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 Der große König (1942)

Nazi era historical war potboiler on the life of Frederick the Great. You know what you get with the ''Goebbels school of filmmaking'': cloying sentimentality; moral exemplars on sacrifice, duty and obedience; Kristina Söderbaumn as the exemplar of ideal Aryan womanhood; stilted acting delivering propagandist lines; unimaginative camera work. 

It is on youtube if you want to watch this stodge,

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14 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

Hands of Stone (2016) a biopic on the life, or a part of the life, of great Panamanian boxing legend Roberto Duran.

The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976 i think), Clint Eastwood movie, a classic, arguably the best American western he ever made.

I love that film. Grew up on it - had it taped on VHS. It is the most successful of his American westerns in that he achieves an aesthetic synthesis between the Leone trilogy and something more authentically American. If you could go back in time, I suspect the ''wild west'' would have resembled this film more than many others, I don't think he quite achieved this on for example Hang Em' High.

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20 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

I love that film. Grew up on it - had it taped on VHS. It is the most successful of his American westerns in that he achieves an aesthetic synthesis between the Leone trilogy and something more authentically American. If you could go back in time, I suspect the ''wild west'' would have resembled this film more than many others, I don't think he quite achieved this on for example Hang Em' High.

I see what you mean about Josey Wales in terms of the authenticity thing though it is highly stylised and has to be, there is an overall grim-ness to it, just in terms of the visual.  I'd be interested to know what film stock they used cuz it has a very specific look to it, jaundiced sort of colour and an ugly-ness to it.  There's a moral ambiguity to it too in terms of what is presented that gives you a feel of authenticity too.  Hang Em High didn't get, neither did Joe Kidd, its funny y'know for a man known for westerns he doesn't really have that many in his canon, there's the aforementioned, the Paella Trilogy, High Plains Drifter and Unforgiven and Pale Rider, have I missed any?  Thats really not a lot.  I guess The Beguiled is a western though the setting is a lot more limited.  Oh yeah, Two Mules for Sister Sara is another. 

I do love Josey Wales though.  its one of few movies in the Clint filmography that I haven't abused to shit so I can still go back to it all these years later and watch it without being bored to shit.  I tell you what you wanna see if you wanna see an authentic (as far as I'd be able to guesstimate such a thing, given my historical and cultural handicap) western check out The Culpepper Cattle Co, an immensely underrated western.

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19 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

I see what you mean about Josey Wales in terms of the authenticity thing though it is highly stylised and has to be, there is an overall grim-ness to it, just in terms of the visual.  I'd be interested to know what film stock they used cuz it has a very specific look to it, jaundiced sort of colour and an ugly-ness to it.  There's a moral ambiguity to it too in terms of what is presented that gives you a feel of authenticity too.  Hang Em High didn't get, neither did Joe Kidd, its funny y'know for a man known for westerns he doesn't really have that many in his canon, there's the aforementioned, the Paella Trilogy, High Plains Drifter and Unforgiven and Pale Rider, have I missed any?  Thats really not a lot.  I guess The Beguiled is a western though the setting is a lot more limited.  Oh yeah, Two Mules for Sister Sara is another. 

I do love Josey Wales though.  its one of few movies in the Clint filmography that I haven't abused to shit so I can still go back to it all these years later and watch it without being bored to shit.  I tell you what you wanna see if you wanna see an authentic (as far as I'd be able to guesstimate such a thing, given my historical and cultural handicap) western check out The Culpepper Cattle Co, an immensely underrated western.

I cannot imagine the west resembling John Wayne's wild west. Too wholesome and Apple pie; too clean-shaven and with 1950s values.

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24 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

I cannot imagine the west resembling John Wayne's wild west. Too wholesome and Apple pie; too clean-shaven and with 1950s values.

I don't think it was meant to be, to me they are like fables, highly moral and yes I suppose propaganda to a point but at the same time I don't think the intent was, necessarily, just self aggrandisement, there's something honourable about the paradigm that they sought to propel.

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Stoßtrupp 1917 (1934)

I'd like to know the story of this film as it is basically a grim bleak world war one film that came out during the, admittedly early part of, the National Socialist era. It is far too grim - I wouldn't say anti-war but pacifism is inherently present, that certain nihilism you get in a war film - for the Nazis who usually liked saccharine sentimentality, trite patriotism and camera techniques so bland they would embarrass the director of Neighbours. I wonder how it snuck by Goebbels and his quest to completely destroy German cinema?

It is decent. It does basically consist of one hour and thirty minutes of a gigantic war scene, with minimal characterization and no storyline whatsoever, but the war scenes stand up and are well directed, albeit they are a tad under-cranked. 

It isn't Paths of Glory or All Quite On the Western Front by any means but it is decently gritty and realistic, and certainly an oddity in the Nazi canon of (generally) cinematic atrocities. 

With English subtitles,

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On 10/31/2018 at 8:49 AM, Len Cnut said:

The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976 i think), Clint Eastwood movie, a classic, arguably the best American western he ever made.

Yeah '76. And I have to agree. I heard him say once that he regarded it just as high as Unforgiven, I would too. It's one of those films that has it all. Action, redemption, drama, funny but not the made up bullshit comedy type of funny, it looks great. To me it's his best self made western, I put it right up there with the Dollars trilogy. Maybe a step behind those but not by much.

In a way Unforgiven is it's sequel. I know it's not meant to be or anything but you can make a good case it is. Josey and the chick had kids, he changes his name and settles down raising hogs, she passes on at some point, he's moved past the gunslinger days but still has it in him. Doesn't say much but carries a big stick. Killed everything that walked or crawled. That's my little fantasy anyways :lol:

On topic: Hostiles. Thumbs up. I'm not big on "revisionist westerns" as they like to call them but liked this. Christian Bale is a great actor. Probably one of the best modern actors. Really good looking film too. Great western scenery.

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Die Rothschilds (1940)

Typical Goebbels garbage and extremely boring.

It is quite interesting to see how the Germans of this era perceived England and English society though (why are all these Englishmen speaking German incidentally haha?). This was made when Hitler still desired peace with Britain so it is not so vehemently Anglophobic as later Nazi stinkers such as Ohm Krüger and Mein Leben für Irland.

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Star Wars: The Clone Wars (movie)

Ashoka Tano caring for the Huttlet "Stinky" while kicking ass is hilarious! Not a bad Star Wars movie considering Lucas has called it an "after thought" to launch the show.

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A New Hope - Always awesome! First time watching it knowing for sure that Han shot first, lol.

The Empire Strikes Back - I understand I'm in the minority but its not my favorite OT film. The visuals and the atmosphere are too dark I think. I also watched TLJ recently and I didnt really notice before that Johnson lifted as much from ESB as Abrams took from 4 and 6 for TFA. IMO, ESB goes a long way in making sense of many story and character choices in TLJ.

 

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Die Büchse der Pandora (1929)

Pabst's masterpiece starring quintessential ''flapper'' Louise Brooks,

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The film (and Brook's performance) is one of those that only became appreciated later on. Most now regard Brooks the level of Dietrich and Garbo.

Der Golem, wie er in die Welt kam (1920)

Surreal even for (German) Expressionist standards. 

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