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1 hour ago, Len Cnut said:

The Buddy Holly Story (1978)

Love it. Busey was amazing, I know some people didn't like his singing in it but he sang everything live and I thought it added depth.

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31 minutes ago, lame ass security said:

Love it. Busey was amazing, I know some people didn't like his singing in it but he sang everything live and I thought it added depth.

Yeah, it was Busey before he was Busey so he kinda sinks into the role well.  I actually never watched it for years because I remember The Real Buddy Holly docu produced by Paul McCartney which was made as a reaction to this in regards to inaccuracies in it.  Stupid fuckin’ reason not to watch a movie but I guess I just took ‘inaccuracies’ to mean its a load of shit but its really not.  

Absolutely love Buddy Holly too, I think he was fantastic, That’ll Be The Day has to be like...top fuckin’ 5 best rock n roll songs ever, along with the original Long Tall Sally its almost impossible to tire of.  They were just so unique, Buddy I think was the first guy to play a Strat, or the first big guy, that clean ringing tone to it and those rolling drum sounds, so thin its almost like its being done on cardboard but with a kind of deep echo, its so weird to explain but The Crickets sound unlike any band before or since, they’re fuckin’ brilliant.  Thats all I really ask of a band, just fuckin’ do something different, be you, they were rock n roll but they were pure Texas too.

Buddys immortalised in those show shots as this speccy nerd but he was a bad motherfucker behind closed doors according to the stories.

And of course everyone else knows Peggy Sue etc but Rave On, shit, that song is pure fuckin’ rocker

 

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33 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

Yeah, it was Busey before he was Busey so he kinda sinks into the role well.  I actually never watched it for years because I remember The Real Buddy Holly docu produced by Paul McCartney which was made as a reaction to this in regards to inaccuracies in it.  Stupid fuckin’ reason not to watch a movie but I guess I just took ‘inaccuracies’ to mean its a load of shit but its really not.  

Absolutely love Buddy Holly too, I think he was fantastic, That’ll Be The Day has to be like...top fuckin’ 5 best rock n roll songs ever, along with the original Long Tall Sally its almost impossible to tire of.  They were just so unique, Buddy I think was the first guy to play a Strat, or the first big guy, that clean ringing tone to it and those rolling drum sounds, so thin its almost like its being done on cardboard but with a kind of deep echo, its so weird to explain but The Crickets sound unlike any band before or since, they’re fuckin’ brilliant.  Thats all I really ask of a band, just fuckin’ do something different, be you, they were rock n roll but they were pure Texas too.

Buddys immortalised in those show shots as this speccy nerd but he was a bad motherfucker behind closed doors according to the stories.

And of course everyone else knows Peggy Sue etc but Rave On, shit, that song is pure fuckin’ rocker

 

No doubt, he was ahead of his time not only as a musician but in production and studio engineering.  I think if he had lived he would've become a music executive tycoon.

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On 5/31/2020 at 9:30 AM, Oldest Goat said:

Training Day

5/5

 

 

22 hours ago, Len Cnut said:

The Buddy Holly Story (1978)

Training Day is one intense movie. The acting in the scene when they have the shotgun on him in the bathtub is worth watching the whole movie for.

I've actually never watched The Buddy Holly Story, which is odd. I love music history, I love his music and I love music biopics. On top of that, I've always heard good things about the movie. Maybe I need to finally break down and watch it. 

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Leaving Las Vegas (1995)

(Apparently Nicolas Cage wanted to be drunk throughout the entire shooting of the film but the director didn't allow it, so he ended up only being really drunk in one scene.)

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17 hours ago, EvanG said:

Leaving Las Vegas (1995)

(Apparently Nicolas Cage wanted to be drunk throughout the entire shooting of the film but the director didn't allow it, so he ended up only being really drunk in one scene.)

