Game of Thrones Season 7 Discussion Thread *NO Spoilers*

[username]

12 hours ago, Georgy Zhukov said:

Bran was a fucking creep btw. "I watched you get raped. You were pretty. Jamie and Cersei do it all the time, so it is okay for me to watch, right?"

Nothing below the belt works anymore anyway.  

[AtariLegend]

The only thing, Game of Thrones related from the HBO hack supposedly online at the minute is the outline for the next episode. Which you probably could have read a scene, by scene guide already from a year ago online. Seems like a cool episode though, but we'll see.

The only episodes online from the hack currently are from a few other HBO TV series.

[Black Sabbath]

"Yeah, I have THREE FUCKING DRAGONS but the fucking LIVING DEAD is hard to believe."

How dumb.

[AtariLegend]

In the books it's been just over a 100 years since people seen Dragons and there's alot of Dragon Bones and history books about them. The Others however (White Walkers for TV fans) haven't been seen in 10,000 years and there's no records of it ever happening, just records of old stories passed down through generations.

No one's ever seen a White Walker, there's no proof they ever existed and people think it's fairy tale. The Night's Watch believed they were fairly tales until the corpses started coming back from the dead.

The show though is very liberal meaning inconsistent with long it's been since people last seen Dragons/White Walkers.

I don't think it's ever going to be explained who "The Night King" is in the show or how everyone knows what he is or have heard of it. Not to be confused with "The Night's King" mentioned briefly in the books according to George. 

[ChineseDemocracy2004]

15 hours ago, AtariLegend said:

I don't think it's ever going to be explained who "The Night King" is in the show or how everyone knows what he is or have heard of it. Not to be confused with "The Night's King" mentioned briefly in the books according to George. 

Didn't those tree people create 'The Night King' for some reason in an earlier season?

[Deb Rose]

2 hours ago, ChineseDemocracy2004 said:

Didn't those tree people create 'The Night King' for some reason in an earlier season?

Yes, the children of the forest created him to defend nature and themselves from humans. 

[AtariLegend]

1 hour ago, Deb Rose said:

Yes, the children of the forest created him to defend nature and themselves from humans. 

Yes, but there's no actual scene where Bloodraven goes and this Bran is the The Night King. They just randomly refer to him as the The Night King everytime he's on screen. How does Jon for example know that's The Night King?

It's a missing section of dialogue.

There is a mention in the books of who "The Night's King" is, but George implied it's not the same character as "The Night King" in the show.

 

[username]

11 minutes ago, AtariLegend said:

Yes, but there's no actual scene where Bloodraven goes and this Bran is the The Night King. They just randomly refer to him as the The Night King everytime he's on screen. How does Jon for example know that's The Night King?

It's a missing section of dialogue.

There is a mention in the books of who "The Night's King" is, but George implied it's not the same character as "The Night King" in the show.

 

Clearly not. I mean, just read the synopsis from the book's Night's King: 

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Night's_King 

In the books there isn't a leader of the Others (so far). 

Edited August 3, 2017 by username

[AtariLegend]

19 minutes ago, username said:

Clearly not. I mean, just read the synopsis from the book's Night's King: 

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Night's_King 

In the books there isn't a leader of the Others (so far). 

George said he didn't want the story, to be about a "dark lord". 

It's pretty clear where the show is probably headed though next season.

[ChineseDemocracy2004]

2 hours ago, Deb Rose said:

Yes, the children of the forest created him to defend nature and themselves from humans. 

That's going well then haha.

Edited August 3, 2017 by ChineseDemocracy2004

[Georgy Zhukov]

Could the Night's King be an invention of the show?

[Jane M.]

10 hours ago, ChineseDemocracy2004 said:

Didn't those tree people create 'The Night King' for some reason in an earlier season?

 

8 hours ago, Deb Rose said:

Yes, the children of the forest created him to defend nature and themselves from humans. 

Amazing idea. Said no one, ever. 

[AtariLegend]

2 hours ago, Georgy Zhukov said:

Could the Night's King be an invention of the show?

That's what was implied by George. ...But if World War 3 doesn't break out, maybe we'll get George's sketches posthumously in a few decades.

The key is he's called The Night King in the show, not The Night's King.

I think they just want someone, Jon can have a sword fight with.

