DieselDaisy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Stagecoach (1939) My Darling Clementine (1946) The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 7 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: Stagecoach (1939) My Darling Clementine (1946) The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) Three of the greatest westerns ever made. Three of the greatest pieces of American cinema of any stripe actually. Beautifully photographed, dramatically realised and acted on all levels. John Ford could be argued to be the greatest director that ever lived, though I myself would probably argue ol’ Essex Alf, he ain’t far behind though, they are interesting trans-atlantic counterpoints. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Len Cnut said: Three of the greatest westerns ever made. Three of the greatest pieces of American cinema of any stripe actually. Beautifully photographed, dramatically realised and acted on all levels. John Ford could be argued to be the greatest director that ever lived, though I myself would probably argue ol’ Essex Alf, he ain’t far behind though, they are interesting trans-atlantic counterpoints. Liberty Valance is a very different film by Ford, more character driven and less action orientated, deliberately set in black and white and lacking the big trademark panoramic (Monument Valley) vistas - it is a bit of a post-cowboy (or post-wild west) film truthfully. Sentimental. Wayne took a back seat. The critics felt it should have ended twenty minutes earlier. Stagecoach might be one of the most seismic films ever for Hollywood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Quote Liberty Valance is a very different film by Ford, more character driven and less action orientated, deliberately set in black and white and lacking the big trademark panoramic (Monument Valley) vistas - it is a bit of a post-cowboy (or post-wild west) film truthfully. Sentimental. Wayne took a back seat. The critics felt it should have ended twenty minutes earlier. Its a lot of things, its post-cowboy and like...almost mildly revisionist as westerns would go on to be but without losing the sentimentality and romance of the genre that I think is really key. Lee Marvin was fantastic as Liberty Valance. Lee Van Cleef is in there as one of his boys, as he is in High Noon too. Quote Stagecoach might be one of the most seismic films ever for Hollywood. Pretty solid examples of cross-cutting out there. Ford (and Hitchcock) are amazing in the way that they kinda rode through all these eras of cinema and grew with them, they were kinda there at the birth and still making credible work very late in the day, Hitch especially. I mean if you think about it from London Fog to fuckin' Frenzy, thats a lot of fuckin' water under the bridge and evolution of the medium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 When I first heard this story, which was years and years ago, when I was a teenager, the framing and photography of westerns suddenly made perfect sense. In fact all these years, to this day, when I watch John Ford westerns I'm always looking to see where the horizon is in his framing of shit. Every time, to this day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) Golden Age Westerns remind me of Kung Fu films, late '60s to early '80s, in that you've the same tropes, characters and actors, and set designs - and a limited amount of base storylines. Thus in the western you have the, base ''revenge'' plot line (Winchester '73), ''sheriff v gunslinger'' story (High Noon), the ''Indians v ordinary people/cavalry'' one (Stagecoach), ''ranchers v homesteaders/interlopers'' storyline (Johnny Guitar has an element of this), etc etc. I am not saying there isn't a great deal of flexibility within those storylines, and that they are not incapable of amalgamation. The Searchers seems to borrow elements from two or three. Kung Fu films also have their base plots, which can be summarized as, - ''you killed my teacher'' (Fist of Fury), evil teacher kills rival teacher, rival teacher having to be avenged by student - ''Innocent Ching rising up against evil rapist Ming'' anti-colonial story (36th Chamber). - Or sometimes just a base revenge plot, as in Way of the Dragon. All three, although not Bruce Lee's, often feature an avenger acquiring a distinct kung fu style along the way in order to unleash his vengeance. Thus Jackie, his teacher having been killed by evil Kung Fu master as with the first plot device, has to merge his old Snake Fist with the Cat's Paw in order to be capable of defeating evil Kung Fu Master's Eagle Claw (Snake and the Eagle's Shadow). More specifically, both have the same quasi-mythological historic material, same folk characters. So the western has Cochise and Geronimo and the Gunfight at the OK Corral, so Kung Fu has Shaolin, Wong Fei Hung. You see the same starring actors (Wayne, Cooper, Maureen O'Hara). The same character actors (Lee Van Cleef as a ''black hat''). The same sets as they were filmed on purpose built sets/ranches (e.g., the Shaw Brother's lot). The same exterior locations (Monument Valley). Edited December 30, 2019 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Watching The Town (2011) right now. I've never seen it but my wife loves it. It's decent so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Fort Apache (1948) She Wore A Yellow Ribbon (1949) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 On 12/30/2019 at 2:22 PM, RussTCB said: Watching The Town (2011) right now. I've never seen it but my wife loves it. It's decent so far. I liked the Town with Ben Affleck and Jeremy Renner. Jeremy plays a great bad guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Rio Grande (1950) The Horse Soldiers (1959) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) On 31/12/2019 at 3:53 AM, DieselDaisy said: Fort Apache (1948) She Wore A Yellow Ribbon (1949) Fort Apache is a belter! All time great! Henry Fonda, ‘i find you to be a recalcitrant swine!’ Gottdamn injuns.. Edited January 1, 2020 by Len Cnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Len Cnut said: Fort Apache is a belter! All time great! Henry Fonda, ‘i find you to be a recalcitrant swine!’ Gottdamn injuns.. I like Ford's stock character of the drunken comedic Irish sergeant played by Victor McLaglen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Ford v Ferrari- good one-time watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Candy Corn It was a horror movie on SHO. Not bad. Pretty gruesome killings. Not a bad plot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Le Man 66 (Ford vs Ferrari). Fucking loved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 The Irishman Loved it! Took a minute to adjust to old dudes trying to look young, but everythig else was top notch. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 I'm watching a documentary of Studio 54 right now what a whirlwind everything to do with that place was! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 13 hours ago, RussTCB said: I'm watching a documentary of Studio 54 right now what a whirlwind everything to do with that place was! Whats it like, fact based cultural commentary or salacious stories of sex drugs and disco? Cuz if its the latter I might give it a watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Len Cnut said: Whats it like, fact based cultural commentary or salacious stories of sex drugs and disco? Cuz if its the latter I might give it a watch! It was both! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 JoJo Rabbit. New Taika Waititi comedy about a nazi kid hiding a jewish girl in the Holocaust. Really great actually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jojo_Rabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Empire of Dreams, A Star Wars Doc on the OT. Ive actually watched it like 4 times in recent days. Im infirm and I keep entering "star wars doc" into YT and YT in its wisdom keeps playing the same one. Im to fucked off to get back up and change it. These algorithms need to die!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Beetlejuice I still enjoy watching this movie. Such a great movie and so funny too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlingrl03 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 5 hours ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said: Beetlejuice I still enjoy watching this movie. Such a great movie and so funny too. I just watched that on the plane a few months ago....it never gets old! Love that movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Wagon Master (1950) It is a perfect film by Ford, a hidden gem. He just made it for a low budget with his stock actors. The Big Trail (1930) It is a stunning film to look at, but crikey Wayne is wooden in it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle (2004) I didn't realize just how much i appreciated this film until i watched it again last night. Its been years since i watched it but i still knew all the quotes like i watched it last week. Netflix has the rated cut though more boobs in the unrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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