mikeman5150 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 From those of you who were actually around during the uyi days, how does the current tour stack up? I know they're not currently promoting the release of 2 albums, but it does seem like there has been a pretty big buzz about it. I'm mainly curious what you think about the general buzz and attendance. Obviously we know the differences with the performances, they were 25 years younger back then. Just curious your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GNR 1991 Posted April 19, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2017 Comparing it to the UYI tour is beyond superfluous -- back then it was about touring dominance and promoting two records (three if you count TSI). The current tour, as it stands is simply a cash grab so the world over can see Axl and Slash together again. The differences between the tours are big, and shouldn't be compared. If you're talking about performances, well....have fun with that discussion of Richard vs Gilby/Frank vs Matt/etc 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 What others said, UYI was a tour to promote two massive albums, this one is kinda in promotion of...their paychecks? Still pretty cool they actually reunited but yeah, the main difference is motive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I talked to two people the other day who love GnR and didn't even know Slash and Duff are back and touring again. I would like to think those two were an exception, but still... as long as they don't have new music coming out, this tour can't compare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 36 minutes ago, AxlRoseCDII said: What others said, UYI was a tour to promote two massive albums, this one is kinda in promotion of...their paychecks? Still pretty cool they actually reunited but yeah, the main difference is motive. Ultimately, money was the motive in both instances. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 It is hard to compare because for the Illusions that was the height of their popularity, they were not a legendary classic rock band at that point, they were a hugely popular band of the time. For this recent tour it is also special because a lot of people like me who were not around for that can finally have that special moment of seeing Slash, Axl and Duff on stage together playing the music we love and hold dear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post liqddynamite Posted April 19, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Spirit said: Ultimately, money was the motive in both instances. Correct. People need to realize that back then artists made their money from album sales and the tour was a means to sell albums. Today, its basically the other way around. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfAGun Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The Use Your Illusion tour was going on when I first got into the band. Nearly got to see them at Milton Keynes, but my mum wouldn't allow it and as I was 13, I didn't get much of a say in the matter. They are the band that made me want to start writing songs when I got into them and the UYI tour and era will always be first place with me as IMO it was so good because it was about to explode. They managed to bottle the lightening for that tour and the end of it was really the end of my favourite band. This tour is cool but not anything close to the 90s run; it has a phoned in quality and is about as dangerous as a ham sandwich. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 this isn't a fair comparison at all. the fact ppl got new music during UYI alone is enough to put it above and beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post beautifulanddamned Posted April 19, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2017 In terms of buzz, the two are wildly different. During the UYI tour the band was huge and also seemed like it might explode at any time. Axl in particular was viewed as a ticking time bomb. Riots and late starts and major news coverage- not just on music mags but on CNN, etc. The double billing with Metallica was massive. People were lining up at record stores at midnight to get their hands on the albums. Nobody was making videos like GNR- and MTV was still a thing people watched. Axl's social life was getting media coverage, Slash and Duff both seemed like they might expire at any moment. Izzy quit and was replaced. It seemed wild- you really weren't sure what you were going to witness. My parents wouldn't let me go because of the "buzz." So I snuck out for the first time- said I was spending the night at a friend's house. It was a sold out stadium. It lasted 7+ hours. GNR came on an hour and a half after Metallica tore shit up and the crowd was sweaty and drunk and wild by the time they hit the stage. The crowd numbers were pretty much what they are doing for the NITL tour but the atmosphere the crowd (and band) created was completely different. It seemed wild because it was wild. They were young and we were young and no matter what music they release or what lineup is standing on that stage it will never be recreated. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fitha_whiskey Posted April 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2017 32 minutes ago, beautifulanddamned said: It seemed wild because it was wild. They were young and we were young and no matter what music they release or what lineup is standing on that stage it will never be recreated. It doesn't compare at all because this ^. There were no 46 year olds like me at those UYI shows. Now we dominate the crowd at the current shows. They're still great shows- it's just way different. The music was new, now everyone has heard it for 25+ years. Thats why I'm hoping for something new from the band. It's still never gonna be like the 80s/90s, but it can get really exciting again. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2414225 Posted April 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2017 UYI TOUR = EPIC (of course not all concerts) NITLT TOUR = A FARCE (no interviews, no new material, no real reunion, no creativity, no perfect gnr sound because of frank, melissa, 4tus and axls voice) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Draguns Posted April 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2017 It was definitely much different back then. The 1991 GNR concert at Nassau Coliseum was my first concert at age 14. I saw them two other times during the UYI tour, which were at Madison Square Garden and Giants Stadium. The Nassau concert was the first concert where GNR showed up late. No one knew what was going on after Skid Row performed. We just sat there waiting until they showed up. I remember Axl going off on his rants back then. The Giants Stadium concert with Metallica was wild! I remember Faith No More getting booed off the stage. When Metallica played, people were lighting up hair spray bottles and launching them from the upper deck. I actually became a Metallica fan after this concert. GNR will always be my favorite all-time band. However, Metallica smoked GNR that night. For me, the NITL is like a phoenix rising from the ashes. Some on this board will say cash grab. I say it's redemption for the reunited 3 that carried the UYI tour to its finish. In addition, it's nice to see them now that I'm older. They've changed in 23 years. I did as well. