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21 minutes ago, Tori72 said:

What does the "apple cart" mean? :ph34r:

It just means to spoil things for someone else. Like if you know someone is going to be celebrating their birthday so you do something to try and wreck it. 

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32 minutes ago, lucie said:

I doubt very much if it has anything to do with  anonymous crazies...haven't they been on the loose for a long time.  I'd say the apple cart is more than upset....it's "i bought you a diamond ring" serious.

Yeah, but Meegan (or Slash) usually react when the crazies get too crazy and the girl in question has been pushing it a lot recently. It wouldn't even be the first time that Meegan called her out in particular, Meegan has gotten upset about her before.

 

32 minutes ago, Tori72 said:

Yes, @Frey sounds very plausible too and is a tiny bit less ignorant on the whole issue than what we thought initially. BUT. I still don't like this post and think she should have treated this differently. Why does she care what fans write about her anyway? I understand insults from fans or whoever are not easy to take but stirring things up doesn't help.

Anyway, I agree with MillionsofSpiders on the Perla post that it is sad to put their kids to those kind of things publicly. 

What does the "apple cart" mean? :ph34r:

I think all of it is pretty sad too and I agree that that Insta story is pretty ignorant.

But Meegan and Slash (and Perla for that matter) have always cared greatly about what the Internet crazies are doing, I mean Slash even had that other crazy girl (Jazmin) kicked out of the concert.

And this girl (thebitchisback4ever) and her friends (or her alternate accounts? because they sound exactly like her lol) appear no less crazy than Jazmin.

It's possible Meegan and Slash are as concerned about her doing something crazy as they're about Jazmin. Though antagonizing them further like that certainly isn't a very smart move either imo.

 

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1 hour ago, Frey said:

Lots of stuff I want to reply to, but about this:

 

I think I know who this is about. 

It's either about Perla as @MillionsOfSpiders said

OR

(and this was my first thought actually when I read that and is equally likely imo)

it's about that crazy girl that does nothing but spread hate about Meegan on Instagram (and her friends).

Because that girl and her friends keep calling Meegan a narcissist. In nearly every single post they make about Meegan they call her a narcissist and tell people to look up the definition of the word.:facepalm:

It's like the worst insult they can think of apparently and they repeat it ad nauseam.

So I think it's highly likely Meegan's post is in response to this nonsense. She definitely is aware of that girl and her friends because she has called them out before on her IG.

 

Thanks for your insight, that makes more sense.  I'm relieved.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not bothered with their private lives either (beyond being mildly amused by the teen angst antics), I was just worried it was a sign of discord within the band, that Slash and Axl were back at each other's throats or something (because up until Apollo show, I wasn't 100% convinced they've patched things up) and I was thinking, what the hell is she doing making that public right before St Louis and the next leg of the tour?  So I'm glad there are other more plausible explanations.  Still, kind of irresponsible of Meegan to take that to social media.  I mean, any GnR fan reading that might assume it's Axl, which isn't fair on him.  But I guess she didn't think of that.

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51 minutes ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said:

Thanks for your insight, that makes more sense.  I'm relieved.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not bothered with their private lives either (beyond being mildly amused by the teen angst antics), I was just worried it was a sign of discord within the band, that Slash and Axl were back at each other's throats or something (because up until Apollo show, I wasn't 100% convinced they've patched things up) and I was thinking, what the hell is she doing making that public right before St Louis and the next leg of the tour?  So I'm glad there are other more plausible explanations.  Still, kind of irresponsible of Meegan to take that to social media.  I mean, any GnR fan reading that might assume it's Axl, which isn't fair on him.  But I guess she didn't think of that.

I don't think any GNR fan reading that will assume the Instastory was about Axl..... Maybe the ones who are clueless but usually those people don't care/know about the entourage and don't follow wives, girlfriends and children like us, creeps, do :lol:

I've seen lots of people on the official Facebook account even asking who is Fernando or Beta, when someone else's mentions them so.... I wouldn't be so worried about such thing.

Besides, from a business point of view, I really doubt Meegan would go that far and post things like that about anyone within the "company" her boyfriend "works for". She is pretty aware this is work and she's committed to play the game until the end.

