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Thanks killuridols! :D I love the minimalist idea and I am loosely living with it a few years now. Also because I don’t like stuff standing around and I like to see walls and space. So I don’t have too much furniture or stuff sitting around.

I don’t have a huge wardrobe, but to be honest, I so wouldn’t mind! I love fashion and I love expressing things with it. Either the jeans and a tee expression as well other things. You know? So if I could I wouldn’t have capsule wardrobe but I do at the moment.  I got rid of a lot of things because I kept changing my weight due to my pregnancies. lol. Now I would fit into my old things again but it is 10 years later anyway. So what I’m saying is, I don’t have much to wear at the moment because either it’s old and too big or - I don’t have it yet. lol  So I guess I’m capsule wardrobing out of not being able to buy things at once. :)

@soon why are you handwashing your clothes? What benefit other than meditation does it have?

 

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2 hours ago, Tori72 said:

@soon why are you handwashing your clothes? What benefit other than meditation does it have?

I use this bag that is a modern version of a wash board. It was originally invented for campers and travellers.

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I learned about it in one of the minimalism videos that @killuridols showed me. I like it primarily for ecological reasons, using no electricity, less water and way less detergent. I can get a small jar of concentrated wash liquid for $1 at the zero waste store and with the small drop needed to do a load it will last me months - huge savings! It saves me money that Id otherwise spend at the laundromat, too. And I like that it saves me the trip to the laundromat. Its gentler on the clothes too.

It only fits a few items per load (5 tank tops for example), but it only takes 3 minutes so I can do a machine size wash quickly enough by doing a few bag fulls. And during this incredibly hot gardening season its nice to be able to wash my work clothes daily :lol: Its truly humbling to watch the water turn jet black. :facepalm:

This model that I have isnt large enough for my bedding, and jeans are one at a time. But its perfect in other ways, like, I have dust mite allergies and Ive found that washing my pillow cases every other day has eased my allergies considerably!

Yeah, as you can tell - Im really happy with this thing! :headbang:

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13 hours ago, Zoot said:

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I've missed you ladies! I hope you all are doing well! :hug:

:wow:

YOU ARE ALIVE!!! looooooooooooool :lol:
Good to see you back, Zoot, you are the real deal! :hug:

8 hours ago, soon said:

Im very thankful that you turned me onto this minimalism stuff. Simple living and border line asceticism has appealed to me over the years. The minimalist stuff on yt is really practical advice, so its easy to act on. Im lucky to live near a zero waste grocer! Now I only own tank tops for shirts... like 20 tank tops but its a start, lol Hand washing some of my clothes is a very meditative activity too. I love that.

Awww, Im so glad I did something good for you !:dance:

Most people who turn to minimalism have a sad and ugly past of extreme consumerism :unsure:, in my case, it borders hoarding :cry: and it all derives from a mental state of anxiety and stress. I wasn't one to buy loads of clothes or shoes, it was about (and it still is sometimes) getting obsessed with activities or things, like... make-up, tupperware, books, music, movies, shampoos, silverware, anything. I have periods of being obsessed with a certain topic and then I have to go and get all about it :facepalm:. At the same time, all these posesions gave me even more stress and anxiety. So it is a neverending cycle of buying stuff, new things, getting sad, throw them away and the cycle begins once again....... until I discovered minimalism and mindfulness.... and that was the beginning of my path to healing :heart:

6 hours ago, Tori72 said:

Thanks killuridols! :D I love the minimalist idea and I am loosely living with it a few years now. Also because I don’t like stuff standing around and I like to see walls and space. So I don’t have too much furniture or stuff sitting around.

I don’t have a huge wardrobe, but to be honest, I so wouldn’t mind! I love fashion and I love expressing things with it. Either the jeans and a tee expression as well other things. You know? So if I could I wouldn’t have capsule wardrobe but I do at the moment.  I got rid of a lot of things because I kept changing my weight due to my pregnancies. lol. Now I would fit into my old things again but it is 10 years later anyway. So what I’m saying is, I don’t have much to wear at the moment because either it’s old and too big or - I don’t have it yet. lol  So I guess I’m capsule wardrobing out of not being able to buy things at once. :)

It takes a long time to realize what's going on inside us when we are hoarders or people who spend a lot in useless shit..... Changing bad habits it is a long process of realization, adaptation, frustration, failure and resilience.