[Deb Rose]

16 hours ago, AtariLegend said:

Yes, but there's no actual scene where Bloodraven goes and this Bran is the The Night King. They just randomly refer to him as the The Night King everytime he's on screen. How does Jon for example know that's The Night King?

It's a missing section of dialogue.

There is a mention in the books of who "The Night's King" is, but George implied it's not the same character as "The Night King" in the show.

 

 

I have long stopped trying to figure out what goes on in D&D's minds.   I just stated what happened on screen and what I was able to understand. George... well, just thinking about that makes me sad. Never in my life did I think I would wait and wait and wait for something AGAIN as I did with Chinese Democracy.

 

Now, I have a question that seems to be bothering no one:

Arya was in the riverlands, right? So Jon decides to go to Dragonstone, gets there, is there for a few days I presume, and a skinny girl pulling Bran alone aaaaalll the way from the wall gets to Winterfell, but Arya is nowhere to be seen? How does that work? Did she forget the way home? 

[AtariLegend]

Episode 4 is online btw.

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Just watched. Complete fan service, but easily the best episode of the season so far.

Spoiler

Does Bron sit on the throne at the end or something? Whatever he's got is stronger than plot armor!

 

Edited August 4, 2017 by AtariLegend

[Daedalus]

2 hours ago, AtariLegend said:

Episode 4 is online btw.

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Just watched. Complete fan service, but easily the best episode of the season so far.

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Does Bron sit on the throne at the end or something? Whatever he's got is stronger than plot armor!

 

Holy shit, best episode of this season. I wanted to wait until sunday, but unsuccessfully.

[Georgy Zhukov]

I want to know some spoilers 

[Daedalus]

15 minutes ago, Georgy Zhukov said:

I want to know some spoilers 

Soundtrack is good.

[AtariLegend]

4 hours ago, Georgy Zhukov said:

I want to know some spoilers 

If you've read script/spoilers over the past year you already know.

Spoiler

Aiden/Littlefinger earns his money by having a conversation with Bran where Bran says nothing, Littlefinger gives Bran the Valeyarian dagger that was supposed to kill him at the start of the story. Bran doesn't seem too fussed, says "chaos is a ladder". Littlefinger looks at Bran, Meera interrupts them and Littlefinger leaves the room. Bran says he knows Meera's leaving. She gets upset that he doesn't have more to say given Jojen/Hodor died for him.

Arya arrives at Winterfell and turns out she's the best sword fighter in the seven kingdoms now... She meets Sansa and they don't say really say much. Not a very emotional reunion. She meets Bran, Bran doesn't say much and gives her a dagger. Sansa tells Arya, Bran has visions now. Arya beats Brienne in a sparring session. 

Jon leads Missandei/Danny down to some caves to show them children of first men paintings/white walkers. Missandei disapears and Jon/Danny stare at each other in a not too subtle way. ...But she cock blocks him and asks him to bend the knee. 

Theon arrives back at Dragonstone, Jon meets him and tells him the only reason Jon doesn't kill him is what he did for Sansa. Not much else. I hope TV show viewers remember Jon/Theon grew up together.

Danny gets word about Casterly Rock being taken, then the rest of the news from Tyrion. Danny seems to realize that Tyrion is pretty bad at his job. Decides she's just going to take her Dragons and attack the red keep, asks Jon what he thinks. Jon says he thinks Dragons are meant for than just killing, Danny stares at Dragons.

Jamie/Bronn escort traveling caravans from Highgarden to King's Landing, however the gold in the caravans has magically already got to King's Landing. Ceseri tells Tycho that she's going to pay off the Lannister debts and bring in *The Golden Company* to fight for her.

Then Tyrion magically teleports to near the traveling Jamie/Bron to watch Danny show up with the Dragons and Dothraki and kill everyone in one of the best, but illogical battle sequences the show has ever done. Some how Bronn doesn't get killed. Dothraki tell Tyrion Lannisters aren't very good at fighting. Eventually Bronn makes it to the ballista Qyburn made, fires it at Drogon with Danny on top. It's not very effective, eventually Drogon burns it while Bronn runs for the dozen'th time in the episode. Danny for some weird reason gets off Drogon to pull the ballista arrow out of Drogons side, even though Drogon seems to be okay and they're in the middle of a battle. Jamies sees that Danny's not too bright and decides to try and kill her, Drogon turns towards Jamie, starts to breathe fire then Bronn knocks Jamie off his horse and they both fall into the river. The river is now apparently really deep and we fade to black pretending Jamie is going to drown.

