MillionsOfSpiders Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Where you from @Tori72? Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tori72 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: Where you from @Tori72? Europe? Jep, Europe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Padme Posted March 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2017 I now believe even more. Thank you Slash by take care of Adler I foung this in another thread https://www.instagram.com/p/BRxPTXIFQYF/ 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 15 minutes ago, Padme said: I now believe even more. Thank you Slash by take care of Adler I foung this in another thread https://www.instagram.com/p/BRxPTXIFQYF/ I can see drama coming. Red haired drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 10 hours ago, Lumikki said: It's always such a relief to to come here after reading all the stupidity in the main section. People thinking Nikki Sixx is "a great lad with very little ego" and an "intelligent, likable" dude. You've got to be shitting me As @BorderlineCrazy correctly pointed out, the man has a bigger ego than everyone who ever was in GNR put together (which is saying something, considering people like Slash, Axl and Sorum have been part of this band) and is a complete and utter asshole. Makes all our favorite idiots in the band seem like sweet little choire boys by comparison. Also, go ask his ex-wife about what a great guy he is. Or better yet, his step son. The man is a waste of space and air, just like everyone else in Mötley Crue. @dgnr/e @dgnr Hi Lumikki! Thank you for the warm welcome back. It's good to see you here too. I'm with you and @BorderlineCrazy on Nikki. He's smart, but he's also a douchebag with an ego the size of Texas, from what I have read. And he seems really good at manipulating his fans to think he's wonderful. Motley Crue is a whole different level of horrible people. Except for maybe Mick Mars, I don't think I've ever heard or read anything bad about him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stella Posted March 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) On 3/16/2017 at 3:11 PM, Lumikki said: Great, discussion, guys. I agree that GNR and Axl probably weren't perceived as particularly girly and sissy by the average public, but I think there's still a more subconscious element of misogyny there, at least in people who sort of followed the band/Axl or actually had to deal with Axl. Some random Joe who doesnt give a fuck about GNR probably just knows Axl as the "crazy, aggressive singer from that fucked up band" (because that's the picture most frequently presented in the media) and doesn't give it any further thought. But in people who are invested in the band on some level (even if it's just to hate on them and leave nasty comments on Youtube), the rate of weirdly gendered or sexually charged comments towards Axl increases dramatically in my experience. But only towards Axl. Even people who hate GNR usually don't talk like that about Slash or Duff for example. Which is why I think whoever brought up internalised misogyny somewhere earlier is spot on. Most people suffer from some amount of internalized misogyny, homophobia, etc. and Axl has a talent for bringing these things out in full force in certain people. Likely because he defies societal norms of what it means to be a man in some ways, while Slash and Duff are both very stereotypically male in most ways that matter (Duff's a real expert on being a guy, he even wrote a book about it ). People see Axl being emotional and sensitive > being emotional and sensitive is considered female in our society > female = weaker and bad > Axl is a pussy/sissy/fag/bitch Axl likes ballads, piano and Elton John > ballads, piano and Elton John are for women and gays; real men like other things > female/ gay stuff = weaker and bad > Axl is a pussy/sissy/fag/bitch Axl is naturally pretty with feminine features and even dares to dress in gender-bending, "girly" clothing > no real man looks and dresses like that (and we also don't like to feel threatened in our masculinity or sexuality by that) > therefore Axl is not a real man > Axl is a pussy/sissy/fag/bitch Axl is irrational and people don't get him > being irrational and hard to understand is a female trait (women are mysterious after all and no one will ever be able to understand them) > having female traits as a guy is bad > Axl is a pussy/sissy/fag/bitch And that list could go on for quite a bit longer. Point being, there are a lot of things about Axl that could potentially provoke misogynist/sexist/homophobic reactions in some people. People usually tend to forgive men for having one or maybe two attributes like that (it only makes them quirky then or shows "their softer side"), but multiple ones? Highly suspicious and threatening. Additionally, in Axl's case, there's also a certain level of expectation placed upon him as the singer of a rock band I think. There's a sizable segment of people who expects musicians in "manly" forms of music like rock or metal to act like manly macho men, especially in a band that used to be referred to as "the most dangerous band in the world". They want to have James Hetfield types fronting their bands and not Axl Rose types. So Axl goes against what some people want and expect in that area as well, which is bound to cause negative reactions. I think this is a really great discussion to get back to... And I think this pretty much nails it. There's a ton of internalized