Axl and Slash will bite their tongues and keep it professional for as long as they can. There are millions of dollars behind and huge contracts and companies involved as to be acting like children again and jeopardizing all they have conquered so far. They are not that stupid. And if there was anything, I'm pretty sure their lawyers will work it out in the snap of a finger. This can't go wrong. They've already completed a year on the road making the tour go into Billboard and Forbes top rankings. If they ruin it with little bullshit, they will be finished. Forever.

As for Meegan being irresponsible and shit..... Well, that's her Instagram and she's entitled to post whatever she wants. It is not nice, of course, but I feel that she did it in the heat of the moment. She's usually a very calmed person, nice and doesnt engage with this BS. Like @MillionsOfSpiders said, it is pretty obvious the Perla post stirred up the hornets' nest and neither Meegan or Slash could handle it well.

There's probably "a whole lot of unknown" (to paraphrase my friend) to us fans about what's going on with them and their families. Not so long ago, Lucy was attacked on IG by that crazy woman @Frey mentioned in his post and everybody said this person does the dirty job for Perla..... so Meegan has probably been accumulating some frustration.... and let's be honest, Perla's post is really out of place with all that shit she says... unnecessary and also a big lie :facepalm: 

I agree though that the ones who suffer the most here are the children. Although it looks to me that Slash kids do not have Instagram. I really hope they don't and that they know nothing about this crap! It is really immature from all sides.

 

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Good morning!

I don't think it was about Axl...she will not risk Slash's future in that way...and I don't think things in GNR camp are bad...I saw videos of the Apollo gig and Axl, Duff and Slash seems comfortable with each other.

But also have hard time thinking is about Perla....Slash had 2 beautiful boys with her, apparently those boys are comfortable with Meegan, I doubt she badmouth, put or write something so petty about the mother of those boys, knowing that in one way or another either London or Cash will find that post...they are not naive to social media.

It has to be something about those stalkers.....

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Update :awesomeface:: Scary Instagram girl already felt personally attacked by Meegan's Insta story and made a new and pretty nasty anti-Meegan post complete with a long, incoherent rant about everything she thinks is wrong with Meegan :facepalm:

Our little Instagram loon wants the world to know that she is sick of Meegan harassing her every day (lol :lol:), that Meegan is a narcissist and that the definition she posted must be about herself, and that Meegan is a also a manipulator, a gold digger, a home-wrecker, only uses Slash for his money and because she wanted a bigger house, follows him around like a lost puppy, has no job and is lazy, that she has no friends and that she is childish and immature, that she used to be a hooker, that she is a shitty mother who doesn't care about her own children, that she doesn't love Slash's children and spreads lies about Perla, that she wasn't there with Slash for the AFD anniversary, that she puts people into jail just because they don't like her (I assume she means Jazmin), that she wasn't there for Slash when Chester died (LOL!), that she had sex with Slash's father (WTF?), and that she is a heartless and soulless person and a horrible mother and a complete waste of breath!

And that's just what I can remember right now after scrolling through that mess :facepalm:

 

6 hours ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said:

Thanks for your insight, that makes more sense.  I'm relieved.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not bothered with their private lives either (beyond being mildly amused by the teen angst antics), I was just worried it was a sign of discord within the band, that Slash and Axl were back at each other's throats or something (because up until Apollo show, I wasn't 100% convinced they've patched things up) and I was thinking, what the hell is she doing making that public right before St Louis and the next leg of the tour?  So I'm glad there are other more plausible explanations.  Still, kind of irresponsible of Meegan to take that to social media.  I mean, any GnR fan reading that might assume it's Axl, which isn't fair on him.  But I guess she didn't think of that.

Nah, don't worry, everything's fine. For all the reasons @killuridols already mentioned and also because you only need to look at how they interact with each other during concerts. They've been very comfortable with each other and are all smiles at every show basically, even the very recent ones. Just go check out the videos in the Apollow show thread- Duff wouldn't be smiling at Axl so fondly and Axl wouldn't pounce on Slash so happily if anything was wrong between them.

