looked up at him and listened to the lyrics I had heard so many times before. I wondered how someone can repeat such painful words so many years after a loss. Would he rather never sing the song again? Has he been able to distance himself emotionally from the subject matter? After all these years, is it just words? 'Welcome to the jungle' is a weird one. When it was released back in 1987, it did OK, but didn't set the world on fire. It's hard to understand now how anyone wouldn't be entranced, intoxicated by Slash's jagged, echoey, menacing opening riff. Since then, 'Jungle' has become Guns' calling card, a rallying cry for the disaffected and delusional. We went insane. Duff, Slash and Axl seemed to lap up our insanity. Axl said, 'Look at all you Irish motherfuckers'. We went even more insane. As we moved through the set, something became apparent to me. 'Chinese Democracy' songs are meant to be performed live. They are fantastic. 'There was a time', 'This I love' and 'Chinese Democracy' itself – all sounded markedly more rocking and energetic than the recorded versions. Since I came home, I'm listening to this album with new ears. About seven minutes in, security staff hauled out a man and a woman through the crowd to the ground in front of the barrier. Paramedics appeared in seconds and the woman was stretchered off, the man staggering along beside her. A bit later on, I heard mutterings from a huddle of security guards by the stage. They pushed through and a woman was escorted away. I have no idea why. The stern-faced head of security issued warnings a few times to individuals in the seething crowd. Although I was right up the front, clinging to the barrier, wedged in by people behind and beside me, I felt fine; I didn't feel any sense of danger. I was on Duff's side of the stage. He is one cool customer. He's a born rocker with punk flowing in his veins. He is completely in control, completely aware all the time on stage, making eye contact with the audience, keeping an eye on his band mates, his rumbling bass line note perfect. Axl introduced him as “your fellow Irishman” and he sang 'New Rose', a fabulously punky number that contrasted nicely with the rest of the set. His voice is pleasingly unpolished, “raw and fucked up” as he would say himself. His body is lean and muscly, a testament to his teetotal, healthy, active lifestyle, and his face is fabulously lined, each furrow hiding a story. Slash is the embodiment of music. When he plays, his body contorts and bends with the notes. His fingers writhe and slide. His hair moves with the breeze, his eyes blank behind sunglasses. He doesn't need to do anything but play. Slash is guitar; his place in rock music history is assured. At this gig, the gold circle at the front was divided into two side-by-side sections, with no option to move between them. This meant that I didn't see as much of Slash as I would have liked, although he did make forays to our side of the stage. It was a pity to be restricted like this; apparently it is not the case at other shows on this tour. Daylight faded and the band rocked on. A grand piano rose up out of the stage for Axl for 'November rain', then disappeared again. Axl's voice rings out like a tightly controlled instrument. It can scream as convincingly as it can lull. His phrasing is perfect, his articulation as crisp as ever. His inspired lyrics to 'Nightrain' ring out as clear as day. 'Rattlesnake suitcase' is an unforgettable phrase and he snaps it out with as much vengeance as he must have done as a twentysomething urchin in the clubs of 1980s Hollywood. Nobody panics when the band leaves the stage. It's the internet age, we all know they'll be back for four more songs or so. When they return, it's to treat us to 'The seeker', a song I've only heard once or twice. The crowd around me laps it up. Someone tells me later that people farther back started leaving before the encore to “beat the traffic”. We waited 25 years for Guns n' Roses to return to Ireland, and there were many years when it seemed an impossible prospect. Who comes to a gig like this to leave before every last note has rung out, every last breath heaved, every last drop of sweat shed? The sky is completely dark now and the realisation that the band is about to leave sets in. The first notes of 'Paradise city' twang through the air. The roar that rises up from the vast mass of bodies is unbelievable. If joy has a sound, this is it. When Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy and Steven created those lyrics and that music, they were writing about themselves back in LA in the early 80s, street rats living off their talent and their wits, scraping and scrounging to get through each day so they could fulfill their vision of how rock music should be. Here, thirty years later, on a vast stage beside a castle nestled in a valley in Ireland, they are twice triumphant, conquering the world for the second time, the embodiment of grit, graft, tenacity and pure, blazing talent. They fling guitar picks and drumsticks into the crowd and they are gone. My husband and I tread through the mud, trying to avoid crashing into other concertgoers, skidding on discarded rain ponchos, gazing around at the sea of rubbish and pools of rain that cover the huge hillside that is Slane Castle concert venue. It looks amazing, but it's a fucking ridiculous place for a rock concert. I get the feeling it's more for the musicians