misogyny, sexism and homophobia in Western society. Axl doesn't fit into the neat box that people want him to be in, and he doesn't have all of the stereotypical "macho male" characteristics that other men/society tend to respect and expect, and he gets slammed for it. In some of the interviews he did in the 90s he mentioned struggling with his perceptions of what a man should be, based on his background/upbringing and stereotypes, too. Plus, unfortunately emotional/mental health struggles don't seem to be very well respected or treated with a lot of compassion - when someone comes forward, especially if they're male, they're often told to 'man up' or 'stop whining.' It would be considered tacky and mean to laugh at someone who has cancer or a broken leg, but the same people have no issue poking at someone who shows emotional vulnerability or any sort of emotional or mental disorder (with the possible exception of substance abuse, but that is everywhere). Axl has been very open about the emotional trauma he's had, and has had visible anger issues, so again, he gets slammed. Edited March 18, 2017 by stella 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 8 hours ago, marlingrl03 said: I do...but I live in Alaska and *everyone* takes their shoes off right when you walk in the door. It's automatic...like we are Japanese or something. You don't want to track in all that dirt and stuff! Yeah, same here. I've almost always lived in major cities, and it's always been my family's custom to take off our shoes and put on house slippers or flip flops (that never go outside) once we're in the house. Even if I'm just going down the hallway in my building to throw out the garbage, I change into "outside" shoes when I leave my apartment and put on slippers as soon as I get back in the apartment. There's so much crap outside on the streets...rats and bodily fluids and God knows what else...I don't want to track that around the house. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) Wink emoji Edited March 18, 2017 by SerenityScorp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 1 hour ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: I can see drama coming. Red haired drama. From what I saw. The Red haired was too busy in twitter fighting the Orange asshole 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Maybe Slash was there to watch Steven so tht He didnt run His mouth again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tori72 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 32 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said: Wink emoji What's Gingersnap tweeting? Can someone pls translate that into proper english? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fansince88 Posted March 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2017 53 minutes ago, Tori72 said: What's Gingersnap tweeting? Can someone pls translate that into proper english? As we all know, in the midst of all the Trump/Russia allegations Trump tweeted about Obama wiretapping him. Many thought it was just to distract (aka the red herring) people from the Russian story. This week there were some theories floated out that the British HCGQ did the wiretapping , but that has proven to be untrue also. So, basiscally Gingersnap wants the press to forget about the British wiretapping (the red herring) and go back to the Russian allegations, or the Borscht, as he called it. Im either a bigger nerd than I thought or I speak Axl-language 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tori72 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Fansince88 said: As we all know, in the midst of all the Trump/Russia allegations Trump tweeted about Obama wiretapping him. Many thought it was just to distract (aka the red herring) people from the Russian story. This week there were some theories floated out that the British HCGQ did the wiretapping , but that has proven to be untrue also. So, basiscally Gingersnap wants the press to forget about the British wiretapping (the red herring) and go back to the Russian allegations, or the Borscht, as he called it. Im either a bigger nerd than I thought or I speak Axl-language Thanks for this, great explanation. You rock! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Whiskey Rose Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 7 hours ago, killuridols said: WHAT IF.... or...... What happens.... if you invite friends over dinner.....relatives or your husband's boss.... Let's say it is a formal dinner, with tablecloth, flowers, wine and all the shit..... Do you still ask your guests, who will for sure be wearing some nice suit or a gown in the case of women, or some really nice dress......... to take their fancy shoes off and put on your used-up smelly slippers? Thus ruining the outfit they picked to put on to attend YOUR dinner? I am sweating at the anticipation of your answer Ok, first lets get rid of the whole "slippers" notion, we do not do that here lol. It's stockings, socks or bare feet all the way haha. (only grandmas get a pass, they usually wear their comfy sandals around.) I've never hosted such a Formal dinner, so I can't really say..but if women are coming in with their high heels and such, No, I wouldn't ask them to take them off. So you are safe if you show up to my house in a gown I went to an Easter dinner hosted by a Persian family..I showed up in a skirt and high heeled boots..I went to take them off and they were all "No no no no leave them on!" But I couldn't, I just couldn't, it felt weird to walk