What you say about expressing yourself through fashion, I totally get it! That's why I own loads of clothes that make no sense, or they don't combine. With minimalism, I learned that you can express yourself as well, but you also have to be honest with yourself.... do you REALLY like everything you have? Do you REALLY wear all of the items you collect? Or do you buy clothes just to collect them?

For example, why have I collected GN'R tshirts? :lol: They are horrible and I wear them only for GN'R shows (which happens once in 20 years! :rofl-lol:)..... I need to reduce all of that and leave just one or two shirts. I don't need more than that and Im even thinking if I need a GN'R shirt at all! :shrugs:

So, the point is.... minimalism tells you that you should LOVE/ADORE every item you own, if you don't then you don't need it and it won't make you happy.

I did this exercise of checking up on all the items at home.... Do I love this mug? Why do I have 10 different mugs when I use only one for my daily coffe or tea? :shrugs:
I came to the conclusion that I love/adore only 3 mugs out of the 10 that I have: one that was given to me by my dear friend, another one that I bought myself because I fell in love with it when I saw it and I still love it, and the other one made by a fabulous artist from my country, I love the drawing. All the rest are MEH to me and I dont use them. So.... they have to go.

As for your clothes, that's great if you are now buying one item at a time, because that's the thing, that's the minimalism philosophy. Buying in bulk wastes your money, you have to make conscious choices. Your new wardrobe might take 2 or 3 years to complete, but by the end of the journey you will adore all of your clothes, you won't have second thoughts on them and they will last for a long time.

4 hours ago, soon said:

I learned about it in one of the minimalism videos that @killuridols showed me. I like it primarily for ecological reasons, using no electricity, less water and way less detergent. I can get a small jar of concentrated wash liquid for $1 at the zero waste store and with the small drop needed to do a load it will last me months - huge savings! It saves me money that Id otherwise spend at the laundromat, too. And I like that it saves me the trip to the laundromat. Its gentler on the clothes too.

I have not been able to find this bag in my country yet :no: but it is one thing that I'D love to have...... In order to not waste water, electricity and soap, I have to wait for a week to collect all the dirty clothes and wash them all at once, but for that, I need MORE CLOTHES!! :wacko: See? That's the trap, so I either own a few items or I have to do more than one laundry during the week, which derives into a bigger bill of water & energy.

Anyway, since I became a minimalist, I dont waste money in plastic bags or plastic in general. I replaced household items for either wood or glass materials. Reduced my make-up items, shampoo bottles, I use bamboo toothbrush, and in general everytime I face a new purchase I take the time to analyze if I really need it and if I do, what's the best quality I can get for that item so it makes it durable and noble for a long time.

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For anyone who wants to join the Minimalism philosofy of life, I can recommend you the book by Dominique Loreau: "L'art de la simplicité" (How to live more with less). Even though it is oriented to women, I think anyone can read it because the essence of it applies to any human being. It is a book that helps you open your eyes about why you're struggling with your posessions, your anxiety, and explores the soul to the deepest levels.

I love it. It is written in a simple way, always to the point, you can finish it in 2 or 3 nights.

 

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I’m glad you overcame your life of hoarding things. I’ve never done that which is why I don’t go and just buy a lot of cheap new clothes. Anyway,  I guess hoarding is about deciding to let go and to say „goodbye“? That’s what my armchair psychology makes out of it. Fear of regret, of feeling alone, making the wrong choices. I totally get that and I think it’s very relatable. Of course, it is not the things and stuff that we need, right? I’m sure it takes some realization to be able to let go of things.