than the attendees – it must be cool to play here, when you get helicoptered in, slip off stage to a comfortable backstage room with sofas and warm drinks, and helicopter off again. I imagine rockers telling each other, “Yeah, we played Slane Castle. Natural amphitheatre. Green, rolling valley. Beautiful place.” It's a nightmare. The exits are narrow and the crowd moves with painful slowness. We walk for an hour to get to our car, and we were among the lucky ones; people in other car parks sit in their cars for hours before being able to exit. It's only worth it for Guns n' Roses, and I will only be back there when they are. Being home after the gig is strange. I feel different. I'm happier. Three people whom I have never met, whose music has played a huge role in my life, have become real to me. I have to say another stupid-sounding thing: life will never be the same again. Edited May 30, 2017 by money honey 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carburetta Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Beautiful review Money Honey, I was there too and loved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
money honey Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 22 hours ago, slash(dean) said: What a gig! As much as people are moaning about the setlist and stuff, I thought there was a great balance in it. When I heard Slash & Duff were coming back I was praying that CD would not be swept under the carpet (kind of like what Metallica did With St.Anger and that other album they did with Lou Reed). But to hear them play a few of the songs is great to see. I have to say though, and I might have just missed it while skipping through all of the pages on here - No mention of how amazing New Rose was?!? I always rated Frank from the 'CD tour' lineup and was delighted that they kept him on because Matt Sorum could never really pull off that Damned cover properly, and Adler probably wouldnt be able for it these days. Nice Balance between all of the albums in my opinion, and an absolutely cracking show! As for Slane as a venue - Any Irish music fan knows how iconic Slane concerts are, but also how much of a pain in the arse the place is to get to and from. This was my first time there and I had been well warned, but in fairness I expected a lot worse. Yeah I was sitting on a bus in the carpark for about 2hrs but Ive heard of people walking 4/5hrs to get home. Just praying that they do an arena tour with this lineup over the next few years because with the 3arena sounding so well Id say that would blow everyone away! +1 to everything you've said! I loved the CD songs too, I enjoyed them way more than the recorded versions. They are awesome live and it is beyond cool to have Slash and Duff playing them. The balance between all albums and covers, plus the tribute to Chris Cornell, was outstanding. 21 hours ago, Blake Sabbath said: Exactly, the same scenario for me for both London shows.. Fuck I'll be pissed if I can't be on Slash's side for at least 1 night Yeah I found this a bit of a disappointment. Don't get me wrong I love Duff. But I missed out on a lot of Slash's stuff, which I'm only catching up on now by watching other people's videos on here Fingers crossed there won't be the stupid barrier down the middle of GC in London. 20 hours ago, AFD5 said: Tbh that's a cracking set list there reall is something for everyone hits, cover versions, even an acoustic Patience. I'm glad you reminded me about the acoustic Patience - I wasn't expecting Patience and it was amazing. And Axl's whistling!! One of his underrated skills!! 15 hours ago, IncitingChaos said: Nice tribute! On a technical level I like Axl's voice here. When he's switching between the high notes and low notes Is when it sounds weird to people. The high notes aren't off by much though, when Axl is on those notes are rounded out with a hint of rasp that gets you closer to that classic Axl high vocals that he had in 06 and could pull off a clean sound...now the note is rounded out by sounding like he's run out of air. Not sure why that is but in a more humid environment like Houston he can hit it. Also with AC/DC he compensates this by going up an octave to put more on the note dissipating the weaker notes. I think he could have done the same here but might possibly feel during a tribute that it's not the best time to showcase yourself and instead try to respect the original sound...who knows. Beautiful song though, love Axl and Duff singing together. I really enjoyed your comments about technical aspects of Axl's singing, I'm not knowledgable on this aspect, it's making me appreciate his artistry even more. 14 hours ago, no1gooner said: What a fantastic show. I still can't believe the big three were back together and there in front of me. It could only have been better if all five were there. I've seen them every time they've been in Ireland and enjoyed every one. For me it would be hard to pick between 92 and Saturday night. 