around in someone's house in high heeled boots. So I was the only one in stockinged feet while all the other women came and left their heels/boots on..then I did feel very odd lol. But I didn't know! Too bad this thread wasn't around then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Rose Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 46 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said: Wait, so Slash and Steven played together last night? What is happening... @SerenityScorp your avatar!! I'm going to hell for posting that pic I just know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tori72 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Dear shoe lovers, if your shoes are part of your outfit, you can leave them on. I do the same when I go somewhere and wanna show off my heels. And yeah, when you have a more formal thing or you throw a party everyone leaves their shoes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Whiskey Rose said: Wait, so Slash and Steven played together last night? What is happening... @SerenityScorp your avatar!! I'm going to hell for posting that pic I just know it. Perfect rank for Perfect pic Edited March 18, 2017 by SerenityScorp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fansince88 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 10 hours ago, Whiskey Rose said: Does she have a book, or..? I would like to know more about that side of Tommy Lee. ^This would actually be an interesting idea for a thread. People could summarize/review some of the books they have read about muscians and bands and the people around them. About the shoes: We usually don't wear shoes at home, however when my daughter was young she loved Legos and we had to wear shoes because those suckers hurt like hell if you step on one. Can anyone tell me what is in the left background of this picture. Is it a fish tank with lights? Is there a Christmas tree? A Christmas tree inside a fish tank? I had GNR on my TiVo wishlist and it always recorded a show about DJ Ashba having a customized fish tank, maybe Axl has one too? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Fansince88 said: ^This would actually be an interesting idea for a thread. People could summarize/review some of the books they have read about muscians and bands and the people around them. About the shoes: We usually don't wear shoes at home, however when my daughter was young she loved Legos and we had to wear shoes because those suckers hurt like hell if you step on one. Can anyone tell me what is in the left background of this picture. Is it a fish tank with lights? Is there a Christmas tree? A Christmas tree inside a fish tank? I had GNR on my TiVo wishlist and it always recorded a show about DJ Ashba having a customized fish tank, maybe Axl has one too? No its not in the fish tank, its beside the fish tank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sekh-met Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 9 hours ago, Rocketqueen76 said: LAWD HAVE MERCY!!! I had a cousin who had feet that smelled like funky corn chips, his ass had to keep his damn shoes on at all times. feel ya! The worst thing for me nowadays is that a lot of my colleagues in the office take their shoes off and wear some other indoor shoes or whatever, but then there are some that just take the shoes off for a while and...the smell is creeping on me from under the other end of the desk 10 hours ago, killuridols said: If they consider it rude, I will pull out my list of reasons why taking shoes off it is disgusting and they will see why I am right!! Yeah, I could not tolerate the smell of bad feet so please, leave your shoes on! Go for it! But seriously, I think most of the people would not mind that much and think you have a point and just mop the floor after you leave. But who knows maybe they got one of these! I should get couple of pairs just in case..for forein visitors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketqueen76 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 26 minutes ago, Sekh-met said: feel ya! The worst thing for me nowadays is that a lot of my colleagues in the office take their shoes off and wear some other indoor shoes or whatever, but then there are some that just take the shoes off for a while and...the smell is creeping on me from under the other end of the desk Go for it! But seriously, I think most of the people would not mind that much and think you have a point and just mop the floor after you leave. But who knows maybe they got one of these! I should get couple of pairs just in case..for forein visitors It gets really bad for me when my soldiers take off their boots after we've been on the gun range all day. Part of it is due to the fact that during these times we are sleeping outside and not able to take showers for a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Frey Posted March 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2017 @stella Good to see you back! 8 minutes ago, Fansince88 said: As we all know, in the midst of all the Trump/Russia allegations Trump tweeted about Obama wiretapping him. Many thought it was just to distract (aka the red herring) people from the Russian story. This week there were some theories floated out that the British HCGQ did the wiretapping , but that has proven to be untrue also. So, basiscally Gingersnap wants the press to forget about the British wiretapping (the red herring) and go back to the Russian allegations, or the Borscht, as he called it. Im either a bigger nerd than I thought or I speak Axl-language. This was more or less my interpretation as well, yes. Can you put fluent in Axl-ese on your CV? 12 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: I said it before I know, but I find it so strange how normal Axl's house is compared to how abnormal a person he appears to be! He has so much cool stuff in his house and out of all of the pictures from inside the guys' homes, his is the one I would say looks most welcoming and like a proper home. How strange. 