Great movie and performance made even more disturbing by what happened to the writer, John O'Brien. Yeah, a lot of actors have tried the "being drunk to play drunk" thing and it usually doesn't work. Robert Shaw tried the Indianapolis monologue in Jaws when he was sloshed and it was disastrous. He came back sober, apologized to Spielberg, and absolutely nailed it.

Edit: Do you know what scene Cage was really drunk in? Just curious. 

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9 hours ago, lame ass security said:

Great movie and performance made even more disturbing by what happened to the writer, John O'Brien. Yeah, a lot of actors have tried the "being drunk to play drunk" thing and it usually doesn't work. Robert Shaw tried the Indianapolis monologue when he was sloshed and it was disastrous. He came back sober, apologized to Spielberg, and absolutely nailed it.

Edit: Do you know what scene Cage was really drunk in? Just curious. 

It's the scene in the casino where he goes crazy and security comes to throw him out. He doesn't have many lines, and I imagine most is improvised, so I guess that is why Mike Figgis agreed that he could be drunk for that one.

What Cage had in mind was that he would wear an earpiece and someone would tell him his lines on the spot and he could repeat it, but I can see why Figgis wouldn't go for that.

Another trivia fact, I've seen this movie several times before but I never noticed that Julian Lennon plays a bartender in one of the scenes until I watched it last night!

 

 

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On 5/31/2020 at 3:59 PM, lame ass security said:

Love it. Busey was amazing, I know some people didn't like his singing in it but he sang everything live and I thought it added depth.

Didn't he win an oscar for this movie. It was so sad.

I did get to meet Gary at another Texas Frightmare. He was in Silver Bullet, what a cool movie it was. Gary is a very eccentric guy. His son Jake was there but had to leave early as his wife was having a baby. Anyway, it was the year he was on the Celebrity Apprentice. I thought he was pretty good on that show. I told him he had a lot of heart and should have won.

La Bamba was another good movie but also sad. Richie and Buddy were on the same plane.

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26 minutes ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

Didn't he win an oscar for this movie. It was so sad.

I did get to meet Gary at another Texas Frightmare. He was in Silver Bullet, what a cool movie it was. Gary is a very eccentric guy. His son Jake was there but had to leave early as his wife was having a baby. Anyway, it was the year he was on the Celebrity Apprentice. I thought he was pretty good on that show. I told him he had a lot of heart and should have won.

La Bamba was another good movie but also sad. Richie and Buddy were on the same plane.

Busey was a Best Actor nominee, Jon Voigt won it for his role in Coming Home. Yeah, Silver Bullet is awesome. Everett McGill was really good in his priest/werewolf role.

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Top Secret!(1984).  Directed by the Abrahams/Zucker guys, first movie after "Airplane" I think.  A young Val Kilmer.

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Madea's Family Funeral This movie gets funnier every time I watch it. Tyler Perry is a genius.

I'm hoping one day he will make another Madea movie, but if he doesn't this was an amazing way to end this character.

23 hours ago, lame ass security said:

Busey was a Best Actor nominee, Jon Voigt won it for his role in Coming Home. Yeah, Silver Bullet is awesome. Everett McGill was really good in his priest/werewolf role.

Really, he should have won. He played that part so well. Oh well.

Yeah, I love Silver Bullet. The werewolf looked super cool. Corey Haim was just a kid. It was sad when he passed away too. Too young.

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13 minutes ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

Madea's Family Funeral This movie gets funnier every time I watch it. Tyler Perry is a genius.

I'm hoping one day he will make another Madea movie, but if he doesn't this was an amazing way to end this character.

Really, he should have won. He played that part so well. Oh well.

Yeah, I love Silver Bullet. The werewolf looked super cool. Corey Haim was just a kid. It was sad when he passed away too. Too young.

