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6 minutes ago, killuridols said:

That woman has always given me the creeps...

  The older one?

I guess Axl tried to be extra nice in St Louis. 

Is it my English or was the dude's writing kinda weird?

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14 minutes ago, Tori72 said:

  The older one?

I guess Axl tried to be extra nice in St Louis. 

Is it my English or was the dude's writing kinda weird?

Yes, I "know" her from the social networks and that old website Paradise City. Enabler of the looney who talks to himself at Nighttrain.

No, I think the guy typed from a phone and the autocorrect fucked up his message. It doesn't make sense to me either.

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Awww 'partner in crime' :wub: But, yeah, in this case he was not. You did that alone, sweetie. But he said he thought it was cool. So there, maybe a little partner in crime :P 

 

7 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

This list makes me really like Perla :lol:

This list...poor Perlita...curly daddy was no piece of cake. 'I'm so sorry...can we fuck now', it's just :facepalm:

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In some ways, I really enjoy Perla. I appreciate the Sass.

That being said, if you start messing with someone who is cheating on their spouse to be with you, you don't really get to be surprised when that person also treats you like a piece of shit.  Was Slash still with Perla when he got back together with Meegan?

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I think it's pretty nice of Axl to dedicate KOHD to Buckley.

Shows he's at least paying attention to what's going on with the people around him and taking part in their lives.

That's a good sign.

(Although KOHD is starting to become the "dead dog song" to me. First Rosie the Chihuahua, now Buckley the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel. Hope no one else has any dogs in danger of dying.)

And speaking of dogs... Why does Beta's (or Beta's and Axl's) dog have a photoshoot lined up?

Why can Blue take part in a photoshoot, but not Axl? :P

Are we getting some magazine article about Beta featuring Mr. Blue? Or is Blue a famous French Bulldog about to appear in a dog magazine?

Questions, questions....

 

12 hours ago, Tori72 said:

I have never heard of the woman who got pregnant by Axl. When was that and for how long have they been together? Did Axl react somehow to that?

The whole Slash thing. The whole thing makes me laugh. Apparently he never changed his sleazy and cheating self of the 80ies. I remember very well our discussion about the parts of his book about Meegan. I was one of us who found those things awfully disrespectful and hurting he said about her. Whatever it was that made her go back to him, I guess it was not a major change in his personality but something else. The whole groupie thing (forgot her name) is weird. It started someday in at least 1990 because Izzy was still on board. And then they met during VR era again and he's groping her boob? Maybe they were even "friends" during a time?

Woman who got pregnant by Axl: Julianna Sedbrook. Late 80s or early 90s. They never really were together, she was just one of the many women Axl was friends with and had "relations" with from time to time, similar to Adriana Smith. One of the stripper girls basically. She also dated Steven at some point. She's been discussed twice iirc. Once in this thread and once in the old thread I think. If you search the threads for her name, her story should show up somewhere. And Axl didn't react, because she never told him. He might have learned about it when she gave that interview though. Iirc, someone said a thread here on mygnr about this topic was locked because it might have been upsetting for Axl to learn about the pregnancy and the miscarriage? Or something like that.

And no, the stuff with Roxana The Groupie happened in 2006, not 1990. In 2006 Izzy was on tour with Axl and NuGNR and that's why he was around in all her stories.

 

11 hours ago, Kris_1989 said:

I know it's tempting to laugh at all the groupie talk, but do you guys remember Perla's "excuses men make" list she posted on Instagram? The one where she had "I can't help it. I'm a sex addict" on there? Maybe there is more truth to that than we thought? It's not uncommon for addicts to swap out one addiction for another and it would explain why he would hook up with somebody like Roxana.

I believe Slash used every single one of these excuses with her.

 

11 hours ago, killuridols said:

Ah yeah, THAT woman :facepalm:

I keep forgetting that name because i know her with a different name, but yeah, she claims to be the woman that's in bed with Steven Adler during 2 second in the WTTJ video :lol: and then she made up a story of being crazy in love with Axl while he was with Erin :rolleyes:

I'm not sure she can be trusted with that story..... I smell BS.

She's not lying about being the girl in the WTTJ video.

Iirc, Steven talks about Julianna in his book or in one of his interviews. I remember him saying something about dating a hot girl named Julianna at the time that he suggested should appear in the video.