12 hours ago, Lumikki said: Is he? I thought it was just the light reflecting in his eyes, but hard to tell. I wouldn't mind if Axl wore glasses more often. He always looked cute to me on the rare occasions he wore them. Yeah, I agree. I remember seeing all these pictures from Slash's house and thinking "this is exactly what you'd imagine an 80s rock star's mansion to look like - trashy, dark, gloomy, porny..." I mostly blame Perla for the decor, but still, it was so clichéd and so damn ugly lol. Axl's house looks bright and airy in comparison. And like people actually live in it. Axl's kitchen looks old and used (but friendly and normal) for example, while Slash's looked like something out of a fancy catalogue and like no one had ever touched it. I agree with you guys. This pic shows it well, imo. The puppy calender on the wall, the mismatched furniture, all the clutter and kitchen gadgets, a couple of cats running around... Bit chaotic and a lot going on, yeah, but it looks bright and welcoming. On a more serious note, it's a good thing I guess his house feels like a proper home, considering how much time he spends there (or rather has spent there in the past). He didn't leave his house much for years or even decades, so it better be nice and comfy at least 13 hours ago, Lumikki said: It's always such a relief to to come here after reading all the stupidity in the main section. People thinking Nikki Sixx is "a great lad with very little ego" and an "intelligent, likable" dude. You've got to be shitting me As @BorderlineCrazy correctly pointed out, the man has a bigger ego than everyone who ever was in GNR put together (which is saying something, considering people like Slash, Axl and Sorum have been part of this band) and is a complete and utter asshole. Makes all our favorite idiots in the band seem like sweet little choire boys by comparison. Also, go ask his ex-wife about what a great guy he is. Or better yet, his step son. The man is a waste of space and air, just like everyone else in Mötley Crue. /end rant 2 hours ago, stella said: I'm with you and @BorderlineCrazy on Nikki. He's smart, but he's also a douchebag with an ego the size of Texas, from what I have read. And he seems really good at manipulating his fans to think he's wonderful. Motley Crue is a whole different level of horrible people. Except for maybe Mick Mars, I don't think I've ever heard or read anything bad about him. 12 hours ago, beautifulanddamned said: You can't read The Dirt and come away thinking anything but that Nikki Sixx is pure evil. At least Tommy seems too stupid to truly know what he is doing and Mick Mars is literally crazy. Nikki and Vince are just pure pieces of shit. I actually kind of hate that Duff seems to be friends with this asshole. 10 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: I agree, but not about Tommy Lee. Pamela Anderson describes some of the most horrific mental and physical abuse he subjected his two young sons to, things you couldn't make up, that makes me so sick to my stomach. In my eyes he is the worst of the worst scum. 12 hours ago, BorderlineCrazy said: I'm glad someone else noticed his massive ego, I thought for a second I was living in a parallel universe and honestly wasn't interested in looking for the thousands of examples of the guy talking shit about pretty much the entire world and claiming he's so much better than everyone else. Crazy thing is he's pretty much a saint when compared to his former bandmate Vince. That man is something else and should have spent most of his life in jail. He's also the worst singer ever and every time a sound comes out of his mouth, that's noise pollution right there Agree with all of you. I honestly think Nikki Sixx is some kind of sociopath. He makes my skin crawl. And if you think he's a great guy, you should get your head checked or read some more about him before making a judgement. And the other people in this god awful band are just as bad. I've read so many horror stories about shit they've done, it really does make Axl, Slash, Izzy and the rest of them seem like fluffy little puppies. But now Nikki Sixx said something nice about Axl, so suddenly people feel the need to crawl up his ass 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sekh-met Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rocketqueen76 said: It gets really bad for me when my soldiers take off their boots after we've been on the gun range all day. Part of it is due to the fact that during these times we are sleeping outside and not able to take showers for a few days. That must be quite something! But its understandable under such circumstances..no one smells like lillies when not being able to take a shower. The office warriors on the other hand.. and obviously some people have naturally smelly feet, does not mean that they have no personal hygiene..it's just they could use more self reflection I guess, and not torture the others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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