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Yeah thanks mate @Frey

Just read about 'The Cone Lady' Hah! That's cute.

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14 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:


What about the Yoda stuff and the black magic wars between Axl and Niven? Any insights into all that? Like do we know more specifics about what Axl believes/used to believe or is it just general mysticism as far as we know?

I believe the black magic/niven thing was about Izzy, not Axl. I remember in the first women's thread somebody posted a excerpt from a book where it said Niven and Izzy went down to New Orleans to practice black magic. That's how the witches/coven joke got started in the Izzy thread.

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It was Izzy who got Niven into black magic and then Niven started putting curses on Axl :lol:

There's no evidence that Izzy put any hexes onto Axl, just that he got Niven into it.

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Didn't Niven or someone say he and Axl would wear black hooded robes and do curses/hexes at each other?

I'm really surprised if Izzy ever did anything like that tbh.

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Wasn't it Mick Wall's new book that said it? Consider the source. :P I'll go and see if I can find the excerpts for you @Oldest Goat

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Here you go:

 

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Just now, Kris_1989 said:

Wasn't it Mick Wall's new book that said it? Consider the source. :P I'll go and see if I can find the excerpts for you @Oldest Goat

Thanks, you don't have to trouble yourself though, I'm slowly making my way through the index and I'll see if that stuff is in there.

There's some interesting stuff here, about to read what Axl's Grandma and teachers have to say about him.

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Just now, Oldest Goat said:

Thanks, you don't have to trouble yourself though, I'm slowly making my way through the index and I'll see if that stuff is in there.

There's some interesting stuff here, about to read what Axl's Grandma and teachers have to say about him.

No worries, It was easy to find actually. :) I put the link in my other post.

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11 minutes ago, Kris_1989 said:

No worries, It was easy to find actually. :) I put the link in my other post.

Thanks, I was mis-remembering a bit. Find it much easier to assume Axl being into that stuff than Izzy.

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55 minutes ago, killuridols said:

I really don't understand why you and others are insisting on pulling this ridiculous theory out of your asses that he "obeys elder women and mom types", and all you've shown is two cases that do not even apply and are mixed up with other things that have nothing to do with anything.

It's not a theory, it's just an observation. And there are quite a few of these stories, like the one Lumikki mentioned about Mr. Teng (or whatever her name is) or the one I just asked about.

 

38 minutes ago, killuridols said:

Regarding the black magic and Niven, there was a book that talked about it. I am sure it was posted in the old Women's Thread or maybe this one, not sure.

You'd have to check the Index in the first page of this thread. @Frey has been working on that but I don't know if he has indexed any of those topics yet.

32 minutes ago, Tori72 said:

Wow, that's is so great, @Frey. Just found out. Thank's so much for all that work!!! :takethat::headbang::hug: :thumbsup:

15 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:

Thanks, you don't have to trouble yourself though, I'm slowly making my way through the index and I'll see if that stuff is in there.

There's some interesting stuff here, about to read what Axl's Grandma and teachers have to say about him.

I don't think I have indexed anything relating to Izzy's and Niven's little black magic adventures yet.

This index is a complete mess as of now. Just random bits and pieces and no real structure or system to it yet either.

 

19 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:

Didn't Niven or someone say he and Axl would wear black hooded robes and do curses/hexes at each other?

I'm really surprised if Izzy ever did anything like that tbh.

Doug Goldstein and Alan Niven himself (I think) have talked about Niven and Izzy travelling to New Orleans together for "black magic" reasons. Not sure what that's supposed to mean, but it's part of the reason apparently for Niven being so paranoid now about anything he considers "satanic". Like AC/DC :lol:

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Frey said:

It's not a theory, it's just an observation. And there are quite a few of these stories, like the one Lumikki mentioned about Mr. Teng (or whatever her name is) or the one I just asked about.

It's not indicative of anything, really..... Why would he be rude to the mother of that guy? :shrugs:

I have not heard about the one you mentioned either.

There's no correlation between age, gender and your 'theories'. It's mere coincidence.

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14 minutes ago, killuridols said:

It's not indicative of anything, really..... Why would he be rude to the mother of that guy? :shrugs:

I have not heard about the one you mentioned either.

There's no correlation between age, gender and your 'theories'. It's mere coincidence.

I just said it's not a theory and you're taking this way too seriously. And I don't really care enough about this to argue about it, so please, kindly get off my ass about it, Miss Idols :lol:

Also, it frustrates me that I can't fucking rememeber where I read the story I described earlier. It was a really nice story, for a change lol.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Frey said:

I just said it's not a theory and you're taking this way too seriously. And I don't really care enough about this to argue about it, so please, kindly get off my ass about it, Miss Idols :lol:

Also, it frustrates me that I can't fucking rememeber where I read the story I described earlier. It was a really nice story, for a change lol.

:bitchfight:

I dont get off asses because I'm the ass eater, don't ya know???

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6 hours ago, Frey said:

I also have a question/story that fits with both the "Axl being respectful to his elders" as well as the "mystery years" topic:

I don't know if it was in this thread or somewhere else, but I distinctly remember reading a story about Axl going to a restaurant (I think?? Not sure anymore though) and some guy or woman there (maybe the owners of the restaurant) had an old, disabled father (might have been a war vet?), who wanted to talk to Axl or somehow endend up talking to him? And Axl spent a lot of time talking to the old man and was really kind to him. I think the guy's son/daughter was very impressed or moved by Axl because of that.