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cqleonardo Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 hours ago, liqddynamite said: Correct. People need to realize that back then artists made their money from album sales and the tour was a means to sell albums. Today, its basically the other way around. one of the motives that I think they (Axl) is not interested to release new music, today tours sell a lot more than the albums, the albums are for fans that like the new stuff from the bands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cqleonardo Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I don't get why people say is a cashgrab, the guys are doing their jobs lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Apples and Oranges... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derick Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Although I was very young at that time, I went to 2 Illusions concerts in December 1992. Apart from differences like context and "what for..", there are many similarities between these two tours...Criticism about the lineup, about Axl´s voice and that cash grab thing, as today, also existed at that time... and exactly how it is happening in the current tour, people still filled stadiums to see them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman5150 Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Fitha_whiskey said: It doesn't compare at all because this ^. There were no 46 year olds like me at those UYI shows. Now we dominate the crowd at the current shows. They're still great shows- it's just way different. The music was new, now everyone has heard it for 25+ years. Thats why I'm hoping for something new from the band. It's still never gonna be like the 80s/90s, but it can get really exciting again. This was the kind of response I was expecting. I know it doesn't compare in terms of the show, I was just wondering what it was like before social media. In 2016 I was just excited to see a rock band play stadiums. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONIN Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Fitha_whiskey said: It doesn't compare at all because this ^. There were no 46 year olds like me at those UYI shows. Now we dominate the crowd at the current shows. They're still great shows- it's just way different. The music was new, now everyone has heard it for 25+ years. Thats why I'm hoping for something new from the band. It's still never gonna be like the 80s/90s, but it can get really exciting again. The show I went to definitely felt like the audience was mostly 40-somethings. The thing is, a lot of people were taking piss breaks during the Chinese songs and deep cuts like Coma. I don't know if concert audiences necessarily want new music from Guns anymore -- maybe they just want the Hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlingrl03 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, RONIN said: The show I went to definitely felt like the audience was mostly 40-somethings. The thing is, a lot of people were taking piss breaks during the Chinese songs and deep cuts like Coma. I don't know if concert audiences necessarily want new music from Guns anymore -- maybe they just want the Hits. SF was a mix...women and men ages 20 to 50, kids, couples, groups of college guys etc. It was nice to see the wide range. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin' Cigarettes Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Best tour since the Illusions is more appropriate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman5150 Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 36 minutes ago, Smokin' Cigarettes said: Best tour since the Illusions is more appropriate. Yes, I know the illusion tour was better for sure, I was just trying to gain perspective of what it was like then vs. now in terms of excitement, popularity, and attendance. I was still pretty young during the illusion tours. I remember them being on MTV and stuff, but I also remember the grunge scene and the yo MTV raps bullshit. Just wondering what it was like for some of the older members here who went to the shows. Was it advertised on radio, tv, billboards? I heard a lot of people this past summer saying not in this lifetime was like an extension of the illusions, that's why I asked the question the way I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Original Posted April 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, mikeman5150 said: This was the kind of response I was expecting. I know it doesn't compare in terms of the show, I was just wondering what it was like before social media. In 2016 I was just excited to see a rock band play stadiums. It was an exciting time. No social media so it was all/mostly MTV News and RS etc.... Kurt Loder, Lonn Friend (where are those guys)? Rumors, excitement, unpredictability.....totally different than 2017. I'm just happy to see them again (Nu Guns I saw but that doesn't count). 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman5150 Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 21 minutes ago, Original said: It was an exciting time. No social media so it was all/mostly MTV News and RS etc.... Kurt Loder, Lonn Friend (where are those guys)? Rumors, excitement, unpredictability.....totally different than 2017. I'm just happy to see them again (Nu Guns I saw but that doesn't count). Yeah, I sometimes wish I was born a decade earlier so I could've been part of the whole scene. I graduated in 02' and while in high school, most of the bands I liked weren't very popular with the mainstream. I felt like the late 90's music really sucked, so I just continued listening to guns and Motley Crue. I remember Kurt loder doing the MTV news report. He seemed like he was always a fan of guns. How did people find out about concerts during this time? What about tickets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, RONIN said: The show I went to definitely felt like the audience was mostly 40-somethings. The thing is, a lot of people were taking piss breaks during the Chinese songs and deep cuts like Coma. I don't know if concert audiences necessarily want new music from Guns anymore -- maybe they just want the Hits. That's true, which is why most bands do a 12-14 track album every couple of years and sprinkle a few of those songs among the hits to promote a new tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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