I’ve never been a hoarder. The only thing that I don’t need but cannot say goodbye to is my kids baby clothes. There’s only a bag for each of them, I started off with 3 bags each. lol. But I was able to give it away year after year. I’ll keep those few selected items and maybe maybe will see them on their babies one day. (Which makes me dizzy to even think of but I guess this is why I keep it. Also because I’m nostalgic and sentimental. :D )

So yeah, how did we start this? Izzy! I can imagine him very well to be more on the minimalistic side. I’m sure he owns a lot of more clothes than I do. But for a rockstar I think he lives somewhat profane. lol

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It's been a while... Wow!!! 51 years young :o

 

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First post, so I have no idea where to post it - but I'm a woman, so this seems suitable :D
I've only watched a handful of UYI tour shots (full concerts), the ones I could get my hands on easily. Noticed that during band introductions Axl goes something like Gilby/Duff/Dizzy/Matt - and then there's a drum solo - did he introduce Slash at that time? I remember watching some (earlier? not sure) stuff where there's separate "half man, half beast" introduction, then guitar solo, but none of that in the stuff I've seen recently (except ocassional vid from usenet I'm watching them on YT, so they might be incomplete)

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6 hours ago, Cass said:

First post, so I have no idea where to post it - but I'm a woman, so this seems suitable :D
I've only watched a handful of UYI tour shots (full concerts), the ones I could get my hands on easily. Noticed that during band introductions Axl goes something like Gilby/Duff/Dizzy/Matt - and then there's a drum solo - did he introduce Slash at that time? I remember watching some (earlier? not sure) stuff where there's separate "half man, half beast" introduction, then guitar solo, but none of that in the stuff I've seen recently (except ocassional vid from usenet I'm watching them on YT, so they might be incomplete)

I don't think he introduced him during the UYI tour. Slash would just join in on the drum and bass solo.

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On ‎31‎/‎7‎/‎2019 at 8:46 PM, killuridols said:

IBelieve me you can when you start learning about this movement and get to understand what it really is about, you realize how much frenetic consumerism affects your life, how many useless things you own and how you can improve your finances by making conscious choices about your consumerism.

It looks to me that Izzy doesn't own a lot of clothes and in general he seems to be a simple guy leading a simple life. That's the essence of minimalism. It's not only about clothes, it covers nutrition, finances, household, feelings, thoughts, it's a philosophy of life.

Right. And thanks to the moron running our country at the moment, I think everyone's kinda becoming a minimalist here :P

Yeah, Izzy seems to be a simple guy - I love that about him btw - but I'm not sure how much of a minimalist he is. I remember reading somewhere that he has a big guitar collection and that he buys old cars to repair them. And that skate he bought - I wonder if he got it to actually use it - I'm having a hard time picturing him rolling it :lol: 

 

 

 

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44 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said:

Stephanie looks about 30 while axl looks like a grandma.

I couldn't agree more. Having said that I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bit of photoshop here and there as well

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On 31/07/2019 at 9:56 PM, MaskingApathy said:

I don't think his face looks that good anymore, compared to before.

 

Bet the knives are out for you after that post! :lol:

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17 hours ago, Cass said:

First post, so I have no idea where to post it - but I'm a woman, so this seems suitable :D
I've only watched a handful of UYI tour shots (full concerts), the ones I could get my hands on easily. Noticed that during band introductions Axl goes something like Gilby/Duff/Dizzy/Matt - and then there's a drum solo - did he introduce Slash at that time? I remember watching some (earlier? not sure) stuff where there's separate "half man, half beast" introduction, then guitar solo, but none of that in the stuff I've seen recently (except ocassional vid from usenet I'm watching them on YT, so they might be incomplete)

Hey and welcome to the thread! We always love to have new members coming in!

I have no idea to your questions though. I would have thought he’d always intruduced Slash fans say he didn’t he probably didn’t. :lol:

5 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Bet the knives are out for you after that post! :lol:

YUP!!

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23 hours ago, Tori72 said:

I’m glad you overcame your life of hoarding things. I’ve never done that which is why I don’t go and just buy a lot of cheap new clothes. Anyway,  I guess hoarding is about deciding to let go and to say „goodbye“? That’s what my armchair psychology makes out of it. Fear of regret, of feeling alone, making the wrong choices. I totally get that and I think it’s very relatable. Of course, it is not the things and stuff that we need, right? I’m sure it takes some realization to be able to let go of things.

I’ve never been a hoarder. The only thing that I don’t need but cannot say goodbye to is my kids baby clothes. There’s only a bag for each of them, I started off with 3 bags each. lol. But I was able to give it away year after year. I’ll keep those few selected items and maybe maybe will see them on their babies one day. (Which makes me dizzy to even think of but I guess this is why I keep it. Also because I’m nostalgic and sentimental. :D )

Im not like those hoarders from reality tv shows, though! :lol:

Let's say I never got to a state of mind where I couldn't get in or get out of my house, but I became aware that there was a problem with shopping too much or shopping unnecessary bollocks and how that is related with anxiety & stress.