 

4 hours ago, killuridols said:

As for Meegan being irresponsible and shit..... Well, that's her Instagram and she's entitled to post whatever she wants. It is not nice, of course, but I feel that she did it in the heat of the moment. She's usually a very calmed person, nice and doesnt engage with this BS. Like @MillionsOfSpiders said, it is pretty obvious the Perla post stirred up the hornets' nest and neither Meegan or Slash could handle it well.

There's probably "a whole lot of unknown" (to paraphrase my friend) to us fans about what's going on with them and their families. Not so long ago, Lucy was attacked on IG by that crazy woman @Frey mentioned in his post and everybody said this person does the dirty job for Perla..... so Meegan has probably been accumulating some frustration.... and let's be honest, Perla's post is really out of place with all that shit she says... unnecessary and also a big lie :facepalm: 

I agree though that the ones who suffer the most here are the children. Although it looks to me that Slash kids do not have Instagram. I really hope they don't and that they know nothing about this crap! It is really immature from all sides.

Yes, the thing about Lucy is a good point.

Getting harrassed by some crazy Instagram stalker is one thing, but the crazy Instagram stalker also going after and attacking your children is a whole other level of shit.

I could easily see (and understand) Meegan losing it because of that (and I mean who wouldn't get mad about some bitch being nasty to your kids?).

Btw, one of the things I find scariest about this particular loon is that she loves dragging all the kids into everything. Apart from harassing Meegan's daughters and claiming they're strippers and whores, I've also seen her claim that she has talked to London and that London hates Meegan and is angry and so on and so forth.

As for Slash's kids having Instagram... I don't know about Cash, but London does have one. I know because Perla tagged him once (really smart of her btw :facepalm:). I checked it out and it's mostly just band stuff (and then I quickly left because I felt creepy looking at the kid's account). One thing I noticed though was that it seemed like Slash likes every single picture London posts. I thought that was kinda sweet :)

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P.S. I thought you were joking with the "Slash's new step mom" thing in your post yesterday, @killuridols :facepalm: OMG. :rofl-lol::facepalm:

(All this shit is worse than the most ridiculous telenovelas.)

 

 

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One of those Internet stalkers made death threats to Meegan. Just so people don't think they are random over the top fans that she should just learn to tolerate.

Death threats! 

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OMG @Frey :facepalm:

:lol:

This Slash bradybunch shanenigans is so much entertaining and fun than the Axl's freak show and we are becoming vicious in this thread with it :smiley-confused2:

Please, please, please send me screenshot (or copy&paste) the posts of that looney tunes, pliz... I wonder who the hell that is?? Sounds like someone I know but nah :scared:
I don't want to follow her (and she wouldn't even accept me) but I'd like to read all that. I'm sure I can figure out some more stuff :ph34r:

About the IG's of children... yeah, I saw the IG of London's band. Now I forgot the name and yes, I think he does have an account but it is not with his name, right?
I can't remember that either.

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I still think the flurry of Instagram posts is in relation to the birthday wishes though ...don't think it had anything to do with the Instagram antagonists but it obviously threw them into a frenzy. I don't do Instagram and don't know much about it....back in my day we kept our personal shit personal, our diaries locked up with a key etc haha.  Now days everyone is an over sharer and everyone is internet famous...It's all too much for little old me :P

 

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1 hour ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

One of those Internet stalkers made death threats to Meegan. Just so people don't think they are random over the top fans that she should just learn to tolerate.

Death threats! 

I agree. Death threats are a serious harassment and should be brought to court. I understand that laws are inadequate about dealing with shit happening in the digital sphere but I doubt that personal (non-)mentions and taking up the insult and dealing with it helps. It will just get the stalker psychologically more entangled with it all. That's armchair philiosophy there but anyway.

I do understand that it must be immensely stressful for every parent to have your kids been insulted and/or threatend by those kind of stalkers and I get that it is only human to loose it over that.  

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5 minutes ago, lucie said:

i read on here a while back, when there was drama surrounding one of the kids and Instagram, slashs girlfriend made her private account public, right in the middle of the drama.....why do that if you don't want drama yourself.  And if she is engaging with these people then that would definitely add fuel to the fire.  Just put your stuff on private and ignore any idiots (except the threats of course) and go about your business.  I totally get that it's not nice to have strangers giving you shit and it's really pathetic for anyone to be harassing anyone else but unfortunately things like Instagram make it possible for everyone to communicate their feelings directly at someone from behind a computer.  You can't have it both ways though, if you want to put your shit out there you have to expect some people wont like it and not everyone is going to fawn over you and tell you how wonderful you are (which is just as fucking creepy as far as i'm concerned).