 

9 hours ago, purplestargirl said:

Edit: Apparently a partner in crime refers to good friends who get into trouble or your significant other, which we know Slash and Axl are not in a relationship. My question is this: When the hell have they ever gotten into trouble together and when did they consider themselves good/best friends? 

Too many times to count and for multiple years in the 80s and 90s???

Oh I see @Asia already beat me to it lol:

7 hours ago, Asia said:

Answer to part 1: Probably millions of times

Answer to part 2: Since more or less 1984 until the mid 90-s, as for now, I have not enough information, however I think they're back to considering each other at least good friends ;)

 

9 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

I don't think it had any deeper meaning, it was just a way of introducing Slash and mentioning the riot. That's all. 

7 hours ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said:

Re: Axl's my partner in crime comment.  I took this to be a simple reference to their friendship i.e. this is my buddy, my pal, my mate, my partner in crime.  It's a bit of an old fashioned phrase tbh, I remember it being used a bit in my younger years where you'd introduce your mate as your 'partner in crime.'  Guess it doesn't get used so much these days.  I think Axl was just looking for an opportunity to crack a joke about the 'incident' and introduce Slash at the same time e.g. My partner in crime, returning to the scene of the crime - see what I did there wink, nudge - type of thing. I like that he said that. I've always been a bit sceptical about those two having patched things up but they seemed to be in good spirits together at Apollo and that remark makes me more confident that the friendship has been restored and it's not a sham.  I don't know why it matters to me that they're friends, it just does.

I agree.

That comment is not a big deal, just something nice to say when introducing Slash and also referencing their past history with this place. And as @dgnr just pointed out, Slash did think Axl jumping into the crowd like that was cool :P And you know, now that I think about it, in his book Slash also talked about getting pissed off at the St. Louis biker guy when he met him years later and the guy thought he could talk shit about Axl to Slash's face. As we all know, Axl read Slash's book and to him it probably felt like Slash was defening him in that story, so yeah...

Aside from that, I am not surprised Axl would think of Slash as his partner in crime in a general sense. In old interviews, they used to talk about how it's basically the two of them running the entire GNR machine. I remember either Axl or Slash saying that the two of them would manage band business and make decisions and then they'd ask Duff about his opinion. I also remember Axl saying that he mostly relied on Slash with band stuff or something like that.

And I don't see why Izzy would be more deserving of that title. It was Slash after all who made Axl "cry like he had never cried before" when he left. Yeah, Izzy made Axl cry as well for a couple of hours, but Slash clearly wins the "make Axl sad" duel :awesomeface:  (I'm joking obviously, please don't kill me Izzaxl lovers :scared:)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You might already know this, but just in case. Erin is back on FB :headbang: I don't know about twitter or other social media she used to have

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16 minutes ago, Frey said:

 

And I don't see why Izzy would be more deserving of that title. It was Slash after all who made Axl "cry like he had never cried before" when he left. Yeah, Izzy made Axl cry as well for a couple of hours, but Slash clearly wins the "make Axl sad" duel :awesomeface:  (I'm joking obviously, please don't kill me Izzaxl lovers :scared:

 

Ooooh...what is this? Did Axl reveal this in an interview?  Hmm...intriguing...!

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3 minutes ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said:

Ooooh...what is this? Did Axl reveal this in an interview?  Hmm...intriguing...!

Yes, he did. Iirc a Rolling Stone interview ca. 2000. He also revealed in that interview that Slash was "negatively seductive".

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10 minutes ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said:

Ooooh...what is this? Did Axl reveal this in an interview?  Hmm...intriguing...!

Google to the rescue:

RS Magazine, 2001

''I never said that I was bitter,'' Rose explains, characteristically concerned with making fine distinctions. ''Hurt, yeah. Disappointed. I mean, with Slash, I remember crying about all kinds of things in my life, but I had never felt hot, burning tears...hot, burning tears of anger. Basically, to me, it was because I am watching this guy and I don't understand it. Playing with everyone from Space Ghost to Michael Jackson. I don't get it. I wanted the world to love and respect him. I just watched him throw it away.''

 

3 minutes ago, lilacmess said:

Yes, he did. Iirc a Rolling Stone interview ca. 2000. He also revealed in that interview that Slash was "negatively seductive".

Oh right, "negatively seductive" :lol: I had forgotten about that lol.

 

12 hours ago, BorderlineCrazy said:

I can totally see Axl wearing that shirt :lol:

Axl wearing a Slash shirt :lol:

Would be absolutely hilarious :rofl-lol:

Especially considering all the Slash shirt drama in the past.