Yeah, it's like you transfer your anxiety and your inner feelings to the objects, you need them around you or just to look at them and when you realize they are not worth it, you have a hard time letting them go. Other things have deep meanings for you, like you have your kids baby clothes. You know your kids don't need those clothes anymore, but you have transfered your mommy emotions and your memories into those clothes, and thats why you are not ready to let them go.
I've watched so many hoarders tv shows and I cry everytime I see the people going nuts when they have to let go of the stuff. It gets violent and too real.... people have unimaginable attachments to things... it is crazy :unsure:

23 hours ago, Tori72 said:

So yeah, how did we start this? Izzy! I can imagine him very well to be more on the minimalistic side. I’m sure he owns a lot of more clothes than I do. But for a rockstar I think he lives somewhat profane. lol

Yes. Im not sure who showed me pics of Izzy's home?

I have bare memories of it but I don't think it was decorated in minimalism style..... Anyhow, I think the man lives a simple life and thats what is important :)

22 hours ago, Padme said:

It's been a while... Wow!!! 51 years young :o

Holy shit, Steph looks soooooooooo amazing, whoooah :wow:

Maybe there's a bit of photoshop to it but overall, I think she's fucking stunning, while Axl...... geez :facepalm:

13 hours ago, solstar said:

Right. And thanks to the moron running our country at the moment, I think everyone's kinda becoming a minimalist here :P

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA :rofl-lol:

True that!!

I guess that will be his only legacy when he leaves, right? (because he's leaving soon, right? :devilshades:)

* Must be some sort of sign that I became a minimalist during his administration, looooooooool

 

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1 hour ago, killuridols said:

 

Yes. Im not sure who showed me pics of Izzy's home?

I have bare memories of it but I don't think it was decorated in minimalism style..... Anyhow, I think the man lives a simple life and thats what is important :)

Holy shit, Steph looks soooooooooo amazing, whoooah :wow:

Maybe there's a bit of photoshop to it but overall, I think she's fucking stunning, while Axl...... geez :facepalm:

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA :rofl-lol:

True that!!

I guess that will be his only legacy when he leaves, right? (because he's leaving soon, right? :devilshades:)

* Must be some sort of sign that I became a minimalist during his administration, looooooooool

 

I wish I had shown you Izzy’s home because that would mean I’d know how he lives! Truth is, I don’t. We have pics from the internet somewhere showing us izzy’s house with the furniture of the person who lived there before. That place is so TINY though that I can’t believe it’s real. What we looked at was his supposedly girlfriend's former home and that was a fucking mansion. All decorated with the best taste ever. For real. Beautiful! I don’t think he lives minimalist. In my mind his home has some kind of a crazy bacholor style, a little without a concept but masculine, carefree, real relaxed and with some taste. (And I think that’s sexy.)

Yes, Stephanie looks a m a z i n g! She is very beautiful. Not for a 51 year old but full stop. She’s a beautiful woman and always will be. I don’t think she’s got a lot of taste though and I don’t like the picture and I think the caption is bullshit. Just in case anyone wanted to know. ;)

What else. Oh Trump. Well, when will the American people get their act together, throw him out of office and into court to face all the shit he did? I’m waiting. The world’s waiting.

 

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Don’t they mean the person running Argentina?

His name is Macri something or other and from what I can tell - he’s a proper wanker :lol:

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6 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Don’t they mean the person running Argentina?

His name is Macri something or other and from what I can tell - he’s a proper wanker :lol:

I’m sure there are a lot of them.

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9 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Bet the knives are out for you after that post! :lol:

 

3 hours ago, Tori72 said:

Hey and welcome to the thread! We always love to have new members coming in!

I have no idea to your questions though. I would have thought he’d always intruduced Slash fans say he didn’t he probably didn’t. :lol:

YUP!!

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Not yet. He's kind of like Duff, there's a big difference in his face in the last 20 or so years. Unlike Slash for instance, who still looks pretty similar.

 

18 minutes ago, Tori72 said:

What else. Oh Trump. Well, when will the American people get their act together, throw him out of office and into court to face all the shit he did? I’m waiting. The world’s waiting.