Clearly the people surrounding these stars/famous people/musicians enjoy the notoriety they get just from being a friend or partner of the famous person and use it to their advantage, but internet spats are never a good look and everyone ends up looking stupid. 

It can be entertaining to watch though, but everyone involved just comes across as silly high schoolers.

This sounds like when a woman is raped by some asshole and everybody jumps on her because it must be HER fault that the aggressor was turned on by her short skirt or because she dared to went walking the streets alone at night :facepalm:

I mean, why do people have to lock themselves behind bars and other privacy stuff only because there are sick people out there who cannot handle their obsessions? :shrugs:

Fuck that! Meegan should be free to have her account open and post whatever the hell she wants and the nuts who don't like her should shut the fuck up and get a life instead of living a vicarious life.

I don't think she expects people to like her and adore her. She expects a minimum of respect and that's what she deserves. That's what WE ALL deserve.

In this sick logic, the good people has to keep themselves protected and locked in a cage, while the loonies must be allowed to violate rights, break the law and do whatever they want just because they can??

COME ON!

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1 hour ago, lucie said:

i read on here a while back, when there was drama surrounding one of the kids and Instagram, slashs girlfriend made her private account public, right in the middle of the drama.....why do that if you don't want drama yourself.  And if she is engaging with these people then that would definitely add fuel to the fire.  Just put your stuff on private and ignore any idiots (except the threats of course) and go about your business.  I totally get that it's not nice to have strangers giving you shit and it's really pathetic for anyone to be harassing anyone else but unfortunately things like Instagram make it possible for everyone to communicate their feelings directly at someone from behind a computer.  You can't have it both ways though, if you want to put your shit out there you have to expect some people wont like it and not everyone is going to fawn over you and tell you how wonderful you are (which is just as fucking creepy as far as i'm concerned).

Clearly the people surrounding these stars/famous people/musicians enjoy the notoriety they get just from being a friend or partner of the famous person and use it to their advantage, but internet spats are never a good look and everyone ends up looking stupid. 

It can be entertaining to watch though, but everyone involved just comes across as silly high schoolers.

I read it myself but only because a discussion was going on in here about it and I didn't want to get lost in said discussion. Far as I'm concerned, if people start talking shit about you and it gets bad like to the point of death threats being made, you report the death threats and promptly block the person so that they don't see your posts anymore. It's that simple. There is no need to engage in drama as it generally blows up. Just my thoughts.

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3 minutes ago, killuridols said:

This sounds like when a woman is raped by some asshole and everybody jumps on her because it must be HER fault that the aggressor was turned on by her short skirt or because she dared to went walking the streets alone at night :facepalm:

I mean, why do people have to lock themselves behind bars and other privacy stuff only because there are sick people out there who cannot handle their obsessions? :shrugs:

Fuck that! Meegan should be free to have her account open and post whatever the hell she wants and the nuts who don't like her should shut the fuck up and get a life instead of living a vicarious life.

I don't think she expects people to like her and adore her. She expects a minimum of respect and that's what she deserves. That's what WE ALL deserve.

In this sick logic, the good people has to keep themselves protected and locked in a cage, while the loonies must be allowed to violate rights, break the law and do whatever they want just because they can??

COME ON!

Oh for Gods sake are you serious.  I get that you don't like me but this is about as far reaching as ive ever seen.

 

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3 minutes ago, purplestargirl said:

I read it myself but only because a discussion was going on in here about it and I didn't want to get lost in said discussion. Far as I'm concerned, if people start talking shit about you and it gets bad like to the point of death threats being made, you report the death threats and promptly block the person so that they don't see your posts anymore. It's that simple. There is no need to engage in drama as it generally blows up. Just my thoughts.

I've only really read about it on these pages, but i agree, don't engage and be selective about who you share your shit with.  I'm sure the other members have their issues too but this is the issue that keeps popping up.