Please, somebody make it happen lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, lilacmess said:

Yes, he did. Iirc a Rolling Stone interview ca. 2000. He also revealed in that interview that Slash was "negatively seductive".

Negatively seductive...what, I wonder, does he mean by that?  I guess it must be a sort of reference to the fact Axl can't easily wash his hands of Slash because he's in awe of Slash's talent?  Which makes him irreplaceable?  

 

5 minutes ago, Frey said:

Google to the rescue:

RS Magazine, 2001

''I never said that I was bitter,'' Rose explains, characteristically concerned with making fine distinctions. ''Hurt, yeah. Disappointed. I mean, with Slash, I remember crying about all kinds of things in my life, but I had never felt hot, burning tears...hot, burning tears of anger. Basically, to me, it was because I am watching this guy and I don't understand it. Playing with everyone from Space Ghost to Michael Jackson. I don't get it. I wanted the world to love and respect him. I just watched him throw it away.''

 

Oh right, "negatively seductive" :lol: I had forgotten about that lol.

 

 

Axl wearing a Slash shirt :lol:

Would be absolutely hilarious :rofl-lol:

Especially considering all the Slash shirt drama in the past.

Please, somebody make it happen lol.

 

Oh wow.  That quote.  Bloody hell...thanks for finding that.  Don't blame him though.  This here: I wanted the world to love and respect him. I watched him throw it away.  Wonder what the two think about that nowadays?

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1 hour ago, Frey said:

She's not lying about being the girl in the WTTJ video.

Iirc, Steven talks about Julianna in his book or in one of his interviews. I remember him saying something about dating a hot girl named Julianna at the time that he suggested should appear in the video.

I dunno because her face looks a far cry from the woman in the video. They look like two different people.

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16 minutes ago, Asia said:

Also let's remember what Slash wrote in his book was written through bitterness and anger after the split. Although I believe Axl's attack on the Stump idiot might get him pissed at some point, he also did defend Axl quite fiercely at that time. There's an interview in You Tube where he bashes the stump guy really hard and says some nice things about Axl - that Axl is doing everything he can, that he's playing it cool and letting things go just to end it and continue with the tour but that guy is just trying his best to make problems and that basically, as he put it, the guy is the thorn in Axl's side and he sounds pretty honest and emotionally engaged saying that, it doesn't sound like band politics at all. He also says that he just talked or talks with Axl about it every day, something like that. It really doesn't sound like he's pissed or holds it against Axl as much as he later claimed he did.

In his book he mentions the incident and that Stump comes to him bragging and saying bad things about Axl, Slash didn't like and say that no one, NO ONE has the right to badmouth Axl, just him..jaja...I thought at that time that it was really a strong bond between those two.....

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9 minutes ago, Georgina Arriaga said:

In his book he mentions the incident and that Stump comes to him bragging and saying bad things about Axl, Slash didn't like and say that no one, NO ONE has the right to badmouth Axl, just him..jaja...I thought at that time that it was really a strong bond between those two.....

Didn't he say this to Scott Weiland?? :question:

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29 minutes ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said:

Negatively seductive...what, I wonder, does he mean by that?  I guess it must be a sort of reference to the fact Axl can't easily wash his hands of Slash because he's in awe of Slash's talent?  Which makes him irreplaceable?  

Yes I wonder what's it means that...

Slash is irreplaceable....how many guitarrist Axl's tried? 5 or 6? 

@killuridols I will look for the quote...You give me homework!

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Slash enjoyed the excitement and a bit of chaos at the shows, so it's not strange that he thought it was cool when Axl jumped into the crowd. Axl had done it before anyway, it wasn't completely something out of the "ordinary", lol. They just continued jamming, expecting the show to go on when Axl would be back up. And it would have gone on if Axl hadn't left the stage (which was what caused the riot and not the diving into the crowd). The only one who couldn't take this behaviour anymore was Izzy, because he was sober now.

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28 minutes ago, Asia said:

Also let's remember what Slash wrote in his book was written through bitterness and anger after the split. Although I believe Axl's attack on the Stump idiot might get him pissed at some point, he also did defend Axl quite fiercely at that time. There's an interview in You Tube where he bashes the stump guy really hard and says some nice things about Axl - that Axl is doing everything he can, that he's playing it cool and letting things go just to end it and continue with the tour but that guy is just trying his best to make problems and that basically, as he put it, the guy is the thorn in Axl's side and he sounds pretty honest and emotionally engaged saying that, it doesn't sound like band politics at all. He also says that he just talked or talks with Axl about it every day, something like that. It really doesn't sound like he's pissed or holds it against Axl as much as he later claimed he did.