I agree, that was Busey's masterpiece and he was a huge Buddy Holly fan to begin with so I'm sure that only enhanced his performance.  I really liked him in Silver Bullet too, playing the lovable drunk uncle, don't think that was much of a stretch for him.😄

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Yeah, I heard Busy was a drunk and a druggie. Anyway, hopefully he's better now. It sucks when you get older and don't get as many roles as you did when you were younger. If you're a good actor you should be still getting roles. Hopefully, he's happy being a grandpa now.

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23 hours ago, lame ass security said:

I agree, that was Busey's masterpiece and he was a huge Buddy Holly fan to begin with so I'm sure that only enhanced his performance.  I really liked him in Silver Bullet too, playing the lovable drunk uncle, don't think that was much of a stretch for him.😄

 

He’s a mad fucker :lol:  I don’t know America and I’ve never been but from across the pond as I see it if there is anything you have to be proud of (and you do) one of the biggest things has to be your proud history of beautiful eccentrics, I’m talking about people like Hunter Thompson, Kerouac, Burroughs, Hemmingway, Whitman etc...Gary may not be of that ilk but he certainly is a colour eccentric of our times, I think he’s a great guy, the world needs people like him as an antedote to the chronoc blandness of our pop culture.

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58 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

 

He’s a mad fucker :lol:  I don’t know America and I’ve never been but from across the pond as I see it if there is anything you have to be proud of (and you do) one of the biggest things has to be your proud history of beautiful eccentrics, I’m talking about people like Hunter Thompson, Kerouac, Burroughs, Hemmingway, Whitman etc...Gary may not be of that ilk but he certainly is a colour eccentric of our times, I think he’s a great guy, the world needs people like him as an antedote to the chronoc blandness of our pop culture.

That was hilarious.  Yeah, Busey is a national treasure in my book. He was always an eccentric guy but the head injury he sustained in that motorcycle accident took it to another level.😄

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Just know him from playing the baddie in '80s-'90s b-movie actioners, Van Damme and Seagal's oeuvre and such like. Bit of a character actor really - not that there is anything wrong with that as some of my favourite actors are character actors. 

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24 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

Just know him from playing the baddie in '80s-'90s b-movie actioners, Van Damme and Seagal's oeuvre and such like. Bit of a character actor really - not that there is anything wrong with that as some of my favourite actors are character actors. 

Yeah, I highly recommend The Buddy Holly Story. He was good in Point Break too.

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The Sons of Katie Elder (1965)

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'Soaked in Bleach'

5/5

Courtney Love is a psycho bitch and had Kurt Cobain killed.

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6 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:

'Soaked in Bleach'

5/5

Courtney Love is a psycho bitch and had Kurt Cobain killed.

I actually watched it not that long ago because I never had before. I don't really like those murder conspiracy documentaries because they're usually shit. Anyway, I wasn't convinced at all... a lot of the facts they come up with can be explained and it's very biased. If you know a little bit about Cobain you will know that the guy was very suicidal, especially the last months of his life. Of course that doesn't mean he couldn't have been killed anyway, but I'm not buying it.

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Thirteen (2003)

(I was waiting for it to get gritty but it never happens)

Seven (1995)

(still good)

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2 hours ago, EvanG said:

I actually watched it not that long ago because I never had before. I don't really like those murder conspiracy documentaries because they're usually shit. Anyway, I wasn't convinced at all... a lot of the facts they come up with can be explained and it's very biased. If you know a little bit about Cobain you will know that the guy was very suicidal, especially the last months of his life. Of course that doesn't mean he couldn't have been killed anyway, but I'm not buying it.

Why do you say he was very suicidal? In the documentary they say the only reason people assume that is because Courtney went on and on and on about how Kurt is suicidal and the media just went with that because of his moody lyrics. The incident in Rome was not a suicide attempt and that's backed up by the doctor who treated him in the hospital - yet Courtney went around saying it was claiming he'd swallowed 60 pills which isn't true. He references his chronic stomach pain in the very sketchy suicide note even though at that time his stomach issue had been resolved. There's tons of circumstantial evidence to the point that the head of the Seattle police force who is now retired admits they bungled it and he'd reopen it if it were still up to him.

