killuridols Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, Rocketqueen76 said: Semantics my dear @killuridols. My point was that even if the sound slightly changed it still would have been received favorably had it been done by the original line-up I gotcha but I don't agree, lol First because AFD5 would have never recorded an album like CD and second because if the band had remained together (or at least the UYI tour lineup), there would have been a natural decline in the reception of their albums, like with every other band, the peak is usually when the people are pretty young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Frey Posted August 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) Taking this over here again, because spamming the Izzy thread with Slash pictures would make me feel like an asshole lol. 1 hour ago, kkferro72 said: 1 hour ago, Frey said: his hair is as shitty as Izzy's What did you just say??? *I'm not really mad at you, ok? It's time to face the ugly truth : Axl, Izzy, Steven and Slash all have shitty hair. Steven and Slash care enough to hide the fact with wigs and decent implants, while Axl and Izzy can't be bothered to really do anything and just go through life with shitty hair cuts and dry, brittle hair. Only Goldy Locks McKagan has somehow managed to still have fabulous natural hair, so he clearly wins this one 1 hour ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: 1 hour ago, Frey said: Lol wrote my post on this important topic just before you posted, so I basically already said my piece. But I actually think Axl looks pretty decent as long as you put a bandana and a hat on him and put him on stage. When his hair is hidden and he is happy and excited, he always looks very young to me, like a kid nearly. Axl's worst moments are when he's making sad faces with fans and his hair's flying around like the unkempt mess it is. That "look" ages him a lot. I do agree, having seen Axl up close, bandana and his stage face is the best. His cheekbones have been discussed many times in the neighbouring thread, but it's really strange how you can see the bone structure of his face without the glasses, it is really noticeable. I noticed it a lot because I couldn't stop staring at him! Axl does have rather unique facial structure, I can agree on that. Some kind of weird cross between an Irish pixie/elf who had a Chinese grandma and a chipmunk. 17 minutes ago, Kris_1989 said: I think all of them have aged pretty well. Especially will all the smoking and drinking they did back in the day. Axl & Slash look the most wrinkle free but as others said I think their weight has helped with that. Sometimes having a chubby face has it's perks. I thought Duff looked really good until this year. I'm not sure what he did, but it looks like he got too much under-eye filler at some point and now he looks like he's always squinting. But filler dissolves overtime so I'm sure he wont look as puffy eventually. And obviously I'm biased but I still think Izzy looks good. I like that he looks natural and like a normal guy. Like you could actually hang out with him and he wouldn't be freaking out about his hair, hat or rings the entire time. I like that in a guy. I'm glad someone else noticed that. I think Duff has done minor stuff to his face multiple times. It always strikes me when I see VR era pics of Duff. VR era Duff looks totally different than the Duff of the past couple years. His face back then was a lot less puffy and his skin more slack and I don't know, it's hard to describe but he had a different face back then and it's not aging that did that. Weirdly enough, I think Duff actually looks better nowadays though. VR era Duff looked kinda douchy and weird. 57 minutes ago, Fourteenbeers said: The aging with this band - sometimes they look better in pics, sometimes worse. Slash obviously has aged the best ( I didn't know about the hair though). For a while there, Slash's hair tried really hard to get away from his head: He clearly dyes it a lot as well- very obvious in this picture. Slash is probably rather gray underneath all that hair dye: (Yes, I just made a hair post. I'm so screwed ) Edited August 1, 2017 by Frey 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) @Frey I think slash has a weave, not implants. In that last picture if you look at his temple area you can see where the weave starts. The texture of his natural hair above that gives it away. I think Steven has the same thing. Except Steven's seems to start around his cheekbone area. Axl's hair just needs to be toned. The color he's got now is way too brassy which is why it looks so brittle. If he fixes the color and uses a good conditioner his hair wouldn't be bad at all. Duff is some kind of magician with his hair. That guys been using bleach for 30+ years. How the hell he's not bald is some kind of miracle. Izzy just doesn't give a fuck. Pretty sure he just rolls outta bed and throws on a hat. Quote (Yes, I just made a hair post. I'm so screwed ) Edited August 1, 2017 by Kris_1989 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fourteenbeers Posted August 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2017 16 minutes ago, Frey said: Axl does have rather unique facial structure, I can agree on that. Some kind of weird cross between an