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7 minutes ago, purplestargirl said:

I read it myself but only because a discussion was going on in here about it and I didn't want to get lost in said discussion. Far as I'm concerned, if people start talking shit about you and it gets bad like to the point of death threats being made, you report the death threats and promptly block the person so that they don't see your posts anymore. It's that simple. There is no need to engage in drama as it generally blows up. Just my thoughts.

The problem is the current laws protect the people making the threats. There is literally nothing she can do about it unless they start harassing her offline.

But by engaging with them, she is doing exactly what these people want. They get pleasure out of her reaction. If she would stop reacting they would most likely stop and move on.

Social media (especially Instagram) is a cesspool for trolls and until the laws change you have to learn to ignore them or make your page private. As shitty as it is, that's just the reality right now.

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1 hour ago, lucie said:

I've only really read about it on these pages, but i agree, don't engage and be selective about who you share your shit with.  I'm sure the other members have their issues too but this is the issue that keeps popping up.

I never said not to be selective, only to block people when the harassment starts to get bad so you're not getting harassed. I actually like the fact that her account is public because she posts interesting things.

59 minutes ago, Kris_1989 said:

The problem is the current laws protect the people making the threats. There is literally nothing she can do about it unless they start harassing her offline.

But by engaging with them, she is doing exactly what these people want. They get pleasure out of her reaction. If she would stop reacting they would most likely stop and move on.

Social media (especially Instagram) is a cesspool for trolls and until the laws change you have to learn to ignore them or make your page private. As shitty as it is, that's just the reality right now.

That's fucked up (excuse my language). The laws should be protecting those who are getting the threats, not the other way around.

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23 minutes ago, lucie said:

slashs girlfriend made her private account public, right in the middle of the drama.....why do that if you don't want drama yourself.  And if she is engaging with these people then that would definitely add fuel to the fire

Do you not think she did that for a reason? proof maybe? links to perla maybe? Perhaps she was advised to make her account public again? These are not just regular trolls but have made serious threats to Meegan and her close family and friends.

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On another note, did anyone see the comments on the picture of Slash and Meegan cuddling each other yesterday? It was in regards to the ring that was on Meegan's left ring finger. People were congratulating them on getting engaged and asking if it was in fact an engagement ring. I'd like to know why people assume if you're wearing a ring on that finger, you're automatically engaged. I've seen couples do that but they're still boyfriend/girlfriend and not fiance/es. *Shrug*

I apologize in advance if I come off as rude here, not my intention and I'm just curious.

If Slash and Meegan did get engaged, congrats to them. :) 

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1 hour ago, Tori72 said:

I agree. Death threats are a serious harassment and should be brought to court. I understand that laws are inadequate about dealing with shit happening in the digital sphere but I doubt that personal (non-)mentions and taking up the insult and dealing with it helps. It will just get the stalker psychologically more entangled with it all. That's armchair philiosophy there but anyway.

I do understand that it must be immensely stressful for every parent to have your kids been insulted and/or threatend by those kind of stalkers and I get that it is only human to loose it over that.  

Yes, very good point here and I didn't think of it from that way. In a way I suppose they are getting the reaction they want. 

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13 minutes ago, janrichmond said:

Do you not think she did that for a reason? proof maybe? links to perla maybe? Perhaps she was advised to make her account public again? These are not just regular trolls but have made serious threats to Meegan and her close family and friends.

I assumed she did that because her account was verified and she had had problems with people making fake accounts of herself. 

Do you have to get verified if that's what people do to you?

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14 minutes ago, janrichmond said:

Do you not think she did that for a reason? proof maybe? links to perla maybe? Perhaps she was advised to make her account public again? These are not just regular trolls but have made serious threats to Meegan and her close family and friends.

Isn't she trying to become a photographer? That could be why her page is public now. So she can use it to get her work out there.

 

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2 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

I assumed she did that because her account was verified and she had had problems with people making fake accounts of herself. 

Do you have to get verified if that's what people do to you?

Getting verified has certainly helped with the fake accounts [most of them by the same person!]

4 minutes ago, Kris_1989 said:

Isn't she trying to become a photographer? That could be why her page is public now. So she can use it to get her work out there.

 

I thought that was just a hobby but you could be right.

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