Does anyone here know what the hell I'm talking about? :lol:

I remember it, yes. It was under that story with the girl on the tour bus in 2012, here:

http://www.radiometal.com/article/behind-the-scenes-the-other-axl-rose,78375

The media has always misrepresented Axl Rose. When Guns n Roses came to Austin, TX Axl stopped in at the salon my mom owned the day of the concert and he was the kindest man. I was so star struck I had trouble even talking but my dad who was there to have lunch with my mom talked to him for quite a while. I will never forget as Axl was getting ready to leave my dad said « have a great concert son » and Axl had the biggest smile and said « I will, thank you ».

Sadly my 71 year old father who was 100% disabled was beaten to death, murdered one year ago by a man nearly half his age and over twice his size. I will forever love Axl Rose for the way he treated my dad while at the salon. I haven’t slept more than two hours a night since it happened and all I do is YouTube Guns n Roses and watch and listen to their music. I love any music Axl puts out but I especially love the earlier years bc after Axl left the salon I gave my dad one of their CD’s and he LOVED it!! I had to go out and buy another, small price to pay to make my dad so happy. My parents owned Thoroughbred Race horses at that time and my dad planned to name the next newborn Axl Rose and he was convinced that would be the one to win the Triple Crown. From the moment my dad introduced himself to Axl it was if Axl could sense the physical pain my dad was in no matter how hard my dad tried to hide it, he treated my dad with so much respect and was so kind to him.

The media totally misrepresented Axl and its not fair!! I wrote a song about my dad and his murder but have never given it to anyone, the only person I would ever let see it would be Axl, I have zero talent but I didn’t know and still don’t know how to cope with the pain of losing my dad, especially how violent and brutal his murder was. I only wrote the song because I tried to find a way to put my feelings on paper, I didn’t and still don’t know what else to do. I hope some day Axl reads this and knows how much of a difference he made in my life and my dads, just seeing my dad so happy while talking to him.

5 hours ago, Oldest Goat said:

Didn't know he still had a traveling psychiatrist in the '02 tour, do you know if it was that same bitch that he had before?

P.S. I also call bullshit on him respecting his elders lol. If that story is to be believed I would say it's more likely he could not be fucked dealing with it and said "Yes, ma'am." in a sarcastic/depressed let's get this over with sort of way.

Yes, I can see him doing this. If the story is true, it's what most likely happened.

As for the black magic thing (like others already said - and @Kris_1989 posted the link above), when Alan Niven was kicked out, he became paranoid believing that Axl, Goldstein and Yoda were using psychic forces against himself and Izzy's album with the JuJu Hounds (:lol:) and he recruited a black magic "monk" from New Orleans (where he'd been with Izzy before) to put spells on Axl :rofl-lol:

 

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What the... :ph34r:

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:smiley-confused2:

 

Edit: Is that Fermanager in the background, observing action?

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46 minutes ago, Rocketqueen76 said:

Either Axl is at a titty bar, or that is one overly friendly fan. LOL

what's a "titty bar"? :scared:

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53 minutes ago, Rocketqueen76 said:

Either Axl is at a titty bar, or that is one overly friendly fan. LOL

No sure,but,not smell "fan"

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3 minutes ago, BlueJean Baby said:

Gentlemen's Club or Strip Bar ?

:facepalm:

 

:lol: I don't know!!! I think it is one of those crazy after show parties or just wild parties he used to go to /held in 2006 :smiley-confused2:

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3 hours ago, Blackstar said:

I remember it, yes. It was under that story with the girl on the tour bus in 2012, here:

http://www.radiometal.com/article/behind-the-scenes-the-other-axl-rose,78375

The media has always misrepresented Axl Rose. When Guns n Roses came to Austin, TX Axl stopped in at the salon my mom owned the day of the concert and he was the kindest man. I was so star struck I had trouble even talking but my dad who was there to have lunch with my mom talked to him for quite a while. I will never forget as Axl was getting ready to leave my dad said « have a great concert son » and Axl had the biggest smile and said « I will, thank you ».

Sadly my 71 year old father who was 100% disabled was beaten to death, murdered one year ago by a man nearly half his age and over twice his size. I will forever love Axl Rose for the way he treated my dad while at the salon. I haven’t slept more than two hours a night since it happened and all I do is YouTube Guns n Roses and watch and listen to their music. I love any music Axl puts out but I especially love the earlier years bc after Axl left the salon I gave my dad one of their CD’s and he LOVED it!! I had to go out and buy another, small price to pay to make my dad so happy. My parents owned Thoroughbred Race horses at that time and my dad planned to name the next newborn Axl Rose and he was convinced that would be the one to win the Triple Crown. From the moment my dad introduced himself to Axl it was if Axl could sense the physical pain my dad was in no matter how hard my dad tried to hide it, he treated my dad with so much respect and was so kind to him.

The media totally misrepresented Axl and its not fair!! I wrote a song about my dad and his murder but have never given it to anyone, the only person I would ever let see it would be Axl, I have zero talent but I didn’t know and still don’t know how to cope with the pain of losing my dad, especially how violent and brutal his murder was. I only wrote the song because I tried to find a way to put my feelings on paper, I didn’t and still don’t know what else to do. I hope some day Axl reads this and knows how much of a difference he made in my life and my dads, just seeing my dad so happy while talking to him.

Yes, I can see him doing this. If the story is true, it's what most likely happened.

As for the black magic thing (like others already said - and @Kris_1989 posted the link above), when Alan Niven was kicked out, he became paranoid believing that Axl, Goldstein and Yoda were using psychic forces against himself and Izzy's album with the JuJu Hounds (:lol:) and he recruited a black magic "monk" from New Orleans (where he'd been with Izzy before) to put spells on Axl :rofl-lol:

 

Beautiful story?

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12 minutes ago, killuridols said:

These are cool....

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¿Wtf?????

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