Irish pixie/elf who had a Chinese grandma and a chipmunk. What a description of Axl... ++ = 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgina Arriaga Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 24 minutes ago, Frey said: Axl does have rather unique facial structure, I can agree on that. Some kind of weird cross between an Irish pixie/elf who had a Chinese grandma and a chipmunk. Lovely description @Frey jaja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Kris_1989 said: @Frey I think slash has a weave, not implants. In that last picture if you look at his temple area you can see where the weave starts. The texture of his natural hair above that gives it away. I think Steven has the same thing. Except Steven's seems to start around his cheekbone area. Axl's hair just needs to be toned. The color he's got now is way too brassy which is why it looks so brittle. If he fixes the color and uses a good conditioner his hair wouldn't be bad at all. Duff is some kind of magician with his hair. That guys been using bleach for 30+ years. How the hell he's not bald is some kind of miracle. Izzy just doesn't give a fuck. Pretty sure he just rolls outta bed and throws on a hat. I think you are probably right about Steven and Slash having a weave (what exactly is that though? Is it just somehow woven into the natural hair that's left or glued to the head or what?), but the bald spots on top of Slash's head that were already apparent in the 2000s are gone now too, so I think Slash might have both a weave and implants? I'll trust your knowledge and expertise on the rest 9 minutes ago, Fourteenbeers said: What a description of Axl... ++ = Accurate. Although you could have taken one of these pictures of Axl where he is smiling really big and gets those chipmunk cheeks and the slanted eyes to really hit it home Edited August 1, 2017 by Frey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Omg You guys are too funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourteenbeers Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Frey said: Accurate. Although you could have taken one of these pictures of Axl where he is smiling really big and gets those chipmunk cheeks and the slanted eyes to really hit it home Here's a smile..and another one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) @Frey Basically it's a strand of hair (Can be natural, synthetic or a combination of the two) that they clamp to your natural hair with a little band. This is what they look like once they're installed. Edited August 1, 2017 by Kris_1989 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 What's meant to be wrong with Izzys hair I thought his hair was just normal ?? I also can't figure out what the hell Axl has done to his teeth, replaced a lot of them I think. Ouch!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourteenbeers Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Kris_1989 said: Basically it's a strand of hair (Can be natural, synthetic or a combination of the two) that they clamp to your natural hair with a little band. This is what they look like once they're installed. They look uncomfortable as hell... 11 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: I also can't figure out what the hell Axl has done to his teeth, replaced a lot of them I think. Ouch!! porcelain veneers? Edited August 1, 2017 by Fourteenbeers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Fourteenbeers said: porcelain veneers? Maybe? I don't think veneers usually look like that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketqueen76 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 21 minutes ago, Frey said: I think you are probably right about Steven and Slash having a weave (what exactly is that though? Is it just somehow woven into the natural hair that's left or glued to the head or what?), but the bald spots on top of Slash's head that were already apparent in the 2000s are gone now too, so I think Slash might have both a weave and implants? I'll trust your knowledge and expertise on the rest Accurate. Although you could have taken one of these pictures of Axl where he is smiling really big and gets those chipmunk cheeks and the slanted eyes to really hit it home Weave can either be glued on as a track or sown into a braid of the persons natural hair. Like Slash I am natural and refuse to go near the stuff LOL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Frey Posted August 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, Kris_1989 said: Basically it's a strand of hair (Can be natural, synthetic or a combination of the two) that they clamp to your natural hair with a little band. This is what they look like once they're installed. Thanks. So are weaves the same thing as hair extensions then? 5 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: What's meant to be wrong with Izzys hair I thought his hair was just normal ?? I also can't figure out what the hell Axl has done to his teeth, replaced a lot of them I think. Ouch!! I can only speak for myself, but I've just noticed he had some unflattering/weird hair cuts in some pics I've seen. And his hair is much thinner than it used to be and also kinda dry looking, which is just what happens with aging. But since we're being super critical assholes atm and compare everyone