Kurt had a prenuptial and he was in the process of divorcing her so she would've got fuckall.

Courtney's ex boyfriend was their nanny and he was in their house for days just prior to people finding the body and when they did he left the state.

The fact the cops arrived on the scene and without checking any leads or investigating or even bothering to develop photos of the scene declared it was suicide on the same day to the media. There's so many aspects that make me convinced. Even her own father said she killed him.

There was 3X a lethal dose(even for a heavy user) of black tar heroin in Kurt it would have been impossible for him to shoot up, pack up the gear(it was neatly packed up in its box next to his body) and then use the shotgun which by the way had no fingerprints and neither did the shells.

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1 hour ago, Oldest Goat said:

Why do you say he was very suicidal? In the documentary they say the only reason people assume that is because Courtney went on and on and on about how Kurt is suicidal and the media just went with that because of his moody lyrics. The incident in Rome was not a suicide attempt and that's backed up by the doctor who treated him in the hospital - yet Courtney went around saying it was claiming he'd swallowed 60 pills which isn't true. He references his chronic stomach pain in the very sketchy suicide note even though at that time his stomach issue had been resolved. There's tons of circumstantial evidence to the point that the head of the Seattle police force who is now retired admits they bungled it and he'd reopen it if it were still up to him.

You can read any biography, I would suggest Heavier Than Heaven because it's probably the most thorough, to know that he talked about killing himself all the time since he was a teenager. Even as a teen he told a friend once that he was going to be a rich rockstar and then kill himself. Doesn't mean he actually did it, but it's kinda spooky, I would say. Or read his interviews or journals, he mentions suicide all the time. That he had an unhealthy obsession with suicide is a fact, doesn't mean he was suicidal at the time of his death, but that he wasn't a depressed guy, which I believe the documentary is trying to claim, is obviously wrong. I think I watched it last year, so I don't remember every detail, just that a lot can be explained. His addiction had totally spun out of control in the last months of his life. Even his junkie friends kicked him out of the house in the last weeks before his death, because they got scared of how much he was injecting each time and they didn't want him to die at their place and have the cops come over. That he hadn't died of an OD already is remarkable. 

We don't know if his stomach problems were over, or if they had come back. Kurt contradicted himself and lied more than anyone else. Just because he said he was feeling better, doesn't mean he was. In one interview he talked about being clean and later that night he OD'd. 

As for Courtney killing him, obviously she's a psycho, I won't disagree with that, but how many times did she save him? You know how often Kurt OD'd in front of her and it was up to her to save him? It just doesn't add up that she saves the guy's life more than once, just to hire someone to kill him a little while later. Or what about Courtney calling the cops when Kurt locked himself in the bathroom with a gun threatening to kill himself just weeks before his death?

Regarding the drugs in his system, I have heard other experts say that someone with the tolerance that Kurt had, he could have easily been able to still use a rifle after injecting himself with the amount of drugs he had in his system. I don't know, I'm no expert. Nor am I an expert on injecting heroin, but I imagine it is possible to inject heroin and have a few seconds to put a rifle into your mouth before passing out?

Cali, the nanny, was also a junkie, like most of the people in this story. He was in the house with his girlfriend who was probably one of the last people to see Kurt alive, but then Kurt left again and when he came back the two of them were gone, although the timeline is basically anyone's guess. No one knows exactly where Kurt was in those last days except for walking around Seattle and getting fucked up.

To me it's kinda odd that most of the people who think he was murdered are the ones who didn't know him, never even met him. Yet most of the people who were close to him and around him the last months of his life, and knew in what state he was in, never doubted for a second that he didn't kill himself. I rather believe them.

But at the end of the day I wasn't there. That the police did a terrible job is a fact too but that doesn't mean he was murdered. Personally, I hope he did kill himself, because if he was murdered it makes it even more tragic in a way and it's already such a tragic story.

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