We want to, just hasn't been able to happen yet.

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18 minutes ago, Tori72 said:

We have pics from the internet somewhere showing us izzy’s house with the furniture of the person who lived there before. That place is so TINY though that I can’t believe it’s real. What we looked at was his supposedly girlfriend's former home and that was a fucking mansion. All decorated with the best taste ever.

Umm.... you got me confused there..... whose place is TINY? :blink:
Yes, I guess you are right about those pics being from his gf place but Im not sure now... I remember a guitar and some paint on the wall..... It was beautifully decorated, yeah :shrugs:

21 minutes ago, Tori72 said:

Yes, Stephanie looks a m a z i n g! She is very beautiful. Not for a 51 year old but full stop. She’s a beautiful woman and always will be. I don’t think she’s got a lot of taste though and I don’t like the picture and I think the caption is bullshit. Just in case anyone wanted to know. ;)

I think women like her and Erin can look amazing at 50 something because they live for that, lol, for being beautiful and well, a little help from photography also does it... but Axl has got help from photoshop and stuff and he still looks bad, loool-- I mean, not that someone would say he looks 10 or 20 years younger.

I dont have issue with the photo and the caption. I understand what it means :shrugs: and Im glad she's back because she's always been a great professional in her area, much better than some of the boring dull younger girls.

24 minutes ago, Tori72 said:

What else. Oh Trump. Well, when will the American people get their act together, throw him out of office and into court to face all the shit he did? I’m waiting. The world’s waiting.

 

17 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Don’t they mean the person running Argentina?

His name is Macri something or other and from what I can tell - he’s a proper wanker :lol:

:lol:

LOL yes, we are talking about our President, Mauricio Macri, not Trump but since Macri is a lapdog of Donnie, it is not hard to get them mixed up like Tori did, loooool

You're right, total wanker, the worst president in decades.... 2 months left to vote and we're kicking him out of office, yaaaaaaaay!! :headbang:

 

 

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6 minutes ago, killuridols said:

Umm.... you got me confused there..... whose place is TINY? :blink:
Yes, I guess you are right about those pics being from his gf place but Im not sure now... I remember a guitar and some paint on the wall..... It was beautifully decorated, yeah :shrugs:

Well apparently Izzy livs in Rockstar mouse house (teeny weeny smol) because it is „only“ 120 square meters. I can’t believe that, though. That would be VERY humble. Unless he’s got a nice garden shed. The pics I’ve seen from that house were from the person Izzy bought the house from.

And the the guitars and art at the wall were at her place, I think. Not Izzy’s.

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7 minutes ago, Tori72 said:

Well apparently Izzy livs in Rockstar mouse house (teeny weeny smol) because it is „only“ 120 square meters. I can’t believe that, though. That would be VERY humble. Unless he’s got a nice garden shed. The pics I’ve seen from that house were from the person Izzy bought the house from.

And the the guitars and art at the wall were at her place, I think. Not Izzy’s.

Oh :mellow:

What about the videos he posted on Twitter? Was that at his house? it didnt look so tiny to me :shrugs:

 

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2 minutes ago, killuridols said:

Oh :mellow:

What about the videos he posted on Twitter? Was that at his house? it didnt look so tiny to me :shrugs:

 

No that wasn’t his. That was his gf’s.

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1 minute ago, Tori72 said:

No that wasn’t his. That was his gf’s.

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Shite.... I know nothing about Izzy!! :facepalm:

:lol:

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23 minutes ago, killuridols said:

I dont have issue with the photo and the caption. I understand what it means :shrugs: and Im glad she's back because she's always been a great professional in her area, much better than some of the boring dull younger girls.

50 minutes ago, Tori72 said:

Oh I do unterstand what it means! What they’re trying to say. But I don’t think they succeeded. A look into the camera and an angle from the womans feet is neither Helmut Newton nor her being in charge. That’s why I call bs on it.

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Shite.... I know nothing about Izzy!! :facepalm:

:lol:

ts ts ts

 

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Claudia Schiffer did two similar covers. I like this one the best.

They still look great of course, but as everything is photoshopped these days, you don't really know just how exactly they look.

I've no idea about Izzy's house, but if he still has that house in Mallorca, he might spend some time there too.

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