to Duff "Gold standard for hair in your 50s" McKagan, I guess it's fair game to point it out lol. (Also, I'll admit I'm a bit of a hair snob. I've had long hair for years and even though it's a bit shorter these days, I still sometimes put conditioner in it. I don't care if admitting that makes me a pussy or gets me thrown out of the manly man club, because it works and makes my hair much nicer than it usually would be ) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alja Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said: I don't want them to re-create Appetite per se, I just want them to create music that stays true to their musical roots, which is blues based hard rock with the bass turned way the fuck up (there's no bass on CD. That is one of THE defining sounds of GnR and it's buried). And that's not a lifestyle thing; they don't have to be wild boys living in a hovel in Gardner St to continue making kickass music - they just have to make the kind of music they themselves love. Sure they can evolve and update and whatnot, but IF they put out new music, I wouldn't like them to lose sight of their original passion for blues/rock genre. I think Axl lost touch with his musical roots on CD, partially because he obviously had other artistic things he wanted to work through, but also because he lacked Slash and Duff's input and was working with hired hands who weren't all on the same page musically/artistically. Anyway, i'm still holding out for hope they'll put out new music, not AFD 2, but something we'll still recognise as Guns. Edit: And yeah, I totally regard CD as Axl solo project. I don't even think of it as Guns. The one who got the blues (or roll), which makes rock true rock`n`roll and that deep, recognizable GNR sound, was Izzy (in UYI era he was still into old, rock`n`roll, simple style of recording with few tracks, while dominantly Axl was into some - I am definitely not sound engineer, just read some bios and things - complex digital thing). I played myself Velvet revolver, and they are solid rock band, but they miss the roll. Axl got used to polish songs to perfection, so you got CD - tons of polish, but still kinda missing the root, the roll. Sound is sometimes too complex and messy for me - too many different sound lines. But it seems like Axl IS into complex sounds. Axl`s hair looked good live and I don`t think that there is much more to do with it. Hair extensions: works if you have hair on the top of your head Teeth: I went through his pics, it seems to be just a very, very good dentists job with most of teeth maintained and also quality daily care: his lower teeth were always like chewed back, and this asymmetry maintains, also front teeth differ in size and are almost the same shape like on old photos. He might have naturally darker color of enamel, but fixed it soon (80s?). Shape of front teeth maintains basically through all the life, lower become more chewed down. Replaced teeth tend to be too nice, not just white (if well maintained, of course), but too sharp and younger looking, if you are 50 something (more you can see it in lower ones). I don`t say that dentist cannot make you authentic looking teeth, but it`s really not common practice, if you invest, you want beauty (guessing quality of teeth is crucial in my job). Edited August 1, 2017 by Alja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 39 minutes ago, Fourteenbeers said: What a description of Axl... ++ = Poors guys just lack what made investigate into ass them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, Frey said: Also, I'll admit I'm a bit of a hair snob. I've had long hair for years and even though it's a bit shorter these days, I still sometimes put conditioner in it. I don't care if admitting that makes me a pussy or gets me thrown out of the manly man club, because it works and makes my hair much nicer than it usually would be ) Because you're worth it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 No way. Axl has done something to his teeth that has changed his smile a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Now this is a really important topic, thank you! @Frey Axl has amazing bone structure and beautiful eyes. So much about Axl is debated back and forth but I think it's universally agreed that he was incredible to look at in his day, no matter what he was wearing (or not wearing as the case often was). I think he's still really handsome and has that undefinable IT factor. He just needs a decent hair style and to lose the pot belly. Why doesn't someone recommend a decent hair dresser for him? I don't understand it. He goes to all that trouble to make his teeth whiter than Simon Cowl's and won't do a thing with his hair. I think he needs to repair it, grow it and tie it back. Stay red but probably needs help in the colour department now. Slash, I don't think the hair suits him anymore now that he's not young and lanky. Poor Axl cops it all the time but Slash also has several chins, a belly, and unflattering photo angles galore, but nobody says anything his weight, looks etc.. He looks better in denim than leather these days. Duff has always looked fabulous (except when he was at the height of his alcoholism and he was bloated and looked horribly ill) and has aged the best out the three. Helps that he is