 

It's a good place for the little collection of quotes I once gathered for the sake of some other discussion on this forum :lol:

"Axl, it is said, is a notoriously difficult character to deal with. How do the two of you get along as people, outside the band?" "We love each other" [slash in "The Most Dangerous Band in the World by Mick Wall, 1988]

 

INTERVIEW: Do you think that having a relationship with a band has to do with the same things as having a relationship with a person?

 

AXL: Yes, l think so. Especially with Slash and it's definitely a marriage. (Interview Magazine, May, 1992)

 

Slash on the process of writing with Axl (Calling Howard Stern in 1996):

 

It's a matter of sitting down with somebody you love very much and like going 'you know let's try this' and he goes 'yeah, it's a great idea'

 

Me and Axl and Duff are obviously way the fuck more close and personal than they can even possibly put out in some magazine. (Coiled and Ready

 

Rolling Stone, April 1995)

 

Slash on splitting with Axl and divorce: In retrospect, it’s kind of interesting that I suddenly had disconnected with the two most long-term, closest relationships I had had up to that point, just a matter of months apart. (....)

 

(Anthony Bozza – Slash).

 

(...)There were moments there when I loved him to death

 

(Anthony Bozza – Slash)

 

[…]The bottom line is that nothing can come between Slash and I, and as long as we have that bond we have Guns N’ Roses. (Hit Parader Axl Rose Interview, 1992)

 

We'll just sit up all night and talk, and it's me and Axl talking. It goes beyond anything you could write down… (Slash, Tears Before Bedtime, Q, July 1991)

 

Thanks so much for these quotes.  Some I knew of, most I didn't, so that was really nice to read.  On the subject of Slash's autobiography, actually, I didn't detect much, if any, underlying bitterness or loathing, but's that just me.  More like he was royally pissed off with Axl, which is totally understandable (I will never, for the life of me, understand the lateness to shows...it is inexcusable and Axl's reason for it, just idiotic).  But yeah, I actually thought Slash's respect and admiration, in spite of all the shit that went down, came through the writing all the same.  He did say he bore Axl 'No ill will' and many times seemed to defend him.  

Incidentally, on YT there's an interview with Slash on Howard Stern in about 91, where Howard is badmouthing Axl and basically tries to bait Slash into badmouthing him too, and Slash doesn't say anything (Howards keeps pushing it) and eventually Slash tells Howard that if he wants to do that to Axl, fine, but not to expect Slash to engage in that kind of talk because he and Axl are 'real close and he's not going to do that to him' and that Axl's a 'sweetheart', which I thought was cute.  :lol:

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Stubmled upon this. Quite sad in the light of what happened just a few years later...

 

8 minutes ago, killuridols said:

Didn't he say this to Scott Weiland??

He said that to both of them.

8 minutes ago, Georgina Arriaga said:

Yes I wonder what's it means that...

I don't think it relates that much to his guitar playing, I think it's more about how much Axl has engaged himself in this relationship with Slash despite all the negativity - all the fights, all the drug abuse, all the drama - he still was very much into it until the end and then for another 20 years :P

 

1 minute ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said:

Incidentally, on YT there's an interview with Slash on Howard Stern in about 91, where Howard is badmouthing Axl and basically tries to bait Slash into badmouthing him too, and Slash doesn't say anything (Howards keeps pushing it) and eventually Slash tells Howard that if he wants to do that to Axl, fine, but not to expect Slash to engage in that kind of talk because he and Axl are 'real close and he's not going to do that to him' and that Axl's a 'sweetheart', which I thought was cute.  

Link, please ;)

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1 hour ago, Fang said:

@Padme which account is her real one?

Erin Invicta Everly, she has posted a new or not seen yet pictures 2 or 3 of her. In one she is standing next to a street sign. 

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14 minutes ago, killuridols said:

OH EM GEE! :wow:

Did I just see Michelle Young say to Erin "my beautiful friend, I miss you"??? :confused:

YES! I was hoping for someone to comment on that! :lol:

And Erin gave it a "like" :awesomeface:

This keeps getting better and better!

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