 

Edited August 4, 2017 by AtariLegend

[Nicklord]

29 minutes ago, AtariLegend said:

If you've read script/spoilers over the past year you already know.

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Aiden/Littlefinger earns his money by having a conversation with Bran where Bran says nothing, Littlefinger gives Bran the Valeyarian dagger that was supposed to kill him at the start of the story. Bran doesn't seem too fussed, says "chaos is a ladder". Littlefinger looks at Bran, someone intrupts and that's it.

Arya arrives at Winterfell and turns out she's the best sword fighter in the seven kingdoms now... She meets Sansa and they don't say really say much. Not a very emotional reunion. She meets Bran, Bran doesn't say much and gives her a dagger. Sansa tells Arya, Bran has visions now. Arya beats Brienne in a sparring session. 

Jon leads Missandei/Danny down to some caves to show them children of first men paintings/white walkers. Missandei disapears and Jon/Danny stare at each other in a not too subtle way. ...But she cock blocks him and asks him to bend the knee. 

Theon arrives back at Dragonstone, Jon meets him and tells him the only reason Jon doesn't kill him is what he did for Sansa. Not much else. I hope TV show viewers remember Jon/Theon grew up together.

Danny gets word about Casterly Rock being taken, then the rest of the news from Tyrion. Danny seems to realize that Tyrion is pretty bad at his job. Decides she's just going to take her Dragons and attack the red keep, asks Jon what he thinks. Jon says he thinks Dragons are meant for than just killing, Danny stares at Dragons.

Jamie/Bronn escort traveling caravans from Highgarden to King's Landing, however the gold in the caravans has magically already got to King's Landing. Ceseri tells Tycho that she's going to pay off the Lannister debts and bring in *The Golden Company* to fight for her.

Then Tyrion magically teleports to near the traveling Jamie/Bron to watch Danny show up with the Dragons and Dothraki and kill everyone in one of the best, but illogical battle sequences the show has ever done. Some how Bronn doesn't get killed. Dothraki tell Tyrion Lannisters aren't very good at fighting. Eventually Bronn makes it to the ballista Qyburn made, fires it at Drogon with Danny on top. It's not very effective, eventually Drogon burns it while Bronn runs for the dozen'th time in the episode. Danny for some weird reason gets off Drogon to pull the ballista arrow out of Drogons side, even though Drogon seems to be okay and they're in the middle of a battle. Jamies sees that Danny's not too bright and decides to try and kill her, Drogon turns towards Jamie, starts to breathe fire then Bronn knocks Jamie off his horse and they both fall into the river. The river is now apparently really deep and we fade to black pretending Jamie is going to drown.

 

You should write reviews for every episode so far. Small but funny jokes. Laughed my ass off at battle review (shouldn't be a spoiler, it was in a trailer of the episode) 

Edited August 4, 2017 by Nicklord

[Dan H.]

 

Stunning looking battle, but mostly unsatisfying writing and illogical moments.

I found the Children of the Forest paintings to be all too convenieny, but truth be told it was a clever way to add credibility to Jon in Dany's eyes.

Most entertaining episode this season, by far. 

Edited August 4, 2017 by Dan H.

[Dan H.]

Anyone else love the sound design for the dragons in this show? The guitar noise before they shoot fire gets me hyped

[Jane M.]

I read the spoilers and now I can't wait for tomorrow. 

[Georgy Zhukov]

On 8/5/2017 at 0:32 PM, Dan H. said:

Anyone else love the sound design for the dragons in this show? The guitar noise before they shoot fire gets me hyped

 

Yeah, I particularly like the Hungarian Horntail

Spoiler

Where does Dany keep all the Dothraki?

 

[AtariLegend]

One thing now that it's finally aired. The script apparently said that after Meera left Bran, that it was "out off the series".

Hope that's not true and it was of course a script from more than a year back. Would be a pretty disappointing end to her character arc, even though she was presented in a way on the show that casual viewers can't even remember her name.

I'd be pretty surprised if Howland Reed wasn't in the next season. He's the intersection point for a few plots in the book (that were cut from the show), but he can at least show up and mention that Jon isn't Ned's bastard?