tall, blonde and in excellent shape and dresses well. He's always dressed well. Only other Guns member who was effortlessly stylish and good to look at was Izzy. That guy had such style. They all were tremendously good looking though, even Steven with his mega-watt smile, and I loved how they presented themselves in such different ways. They each had their own style. @Alja I know Izzy was largely responsible for that sound but since he's not coming back I just didn't mention him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy14 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 @Frey . You're more woman that the rest of us Since I saw the big three recently, I still remember the way they look in a close-up so....Duff looks much better in reality than in the pics and videos, when i saw him on stage smiling and doing what he loves he looked really really great. And yes, he has the best hair in the band (Melissa included). You can't see much of Slash's face on stage and when I met him face to face it was at night so all I can say is that he looks like.....Slash ....my mum calls him "the guy without a face" And Axl definitely looks much better in reality either. When I met him I was surprised how good and young he looked . The same on stage, especially when he's smiling and mimicking the way that reminds me so much of his young self. His hair definitely needs to be fixed though. A bandana is fine for me, I don't need the hats. He should also smile more in the pics with fans....I'm really happy that I have a smiling Axl picture and not an ass-faced Axl picture. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said: Now this is a really important topic, thank you! @Frey Axl has amazing bone structure and beautiful eyes. So much about Axl is debated back and forth but I think it's universally agreed that he was incredible to look at in his day, no matter what he was wearing (or not wearing as the case often was). I think he's still really handsome and has that undefinable IT factor. He just needs a decent hair style and to lose the pot belly. Why doesn't someone recommend a decent hair dresser for him? I don't understand it. He goes to all that trouble to make his teeth whiter than Simon Cowl's and won't do a thing with his hair. I think he needs to repair it, grow it and tie it back. Stay red but probably needs help in the colour department now. Slash, I don't think the hair suits him anymore now that he's not young and lanky. Poor Axl cops it all the time but Slash also has several chins, a belly, and unflattering photo angles galore, but nobody says anything his weight, looks etc.. He looks better in denim than leather these days. Duff has always looked fabulous (except when he was at the height of his alcoholism and he was bloated and looked horribly ill) and has aged the best out the three. Helps that he is tall, blonde and in excellent shape and dresses well. He's always dressed well. Only other Guns member who was effortlessly stylish and good to look at was Izzy. That guy had such style. They all were tremendously good looking though, even Steven with his mega-watt smile, and I loved how they presented themselves in such different ways. They each had their own style. @Alja I know Izzy was largely responsible for that sound but since he's not coming back I just didn't mention him. Great description!!??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, janrichmond said: Because you're worth it Exactly! 5 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: No way. Axl has done something to his teeth that has changed his smile a bit. Apart from the color, his teeth look much bigger to me than they used to be. Back in the day, he had really tiny teeth lol. 1 minute ago, Andy14 said: @Frey . You're more woman that the rest of us Fuck off, long hair is metal and rock n roll and therefore manly. 4 minutes ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said: Now this is a really important topic, thank you! @Frey You're welcome I agree that Izzy and Duff were and are probably the best dressers out of all of them, while Steven was the worst. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Slash does not wear a wig leave him alone !!! @BorderlineCrazy Help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy14 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Frey said: Fuck off, long hair is metal and rock n roll and therefore manly. That's not what I meant and you know it . It's your detailed analysis of GNR hairstyles and looks. After all, it may be you who they should hire as their stylist . Can I be your assistant? Anyway.....you and long hair....my mental image of what you look like has totally changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourteenbeers Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said: Slash, I don't think the hair suits him anymore now that he's not young and lanky. Poor Axl cops it all the time but Slash also has several chins, a belly, and unflattering photo angles galore, but nobody says anything his weight, looks etc.. He looks better in denim than leather these days. Several chins? I've only counted two at most... (sorry @janrichmond) Edited August 1, 2017 by Fourteenbeers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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