Len Cnut Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 10 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: There's an episode where Harold wants to be local Labour candidate, with dreams of being the next Harold Wilson, but it ends up they won't have him cuz he's a rag and bone mans son. The party of the working man won't have a working man. Its really good, you should watch it if you've got a minute. You get it too, in terms of what they're talking about because you know your history and that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: There's an episode where Harold wants to be local Labour candidate, with dreams of being the next Harold Wilson, but it ends up they won't have him cuz he's a rag and bone mans son. The party of the working man won't have a working man. That will be right. One of the biggest cons in British political history is that of the Labour Party being ''the party of the working classes'' - especially in recent times. Blair was at Fettes then Oxford. Corbyn went to a prep school before attending a grammar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: That will be right. One of the biggest cons in British political history is that of the Labour Party being ''the party of the working classes'' - especially in recent times. Blair was at Fettes then Oxford. Corbyn went to a prep school before attending a grammar. I believe the episode goes 'we are looking to get away from the cloth cap image'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, EvanG said: Yeah, but so does everyone in England. *leaves thread* Then you haven't been introduced to the new Simon Cowell, Edited September 4, 2019 by DieselDaisy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said: Then you haven't been introduced to the new Simon Cowell, He's been Americanized, the opposite of being Britanized, like in Family Guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) It isn't over 'till the fat lady sings. Brexit Lords will frustrate bill through ''wrecking'' amendments: https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/constitution/house-lords-reform/news/106286/tory-peers-launch-bid-block-no-deal-bill and https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/04/tory-peers-accused-wrecking-tactics-bill-delay-brexit Lords would've to sit for 24 hours every single day until Saturday before bill can be passed back to the Commons haha. Edited September 4, 2019 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Quote He's been Americanized, the opposite of being Britanized, like in Family Guy. He looks a bigger cunt than how he started, if thats humanly possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Len Cnut said: He looks a bigger cunt than how he started, if thats humanly possible. He looks like a victim from an accident who'd got 30 degree burns. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 44 minutes ago, spunko12345 said: He looks like a victim from an accident who'd got 30 degree burns. He looks like Gary Oldman in Hannibal: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Woo hoo!!!! Suck it Boris! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Dazey said: Woo hoo!!!! Suck it Boris! You may be too premature in your celebration (I assume you're happy about Benn's bill being passed in its second reading in Commons, or maybe about the defections reducing Boris's majority, or both perhaps?). There are now 102 amendments in Lords introduced by Brexiteering peers - each must be voted on twice so over 100 hours of continuous proceedings. Edited September 4, 2019 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I found more rev left Englanders... in London of all places. https://network23.org/londonabc/ Also, Robin Hood. And Roger Waters (). Y'all should take a page from your previous subjects in Hong Kong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 35 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: You may be too premature in your celebration (I assume you're happy about Benn's bill being passed in its second reading in Commons, or maybe about the defections reducing Boris's majority, or both perhaps?). There are now 102 amendments in Lords introduced by Brexiteering peers - each must be voted on twice so over 100 hours of continuous proceedings. How long has he been PM? He created this mess. He might still have some of what he wants. But it's a nightmare for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 32 minutes ago, soon said: I found more rev left Englanders... in London of all places. https://network23.org/londonabc/ Also, Robin Hood. And Roger Waters (). Y'all should take a page from your previous subjects in Hong Kong You should visit Highgate Cemetery where you'll find, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Now I've seen it all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: You should visit Highgate Cemetery where you'll find, For sure. People even travel to your country to foment revolution! The tombs not unlike Speer's ascetic to my untrained eyes? One cant help but but consider the resources and labour that went into this tomb monument, eh? Paid for by CPGB. Its certainly not a monument fit for some lumpenprole. But theres the need to portray power, the ability to defend the revolution I guess? And theres the idea of 'beauty' as a tool for promoting socialism... And just look at that handsome beast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 It's such a mess it is becoming increasingly obvious UK can't govern itself and need to stay within the EU. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 It is only a mess because Parliament refuses to implement the democratic will of the populous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: It is only a mess because Parliament refuses to implement the democratic will of the populous. Did the populous say they wanted to leave the EU with no deal? Eh, no. Besides, it has been a mess every step of the way from when the idea of a referendum first was conceived to Boris Johnson's ham-fisted attempts at forcing his way. Just a terrible mess. I feel for the Brits who have been lied to, misled, and now have to endure this farce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: Did the populous say they wanted to leave the EU with no deal? Eh, no. Besides, it has been a mess every step of the way from when the idea of a referendum first was conceived to Boris Johnson's ham-fisted attempts at forcing his way. Just a terrible mess. I feel for the Brits who have been lied to, misled, and now have to endure this farce. What about the poor fuckers like me who weren't mislead and knew this was all a colossal clusterfuck from day one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: Did the populous say they wanted to leave the EU with no deal? Eh, no. The United Kingdom said they didn't want to remain in the EU. Three years later and we are still in the European Union. And pertaining to current opinion - you are a big admirer of opinion polling, Just now, Dazey said: What about the poor fuckers like me who weren't mislead and knew this was all a colossal clusterfuck from day one? Such is democracy. You don't always get what you want. I hated Blair but endured it stoically enough because Blair won by a landslide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Decent rack, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Such is democracy. You don't always get what you want. I hated Blair but endured it stoically enough because Blair won by a landslide. Different scenario entirely. If the 1997 election was for a lifetime appointment I suspect that you would have been a little more animated about it. Also the referendum result was far from a landslide. Had it been a 2/3rds majority or even 60:40 in favour then I think this would be very different. Edited September 4, 2019 by Dazey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, DieselDaisy said: The United Kingdom said they didn't want to remain in the EU. But Parliament isn't stopping a Brexit (and hence being in conflict with the outcome of the referendum 3 years ago), they are trying to stop a hard Brexit, which it is unlikely the majority of the populous wants. So you are wrong in saying that the Parliament refuses to implement the Democratic outcome of the referendum, they are just trying to do it in a not mind-blowingly stupid way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Dazey said: Different scenario entirely. If the 1997 election was for a lifetime appointment I suspect that you would have been a little more animated about it. If the referendum result was the reverse, 52% for remain, I would believe the British public to have made the wrong decision, and freely discuss the reasons why I believe they have made a mistake, but I would not ask for the referendum to be re-run, nor question its legality. My opinion would have been on the losing side. Such is democracy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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