92 was hayday, Saturday night was longer. Almost 3 hours of non stop rock. I echo most of what has been said in terms of energy. They really brought their A game from start to finish. Everyone was on their game, including Frank. Richard is super talented and really compliments Slash perfectly and never tries to step into the limelight. Slane is a great venue. The big issue is getting in and more so out, but that's been covered already. Thought the sound was great, maybe a little off at the start, but soon put right. I am a big fan off all GNR material. I followed NuGNR and really liked Chinese. But is it just me that thinks they didn't work as well as they should live. Can't really put my finger on it, but the mix didn't seem 100% on most CD songs bar This I Love. Also a few times you couldn't hear Axl in the mix and then next line he was way too loud in the mix. Is it that they layer the CD songs with tracks and it's harder to get the mix right. I'm no sound expert so not sure. Just my recollection, but I think they worked better live before, in particular in 06. But Maybe it was that they did SOD and Madagascar back then. But from memory CD and Better also sounded better back then. Don't get me wrong I thought they were really good, but lacking something. Proabably just nitpicking. On a side note, maybe I'm wrong but I guess it's easier to mix the sound at an ACDC gig. A lot of the songs are similar, where as GNR have a varied range of song types. Great setlist. Long and something for everyone. I got to hear Estranged with Slash live at last. Coma was epic too. Loved Civil War and thought the acoustic Patience was great. TIL with Slash was great also. BHS was a real treat and suits them perfectly. Be a great one to add to the set. And of course the classics were all great too. Would have loved Catcher, but you can't have it all. Of course casual fans will complain about the songs they weren't familiar with. It's the same for most artists. Sure when an unfamiliar song is played the casual fans go quiet and like it or not it does take a bit from the atmosphere. Bigger stadiums will result in more casual fans, so more of an issue I guess. I can understand it, but didn't bother me though. Praying they will play an indoor gig here next year and I can get a ticket. Until then I hope you guys that will see them this Summer have a blast.If I win the lotto I will join you. Enjoy every minute, cause it flies by. Love your review, thanks for writing it. Your comment about 92 versus 2017 is so good to hear for me having just been to my first Guns gig!! I would so love an indoor gig here too. I was praying for 3Arena last year before the venue was announced. Even Croker would have been better for the attendee experience. Shane sucks as a venue in terms of access and waiting times for everything. On the plus side it's magic visually. 14 hours ago, MrSoftie said: Hate to admit it but it was pretty good live. Can't find it now but I really enjoyed your review of the gig. Where were you standing?? 14 hours ago, FallToPieces65 said: The seeker fucking rocked here! I had only heard Seeker once before Saturday. It's a crowd pleaser and a great, short 'n' sweet song. It was mind blowing how much the crowd loved it. Axl nailed it vocally. 13 hours ago, IncitingChaos said: Can we get a thread of Axl runs 4:52 in second video...he's moving at a solid 4-5 mph here haha my contribution Ha a thread of Axl runs, brilliant idea! How he can run and sing without getting out of breath I just don't know. I'm over a decade younger than him and I can't even run and talk!! 13 hours ago, OJones90 said: So here's my story for anyone interested! OH and to top it all off, GNR Airways was next to our plane @ Dublin Airportl! The stewardess was extremely excited when I was boarding and said it had been there for 4 hours already, she kept checking but no sign of them haha. Thanks for reading, good fucking night!! Awesome review, thank you! So glad you had a good time in little ol' Ireland! I'm still floating on a cloud after it. 10 hours ago, IncitingChaos said: hes very capable. Or his voice coach is capable of getting him to sound good on anything...just takes some effort Totally. I don't understand negative reviews of Axl's voice after Saturday, especially based on scopes/video clips only. Live he sounds fucking amazing. He is a consummate professional and clearly takes good care of his voice. 4 minutes ago, Carburetta said: Beautiful review Money Honey, I was there too and loved it. Out of likes, thanks so much. Where were you in the crowd?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikosgnr Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 On 5/28/2017 at 11:05 PM, IncitingChaos said: It kills live but I agree I think TWAT and Better need to take a seat. I hate the song on the album but Shacklers was a song that was awesome live, and SOD isn't bad live either if we have to have a CD song take those spots that would be my choice. CD Shacklers and SOD. But I can't believe You're Crazy has yet to make the set. I've been waiting to see Shackler's since the beginning of this tour.. Such a powerful song and pretty sure Slash will kill it. As for SoD, I will change it with Madagascar. Really missed that one too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSoftie Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 @money honey Not too far behind you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carburetta Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Same as you Money Honey, Golden Circle 1, towards the back. Cool shots Mr. Softie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose87 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Anyone else bummed that it's all done??! On a wierd come down today!! I need another summer GNR live fix!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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